Medicaid appeal advice needed

anonymous

New member
Hey, I've been browsing the forum for awhile and hope you guys have some ideas for us!

My husband (21, pwcf) and I have been attending college full-time since 2003. I have private insurance but he doesn't have coverage since we were married. His Medicaid came up for review when he turned 21 last summer. We re-applied in June and finally got denied in January after sending in many updates. Their explaination was "You are unable to work at this time, but your condition is expected to improve and should not prevent you from returning to some kind of work activity for a full 12 month period." Basically, we're financially needy but they think he's not sick enough.

We've been encouraged to appeal this decision, but we need new and compelling evidence. His PFTs have been at 30-40% for months and he has TOBI and Pulmozyme through their patient assistance programs. He worked part time our sophomore year but his health and grades suffered. For the past 5 years he has been hospitalized every 6 months and will need to go in again fairly soon.

In October he was hospitalized for 10 days. They told us he would qualify for 'emergency Medicaid' and not to worry about it. We later found out that that wasn't correct information and that Medicaid would cover the bill when we were approved. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> Needless to say we're left with a huge bill, and we've applied to the hospital's charity department for assistance with it unless we're approved this time.

Anyways... any ideas on how we can convince them his health is bad enough that he can't work full-time right now? Working while in school was too hard on his health. It seems they want him to quit school and work for $9/hour to get insurance. We're both horribly naive about this... but from what I've read there's no way we could afford premiums or co-pays living like that forever. I plan on getting my Master's after graduation, but of course we'll do what we have to.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I've seen a lot of people who are students on here so I know there must be a way. If it comes down to it one of us will have to drop out and we'll finish our degrees separately. Or leave the country. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> We're also going to contact the CF lawyer to see if she has any ideas. I hope this wasn't too long. TIA

~Shauna
 

anonymous

New member
Hey, I've been browsing the forum for awhile and hope you guys have some ideas for us!

My husband (21, pwcf) and I have been attending college full-time since 2003. I have private insurance but he doesn't have coverage since we were married. His Medicaid came up for review when he turned 21 last summer. We re-applied in June and finally got denied in January after sending in many updates. Their explaination was "You are unable to work at this time, but your condition is expected to improve and should not prevent you from returning to some kind of work activity for a full 12 month period." Basically, we're financially needy but they think he's not sick enough.

We've been encouraged to appeal this decision, but we need new and compelling evidence. His PFTs have been at 30-40% for months and he has TOBI and Pulmozyme through their patient assistance programs. He worked part time our sophomore year but his health and grades suffered. For the past 5 years he has been hospitalized every 6 months and will need to go in again fairly soon.

In October he was hospitalized for 10 days. They told us he would qualify for 'emergency Medicaid' and not to worry about it. We later found out that that wasn't correct information and that Medicaid would cover the bill when we were approved. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> Needless to say we're left with a huge bill, and we've applied to the hospital's charity department for assistance with it unless we're approved this time.

Anyways... any ideas on how we can convince them his health is bad enough that he can't work full-time right now? Working while in school was too hard on his health. It seems they want him to quit school and work for $9/hour to get insurance. We're both horribly naive about this... but from what I've read there's no way we could afford premiums or co-pays living like that forever. I plan on getting my Master's after graduation, but of course we'll do what we have to.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! I've seen a lot of people who are students on here so I know there must be a way. If it comes down to it one of us will have to drop out and we'll finish our degrees separately. Or leave the country. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> We're also going to contact the CF lawyer to see if she has any ideas. I hope this wasn't too long. TIA

~Shauna
 

Faust

New member
Not sure of the details involved, as in if it would be possible on a timely fashion, but ya might want to move to Canada and try to get citizenship there. It can REALLY suck here in the states when you are in a gray area. I can fully relate to your problem, but in a different way.
Sorry you are havin such a rough time, i'm sure others on here might have better advice.
 

Faust

New member
Not sure of the details involved, as in if it would be possible on a timely fashion, but ya might want to move to Canada and try to get citizenship there. It can REALLY suck here in the states when you are in a gray area. I can fully relate to your problem, but in a different way.
Sorry you are havin such a rough time, i'm sure others on here might have better advice.
 

anonymous

New member
i went through the same thing..medicaid sucks!! BUT there are special rules for cf..my problem wasn't that my illness was the problem but that i made too much..ha, i was on disability, couldn't work and had to move home, but they thought that someone shouldl be able to live off 700 a month, anyway, back to you. there shouldn't be any problem proving your illness, i don't know what your state rules are but all i had to do ws show a list of my meds, do a pft test and how long i had been ill, (since birth) stick with it..they refuse people hoping that they will give up..you don't need a lawyer or anything just check the different guidelines for your state..good luck
catherine
26 cf, cfrd
 

anonymous

New member
i went through the same thing..medicaid sucks!! BUT there are special rules for cf..my problem wasn't that my illness was the problem but that i made too much..ha, i was on disability, couldn't work and had to move home, but they thought that someone shouldl be able to live off 700 a month, anyway, back to you. there shouldn't be any problem proving your illness, i don't know what your state rules are but all i had to do ws show a list of my meds, do a pft test and how long i had been ill, (since birth) stick with it..they refuse people hoping that they will give up..you don't need a lawyer or anything just check the different guidelines for your state..good luck
catherine
26 cf, cfrd
 

coltsfan715

New member
I have a question .. did they have to do a physical when they were evaluating him?
I have not had to appeal to Medacaid but had to appeal when I was applying for Disability a few years ago. The denied me the first time around because my PFTs were just above the disable mark or whatever. Well when they did my PFTs I had just gotten off of 2 weeks of IVs so my breathing was at its peak. When I appealled they wanted another breathing test and it was going to work out similar where they scheduled the test for right after I ended up being in the hospital like 10 months after the 1st one. Well I asked if they could use the test that I had done 2 weeks prior and they used it and tada I was disabled by those results.

I don't know much about the Medicaid appeal process to give any other ideas. Have you spoken with a Social worker through your doctors office or the hospital your husband goes to as well. I know the social worker at my hospital helped me get through applying and appealing for disability, so maybe if there is one they could help you out.

Good Luck,
Lindsey
 

coltsfan715

New member
I have a question .. did they have to do a physical when they were evaluating him?
I have not had to appeal to Medacaid but had to appeal when I was applying for Disability a few years ago. The denied me the first time around because my PFTs were just above the disable mark or whatever. Well when they did my PFTs I had just gotten off of 2 weeks of IVs so my breathing was at its peak. When I appealled they wanted another breathing test and it was going to work out similar where they scheduled the test for right after I ended up being in the hospital like 10 months after the 1st one. Well I asked if they could use the test that I had done 2 weeks prior and they used it and tada I was disabled by those results.

I don't know much about the Medicaid appeal process to give any other ideas. Have you spoken with a Social worker through your doctors office or the hospital your husband goes to as well. I know the social worker at my hospital helped me get through applying and appealing for disability, so maybe if there is one they could help you out.

Good Luck,
Lindsey
 

julie

New member
Shauna, sounds to me like he would qualify for disability!!!! Have you guys even applied for that?

PFT's at 30-40% are compelling enough, then throw in the hospitalizations, list how frequently he gets infections that require nebulized or IV antibotics and you will Win.

PFT's are the hardest way to qualify for disability. There are 2 other ways, they are listed in "julies corner" on the main forum page of this website; to qualify for disability. If you win that. I would recommend pursuing the medicaid appeal and the disability at the same time.
 

julie

New member
Shauna, sounds to me like he would qualify for disability!!!! Have you guys even applied for that?

PFT's at 30-40% are compelling enough, then throw in the hospitalizations, list how frequently he gets infections that require nebulized or IV antibotics and you will Win.

PFT's are the hardest way to qualify for disability. There are 2 other ways, they are listed in "julies corner" on the main forum page of this website; to qualify for disability. If you win that. I would recommend pursuing the medicaid appeal and the disability at the same time.
 
I

IG

Guest
That's the thing with college, it sucks.
In order to apply for a majority of the fin. aid schools offer you need to be a full time student.
If you're able to be a full time student then according to the government there's no reason why you can't work full time.
I'd personally like to move to UK, might have citizenship problems though.
 
I

IG

Guest
That's the thing with college, it sucks.
In order to apply for a majority of the fin. aid schools offer you need to be a full time student.
If you're able to be a full time student then according to the government there's no reason why you can't work full time.
I'd personally like to move to UK, might have citizenship problems though.
 

anonymous

New member
Thanks for the advice!
We were going to apply for SSI... but then the charity assistance guy at the hospital told us it could take up to 2-2.5 years. He said as soon as you're denied (which always happens the first time) you're inelligible for Medicaid until you're approved by SSI. So we're hoping to win this appeal and not risk getting it held up by a disability denial.
The hospital social worker has given us all the help he can. It's the doctor on the Medicaid review board that is giving us the trouble.
Yeah, he has had PFTs/physicals every 2 weeks around January because of being on a study medication. There's enough evidence he isn't improving on his own. I guess we just need to be especially dramatic about his fatigue, time constraints, etc.
Thanks again,
Shauna
 

anonymous

New member
Thanks for the advice!
We were going to apply for SSI... but then the charity assistance guy at the hospital told us it could take up to 2-2.5 years. He said as soon as you're denied (which always happens the first time) you're inelligible for Medicaid until you're approved by SSI. So we're hoping to win this appeal and not risk getting it held up by a disability denial.
The hospital social worker has given us all the help he can. It's the doctor on the Medicaid review board that is giving us the trouble.
Yeah, he has had PFTs/physicals every 2 weeks around January because of being on a study medication. There's enough evidence he isn't improving on his own. I guess we just need to be especially dramatic about his fatigue, time constraints, etc.
Thanks again,
Shauna
 

gsplover

New member
As Melissa said appeal, appeal, appeal. I went in front of a judge when I was in College and he told me my grades were too good to go on SSI disability. But he did tell be to get a Lawyer becasue it would show I was serious about it. I did 4 months later I got Msdicaid and SSI disability back pay of 2 years. Get a lawyer. There are many lawyers that will not make you pay unless you win the case. After I finished college, I was able to go to work full time. I just couldn't handle going to school and working and staying healthy. It was the best fight I have fought yet.
 

gsplover

New member
As Melissa said appeal, appeal, appeal. I went in front of a judge when I was in College and he told me my grades were too good to go on SSI disability. But he did tell be to get a Lawyer becasue it would show I was serious about it. I did 4 months later I got Msdicaid and SSI disability back pay of 2 years. Get a lawyer. There are many lawyers that will not make you pay unless you win the case. After I finished college, I was able to go to work full time. I just couldn't handle going to school and working and staying healthy. It was the best fight I have fought yet.
 

anonymous

New member
Check out the SSA blue book if you haven't.

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/index.htm
">http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/index.htm
</a><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/3.00-Respiratory-Adult.htm#3.04%20Cystic%20fibrosis
">http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/3.00-Respiratory-Adult.htm#3.04%20Cystic%20fibrosis
</a>
Also, there are different income and asset limits for SSDI (Medicare) and SSI (Medicaid). These are both separete programs with different restrictions (however your medical disability determination will affect both the same, I believe). Because of the cost associated with cf, Medicaid income limits are higher than listed (because the cost of meds still provide a financial hardship, even if your making 50k, without insurance).
 

anonymous

New member
Check out the SSA blue book if you haven't.

<a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/index.htm
">http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/index.htm
</a><a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/3.00-Respiratory-Adult.htm#3.04%20Cystic%20fibrosis
">http://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/3.00-Respiratory-Adult.htm#3.04%20Cystic%20fibrosis
</a>
Also, there are different income and asset limits for SSDI (Medicare) and SSI (Medicaid). These are both separete programs with different restrictions (however your medical disability determination will affect both the same, I believe). Because of the cost associated with cf, Medicaid income limits are higher than listed (because the cost of meds still provide a financial hardship, even if your making 50k, without insurance).
 
Top