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melleemac

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Ive just learned that this year at school the boys will be learning to play a musical instrument. Last year they were taught to play the recorder, which they both owned.
I have two concerns........one is that these instruments have been used by other children, Im really worried about them using the same instrument that someone else has used..........how do I know if they have been cleaned?
Another worry is wether the boys actually have the lung capacity to play something like the trumpet or trombone etc.
Does anybody else play an instrument?
Mel
 

Emily65Roses

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They don't have to try a trumpet or trombone. If they want to try those, I say let them. But when I was that age and in the "musical instrument" program at school, I tried a viola. No lung capacity involved.
 
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melleemac

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The boys are not allowed to play bass guitar unless they are already taken lessons, which they are not.
The list of instruments that they have are.......clarinet, alto sax, tenor sax, french horn, flute, tumpet, and trombone. Thats it!
Mel
 

ejwiegert

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Discuss the issue with the band director. They can come up with many possible solutions for you. In some cases new mouth pieces can be purchased and the director can show you and your children how to clean the instruments.

I have no experience as a parent and band, but I do have band director (auxillaries...sp) experience.

Woodwinds and brass instruments in many cases can help improve lung compacity.

Emily
 

anonymous

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Mel,
Our ENT recommends wind instruments for all CFers. He said the breathing exercises you have to do to play the instrument really help with capacity. Not exactly like an extra PT session, but good nonetheless. Our DS was too young to start at the time (5). I do understand your concern on sharing the instruments. Not sure what to tell you there since I have no experience with wind instruments. Oldest DS (no cf) plays violin - we bought it on a payment plan.
HTH.
Another Mel<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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I play the french horn, trumpet, and I'm learning the clarinet. I also play (and have taught) piano. The big brass instruments are EXCELLENT for improving lung function. All the sustained breathing is wonderful exercise.

Personally, I think the french horn is the best for excercise. I don't think it has the same potential for causing problems with sinuses from overblowing to hit the higher notes on a trumpet. Trombone and F. horn are excellent choices because you need to train yourself to breathe from the gut.

If your kid is the only one who will be using the instrument for the school year, then take it home and disinfect it. The valves of the horn can be taken out and put in boiling water in the bathtub. If this is not an option, then at a minimum, be sure your kid has his own mouthpiece. I always boiled my mouthpiece at the same time as I cleaned my nebulizer cups.

I'm excited that the kids are looking to play an instrument! Music is a skilll worth having. I hope they find something that provides enjoyment and exercise. I'd LOVE to talk with you if you have other questions. My husband and I are both musicians--though for me it's a frequent hobby and not a profession as it is for him. His company writes the lesson books that your kids may be using in band!

I look forward to hearing from you if you get a chance.

-lightNlife
 

Allie

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I play the violin, and I can tell you music is a GIFT. It's exciting, though your worries are justified. If i remember right, your boys don't have too much lung function, so I wpould NOT suggest the flute, because I know it takes tons....which of those takes the least, I have no idea. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0"> WHY NO STRINGS??? Stupid music dept.
 

dyza

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I would suggest that the smaller instruments like the flute would need less lung capacity to use. But yes it would help immensely with lung function.

Blowing a trombone can be quite exhausting, my brother plays the bagpipes and he tells me that it is easier to keep them up than a trumpet.
 

Seana30

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I think music is so important for children.

Lauren plays violin, Courtney plays cello, and Cameron plays the drums.

Maybe you can rent the instruments from your local music store. That way they are the only ones using it.

We pay $15.00 a month for Cameron's drums and $35.00 for Courtney's cello. It is not real expensive and that will ensure no germs are passed around.

Seana
 
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IG

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Starting off on the first. If your school has a good music program each student gets an instrument (or rents one through a company) at the beginning of the year until the end of the year. (I know my school did this) the instruments were inspected and cleaned before being given to students, in anycase all of them were taken out of the band hall and given a thorough inspection at the end of the year. That being said if you are worried as the band instructor.

'I would suggest that the smaller instruments like the flute would need less lung capacity to use. '

Sorry but wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong and why? If you're going to take an instrument why not try to get out of it all that you can in the first place. I mean yes I know it's up to the person potentially playing what they want to do but why restrict yourself (or somebody else) because you feel they can't? My band director did that to me and I chose the flute to spite her, and I became good at it, very good at it.

Out of all the instruments in the band the flute probably takes the most lung capacity to play. In fact I was warned against trying the flute because it took so much air capacity, and would work my lungs beyond what the school band director (at the time) thought I could handle.

With the flute you are not pushing air into a mouthpiece you're expelling air from your diaphram. In the correct musical setting taking a breath every few second is not permitted and makes the music sound bad particularly if you are playing in a concert. They have things like 'rounds' prevent this even, so certain people are permitted to breathe at certain times. Learning how to control your breathing to get certain sounds, and how to channel your breath is great for your lungs. I know when I first started playing it helped me with PFTs just learning how to breathe properly. (For reference when I was listed my FEV1 was 32-42%, and stayed there for 3 years, I credit it to playing an instrument). It makes you work, but it's worth it.

'your boys don't have too much lung function, so I would NOT suggest the flute, because I know it takes tons....'

sorry but i'm going to say this again.
No.
Wrong, not a good recommendation (sorry Allie)

When I first started playing the flute it was hard, mostly because I did not know how to get the mouthpiece turned just right to make a sound. Then conditioning your lips to hold that position (embouchure) wow not fun. But I credit the flute to maintaining my PFTs for quite a few years. Naturally I was on a downhill spiral due to having caught MRSA, but I credit the band for keeping my PFTs up as much as they were. I never coughed up so much crap as when I did after band practice. It exercises your lungs and keeps you breathing. Yes it makes you work tons but you build up to it and it is sooooo worth it. When I first started playing the flute I was 13 or so I was listed at the end of 13 for transplant but my numbers stayed steady. I didn't really start to go downhill until I built up a resistance to everything but vanco (late 16-17-ish)

'Woodwinds and brass instruments in many cases can help improve lung compacity.'
Bingo!
I don't care how low your lung functions are but it definitely can't hurt it. The only way it would hurt with CF is not trying something and holding back because it 'might' be too much to handle. Never know til you try.

I know I'm making such a big deal over the flute but a lot of people have misconceptions about it. I know your boys probably wouldn't want to play something girly such as a flute, and that's cool because I know a lot of the instruments have benefits for CFers (even the drums build up muscles and keep you moving). Just try something! Personally I would recommend the flute, and I've said that many many times before on these forums...

I hope I have not offended anybody with what I've said I just hate to see a good opportunity go missing, especially one as beneficial as band/an instrument can be.
 

Allie

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>When I first started playing the flute it was hard, mostly because I did not know how to get the mouthpiece turned just right to make a sound. Then conditioning your lips to hold that position (embouchure) wow not fun. But I credit the flute to maintaining my PFTs for quite a few years</end quote></div>

haha, my bad then. Kudos. I just remembered trying it and couldn't get a sound.

The violin is still cooler <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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melleemac

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Thanks to all who replied to my post...Im going to speak to their music teacher about the cleanliness of the intruments. The instruments are not rented, they are what they have at the school. The boys have just informed me that other kids use the instruments but use a different mouth piece. This still really worries me.
As for picking an instrument, Ive decided not to limit them but to let them choose and if they dont like it they can try something else.
Ive never restricted my boys from trying new things, and dont intend to start now, but that doesnt stop me from worrying!
Mel
 
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IG

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Allie</b></i>
haha, my bad then. Kudos. I just remembered trying it and couldn't get a sound.



The violin is still cooler <img src=""></end quote></div>

That's cool. It took me nearly a week to get anything resembling a sound out of it. But once I got it, it was the coolest thing ever. I always wanted to try the violin. Then my cousin started playing it. I changed my mind quickly. (probably more due to her playing than the instrument itself.. and the band didn't have a string section.. pity.

Mel, as for other people using the same instrument but different mouth pieces, things like the flute you're not breathing into and out of you're just breathing air across so chances of cross contamination are while not 100% gone I would have to say they are minimal, especially if it's using different heads. If I remember correctly things like a trumpet and french horn you're not breathing in from either you're either breathing in through your nose, or lifting your mouth away from the mouthpiece. Not for certain on that though. But you do breath out into them.. if that makes sense, and I could be wrong. <img src="">
And it makes perfect sense to worry about something like this.
Never know what's been where nowadays.

Like this one time at band camp...
<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> just kidding.
 

thelizardqueen

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I played the trumpet in church band when I was younger, and I also played the flute all through junior high. I found that the flute seemed a lot easier for me to play, but that it did work my lungs out. I loved playing the flute too.
 

anonymous

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>tLike this one time at band camp... </end quote></div>

Ha ha!<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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I started playing the flute in May this year after my doctor recommended it to improve lung capacity. At first it was hard to make it sound and i would get a bit dizzy but after a while it got much easier quick. My teacher emphasizes a lot on breathing and we do tons of breathing exercises in class. She´s really cool too. BTW i also play the violin and flute is sooooo much easier.
 
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skh

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My daughter with cf started playing the flute this past year. I believe it has really helped build up her lung capacity. I don't think I would be comfortable with her using an instrument that is used by others. That's just gross!
 
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