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Oregano oil?
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Thanks ive read so much about it there is lots of threads. What i am interested in is how to nebulise this oil? Can i use my normal neb which i use colymicin, dnase etc in? I heard a mention of a facial sauna? what is this and how is it different? and what do i mix the oil with, normal saline etc? if anyone could help would be great i am definitly willing to try this as my lung function and health has took a turn for the worst lately.
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Thanks ive read so much about it there is lots of threads. What i am interested in is how to nebulise this oil? Can i use my normal neb which i use colymicin, dnase etc in? I heard a mention of a facial sauna? what is this and how is it different? and what do i mix the oil with, normal saline etc? if anyone could help would be great i am definitly willing to try this as my lung function and health has took a turn for the worst lately.
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Thanks ive read so much about it there is lots of threads. What i am interested in is how to nebulise this oil? Can i use my normal neb which i use colymicin, dnase etc in? I heard a mention of a facial sauna? what is this and how is it different? and what do i mix the oil with, normal saline etc? if anyone could help would be great i am definitly willing to try this as my lung function and health has took a turn for the worst lately.
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>
You can neb the oil, but make sure to use it's own nebulizer for it, as in don't use the same neb for it you also use pulmozyme, and other stuff in. I personally use the same neb that I've always used my albuterol in. If you neb the regular oil it will be a tad messy and you won't be able to get all of the oil into your lungs because well, it's oil and the carrier substance you are using to neb it with (albuterol, saline, sterile water, etc) is water based. If you want to do a little lookin around and spending a little more, and you want a much more friendly form of the stuff to nebulize, go to www.p-73.com and click on contact, and tell them you want to purchase the water soluble form of the oil, it's called "H2 Orega". It's very hard to find anywhere, including the internet (I still never found any other place for it), besides the manufacturers website. They will sell it to you and ship it to you over the phone via credit card. It is more expensive than the regular stuff because they only make small batches of the stuff (don't make it in large bulk like the reg stuff), and the process to turn the stuff water soluble is apparently a lengthy process.
As for using a facial sauna, that is another way to get benefit out of oregano oil and other essential oils. Most people prefer to use oregano oil, cinnamon oil (ceylon), clove oil, and thyme oil (white or red, up to you) with either sterile water or distilled (sterile is best, but distilled is close to that and cheap to get) water in the inhaler with 1-2 drops of each added and inhaled to tolerance for 10 or so mins. If you are looking for what brand of facial sauna to get, any of them will do, but make sure it has an "inhaler attachment". Homedics is the brand I use, but again, any will do as long as it has an inhaler attachment. As for your probably next question as to where to get the oils, just google up any oil i mentioned (except the oregano oil, so far the north american herb and spice oreganol P-73 is by far the best), and you will find a ton of sources to buy them off the net. NOW foods brand offers every oil I mentioned, and their quality is pretty good, so you can get the clove, thyme, and cinnamon oil from them if you want, it's what I use for the most part.
The only side effect that is guaranteed to take place when using these oils is that the oils are a blood thinner, so you should take a vitamin K supplement when using the oils (you should be on that anyways if you have CF). Other than that, there has only been one other mentioned side effect that couldn't be directly attributed to the oils use (patient was post op lung transplant on tons of medications), and that was headaches. The oils seem to totally decimate microbes in a cystics system, especially Pseudomonas, yeasts, and other yuckies that make our life suck. They are also great for helping to control our inflamatory problems, and i'd venture to say they are a healthier alternative to massive steroidal use, but taking that advice (cause i've never been on any long term steroids) is your own personal risk, I don't want to be known as the guy to recommend someone stop doing their steroids and do oils instead, and then have that person get bad off and they blame me, so that's up to you. Personally the oils have really helped me lung bug wise, and lung feeling wise, and have totally cured my gout problem I had (it was bad), along with other achy/slight arthritic joint issues I had.
Hope my information was useful, and hope you end up feeling as good or better than myself and many cystics have felt after using the oils.
(and thank you jazzy for saying exactly what I was going to say and saving me from replying, I would have just quoted you and said thanks, but the followup post from this person was seeking more information and i'm tired so I thought i'd respond)
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>
You can neb the oil, but make sure to use it's own nebulizer for it, as in don't use the same neb for it you also use pulmozyme, and other stuff in. I personally use the same neb that I've always used my albuterol in. If you neb the regular oil it will be a tad messy and you won't be able to get all of the oil into your lungs because well, it's oil and the carrier substance you are using to neb it with (albuterol, saline, sterile water, etc) is water based. If you want to do a little lookin around and spending a little more, and you want a much more friendly form of the stuff to nebulize, go to www.p-73.com and click on contact, and tell them you want to purchase the water soluble form of the oil, it's called "H2 Orega". It's very hard to find anywhere, including the internet (I still never found any other place for it), besides the manufacturers website. They will sell it to you and ship it to you over the phone via credit card. It is more expensive than the regular stuff because they only make small batches of the stuff (don't make it in large bulk like the reg stuff), and the process to turn the stuff water soluble is apparently a lengthy process.
As for using a facial sauna, that is another way to get benefit out of oregano oil and other essential oils. Most people prefer to use oregano oil, cinnamon oil (ceylon), clove oil, and thyme oil (white or red, up to you) with either sterile water or distilled (sterile is best, but distilled is close to that and cheap to get) water in the inhaler with 1-2 drops of each added and inhaled to tolerance for 10 or so mins. If you are looking for what brand of facial sauna to get, any of them will do, but make sure it has an "inhaler attachment". Homedics is the brand I use, but again, any will do as long as it has an inhaler attachment. As for your probably next question as to where to get the oils, just google up any oil i mentioned (except the oregano oil, so far the north american herb and spice oreganol P-73 is by far the best), and you will find a ton of sources to buy them off the net. NOW foods brand offers every oil I mentioned, and their quality is pretty good, so you can get the clove, thyme, and cinnamon oil from them if you want, it's what I use for the most part.
The only side effect that is guaranteed to take place when using these oils is that the oils are a blood thinner, so you should take a vitamin K supplement when using the oils (you should be on that anyways if you have CF). Other than that, there has only been one other mentioned side effect that couldn't be directly attributed to the oils use (patient was post op lung transplant on tons of medications), and that was headaches. The oils seem to totally decimate microbes in a cystics system, especially Pseudomonas, yeasts, and other yuckies that make our life suck. They are also great for helping to control our inflamatory problems, and i'd venture to say they are a healthier alternative to massive steroidal use, but taking that advice (cause i've never been on any long term steroids) is your own personal risk, I don't want to be known as the guy to recommend someone stop doing their steroids and do oils instead, and then have that person get bad off and they blame me, so that's up to you. Personally the oils have really helped me lung bug wise, and lung feeling wise, and have totally cured my gout problem I had (it was bad), along with other achy/slight arthritic joint issues I had.
Hope my information was useful, and hope you end up feeling as good or better than myself and many cystics have felt after using the oils.
(and thank you jazzy for saying exactly what I was going to say and saving me from replying, I would have just quoted you and said thanks, but the followup post from this person was seeking more information and i'm tired so I thought i'd respond)
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Thanks ive read so much about it there is lots of threads. What i am interested in is how to nebulise this oil? Can i use my normal neb which i use colymicin, dnase etc in? I heard a mention of a facial sauna? what is this and how is it different? and what do i mix the oil with, normal saline etc? if anyone could help would be great i am definitly willing to try this as my lung function and health has took a turn for the worst lately.
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>
You can neb the oil, but make sure to use it's own nebulizer for it, as in don't use the same neb for it you also use pulmozyme, and other stuff in. I personally use the same neb that I've always used my albuterol in. If you neb the regular oil it will be a tad messy and you won't be able to get all of the oil into your lungs because well, it's oil and the carrier substance you are using to neb it with (albuterol, saline, sterile water, etc) is water based. If you want to do a little lookin around and spending a little more, and you want a much more friendly form of the stuff to nebulize, go to www.p-73.com and click on contact, and tell them you want to purchase the water soluble form of the oil, it's called "H2 Orega". It's very hard to find anywhere, including the internet (I still never found any other place for it), besides the manufacturers website. They will sell it to you and ship it to you over the phone via credit card. It is more expensive than the regular stuff because they only make small batches of the stuff (don't make it in large bulk like the reg stuff), and the process to turn the stuff water soluble is apparently a lengthy process.
As for using a facial sauna, that is another way to get benefit out of oregano oil and other essential oils. Most people prefer to use oregano oil, cinnamon oil (ceylon), clove oil, and thyme oil (white or red, up to you) with either sterile water or distilled (sterile is best, but distilled is close to that and cheap to get) water in the inhaler with 1-2 drops of each added and inhaled to tolerance for 10 or so mins. If you are looking for what brand of facial sauna to get, any of them will do, but make sure it has an "inhaler attachment". Homedics is the brand I use, but again, any will do as long as it has an inhaler attachment. As for your probably next question as to where to get the oils, just google up any oil i mentioned (except the oregano oil, so far the north american herb and spice oreganol P-73 is by far the best), and you will find a ton of sources to buy them off the net. NOW foods brand offers every oil I mentioned, and their quality is pretty good, so you can get the clove, thyme, and cinnamon oil from them if you want, it's what I use for the most part.
The only side effect that is guaranteed to take place when using these oils is that the oils are a blood thinner, so you should take a vitamin K supplement when using the oils (you should be on that anyways if you have CF). Other than that, there has only been one other mentioned side effect that couldn't be directly attributed to the oils use (patient was post op lung transplant on tons of medications), and that was headaches. The oils seem to totally decimate microbes in a cystics system, especially Pseudomonas, yeasts, and other yuckies that make our life suck. They are also great for helping to control our inflamatory problems, and i'd venture to say they are a healthier alternative to massive steroidal use, but taking that advice (cause i've never been on any long term steroids) is your own personal risk, I don't want to be known as the guy to recommend someone stop doing their steroids and do oils instead, and then have that person get bad off and they blame me, so that's up to you. Personally the oils have really helped me lung bug wise, and lung feeling wise, and have totally cured my gout problem I had (it was bad), along with other achy/slight arthritic joint issues I had.
Hope my information was useful, and hope you end up feeling as good or better than myself and many cystics have felt after using the oils.
(and thank you jazzy for saying exactly what I was going to say and saving me from replying, I would have just quoted you and said thanks, but the followup post from this person was seeking more information and i'm tired so I thought i'd respond)
Thanks Michelle <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>
You can neb the oil, but make sure to use it's own nebulizer for it, as in don't use the same neb for it you also use pulmozyme, and other stuff in. I personally use the same neb that I've always used my albuterol in. If you neb the regular oil it will be a tad messy and you won't be able to get all of the oil into your lungs because well, it's oil and the carrier substance you are using to neb it with (albuterol, saline, sterile water, etc) is water based. If you want to do a little lookin around and spending a little more, and you want a much more friendly form of the stuff to nebulize, go to www.p-73.com and click on contact, and tell them you want to purchase the water soluble form of the oil, it's called "H2 Orega". It's very hard to find anywhere, including the internet (I still never found any other place for it), besides the manufacturers website. They will sell it to you and ship it to you over the phone via credit card. It is more expensive than the regular stuff because they only make small batches of the stuff (don't make it in large bulk like the reg stuff), and the process to turn the stuff water soluble is apparently a lengthy process.
As for using a facial sauna, that is another way to get benefit out of oregano oil and other essential oils. Most people prefer to use oregano oil, cinnamon oil (ceylon), clove oil, and thyme oil (white or red, up to you) with either sterile water or distilled (sterile is best, but distilled is close to that and cheap to get) water in the inhaler with 1-2 drops of each added and inhaled to tolerance for 10 or so mins. If you are looking for what brand of facial sauna to get, any of them will do, but make sure it has an "inhaler attachment". Homedics is the brand I use, but again, any will do as long as it has an inhaler attachment. As for your probably next question as to where to get the oils, just google up any oil i mentioned (except the oregano oil, so far the north american herb and spice oreganol P-73 is by far the best), and you will find a ton of sources to buy them off the net. NOW foods brand offers every oil I mentioned, and their quality is pretty good, so you can get the clove, thyme, and cinnamon oil from them if you want, it's what I use for the most part.
The only side effect that is guaranteed to take place when using these oils is that the oils are a blood thinner, so you should take a vitamin K supplement when using the oils (you should be on that anyways if you have CF). Other than that, there has only been one other mentioned side effect that couldn't be directly attributed to the oils use (patient was post op lung transplant on tons of medications), and that was headaches. The oils seem to totally decimate microbes in a cystics system, especially Pseudomonas, yeasts, and other yuckies that make our life suck. They are also great for helping to control our inflamatory problems, and i'd venture to say they are a healthier alternative to massive steroidal use, but taking that advice (cause i've never been on any long term steroids) is your own personal risk, I don't want to be known as the guy to recommend someone stop doing their steroids and do oils instead, and then have that person get bad off and they blame me, so that's up to you. Personally the oils have really helped me lung bug wise, and lung feeling wise, and have totally cured my gout problem I had (it was bad), along with other achy/slight arthritic joint issues I had.
Hope my information was useful, and hope you end up feeling as good or better than myself and many cystics have felt after using the oils.
(and thank you jazzy for saying exactly what I was going to say and saving me from replying, I would have just quoted you and said thanks, but the followup post from this person was seeking more information and i'm tired so I thought i'd respond)
Sorry to be a pain and asking but im new to all this and i really want to try it and see if it works and im new to all this herbal stuff! When you say do not use the same nebuliser do you mean dont use the same machine or just the mouthpiece. Also the tablets/capsules ive looked on oliveleaf.co.uk and there is 3 types of capsules.
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!
Sorry to be a pain and asking but im new to all this and i really want to try it and see if it works and im new to all this herbal stuff! When you say do not use the same nebuliser do you mean dont use the same machine or just the mouthpiece. Also the tablets/capsules ive looked on oliveleaf.co.uk and there is 3 types of capsules.
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!
A few years ago, I bought some really good quality essential oils just put on my wrist for relaxation. I never got too crazy with it as I am a transplant patient. I would suggest you checking out this site. http://youngliving.com
They sell to many health care practioners and I hear you can put these oils in your food. Many essential oils that you buy in the health food store are not broken down to be eaten. Young Living esentials are the best. They even make one for Cystic Fibrosis called "RC" as it is stated in one of the books that I bought years ago. The book is called Reference guide for essentials oils by connie and alan higley. My book is several years old RC contains: Eucalyptus, Myrtle, Marjoram, Pine, Cypress, Lavender, Spruce, Peppermint They help all systems related to Respiratory system.
I am going to copy what is says in the book for Cystic Fibrosis
" Alternate with Theives, RC, Lavender and Myrtle. Apply to brain stem (back of neck), temples, chest, bottom of feet and diffuse. RAVEN is added to 4 oz of unscented talcum powder and 2 oz. of baking Soda. Mix this well and apply under the arms, on the feet, or on other areas of the body.
There is more to write. if anyone wants I will continue to write but you can only get these specific oils from Youngliving.com
You can also become a distributor and save a lot of money. I am not interested as I do not do these oils. I crazily did try them for a short period of time about four years ago when my psuedo became bad. the only one that worked was lavendar."
Since I know muscle testing, The RC did not work for me. I guess my lungs are normal and the CF is not really an issue for me. Not sure but first I tested well and shortly after I did not. Muscle testing is wonderful to learn. There are many web sites where they teach you how to self muscle test. IT is good to test for foods and anything you put into your body.
Lavender to soothe the spirit
Risa
They sell to many health care practioners and I hear you can put these oils in your food. Many essential oils that you buy in the health food store are not broken down to be eaten. Young Living esentials are the best. They even make one for Cystic Fibrosis called "RC" as it is stated in one of the books that I bought years ago. The book is called Reference guide for essentials oils by connie and alan higley. My book is several years old RC contains: Eucalyptus, Myrtle, Marjoram, Pine, Cypress, Lavender, Spruce, Peppermint They help all systems related to Respiratory system.
I am going to copy what is says in the book for Cystic Fibrosis
" Alternate with Theives, RC, Lavender and Myrtle. Apply to brain stem (back of neck), temples, chest, bottom of feet and diffuse. RAVEN is added to 4 oz of unscented talcum powder and 2 oz. of baking Soda. Mix this well and apply under the arms, on the feet, or on other areas of the body.
There is more to write. if anyone wants I will continue to write but you can only get these specific oils from Youngliving.com
You can also become a distributor and save a lot of money. I am not interested as I do not do these oils. I crazily did try them for a short period of time about four years ago when my psuedo became bad. the only one that worked was lavendar."
Since I know muscle testing, The RC did not work for me. I guess my lungs are normal and the CF is not really an issue for me. Not sure but first I tested well and shortly after I did not. Muscle testing is wonderful to learn. There are many web sites where they teach you how to self muscle test. IT is good to test for foods and anything you put into your body.
Lavender to soothe the spirit
Risa
A few years ago, I bought some really good quality essential oils just put on my wrist for relaxation. I never got too crazy with it as I am a transplant patient. I would suggest you checking out this site. http://youngliving.com
They sell to many health care practioners and I hear you can put these oils in your food. Many essential oils that you buy in the health food store are not broken down to be eaten. Young Living esentials are the best. They even make one for Cystic Fibrosis called "RC" as it is stated in one of the books that I bought years ago. The book is called Reference guide for essentials oils by connie and alan higley. My book is several years old RC contains: Eucalyptus, Myrtle, Marjoram, Pine, Cypress, Lavender, Spruce, Peppermint They help all systems related to Respiratory system.
I am going to copy what is says in the book for Cystic Fibrosis
" Alternate with Theives, RC, Lavender and Myrtle. Apply to brain stem (back of neck), temples, chest, bottom of feet and diffuse. RAVEN is added to 4 oz of unscented talcum powder and 2 oz. of baking Soda. Mix this well and apply under the arms, on the feet, or on other areas of the body.
There is more to write. if anyone wants I will continue to write but you can only get these specific oils from Youngliving.com
You can also become a distributor and save a lot of money. I am not interested as I do not do these oils. I crazily did try them for a short period of time about four years ago when my psuedo became bad. the only one that worked was lavendar."
Since I know muscle testing, The RC did not work for me. I guess my lungs are normal and the CF is not really an issue for me. Not sure but first I tested well and shortly after I did not. Muscle testing is wonderful to learn. There are many web sites where they teach you how to self muscle test. IT is good to test for foods and anything you put into your body.
Lavender to soothe the spirit
Risa
They sell to many health care practioners and I hear you can put these oils in your food. Many essential oils that you buy in the health food store are not broken down to be eaten. Young Living esentials are the best. They even make one for Cystic Fibrosis called "RC" as it is stated in one of the books that I bought years ago. The book is called Reference guide for essentials oils by connie and alan higley. My book is several years old RC contains: Eucalyptus, Myrtle, Marjoram, Pine, Cypress, Lavender, Spruce, Peppermint They help all systems related to Respiratory system.
I am going to copy what is says in the book for Cystic Fibrosis
" Alternate with Theives, RC, Lavender and Myrtle. Apply to brain stem (back of neck), temples, chest, bottom of feet and diffuse. RAVEN is added to 4 oz of unscented talcum powder and 2 oz. of baking Soda. Mix this well and apply under the arms, on the feet, or on other areas of the body.
There is more to write. if anyone wants I will continue to write but you can only get these specific oils from Youngliving.com
You can also become a distributor and save a lot of money. I am not interested as I do not do these oils. I crazily did try them for a short period of time about four years ago when my psuedo became bad. the only one that worked was lavendar."
Since I know muscle testing, The RC did not work for me. I guess my lungs are normal and the CF is not really an issue for me. Not sure but first I tested well and shortly after I did not. Muscle testing is wonderful to learn. There are many web sites where they teach you how to self muscle test. IT is good to test for foods and anything you put into your body.
Lavender to soothe the spirit
Risa
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Sorry to be a pain and asking but im new to all this and i really want to try it and see if it works and im new to all this herbal stuff! When you say do not use the same nebuliser do you mean dont use the same machine or just the mouthpiece. Also the tablets/capsules ive looked on oliveleaf.co.uk and there is 3 types of capsules.
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!<hr></blockquote>
Well I was refering to just the oil in liquid form, and not the capsules. There are several blends they say helps in different ways. I can only vouch for the oreganol capsules (just the liquid, in capsule form), because that is all I have ever used, and other cystics use that only/primarily that I know of. I haven't heard from anyone who uses the other blends like oregamax and oregacyn, though i'm sure they probably help as well because the company that makes the stuff is really thorough about testing and blending helpful products. Are you planning on just using the stuff in pill form, only using the liquid stuff to neb/inhale/put under tongue, or using both?
Personally I would get the capsules and the liquid oil. Push comes to shove you can save some money and just get the liquid oil and inhale that, and then just add a couple drops under your tongue to absorb sublingualy morning and before bed, and save some money on getting the caps also.
I use both the caps and the liquid, but if I run out of the capsules I don't reorder right away, especially if i'm a little light on cash at the time, because the liquid drops under the tongue work fine also.
As for your question regarding the nebulizer, I meant the apparatus you place your medication in, not the actual nebulizer machine you turn on. You don't want to change/add anything of a different chemical composition to a nebulizer that you use to neb things such as pulmozyme (especially pulmozyme because it's so sensitive), or other antibiotics. Only use your oregano oil neb wise with substances such as albuterol, saline, sterile water, distilled water, and possibly hypertonic saline (though I bet that is a double whammy and not sure if people could tolerate something so doubly irritating, but I dont know). People should have a nebulizer container (what you put the medicine in) for each special medication they take (pulmozyme, antibiotics, etc) so they don't chemically mix and possibly mess with each other. I have 3 active pari pro nebs I use, one for pulmozyme, one for collistin, and one for my albuterol/oregano oil mix. I suppose it wouldn't matter if you thoroughly boil/clean your neb cups after each use, but who does or would want to do that anyways?
If you want to neb the stuff and can't afford or acquire the water soluble stuff, just get the oil and when you start to inhale the stuff in your neb with whatever carrier agent you choose, huff the stuff deep for the first couple minutes, because after that it doesn't seem to neb the oil well. If you inhale with a facial sauna and inhaler attachment, the stuff heats up and doesn't last in it's strongest fume form for all that long either, so it's best to huff away deeply early on in it's administration, and not just take casual sniffs during the whole thing.
They also make the super strength oil and capsules that quite a few cystics prefer. I currently take the super strength capsules once a day because I used to take the normal caps once in morning and once at night, but the super strengths are three times as strong, so now I just take one per day to save money on more caps. I currently neb the water soluble stuff, and occasionally use the facial inhaler to do the regular oregano oil, the cinnamon oil, and the red thyme oil. I have never personally used the superstrength oil.
It's all up to you what you choose to use, and how much to start using and what you will eventually settle into delivery method/doseage type/doseage amount wise. I very rarely use the oil under the tongue anymore just because I'm responding so well to nebbing the water soluble stuff into my lungs twice a day. For every cystic patient that uses the oil in one form in one way, theres another cystic who uses another form in a different way.
You just got to experiment form/doseage/delivery wise untill you find your own personal "sweet spot" that gives you the best results feeling/PFT/culture wise. Of course experimentation will cost you some money, just like anything else worthwhile in life. But these oils have the potential to massively increase a cystics longevity or atleast their quality of life (if how myself and others feel now, and how others have shown no signs of PA in cultures after their use is any indication to that).
Of course like I have told everyone from day one, do your own research also. The internet is a GIANT source of information regarding scientific/herbal research, use it to your advantage. After I heard of oregano oil (and later other antimicrobial essential oils), I did TONS of extensive research in many forms, from books, to massive scientific research databases before I decided to fully use the stuff to help manage my CF. You could quite possibly find other substances (like some others have told me about) that are just as helpful or even more helpful than what I have found, and be able to share it with others and help them as well. I realized a while back that while conventional medicine and medications to treat our problems surely has it's place, it's not the end all answer for our problems, especially antibiotic wise. Doctors tend to universally tend to hand out antibiotics to us and the other humans on earth like they were tic tacs, with no potential downsides to their use, and especially with cystics we go through a never ending nuke/sick/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/develope resistant straint/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/devlope resistant strain treatment cycle, conventional antibiotic use is cystics dont work anymore a ways down the line when a cystic will probably need their assistance the most. It's impossible for your lung bugs to become resistant to the antimicrobial agents in essential oils, due to the way the chemicals in the oils kill bacteria and many forms of viruses.
Also since you are new and might have missed me discuss it previously, do yourself a favor and also look into monolaurin in supplement form. It is also a very strong antimicrobial, with more emphasis on it's antiviral properties. It's one of the first natural "innoculations" we receive from our mothers while we breast feed (another reason why breast feeding is do important!), and is also heavily present in coconut products. Using proper coconut oils in your food (again do your research, i'm tired and can't recall exactly the healthy version vs the bad version) preperation/consumption isn't only a great way to get added monolaurin in your diet, it's also a great way to get added fats/calories/medium chain fatty acids into your system.
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!<hr></blockquote>
Well I was refering to just the oil in liquid form, and not the capsules. There are several blends they say helps in different ways. I can only vouch for the oreganol capsules (just the liquid, in capsule form), because that is all I have ever used, and other cystics use that only/primarily that I know of. I haven't heard from anyone who uses the other blends like oregamax and oregacyn, though i'm sure they probably help as well because the company that makes the stuff is really thorough about testing and blending helpful products. Are you planning on just using the stuff in pill form, only using the liquid stuff to neb/inhale/put under tongue, or using both?
Personally I would get the capsules and the liquid oil. Push comes to shove you can save some money and just get the liquid oil and inhale that, and then just add a couple drops under your tongue to absorb sublingualy morning and before bed, and save some money on getting the caps also.
I use both the caps and the liquid, but if I run out of the capsules I don't reorder right away, especially if i'm a little light on cash at the time, because the liquid drops under the tongue work fine also.
As for your question regarding the nebulizer, I meant the apparatus you place your medication in, not the actual nebulizer machine you turn on. You don't want to change/add anything of a different chemical composition to a nebulizer that you use to neb things such as pulmozyme (especially pulmozyme because it's so sensitive), or other antibiotics. Only use your oregano oil neb wise with substances such as albuterol, saline, sterile water, distilled water, and possibly hypertonic saline (though I bet that is a double whammy and not sure if people could tolerate something so doubly irritating, but I dont know). People should have a nebulizer container (what you put the medicine in) for each special medication they take (pulmozyme, antibiotics, etc) so they don't chemically mix and possibly mess with each other. I have 3 active pari pro nebs I use, one for pulmozyme, one for collistin, and one for my albuterol/oregano oil mix. I suppose it wouldn't matter if you thoroughly boil/clean your neb cups after each use, but who does or would want to do that anyways?
If you want to neb the stuff and can't afford or acquire the water soluble stuff, just get the oil and when you start to inhale the stuff in your neb with whatever carrier agent you choose, huff the stuff deep for the first couple minutes, because after that it doesn't seem to neb the oil well. If you inhale with a facial sauna and inhaler attachment, the stuff heats up and doesn't last in it's strongest fume form for all that long either, so it's best to huff away deeply early on in it's administration, and not just take casual sniffs during the whole thing.
They also make the super strength oil and capsules that quite a few cystics prefer. I currently take the super strength capsules once a day because I used to take the normal caps once in morning and once at night, but the super strengths are three times as strong, so now I just take one per day to save money on more caps. I currently neb the water soluble stuff, and occasionally use the facial inhaler to do the regular oregano oil, the cinnamon oil, and the red thyme oil. I have never personally used the superstrength oil.
It's all up to you what you choose to use, and how much to start using and what you will eventually settle into delivery method/doseage type/doseage amount wise. I very rarely use the oil under the tongue anymore just because I'm responding so well to nebbing the water soluble stuff into my lungs twice a day. For every cystic patient that uses the oil in one form in one way, theres another cystic who uses another form in a different way.
You just got to experiment form/doseage/delivery wise untill you find your own personal "sweet spot" that gives you the best results feeling/PFT/culture wise. Of course experimentation will cost you some money, just like anything else worthwhile in life. But these oils have the potential to massively increase a cystics longevity or atleast their quality of life (if how myself and others feel now, and how others have shown no signs of PA in cultures after their use is any indication to that).
Of course like I have told everyone from day one, do your own research also. The internet is a GIANT source of information regarding scientific/herbal research, use it to your advantage. After I heard of oregano oil (and later other antimicrobial essential oils), I did TONS of extensive research in many forms, from books, to massive scientific research databases before I decided to fully use the stuff to help manage my CF. You could quite possibly find other substances (like some others have told me about) that are just as helpful or even more helpful than what I have found, and be able to share it with others and help them as well. I realized a while back that while conventional medicine and medications to treat our problems surely has it's place, it's not the end all answer for our problems, especially antibiotic wise. Doctors tend to universally tend to hand out antibiotics to us and the other humans on earth like they were tic tacs, with no potential downsides to their use, and especially with cystics we go through a never ending nuke/sick/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/develope resistant straint/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/devlope resistant strain treatment cycle, conventional antibiotic use is cystics dont work anymore a ways down the line when a cystic will probably need their assistance the most. It's impossible for your lung bugs to become resistant to the antimicrobial agents in essential oils, due to the way the chemicals in the oils kill bacteria and many forms of viruses.
Also since you are new and might have missed me discuss it previously, do yourself a favor and also look into monolaurin in supplement form. It is also a very strong antimicrobial, with more emphasis on it's antiviral properties. It's one of the first natural "innoculations" we receive from our mothers while we breast feed (another reason why breast feeding is do important!), and is also heavily present in coconut products. Using proper coconut oils in your food (again do your research, i'm tired and can't recall exactly the healthy version vs the bad version) preperation/consumption isn't only a great way to get added monolaurin in your diet, it's also a great way to get added fats/calories/medium chain fatty acids into your system.
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Sorry to be a pain and asking but im new to all this and i really want to try it and see if it works and im new to all this herbal stuff! When you say do not use the same nebuliser do you mean dont use the same machine or just the mouthpiece. Also the tablets/capsules ive looked on oliveleaf.co.uk and there is 3 types of capsules.
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!<hr></blockquote>
Well I was refering to just the oil in liquid form, and not the capsules. There are several blends they say helps in different ways. I can only vouch for the oreganol capsules (just the liquid, in capsule form), because that is all I have ever used, and other cystics use that only/primarily that I know of. I haven't heard from anyone who uses the other blends like oregamax and oregacyn, though i'm sure they probably help as well because the company that makes the stuff is really thorough about testing and blending helpful products. Are you planning on just using the stuff in pill form, only using the liquid stuff to neb/inhale/put under tongue, or using both?
Personally I would get the capsules and the liquid oil. Push comes to shove you can save some money and just get the liquid oil and inhale that, and then just add a couple drops under your tongue to absorb sublingualy morning and before bed, and save some money on getting the caps also.
I use both the caps and the liquid, but if I run out of the capsules I don't reorder right away, especially if i'm a little light on cash at the time, because the liquid drops under the tongue work fine also.
As for your question regarding the nebulizer, I meant the apparatus you place your medication in, not the actual nebulizer machine you turn on. You don't want to change/add anything of a different chemical composition to a nebulizer that you use to neb things such as pulmozyme (especially pulmozyme because it's so sensitive), or other antibiotics. Only use your oregano oil neb wise with substances such as albuterol, saline, sterile water, distilled water, and possibly hypertonic saline (though I bet that is a double whammy and not sure if people could tolerate something so doubly irritating, but I dont know). People should have a nebulizer container (what you put the medicine in) for each special medication they take (pulmozyme, antibiotics, etc) so they don't chemically mix and possibly mess with each other. I have 3 active pari pro nebs I use, one for pulmozyme, one for collistin, and one for my albuterol/oregano oil mix. I suppose it wouldn't matter if you thoroughly boil/clean your neb cups after each use, but who does or would want to do that anyways?
If you want to neb the stuff and can't afford or acquire the water soluble stuff, just get the oil and when you start to inhale the stuff in your neb with whatever carrier agent you choose, huff the stuff deep for the first couple minutes, because after that it doesn't seem to neb the oil well. If you inhale with a facial sauna and inhaler attachment, the stuff heats up and doesn't last in it's strongest fume form for all that long either, so it's best to huff away deeply early on in it's administration, and not just take casual sniffs during the whole thing.
They also make the super strength oil and capsules that quite a few cystics prefer. I currently take the super strength capsules once a day because I used to take the normal caps once in morning and once at night, but the super strengths are three times as strong, so now I just take one per day to save money on more caps. I currently neb the water soluble stuff, and occasionally use the facial inhaler to do the regular oregano oil, the cinnamon oil, and the red thyme oil. I have never personally used the superstrength oil.
It's all up to you what you choose to use, and how much to start using and what you will eventually settle into delivery method/doseage type/doseage amount wise. I very rarely use the oil under the tongue anymore just because I'm responding so well to nebbing the water soluble stuff into my lungs twice a day. For every cystic patient that uses the oil in one form in one way, theres another cystic who uses another form in a different way.
You just got to experiment form/doseage/delivery wise untill you find your own personal "sweet spot" that gives you the best results feeling/PFT/culture wise. Of course experimentation will cost you some money, just like anything else worthwhile in life. But these oils have the potential to massively increase a cystics longevity or atleast their quality of life (if how myself and others feel now, and how others have shown no signs of PA in cultures after their use is any indication to that).
Of course like I have told everyone from day one, do your own research also. The internet is a GIANT source of information regarding scientific/herbal research, use it to your advantage. After I heard of oregano oil (and later other antimicrobial essential oils), I did TONS of extensive research in many forms, from books, to massive scientific research databases before I decided to fully use the stuff to help manage my CF. You could quite possibly find other substances (like some others have told me about) that are just as helpful or even more helpful than what I have found, and be able to share it with others and help them as well. I realized a while back that while conventional medicine and medications to treat our problems surely has it's place, it's not the end all answer for our problems, especially antibiotic wise. Doctors tend to universally tend to hand out antibiotics to us and the other humans on earth like they were tic tacs, with no potential downsides to their use, and especially with cystics we go through a never ending nuke/sick/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/develope resistant straint/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/devlope resistant strain treatment cycle, conventional antibiotic use is cystics dont work anymore a ways down the line when a cystic will probably need their assistance the most. It's impossible for your lung bugs to become resistant to the antimicrobial agents in essential oils, due to the way the chemicals in the oils kill bacteria and many forms of viruses.
Also since you are new and might have missed me discuss it previously, do yourself a favor and also look into monolaurin in supplement form. It is also a very strong antimicrobial, with more emphasis on it's antiviral properties. It's one of the first natural "innoculations" we receive from our mothers while we breast feed (another reason why breast feeding is do important!), and is also heavily present in coconut products. Using proper coconut oils in your food (again do your research, i'm tired and can't recall exactly the healthy version vs the bad version) preperation/consumption isn't only a great way to get added monolaurin in your diet, it's also a great way to get added fats/calories/medium chain fatty acids into your system.
Oregacyn P73
Oregonal gelcaps
Oregamax
Are these all suitable or is ot just one which can help us cystics?
Thanks for replyin and helpin me i think its great that you take your time to do so with loads of people who want to try these!<hr></blockquote>
Well I was refering to just the oil in liquid form, and not the capsules. There are several blends they say helps in different ways. I can only vouch for the oreganol capsules (just the liquid, in capsule form), because that is all I have ever used, and other cystics use that only/primarily that I know of. I haven't heard from anyone who uses the other blends like oregamax and oregacyn, though i'm sure they probably help as well because the company that makes the stuff is really thorough about testing and blending helpful products. Are you planning on just using the stuff in pill form, only using the liquid stuff to neb/inhale/put under tongue, or using both?
Personally I would get the capsules and the liquid oil. Push comes to shove you can save some money and just get the liquid oil and inhale that, and then just add a couple drops under your tongue to absorb sublingualy morning and before bed, and save some money on getting the caps also.
I use both the caps and the liquid, but if I run out of the capsules I don't reorder right away, especially if i'm a little light on cash at the time, because the liquid drops under the tongue work fine also.
As for your question regarding the nebulizer, I meant the apparatus you place your medication in, not the actual nebulizer machine you turn on. You don't want to change/add anything of a different chemical composition to a nebulizer that you use to neb things such as pulmozyme (especially pulmozyme because it's so sensitive), or other antibiotics. Only use your oregano oil neb wise with substances such as albuterol, saline, sterile water, distilled water, and possibly hypertonic saline (though I bet that is a double whammy and not sure if people could tolerate something so doubly irritating, but I dont know). People should have a nebulizer container (what you put the medicine in) for each special medication they take (pulmozyme, antibiotics, etc) so they don't chemically mix and possibly mess with each other. I have 3 active pari pro nebs I use, one for pulmozyme, one for collistin, and one for my albuterol/oregano oil mix. I suppose it wouldn't matter if you thoroughly boil/clean your neb cups after each use, but who does or would want to do that anyways?
If you want to neb the stuff and can't afford or acquire the water soluble stuff, just get the oil and when you start to inhale the stuff in your neb with whatever carrier agent you choose, huff the stuff deep for the first couple minutes, because after that it doesn't seem to neb the oil well. If you inhale with a facial sauna and inhaler attachment, the stuff heats up and doesn't last in it's strongest fume form for all that long either, so it's best to huff away deeply early on in it's administration, and not just take casual sniffs during the whole thing.
They also make the super strength oil and capsules that quite a few cystics prefer. I currently take the super strength capsules once a day because I used to take the normal caps once in morning and once at night, but the super strengths are three times as strong, so now I just take one per day to save money on more caps. I currently neb the water soluble stuff, and occasionally use the facial inhaler to do the regular oregano oil, the cinnamon oil, and the red thyme oil. I have never personally used the superstrength oil.
It's all up to you what you choose to use, and how much to start using and what you will eventually settle into delivery method/doseage type/doseage amount wise. I very rarely use the oil under the tongue anymore just because I'm responding so well to nebbing the water soluble stuff into my lungs twice a day. For every cystic patient that uses the oil in one form in one way, theres another cystic who uses another form in a different way.
You just got to experiment form/doseage/delivery wise untill you find your own personal "sweet spot" that gives you the best results feeling/PFT/culture wise. Of course experimentation will cost you some money, just like anything else worthwhile in life. But these oils have the potential to massively increase a cystics longevity or atleast their quality of life (if how myself and others feel now, and how others have shown no signs of PA in cultures after their use is any indication to that).
Of course like I have told everyone from day one, do your own research also. The internet is a GIANT source of information regarding scientific/herbal research, use it to your advantage. After I heard of oregano oil (and later other antimicrobial essential oils), I did TONS of extensive research in many forms, from books, to massive scientific research databases before I decided to fully use the stuff to help manage my CF. You could quite possibly find other substances (like some others have told me about) that are just as helpful or even more helpful than what I have found, and be able to share it with others and help them as well. I realized a while back that while conventional medicine and medications to treat our problems surely has it's place, it's not the end all answer for our problems, especially antibiotic wise. Doctors tend to universally tend to hand out antibiotics to us and the other humans on earth like they were tic tacs, with no potential downsides to their use, and especially with cystics we go through a never ending nuke/sick/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/develope resistant straint/nuke/sick/nuke/sick/devlope resistant strain treatment cycle, conventional antibiotic use is cystics dont work anymore a ways down the line when a cystic will probably need their assistance the most. It's impossible for your lung bugs to become resistant to the antimicrobial agents in essential oils, due to the way the chemicals in the oils kill bacteria and many forms of viruses.
Also since you are new and might have missed me discuss it previously, do yourself a favor and also look into monolaurin in supplement form. It is also a very strong antimicrobial, with more emphasis on it's antiviral properties. It's one of the first natural "innoculations" we receive from our mothers while we breast feed (another reason why breast feeding is do important!), and is also heavily present in coconut products. Using proper coconut oils in your food (again do your research, i'm tired and can't recall exactly the healthy version vs the bad version) preperation/consumption isn't only a great way to get added monolaurin in your diet, it's also a great way to get added fats/calories/medium chain fatty acids into your system.
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Risa</b></i><br>Hi Sean
How much Coconut oil do you use each day? I use Garden of Eden organic coconut oil
No wonder why you look so good
Risa<hr></blockquote>
I also bought one of the good organic brand coconut oils. My problem is that I was consuming it like flavored snow, and not centered around a meal, so I was havin some pretty hard core CF booty oil blowouts, and put the coconut oil in the garage for now untill I can find a n easier way to fit it into my regimen properly. But when I was using the coconut oil, I was using 3 tablespoons a day. It's probably best for us to incorporate it into our cooking/food preperation, that way we wont have issues with the booty oil explosions. The write up on the coconut oils said that due to the way the coconut oil is, we won't have a problem with it and won't need to take enzymes. Well I had some pretty bad explosions while using it between meals, so I put 2 and 2 together. But yeah if you incorporate it into your meals (and as long as it's a good brand), it has very strong health benefits.
How much Coconut oil do you use each day? I use Garden of Eden organic coconut oil
No wonder why you look so good
Risa<hr></blockquote>
I also bought one of the good organic brand coconut oils. My problem is that I was consuming it like flavored snow, and not centered around a meal, so I was havin some pretty hard core CF booty oil blowouts, and put the coconut oil in the garage for now untill I can find a n easier way to fit it into my regimen properly. But when I was using the coconut oil, I was using 3 tablespoons a day. It's probably best for us to incorporate it into our cooking/food preperation, that way we wont have issues with the booty oil explosions. The write up on the coconut oils said that due to the way the coconut oil is, we won't have a problem with it and won't need to take enzymes. Well I had some pretty bad explosions while using it between meals, so I put 2 and 2 together. But yeah if you incorporate it into your meals (and as long as it's a good brand), it has very strong health benefits.
<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Risa</b></i><br>Hi Sean
How much Coconut oil do you use each day? I use Garden of Eden organic coconut oil
No wonder why you look so good
Risa<hr></blockquote>
I also bought one of the good organic brand coconut oils. My problem is that I was consuming it like flavored snow, and not centered around a meal, so I was havin some pretty hard core CF booty oil blowouts, and put the coconut oil in the garage for now untill I can find a n easier way to fit it into my regimen properly. But when I was using the coconut oil, I was using 3 tablespoons a day. It's probably best for us to incorporate it into our cooking/food preperation, that way we wont have issues with the booty oil explosions. The write up on the coconut oils said that due to the way the coconut oil is, we won't have a problem with it and won't need to take enzymes. Well I had some pretty bad explosions while using it between meals, so I put 2 and 2 together. But yeah if you incorporate it into your meals (and as long as it's a good brand), it has very strong health benefits.
How much Coconut oil do you use each day? I use Garden of Eden organic coconut oil
No wonder why you look so good
Risa<hr></blockquote>
I also bought one of the good organic brand coconut oils. My problem is that I was consuming it like flavored snow, and not centered around a meal, so I was havin some pretty hard core CF booty oil blowouts, and put the coconut oil in the garage for now untill I can find a n easier way to fit it into my regimen properly. But when I was using the coconut oil, I was using 3 tablespoons a day. It's probably best for us to incorporate it into our cooking/food preperation, that way we wont have issues with the booty oil explosions. The write up on the coconut oils said that due to the way the coconut oil is, we won't have a problem with it and won't need to take enzymes. Well I had some pretty bad explosions while using it between meals, so I put 2 and 2 together. But yeah if you incorporate it into your meals (and as long as it's a good brand), it has very strong health benefits.