Pseudomonas Question

Stormywen

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My son had his trachea scoped during a surgery and they noticed white secretions in the trachea. They did a culture and it grew pseudomonas bacteria. I wasn't told that the culture grew anything until a month later at our surgery follow up appointment.

The week following surgery he was coughing, choking and gagging then the second week he developed a chest cold. He was given 10 days of Cefzil antibiotics and put on his nebulizer every 4 hours.

My question is: Would the cefzil kill the pseudomonas bacteria? He still has a lingering cough but is definately better than he was. Reading the posts it seems like pseudomonas is harder to kill.

My son does NOT have a diagnosis of CF at this time. Would pseudomonas in a non CF patient be no big deal?

Wendy
 

Stormywen

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My son had his trachea scoped during a surgery and they noticed white secretions in the trachea. They did a culture and it grew pseudomonas bacteria. I wasn't told that the culture grew anything until a month later at our surgery follow up appointment.

The week following surgery he was coughing, choking and gagging then the second week he developed a chest cold. He was given 10 days of Cefzil antibiotics and put on his nebulizer every 4 hours.

My question is: Would the cefzil kill the pseudomonas bacteria? He still has a lingering cough but is definately better than he was. Reading the posts it seems like pseudomonas is harder to kill.

My son does NOT have a diagnosis of CF at this time. Would pseudomonas in a non CF patient be no big deal?

Wendy
 

Stormywen

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My son had his trachea scoped during a surgery and they noticed white secretions in the trachea. They did a culture and it grew pseudomonas bacteria. I wasn't told that the culture grew anything until a month later at our surgery follow up appointment.
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<br />The week following surgery he was coughing, choking and gagging then the second week he developed a chest cold. He was given 10 days of Cefzil antibiotics and put on his nebulizer every 4 hours.
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<br />My question is: Would the cefzil kill the pseudomonas bacteria? He still has a lingering cough but is definately better than he was. Reading the posts it seems like pseudomonas is harder to kill.
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<br />My son does NOT have a diagnosis of CF at this time. Would pseudomonas in a non CF patient be no big deal?
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<br />Wendy
 

Mammahuff

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Whenever Austin gets pseudomonas he is usually on an antibiotic such as cipro and also on a nebulized me Tobi. The abx is usually for at least 2 weeks to 21 days. and the tobi is for 28 days.

I'm not sure how they would treat a non cf person.
 

Mammahuff

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Whenever Austin gets pseudomonas he is usually on an antibiotic such as cipro and also on a nebulized me Tobi. The abx is usually for at least 2 weeks to 21 days. and the tobi is for 28 days.

I'm not sure how they would treat a non cf person.
 

Mammahuff

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Whenever Austin gets pseudomonas he is usually on an antibiotic such as cipro and also on a nebulized me Tobi. The abx is usually for at least 2 weeks to 21 days. and the tobi is for 28 days.
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<br />I'm not sure how they would treat a non cf person.
 

Ratatosk

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When a culture is taken, reports usually come back indicating what cf bugs are growing and what antibiotics they are sensitive to, resistent to.... So they can come up with a treatment plan. It very well could be that the pseudo is sensitive to that antibiotic, but usually protocol calls for tobi and cipro.

As for pseudo in a non cf patient... Usually non cf patients don't GET pseudo unless they have underlying health issues -- immune compromised or undiagnosed CF. I've heard that some people have ended up getting diagnosed BECAUSE of the bugs they grow.

You mentioned doing the nebulizer 4 times a day. Have they shown you how to do Chest Physiotherapy, as well. The nebs will open up the airways, but the CPT will help get that crud moving up and out.
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
When a culture is taken, reports usually come back indicating what cf bugs are growing and what antibiotics they are sensitive to, resistent to.... So they can come up with a treatment plan. It very well could be that the pseudo is sensitive to that antibiotic, but usually protocol calls for tobi and cipro.

As for pseudo in a non cf patient... Usually non cf patients don't GET pseudo unless they have underlying health issues -- immune compromised or undiagnosed CF. I've heard that some people have ended up getting diagnosed BECAUSE of the bugs they grow.

You mentioned doing the nebulizer 4 times a day. Have they shown you how to do Chest Physiotherapy, as well. The nebs will open up the airways, but the CPT will help get that crud moving up and out.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
When a culture is taken, reports usually come back indicating what cf bugs are growing and what antibiotics they are sensitive to, resistent to.... So they can come up with a treatment plan. It very well could be that the pseudo is sensitive to that antibiotic, but usually protocol calls for tobi and cipro.
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<br />As for pseudo in a non cf patient... Usually non cf patients don't GET pseudo unless they have underlying health issues -- immune compromised or undiagnosed CF. I've heard that some people have ended up getting diagnosed BECAUSE of the bugs they grow.
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<br />You mentioned doing the nebulizer 4 times a day. Have they shown you how to do Chest Physiotherapy, as well. The nebs will open up the airways, but the CPT will help get that crud moving up and out.
 

Stormywen

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We have never been shown how to do chest physiotherapy at home nor have they done it with him at the doctor's office. He does have a very weak immune system, we had him tested in spring. I will be discussing CF testing with his pediatrician tomorrow. He had a negative sweat test done as an infant after doctor's suspected he had CF.

Wendy
 

Stormywen

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We have never been shown how to do chest physiotherapy at home nor have they done it with him at the doctor's office. He does have a very weak immune system, we had him tested in spring. I will be discussing CF testing with his pediatrician tomorrow. He had a negative sweat test done as an infant after doctor's suspected he had CF.

Wendy
 

Stormywen

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We have never been shown how to do chest physiotherapy at home nor have they done it with him at the doctor's office. He does have a very weak immune system, we had him tested in spring. I will be discussing CF testing with his pediatrician tomorrow. He had a negative sweat test done as an infant after doctor's suspected he had CF.
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<br />Wendy
 
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Mommafirst

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I can't completely answer your question, but I can tell you that my daughter has never been on just 10 days of any antibiotic. Bugs like pseudomonas are very virilant, and not doing a long enough course of abx can just let them get stronger and more drug resistent. We typically do 21 days of most abx. And with pseudo, I believe its usually a double hit with two different meds.
 
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Mommafirst

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I can't completely answer your question, but I can tell you that my daughter has never been on just 10 days of any antibiotic. Bugs like pseudomonas are very virilant, and not doing a long enough course of abx can just let them get stronger and more drug resistent. We typically do 21 days of most abx. And with pseudo, I believe its usually a double hit with two different meds.
 
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Mommafirst

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I can't completely answer your question, but I can tell you that my daughter has never been on just 10 days of any antibiotic. Bugs like pseudomonas are very virilant, and not doing a long enough course of abx can just let them get stronger and more drug resistent. We typically do 21 days of most abx. And with pseudo, I believe its usually a double hit with two different meds.
 

Ratatosk

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DS is on tobi every other month twice a day, for 28 days. If he develops an upper respiratory infection and has been culturing psuedo, then he gets put on Cipro. I THINK the last time that happened when he was 4, the cipro was for 20 days....

Also, DS passed his sweat test as a baby; however, genetic blood testing indicated he had cf. Today he sweats out a lot of salt, so I imagine his sweat test numbers would be much higher.
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
DS is on tobi every other month twice a day, for 28 days. If he develops an upper respiratory infection and has been culturing psuedo, then he gets put on Cipro. I THINK the last time that happened when he was 4, the cipro was for 20 days....

Also, DS passed his sweat test as a baby; however, genetic blood testing indicated he had cf. Today he sweats out a lot of salt, so I imagine his sweat test numbers would be much higher.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
DS is on tobi every other month twice a day, for 28 days. If he develops an upper respiratory infection and has been culturing psuedo, then he gets put on Cipro. I THINK the last time that happened when he was 4, the cipro was for 20 days....
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<br />Also, DS passed his sweat test as a baby; however, genetic blood testing indicated he had cf. Today he sweats out a lot of salt, so I imagine his sweat test numbers would be much higher.
 

crickit715

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from my understanding pseudomonas in a non cfer is not a big deal.....we actually probobly get it all of the time (because it is everywhere) and dont even know it. we can expell it by coughing and our cillia in our lungs and airways push it out, whereas the cf'ers cillia is covered with mucus and the psuedomonas attaches to the mucus and becomes an infection.
 

crickit715

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from my understanding pseudomonas in a non cfer is not a big deal.....we actually probobly get it all of the time (because it is everywhere) and dont even know it. we can expell it by coughing and our cillia in our lungs and airways push it out, whereas the cf'ers cillia is covered with mucus and the psuedomonas attaches to the mucus and becomes an infection.
 
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