Male infertillity in PWCF

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Brenco

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hi
just wonering is it possible to get a reverse vestectomy to enable cf males to have children naturally?
we all know that the vas defernse is not formed properally but this is wat they do in a vestectomy can be reversed so why cant they do this for us?
let me know wat u think on this matter thanks
brenco
 
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Brenco

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hey lindsey
this problem is not caused by a build up of mucus it is caused from the fact the tubes that carry the sperm from the testickles isnt there and that why we cant have kids. this is called CBAVD

CBAVD (congenital bilateral absence of the vas deferens) refers to the improper development of the tube through which sperm are released from the testes. CBAVD is present at birth, but most men do not become aware of it until they have difficulty with fertility.

Having CBAVD is like being born with a vasectomy: you have sperm, but the pathway to release them is missing.

CBAVD occurs in almost all men with CF, but it can also occur in men who do not have a CF diagnosis. Some of these men have genetic changes in the CF gene associated with the condition, while others have other, non-CF causes.

this was taken of the web site <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.dnadirect.com/resource/conditions/cystic_fibrosis/faqs_CF_infertility.jsp#what
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Shell

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Hi,
Ok firstly to coltsfan you infomation on what u think male infertility is a bit wrong. out think that the tubes are just blocked this is not the case. Most men with cf have whats called,CBAVD (congenital bilateral absence of the vas deferens). This where male cfs are born with no vas diferns and not blocked up with mucus.

What this poster is trying to say is people have vasectamys(sp) and can in some cases have them reversed so why can males with cf have this same treatment. on a site for male infertility is describes CBAVD as "Having CBAVD is like being born with a vasectomy: you have sperm, but the pathway to release them is missing".

So why can't cf men look into have the same kind of procedure to reverse it.

Bren hope that was ok!!!!



Ah bren u got there before me!!!!
 
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coltsfan715

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Sorry for the misunderstanding - Any time I have had CF related problems mentioned it was always due to mucus being thickened - I know female and male issues aren't the same, but some of the female issues I have that are caused by CF are caused by my body/reproductive organs producing thicker mucus. Therefore I thought it was a similar problem - thank you for the info though I did not know that before.

Sorry for posting above.
Lindsey
 
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Shell

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With females it is a case yes of it being because of mucus and the sperm not being able to get through it(i may be wrong) but with males the tubes arent there.
 
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IG

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Since C(B)AVD is a complete absence of the tubes that connect the testicles to the penis I would think that it's not likely to be 'reversible.' Since, from what I understand a vasectomy is just not removing the vas deferens completely but snipping a little section out of them, there's something to work with when you have a reversal (Vasovasostomy). But even having the 'reversal' doesn't mean that everything is going to be okey dokey 'Fertility success (after reversal), defined as return of sperm to the ejaculate, ranges from roughly 30 to 90 percent, and depends greatly on the length of time from a patient's vasectomy.' <a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy#Reversal">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasectomy#Reversal</a>
 
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julie

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Candice is right, at least in all the aspects I know about CBAVD and all the extensive research I've done and the 20+ fertility specialists I've spoken to.

in a vasectomy, you put back together what you snipped apart and tied off. The parts still exist. Therefore, during a reversal they are just put back together surgically. Even then though, a reverse vasectomy has a VERY low success rate.

With men who have CBAVD, the parts don't exist in the first place (the vas deferens), so there is nothing to "put back together".

I actually asked this question of fertility doctors many times when we were first figuring out how we were going to have kids. Everyone I talked to said it just isn't possible. There is nothing that exists currently to 'mimic' a vas deferens so that's the first difficulty you run into, secondly finding the 2 ends of where the vas deferens "should exist" is another issue.....

I can tell you from secondhand experience how UNSUCCESSFUL reversal vasectomys can be. My dad had 2 daughters when he was 18 and 20... the first one an accident, the second one because they thought it would save their marriage. It didn't. My dad had a vasectomy after his second daughter was born because he didn't want any more kids with his first wife. Then after the divorce he met my mom. About 5 years into their marriage she wanted a baby so bad, and he went in for a reversal. Four years of trying after the reversal lead them to do someting similiar to IUI and that's how I came about.
 
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kandi

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Thsi is sgoing to sound weird but I am glad I found that out. I have a son with cf and I know I have been told about his chance of not having kids but I was never told this was the reason. I am glad to have found out this information so I can explain it to him when he gets a older.
Thanks
 
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anonymous

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Julie that makes sense now. i originally thought of all this and bren posted it. will let him know. a few hours after he posted this he headed to casualty he there now. hopefully he'll be better in a few days.
 
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