Nasal Wash

thelizardqueen

New member
So I've noticed that a lot of you guys take nasal washes/sprays for your sinuses, and just have a couple of questions. I don't normally have problems with my sinuses unless I'm sick with a head cold (then my sinuses plug up like crazy). The only time I can ever think of having sinus problems i.e. polyps, was when I was younger and a doctor informed me that I had a slight polyp, but that he wasn't too concerned. Nothing was ever done with it, and I haven't really had problems since. Again the only time I have sinus problems is when I'm sick and I'm stuffed up like crazy. My question is, is that do you think I would benefit from a wash when I'm sick? Will it help me out at all? As well, is this something I would need a prescription for or can I get it over the counter? What types of washes/sprays do you guys use?

Any info would be helpful!
 

lightNlife

New member
Hi Liz,

The benefit of doing nasal washes is a lot like HS nebs. I helps keep the mucus membranes slippery so that things can move around in there much more easily, and as a result the extra sticky mucus has less opportunity to get stuck and attract infections. Any saline nasal spray OTC should work (I've even had good experience with store brand stuff!) Or you can make your own solution with warmed tap water and kosher salt. I forget the ratio of water to salt, but I can get back to you with that info if you want. Just let me know <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

lightNlife

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Okie dokie, here's the recipe:

boil 1 quart of distilled water
add 3 Tbs of kosher salt (or sea salt)
1 Tbs baking soda

Lean over the sink with your mouth open. Use one of those bulb syringe thingies to squirt it in. Aim for the back of your head and not the top. Stop when the water comes out of your mouth. It might feel really weird at first, but it doesn't take long to get used to it. If it's really too strong or if your nasal passages are really dry, back off on the amount of salt in there.

I had my first sinus surgery when I was 15, and this was the wash procedure that I followed. I notice I get fewer sinus infections and fewer headaches when I stick with this as part of my routine. I didn't have another sinus surgery until last year, and amazingly, the recommended sinus wash hadn't changed. I'm guessing that means there's something to it.

Happy rinsing!
 

chipper28

New member
I've been doing nasal washes for at least a decade now and they are
amazing.  Only problem is they are addictive.  I
typically use a waterpik with the Gossan (someone correct me if
that's wrong) tip minimum twice a day.  I mix my own solution
each time.  Run hot water and 1.5-2 tsps of salt (sea salt or
canning/pickling salt, NOT a salt with iodine), mix, add some
cooler water and run through both nostrils.  I personally open
the back of my throat a few times during each side to let some come
down my throat into my mouth because I find this helps my throat
from getting sore, but you can let all of the water come out the
other nostril.<br>
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I find that these help so much that I've actually taken to using
one of the neti yoga pots during the day.  I go to the
bathroom on a different floor in my building from my office (I'd
rather random people see if someone comes in) and rinse each sinus.
 It would be possible to fill the pot at the sink and then run
your nose into the toilet if you were really shy, but I think that
would just be weird.   I use the premeasured packets that
also contain baking soda at work just for the convenience.
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I notice three benefits from the rinses: 1. I can breathe through
my nose when I'm doing them which I can't ever do otherwise, 2. my
nasal medicines seem to work more effectively when I take them
after I've rinsed my sinuses 3. if I have an infection, the rinses
help to clear it out and also seems really important in preventing
the infection from going down in my chest.<br>
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I also get a temporary benefit in that it really helps the
postnasal drip problem for a while.  There is one problem with
this.  It's supposed to be bad to do these rinses closer than
about an hour before you go to bed because all of the water might
not drain out of your head before you lie down and then it can
cause an infection, but having just rinsed helps postnasal drip and
cough so that it's easier to sleep... I think you might just have
to play with that personally and see how long it takes you to make
sure it's all drained out.  Also, this is probably affected by
whether or not you have had windows installed in your sinuses.<br>
<br>
In addition to these rinses, if you study Neti Yoga, they will
train you how to use some sort of string to basically floss your
sinuses.  I've never done this or even tried, but do know that
it exists.<br>
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One last thought.  When I'm healthy, I use what my doc calls
hypertonic saline (not sure how this relates to the nebulized kind)
which is lesser concentration, but when sick, he has me up the
concentration substantially so that I'm putting 3 to 3.5 teaspoons
in the waterpik bucket.  This higher concentration can be
painful (many kids have to build up to being able to tolerate it
and some people just can't), but it seems to really do the job of
addressing mucous membranes well.<br>
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That's all I've got, but I'd be interested to see what other people
say.  One thing that I've been thinking about recently is if
there would be some way to add an antibiotic into the rinse so you
could bet antibiotic up in there like the ENTs do during sinus
surgery... Not sure if drugs even work that way, but it sounded
like an interesting idea to me. <br>
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anonymous

New member
We use Neil Med sinus rinses with our son. He started with sinus issues soon after turning one year old. He had a PICC and then surgery. We've been doing nasal rinses once to twice daily ever since. Warwick told us that the same problem with the mucous happens in the nose so it is best to keep it moving as much as possible. Neil Med rinses can be bought usually at a local pharmacy. We have to order the Pediatric Kits.

Megan
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
My bro-in-law with chronic sinus problems (no cf) has used the Neil Med rinses and I think he has a netti pot, too.

We were told with DS to use regular saline spray a couple squirts a couple times a day just to keep things moving. We use simply saline which is a compressed air spray rather than spray because I'm afraid when I squeeze the plastic bottle when he's particularly boogery, it might act like a bulb syringe and suck the nasty stuff back in the bottle. We use the 3% hypertonic simply saline.

On a side note -- any of you on tobi. Have you noticed that your boogers are thicker, stickier -- that you have more of a problem when you do tobi? I notice that after a few days DS is digging in nose and he pulls out stuff that looks like rubber cement. Then a few days after we're done with tobi, it stops... weird, huh?
 

NoExcuses

New member
Nasacort AQ is an intranasal steroid. It reduces inflammation of the nasal terbinates which, which un-inflammed, can facilitate sinus drainage. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Lilith

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I think it would certainly benefit you, Liz, at least when you're
sick.  My sinuses are evil, so I do it every day.  I used
to use the saltwater mix, but my doc recommended a product called
"Ayr".  Its just a saline wash in a spray bottle.
 I tilt my head back and drip that stuff into my nose,
breathing it in through my sinuses until I can't take anymore and
it starts to drip in the back of my throat.  Sometimes it
makes me choke, but it gets most of the stuff out, and its a lot
more convenient than mixing the salt solution.  I find that if
I breathe through my nose for a little while during my HS, that
helps flush things out, too.
 

anonymous

New member
My daughter was suffering from a pretty nasty sinus infection. She felt instant relief from her very first Neil Med Sinus Rinse...she wanted me to call her doctor right then and thank him...in addition...we were both recently suffering from a bad cold...and I have to say...her congestion was not nearly as bad as mine...I think that the sinus rinse kept her healthier. She was over her nasal symptoms much sooner than I.
 
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