MN screening newborns for CF

gsplover

New member
I was watching my local news, in Maine, and there was a report
about the State of Minnesota is now screening all newborns for CF.
 I think this is great.  The earlier the diagnosis the
better chance for a healthier life.  <br>
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What disturbed me was the parents that  they interviewed just
found out their newborn had CF.  The doctor told them not
to be too concerned because since she was diagnosised early
she should live into her 60's and 70's.  They said if they
didn't find out so earlier she would only live to be around 35 to
50.  <br>
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Isn't this false hope to the parents of this baby?  They have
the idea that if she takes her vitamins and enzymes then she will
live a long life.  Is anyone else disturbed by this?
 

anonymous

New member
Well it sounds like the doctor doesn't know what he is talking about...is 36.4 or something like that the median age right now...I mean I know that therre are people out there that are living longer but to tell them into their 60's and 70's I have never heard that before.
I don't even know what to say....where is this doc getting their info from?
Sounds to me like some false hope in there...but who knows maybe by then they will have found a cure by then. Hopefully =)
 

anonymous

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My state, ND also started newborn screening this year. My concerns have been quotes from doctors and parents of patients of "IF the lungs are affected then we can look at doing something to fix the problem". I want to scream --- IF?!! IF!!! This is a progressive disease, you need to be proactive from day one -- what's this IF stuff?

On a side note, DS was diagnosed in MN at an accreditted facility 3 years ago after he was born and a doctor who was filling in for our primary physician told my MIL when asked that she predicted there would be a cure within 5 years. My MIL keeps saying she's sooo tempted to say to the doctor if she ever sees her again --- so, less than two year to go, huh. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Landy

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Steph,
While how long we live is out of our hands to a certain degree, I do feel that this is most likely giving these parents false hope.
Maybe if their child has a mild case, never cultures MRSA, B. Cepacia, Pseudomonas, etc....they may live into their 50's or longer, but there are no guarantees.
I just think doctors should be careful when making these types of claims.
Just my 2 cents.
 

anonymous

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Lynda</b></i>

Steph,

While how long we live is out of our hands to a certain degree, I do feel that this is most likely giving these parents false hope.

Maybe if their child has a mild case, never cultures MRSA, B. Cepacia, Pseudomonas, etc....they may live into their 50's or longer, but there are no guarantees.

I just think doctors should be careful when making these types of claims.

Just my 2 cents.</end quote></div>

Do you think someone's life expectancy decreases then once they've cultured Pseudo?

Charlotte<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
 

JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>anonymous</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Lynda</b></i>



Steph,



While how long we live is out of our hands to a certain degree, I do feel that this is most likely giving these parents false hope.



Maybe if their child has a mild case, never cultures MRSA, B. Cepacia, Pseudomonas, etc....they may live into their 50's or longer, but there are no guarantees.



I just think doctors should be careful when making these types of claims.



Just my 2 cents.</end quote></div>



Do you think someone's life expectancy decreases then once they've cultured Pseudo?



Charlotte<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"></end quote></div>


Anytime you culture a bacteria that can cause havic (sp?) you are at risk of the life espectancy decreasing. The more active the bacteria, the greater chance of lung damage, the greater chance of life expectancy decrease. I keep saying chance because there are exceptions just like with Cepacia....there are many people living long & productive lives, but there are those that died only a little bit after culturing.
 

anonymous

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I think that they may have given false hope but who knows, maybe in another 10 years things could look even better for cfer's. Just think 10 - 15 years ago we didn't even have an average age of 20 to live to. And now it's becoming mandatory to have adult cf clinics. So maybe it will become mandatory to have geriatric cf clinics. It's so hard to see what it going to happen but I like to believe on the positive side that kids born today with cf are going to see alot more than us kids who were born 20 some years ago. But of course that is just what i think and I am more of an optimist because why go through life not enjoying it??!!

Nikki
26/f/cf
 

Diane

New member
Well what they are saying isnt as bad as what my first cf doctor told my parents. He told them since my cf was so mild i would "outgrow" it. Now THAT was false hope to the extreme. They believed for many, many years i actually could outgrow it. Now keep in mind when i was diagnosed it was still in the late 60's and they didnt know too much, but geeeeezzzz.
 

anonymous

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This is not disturbing to me. Keep in mind that you watched only what the news channel thought was interesting to show. Of course those parents and doctor are going to have discussions about the childs health and longevity that go well beyond what you saw in the news.

In MN, the average life span is 47. Is that true for eveyone? Of course not, there are always going to be exceptions depending on personal reaction to medication. The doctors here do not treat cf as no big deal. They make sure you know the full scope of what you are dealing with. They also preach a lot more than just taking vitamins and enzymes. Without chest therapy, nobody is going to live a long life.

I ask my doctor about once a year what he thinks my odds are, and he keeps reminging me that yes, I will most probably reach my 70s or higher - as long as I keep my health up and don't run into problems with my lungs. Of course I know that any day I could take a sharp turn and not recover, but I'm not going to start counting the days to 36 or even 47. And yes, I have pseudo and mycrobacterium.

As far as new parents? I think it's far better for the child and parents to have the hope of a long life span. When I was diagonsed, life span was 10 years (in MN). Of course I'm way past that, but it was very hard for all of my family to "count the years". While we should always love and care for our children as a gift every day, it's stressful enough to deal with a sick child, much less the stress that they could go any day.

Growing up as a "ticking time bomb" child, I can tell you that it is not fun. I would rather have grown up with hope and assumption of a normal, long life (which I have so far) than the anger and embarrassement of 1. being told I was dying 2. running into classmates and community that was shocked that I was still alive (as early as middle school). As a child, this is something that is hard to cope or know how to deal with. CF children are strong, independant and giving people, but I think we assume they can handle more than they should. To think that life span information only affects the parents is wrong.

Is death a reality? To be honest, I'm not so sure anymore. Death is a natural end to life, and yes, for us cf is likely the main cause. But to grow up with the repeated "you have cf, so you are going to die young" is getting outdated, and is a terrible stigma to grow up with. There is a reason the life span continues to raise, and I think we need to stop thinking that 36 or even 47 is equal to 90 for a normal person. Granted it may feel like that, but keep in mind that a newborn has 20 to 30 years on us. There may not be a cure tomorrow, but look how far we've come just in the last 20 years! Honestly, there may never be a cure, but if medication and therapy continues to improve, a cure won't be our only chance of survival.

Ok, I'm rambling, so I'll get back to my point: For this area, with so many examples of patients living long lives, I do not feel it was disturbing to say that to the parents. I can see how it would seem misleading to other families in other states, or make some bitter because that was not the case for their children, but that was the choice of the tv station.

Instead of being mad at the doctors, call the station and let them know that if they cover stories like these, they need to follow up that this is not the norm. I agree that the last thing we need is the general public thinking that cf is no big deal just because we are not dying young anymore.

--Wallflower, 34 w/cf
diagnosed at 2yrs on a Colorado army base
MN clinic patient since 5years old
 

anonymous

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I hope no one takes the above as yelling - I still have a hard time addressing cf without a strict tone - thats the anger I was talking about earlier <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">

I'm doing better with it - I've learned to be more patient with my clinic and forgiving with my doctors (which I know is working, because they don't ask me if I want depression medication anymore <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">).

--Wallflower
 

gsplover

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I hope no one from MN took offence to my posting.  I think the
reason it hit me like it did was no one really told me how bad CF
could be.  I knew people who had CF but I didn't see how it
really effected them.  I was diagnosised at 12.  I really
thought I would always be as health as I was when I was 12.
 My CF doctor at the time was just amazed at how healthy I
was.  I don't think I had any lung damage until I was in my
early twenties.  At that point I still thought I could reverse
that damage if I work hard enough.  Then I got a new CF
doctor.  He finally explained to me that I didn't do anything
wrong and that I can't completely control how CF will effect me.
 He has told me I am his most compliant CF patient and that is
one of the reasons I did so well for so long.   I caught
atypical TB bug.  That is when I started to see changes in my
lungs.  Then I caught Pseudo.  I do as much as I can to
limit the growth of the pseudo but I still have to accept I can't
completely control this disease.  Maybe I am mad at my first
CF doctor because he never told me how bad it could get.  I
was a long distance runner in high school.  If my doctor told
me that was the main reason I was as healthy as I was I would have
never stopped.  I stopped in college because I was lazy and
uninformed.<br>
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I guess maybe I personalized this news report.  I just want
every mother, father, and patient to be well informed.<br>
 

anonymous

New member
I know I didn't take offense to your post Steph - and I'm kinda in the same boat as you.

It wasn't until I came to this board that I realized how different everyone was with their cf. I just assumed everyone was at the same level as me, taking the same meds, so I can understand how seeing that news report all the way in Maine seemed so strange.

That's the great thing about this site - we can compare with each other and understand better what our doctors are (or are not) doing.

It's a little funny that I was mad at my doctor for telling my parents I was going to die (I guess it felt like the doctor was giving up on me in a way), and your mad because you didn't know how bad it could get. I guess there is no right or wrong - we just have to deal.

--Wallflower
 
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