Moving to the US from London

stringbean

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You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.

I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.

For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.

Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.

The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)

Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.
 

stringbean

New member
You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.

I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.

For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.

Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.

The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)

Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.
 

stringbean

New member
You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.

I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.

For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.

Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.

The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)

Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.
 

stringbean

New member
You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.

I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.

For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.

Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.

The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)

Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.
 

stringbean

New member
You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.
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<br />I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.
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<br />For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.
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<br />Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.
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<br />The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)
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<br />Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.
 

ymikhale

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>stringbean</b></i>

You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.



I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.



For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.



Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.



The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)



Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.</end quote></div>


I am actually one of those who experienced both systems. I used to live in the US and had some health issues before having moved to France, where I had my daughter with CF.

I can just give you my two cents on this and what my experience has been.

The big advantage in the US is that you have a lot of choices in terms of doctors, second opinions etc - if you have a insurance that allows it. With my first job in the US I had an HMO, so it was a big headache to go see a specialist I wanted. The second job I got a PPO and it was more flexible.

Regardless of the type of coverage, like others mentioned here it is often a fight to get things covered, or sometimes the insurance oks something and then you get a bill and spend lots of time getting it straightened out.

Another thing I disliked is that the healthcare is very money oriented. The doctors only have so much time to give you b/c the clock is ticking, so I often felt pressured to wrap up within 1/2 an hour. Also sometimes they are reluctant to give you a referral to a specialist b/c it makes them look bad for the insurance (or something like that).

In the socialized medecine money is not an issue and I am really grateful for that b/c I can wholly focus on my dd's health instead of spending time fighting with the insurance.
Also I really appreciate that fact that the appointment will last as long as I need it to, since money does not come into play.

On the negative side, the system is sometimes over stretched and you have to be really pushy sometimes to get things moving. Also you really need to be in a good hospital near a major center: if you live in countryside, you get assigned to a small hospital, they might not even have TOBI available.

That is about all I can think of. Sorry for the long post. good luck with your decision.
 

ymikhale

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>stringbean</b></i>

You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.



I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.



For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.



Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.



The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)



Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.</end quote></div>


I am actually one of those who experienced both systems. I used to live in the US and had some health issues before having moved to France, where I had my daughter with CF.

I can just give you my two cents on this and what my experience has been.

The big advantage in the US is that you have a lot of choices in terms of doctors, second opinions etc - if you have a insurance that allows it. With my first job in the US I had an HMO, so it was a big headache to go see a specialist I wanted. The second job I got a PPO and it was more flexible.

Regardless of the type of coverage, like others mentioned here it is often a fight to get things covered, or sometimes the insurance oks something and then you get a bill and spend lots of time getting it straightened out.

Another thing I disliked is that the healthcare is very money oriented. The doctors only have so much time to give you b/c the clock is ticking, so I often felt pressured to wrap up within 1/2 an hour. Also sometimes they are reluctant to give you a referral to a specialist b/c it makes them look bad for the insurance (or something like that).

In the socialized medecine money is not an issue and I am really grateful for that b/c I can wholly focus on my dd's health instead of spending time fighting with the insurance.
Also I really appreciate that fact that the appointment will last as long as I need it to, since money does not come into play.

On the negative side, the system is sometimes over stretched and you have to be really pushy sometimes to get things moving. Also you really need to be in a good hospital near a major center: if you live in countryside, you get assigned to a small hospital, they might not even have TOBI available.

That is about all I can think of. Sorry for the long post. good luck with your decision.
 

ymikhale

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>stringbean</b></i>

You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.



I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.



For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.



Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.



The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)



Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.</end quote></div>


I am actually one of those who experienced both systems. I used to live in the US and had some health issues before having moved to France, where I had my daughter with CF.

I can just give you my two cents on this and what my experience has been.

The big advantage in the US is that you have a lot of choices in terms of doctors, second opinions etc - if you have a insurance that allows it. With my first job in the US I had an HMO, so it was a big headache to go see a specialist I wanted. The second job I got a PPO and it was more flexible.

Regardless of the type of coverage, like others mentioned here it is often a fight to get things covered, or sometimes the insurance oks something and then you get a bill and spend lots of time getting it straightened out.

Another thing I disliked is that the healthcare is very money oriented. The doctors only have so much time to give you b/c the clock is ticking, so I often felt pressured to wrap up within 1/2 an hour. Also sometimes they are reluctant to give you a referral to a specialist b/c it makes them look bad for the insurance (or something like that).

In the socialized medecine money is not an issue and I am really grateful for that b/c I can wholly focus on my dd's health instead of spending time fighting with the insurance.
Also I really appreciate that fact that the appointment will last as long as I need it to, since money does not come into play.

On the negative side, the system is sometimes over stretched and you have to be really pushy sometimes to get things moving. Also you really need to be in a good hospital near a major center: if you live in countryside, you get assigned to a small hospital, they might not even have TOBI available.

That is about all I can think of. Sorry for the long post. good luck with your decision.
 

ymikhale

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>stringbean</b></i>

You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.



I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.



For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.



Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.



The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)



Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.</end quote>


I am actually one of those who experienced both systems. I used to live in the US and had some health issues before having moved to France, where I had my daughter with CF.

I can just give you my two cents on this and what my experience has been.

The big advantage in the US is that you have a lot of choices in terms of doctors, second opinions etc - if you have a insurance that allows it. With my first job in the US I had an HMO, so it was a big headache to go see a specialist I wanted. The second job I got a PPO and it was more flexible.

Regardless of the type of coverage, like others mentioned here it is often a fight to get things covered, or sometimes the insurance oks something and then you get a bill and spend lots of time getting it straightened out.

Another thing I disliked is that the healthcare is very money oriented. The doctors only have so much time to give you b/c the clock is ticking, so I often felt pressured to wrap up within 1/2 an hour. Also sometimes they are reluctant to give you a referral to a specialist b/c it makes them look bad for the insurance (or something like that).

In the socialized medecine money is not an issue and I am really grateful for that b/c I can wholly focus on my dd's health instead of spending time fighting with the insurance.
Also I really appreciate that fact that the appointment will last as long as I need it to, since money does not come into play.

On the negative side, the system is sometimes over stretched and you have to be really pushy sometimes to get things moving. Also you really need to be in a good hospital near a major center: if you live in countryside, you get assigned to a small hospital, they might not even have TOBI available.

That is about all I can think of. Sorry for the long post. good luck with your decision.
 

ymikhale

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>stringbean</b></i>
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<br />You should probably talk to people who have used both systems. If you talk to a thousand people in the US you'll get a thousand different opinions because it all depends on what type of coverage you have. In London, you are accustomed to one method and that method applies to everyone; here it depends on which insurance company you have, what type of coverage your employer negotiated in their contract... Too many variables to give you a good answer.
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<br />I lived in Japan for two years and I will say that I much preferred their system. In two years, I never paid for any medical services or medicine (my daughter never had anything more than checkups or ear infections, so I didn't truly test the system.) A friend of mine there delivered six weeks prematurely and she stayed in the hospital for one week and her baby stayed for six weeks. She paid nothing. I have a friend here who had similar circumstances. She had to leave the hospital after 48 hours, the baby stayed for one month. They paid $10,000 out of pocket for all the neo-natal care and they had a ton of fights with the insurance company. I don't know anything about what the babies needed, so it may be an unfair comparison.
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<br />For another friend in Japan, the doctor found that her nine-month-old baby was deaf. She and her husband planned on moving stateside because they thought she'd be better off in the US. But they did check through the insurance plan of his company and discovered that some procedure that was considered routine in Japan was considered experimental in the US and NOT covered at all. It would have been about $25,000 out of pocket. They stayed in Japan for a few more months to have the procedure done.
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<br />Our daughter broke her nose and the insurance company decided surgery was cosmetic and denied coverage, despite having three doctors declare it was medically necessary. We appealed the decision, but they wouldn't cover it. While we fought with the ins co, our daughter's nose healed so we were facing a significantly more extensive procedure (rebreaking the nose and a couple days of hospitalization) and pay for the entire thing on our own. We decided against putting her through that, but to this day she continues to get headaches and sinus pain, so we may end up doing it after all.
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<br />The system here is hit or miss. If you get good coverage, you may think it's just wonderful. However, you may end up with high co-pays and insurance companies who make the decisions about medical care (and we are considered to have very good insurance -- but after living in a place with national coverage, I think our system is completely unfair.)
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<br />Find someone who has worked within both the US system and the National Care you have and talk to them. Otherwise, you are gathering opinions of people who have no comparison point. For some of us, it's worked really well. And for others of us, there are some shockingly bad stories.</end quote>
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<br />I am actually one of those who experienced both systems. I used to live in the US and had some health issues before having moved to France, where I had my daughter with CF.
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<br />I can just give you my two cents on this and what my experience has been.
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<br />The big advantage in the US is that you have a lot of choices in terms of doctors, second opinions etc - if you have a insurance that allows it. With my first job in the US I had an HMO, so it was a big headache to go see a specialist I wanted. The second job I got a PPO and it was more flexible.
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<br />Regardless of the type of coverage, like others mentioned here it is often a fight to get things covered, or sometimes the insurance oks something and then you get a bill and spend lots of time getting it straightened out.
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<br />Another thing I disliked is that the healthcare is very money oriented. The doctors only have so much time to give you b/c the clock is ticking, so I often felt pressured to wrap up within 1/2 an hour. Also sometimes they are reluctant to give you a referral to a specialist b/c it makes them look bad for the insurance (or something like that).
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<br />In the socialized medecine money is not an issue and I am really grateful for that b/c I can wholly focus on my dd's health instead of spending time fighting with the insurance.
<br />Also I really appreciate that fact that the appointment will last as long as I need it to, since money does not come into play.
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<br />On the negative side, the system is sometimes over stretched and you have to be really pushy sometimes to get things moving. Also you really need to be in a good hospital near a major center: if you live in countryside, you get assigned to a small hospital, they might not even have TOBI available.
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<br />That is about all I can think of. Sorry for the long post. good luck with your decision.
 

NancyLKF

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Just as an added note: regardless of insurance, some states have a program called Children with Special Health Needs which covers CF related expenses for life after insurance. You get a deductible for the year depending on your income. (ours is $360) I know that Vermont has this and perhaps a few other states as well. You should look into the state programs for the area you are looking to move to.
 

NancyLKF

New member
Just as an added note: regardless of insurance, some states have a program called Children with Special Health Needs which covers CF related expenses for life after insurance. You get a deductible for the year depending on your income. (ours is $360) I know that Vermont has this and perhaps a few other states as well. You should look into the state programs for the area you are looking to move to.
 

NancyLKF

New member
Just as an added note: regardless of insurance, some states have a program called Children with Special Health Needs which covers CF related expenses for life after insurance. You get a deductible for the year depending on your income. (ours is $360) I know that Vermont has this and perhaps a few other states as well. You should look into the state programs for the area you are looking to move to.
 

NancyLKF

New member
Just as an added note: regardless of insurance, some states have a program called Children with Special Health Needs which covers CF related expenses for life after insurance. You get a deductible for the year depending on your income. (ours is $360) I know that Vermont has this and perhaps a few other states as well. You should look into the state programs for the area you are looking to move to.
 

NancyLKF

New member
Just as an added note: regardless of insurance, some states have a program called Children with Special Health Needs which covers CF related expenses for life after insurance. You get a deductible for the year depending on your income. (ours is $360) I know that Vermont has this and perhaps a few other states as well. You should look into the state programs for the area you are looking to move to.
 
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