recent weight loss with 1 yr old

momtohazel · Jun 10, 2011

hello, at our last check up. My baby lost 4 oz in the past month. she has never had a n issue gaining weight, despite her lack of interest in solids. her solid consumption has increased but she lost weight? i was taken by surprise. i do think my milk supply is less and that is what we are attributing it to. She has also recently learned to walk and teething like mad. don't know if this plays into the weight loss. so to make up for calories lost, i have been adding dairy products. she doesn't seem to like them (cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese). I made her a milk based formula last night (from Nourishing Traditions cookbook) - she actually enjoyed it very much but was gassy all night and pooped three times this am within 20-30 min which is atypical for her (the first one normal, the other two less formed, softer and maybe even tinged with blood/mucous). would you assume from this that cows milk should be avoided? or give it another go? we are meeting with the nutritionist tuesday but thought i would solicit some advice here too. thanks.

momtohazel · Jun 10, 2011

hello, at our last check up. My baby lost 4 oz in the past month. she has never had a n issue gaining weight, despite her lack of interest in solids. her solid consumption has increased but she lost weight? i was taken by surprise. i do think my milk supply is less and that is what we are attributing it to. She has also recently learned to walk and teething like mad. don't know if this plays into the weight loss. so to make up for calories lost, i have been adding dairy products. she doesn't seem to like them (cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese). I made her a milk based formula last night (from Nourishing Traditions cookbook) - she actually enjoyed it very much but was gassy all night and pooped three times this am within 20-30 min which is atypical for her (the first one normal, the other two less formed, softer and maybe even tinged with blood/mucous). would you assume from this that cows milk should be avoided? or give it another go? we are meeting with the nutritionist tuesday but thought i would solicit some advice here too. thanks.

momtohazel · Jun 10, 2011

hello, at our last check up. My baby lost 4 oz in the past month. she has never had a n issue gaining weight, despite her lack of interest in solids. her solid consumption has increased but she lost weight? i was taken by surprise. i do think my milk supply is less and that is what we are attributing it to. She has also recently learned to walk and teething like mad. don't know if this plays into the weight loss. so to make up for calories lost, i have been adding dairy products. she doesn't seem to like them (cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese). I made her a milk based formula last night (from Nourishing Traditions cookbook) - she actually enjoyed it very much but was gassy all night and pooped three times this am within 20-30 min which is atypical for her (the first one normal, the other two less formed, softer and maybe even tinged with blood/mucous). would you assume from this that cows milk should be avoided? or give it another go? we are meeting with the nutritionist tuesday but thought i would solicit some advice here too. thanks.

NancyLKF · Jun 10, 2011

Hi. I'm kinda new to this to, but it could be that she's more active and/or she just needs an increase in her enzymes. I'd talk to the dr/nutritionist about the possible blood. Once, I thought Maggie might have blood in her poop, but it turns out it was flecks of fat (orange in color). What I've learned over the last few months of our struggles with weight gain and absorption is that there are going to be ups and downs. Maggie was good for about 6 months, a solid poop everyday at 9am. It all suddenly changed one day and for months she had messy, orange poops all day everyday. Since then, it's better - variations of poops but not consistently bad. An increase in enzyme amount and a change to the brand we used helped. It also helped a lot to add metamucil to her diet.

NancyLKF · Jun 10, 2011

Hi. I'm kinda new to this to, but it could be that she's more active and/or she just needs an increase in her enzymes. I'd talk to the dr/nutritionist about the possible blood. Once, I thought Maggie might have blood in her poop, but it turns out it was flecks of fat (orange in color). What I've learned over the last few months of our struggles with weight gain and absorption is that there are going to be ups and downs. Maggie was good for about 6 months, a solid poop everyday at 9am. It all suddenly changed one day and for months she had messy, orange poops all day everyday. Since then, it's better - variations of poops but not consistently bad. An increase in enzyme amount and a change to the brand we used helped. It also helped a lot to add metamucil to her diet.

NancyLKF · Jun 10, 2011

Hi. I'm kinda new to this to, but it could be that she's more active and/or she just needs an increase in her enzymes. I'd talk to the dr/nutritionist about the possible blood. Once, I thought Maggie might have blood in her poop, but it turns out it was flecks of fat (orange in color). What I've learned over the last few months of our struggles with weight gain and absorption is that there are going to be ups and downs. Maggie was good for about 6 months, a solid poop everyday at 9am. It all suddenly changed one day and for months she had messy, orange poops all day everyday. Since then, it's better - variations of poops but not consistently bad. An increase in enzyme amount and a change to the brand we used helped. It also helped a lot to add metamucil to her diet.

CJPsMom · Jun 13, 2011

If you're using formula, you can add sugar to the water. We do for our 6 month old. We put in one teaspoon of sugar with hot water, let it dissolve, then add the rest of the water, then formula. It adds 15 calories a teaspoon. I know it doesn't sound like much, but 4 times a day, is 60 calories more than he was getting before!

And, given that your little one is older, you could do more sugar. We're going to start trying a little more too.

Also, not sure what solids you're feeding, but baby food has very few calories - especially as you go up in stages. If you are using baby food, sweet potatoes & bananas are the highest calorie baby foods I've been able to find.

CJPsMom · Jun 13, 2011

If you're using formula, you can add sugar to the water. We do for our 6 month old. We put in one teaspoon of sugar with hot water, let it dissolve, then add the rest of the water, then formula. It adds 15 calories a teaspoon. I know it doesn't sound like much, but 4 times a day, is 60 calories more than he was getting before!

And, given that your little one is older, you could do more sugar. We're going to start trying a little more too.

Also, not sure what solids you're feeding, but baby food has very few calories - especially as you go up in stages. If you are using baby food, sweet potatoes & bananas are the highest calorie baby foods I've been able to find.

CJPsMom · Jun 13, 2011

If you're using formula, you can add sugar to the water. We do for our 6 month old. We put in one teaspoon of sugar with hot water, let it dissolve, then add the rest of the water, then formula. It adds 15 calories a teaspoon. I know it doesn't sound like much, but 4 times a day, is 60 calories more than he was getting before!
 
 And, given that your little one is older, you could do more sugar. We're going to start trying a little more too.
 
 Also, not sure what solids you're feeding, but baby food has very few calories - especially as you go up in stages. If you are using baby food, sweet potatoes & bananas are the highest calorie baby foods I've been able to find.

Ratatosk · Jun 13, 2011

I was thinking it was probably caused by being more mobile and burning off more calories.

When DS was little, we kept him on formula until he was about 18 months. Used a higher calorie -- more powder to water ratio based on a recipe provided by the dietician. Also added olive oil and butter to his baby food. Greek or whole milk yogurt. His doctor preferred to have him on table food, as baby food is low fat, low salt; however, with some foods, ds would gag as if he had a hairball -- ground beef, toast, dry cereal... I did find some individual soups, canned chicken ala king and chicken and dumplings that he liked. Ground up pasta... I also added cream to his yogurt, formula...

Could be that you've added more fat and therefore he needs more enzymes.

Ratatosk · Jun 13, 2011

I was thinking it was probably caused by being more mobile and burning off more calories.

When DS was little, we kept him on formula until he was about 18 months. Used a higher calorie -- more powder to water ratio based on a recipe provided by the dietician. Also added olive oil and butter to his baby food. Greek or whole milk yogurt. His doctor preferred to have him on table food, as baby food is low fat, low salt; however, with some foods, ds would gag as if he had a hairball -- ground beef, toast, dry cereal... I did find some individual soups, canned chicken ala king and chicken and dumplings that he liked. Ground up pasta... I also added cream to his yogurt, formula...

Could be that you've added more fat and therefore he needs more enzymes.

Ratatosk · Jun 13, 2011

I was thinking it was probably caused by being more mobile and burning off more calories.
 
 When DS was little, we kept him on formula until he was about 18 months. Used a higher calorie -- more powder to water ratio based on a recipe provided by the dietician. Also added olive oil and butter to his baby food. Greek or whole milk yogurt. His doctor preferred to have him on table food, as baby food is low fat, low salt; however, with some foods, ds would gag as if he had a hairball -- ground beef, toast, dry cereal... I did find some individual soups, canned chicken ala king and chicken and dumplings that he liked. Ground up pasta... I also added cream to his yogurt, formula...
 
 
 Could be that you've added more fat and therefore he needs more enzymes.

imported_Momto2 · Jun 27, 2011

Our youngest had trouble with weight gain and vomiting. We kept her on the bottle w/formula made with a variety of milks. 2% cows milk and soy milk seemed to work well for her. She got the cals from the formula powder as well from the milk. We also snuck in olive oil or vegetable oil into a lot of her foods, or butter. She went from 16 lbs and 24 inches long to 28 lbs and 32 inches in one year!

imported_Momto2 · Jun 27, 2011

Our youngest had trouble with weight gain and vomiting. We kept her on the bottle w/formula made with a variety of milks. 2% cows milk and soy milk seemed to work well for her. She got the cals from the formula powder as well from the milk. We also snuck in olive oil or vegetable oil into a lot of her foods, or butter. She went from 16 lbs and 24 inches long to 28 lbs and 32 inches in one year!

imported_Momto2 · Jun 27, 2011

Our youngest had trouble with weight gain and vomiting. We kept her on the bottle w/formula made with a variety of milks. 2% cows milk and soy milk seemed to work well for her. She got the cals from the formula powder as well from the milk. We also snuck in olive oil or vegetable oil into a lot of her foods, or butter. She went from 16 lbs and 24 inches long to 28 lbs and 32 inches in one year!

Keepercjr · Jul 2, 2011

I know this is older but I have been on vacation for the last 3 weeks...

First, don't stop nursing her!! In fact, offer her as much as you can. At barely 1 many babies are still nursing for most of their calories. Food is still for learning and playing at this point. Sure you can use it to add a few extra calories through the day but nursing will still be her #1 source. You can still increase your supply as long as you keep nursing - and nursing often. She is distracted and burning up calories by being more mobile. You will need to work at getting her to nurse more but it is doable. At 1 and even into age 2 my kids were still nursing for a lot of their nutrition. I'd say it was 90% at age 1 and 50% at age 2.

IMO she doesn't need dairy at all - she is getting all the "dairy" she needs from you. It is a myth that our kids need dairy. What about avocado? or beans? or whole grain (or multi grain) pasta w/ olive oil? or finely chopped meat? your intuition is telling you something about cows milk and that she doesn't tolerate it. My son didn't tolerate milk till he was much older - maybe 3 or 4. It is a problem with the cows milk protein. My daughter doesn't seem bothered by milk but she doesn't get much. Just some cheese on occasion or a few sips in cereal. She is still nursing and she is tiny (no cf) - barely 25 lbs at almost age 3 but she is healthy and tiny is who she is.

You can do it!

Keepercjr · Jul 2, 2011

I know this is older but I have been on vacation for the last 3 weeks...

First, don't stop nursing her!! In fact, offer her as much as you can. At barely 1 many babies are still nursing for most of their calories. Food is still for learning and playing at this point. Sure you can use it to add a few extra calories through the day but nursing will still be her #1 source. You can still increase your supply as long as you keep nursing - and nursing often. She is distracted and burning up calories by being more mobile. You will need to work at getting her to nurse more but it is doable. At 1 and even into age 2 my kids were still nursing for a lot of their nutrition. I'd say it was 90% at age 1 and 50% at age 2.

IMO she doesn't need dairy at all - she is getting all the "dairy" she needs from you. It is a myth that our kids need dairy. What about avocado? or beans? or whole grain (or multi grain) pasta w/ olive oil? or finely chopped meat? your intuition is telling you something about cows milk and that she doesn't tolerate it. My son didn't tolerate milk till he was much older - maybe 3 or 4. It is a problem with the cows milk protein. My daughter doesn't seem bothered by milk but she doesn't get much. Just some cheese on occasion or a few sips in cereal. She is still nursing and she is tiny (no cf) - barely 25 lbs at almost age 3 but she is healthy and tiny is who she is.

You can do it!

Keepercjr · Jul 2, 2011

I know this is older but I have been on vacation for the last 3 weeks...
 
 First, don't stop nursing her!! In fact, offer her as much as you can. At barely 1 many babies are still nursing for most of their calories. Food is still for learning and playing at this point. Sure you can use it to add a few extra calories through the day but nursing will still be her #1 source. You can still increase your supply as long as you keep nursing - and nursing often. She is distracted and burning up calories by being more mobile. You will need to work at getting her to nurse more but it is doable. At 1 and even into age 2 my kids were still nursing for a lot of their nutrition. I'd say it was 90% at age 1 and 50% at age 2.
 
 IMO she doesn't need dairy at all - she is getting all the "dairy" she needs from you. It is a myth that our kids need dairy. What about avocado? or beans? or whole grain (or multi grain) pasta w/ olive oil? or finely chopped meat? your intuition is telling you something about cows milk and that she doesn't tolerate it. My son didn't tolerate milk till he was much older - maybe 3 or 4. It is a problem with the cows milk protein. My daughter doesn't seem bothered by milk but she doesn't get much. Just some cheese on occasion or a few sips in cereal. She is still nursing and she is tiny (no cf) - barely 25 lbs at almost age 3 but she is healthy and tiny is who she is.
 
 You can do it!

momtohazel · Jul 5, 2011

recent weight loss with 1 yr old - update after 3 weeks of gi issues

thanks everyone for your responses...here is an update if anyone has anything to add...the initial weight loss was most likely a combo of increase activity and decrease milk supply (IMO)...however, shortly after that doc visit she began having diarrhea for 7-10 days. we started prevacid which may have helped or may have been the timing with the diarrhea running its course. after a week on prevacid, she began having increase frequency in bowel movements...up to 10x/day. I stopped the prevacid. the doc suggested either c-diff (waiting for results, previous stool sample negative for bacteria, etc) or "bacterial overgrowth" which incidentally is a side effect of prevacid and may make one more susceptible to c-diff. Despite, this well known fact, the doc is now recommending treating the suspected bacterial overgrowth with antibiotics, resuming the prevacid and adding elemental zinc. They also drew blood to test for milk protein and gluten allergy which is funny (not really) because i've chosen (for the time being to eliminate both from her diet, and quite honestly she has had little to none of either) so i can say with certainty that these things are not related to her GI distress. I did, however, agree to the blood draw for CBC panel because her her most recent sample revealed digested blood. these recommendations are coming from my CF doc via a CF GI "guru" supposedly the best in the country. so why do i feel so un-trusting? maybe cause i think their "plan" has traded one problem for a more serious one. my once active little 1 yr old is pooping every 30 min-1 hr, is pale and lethargic...this is been going on for three weeks! and she is a little trooper, she has at least maintained her weight despite these GI issues. i just wish they could come up with a better treatment? they are pushing the calories - which i am more than happy to feed her - no one is more interested in fattening up my little bean - but their suggestions seem unhealthy (i.e. formulas that are 50% high fructose corn syrup solids? why do we want to stress an already impaired pancreas). BTW - have these docs read about the connections between bacterial overgrowth and high carbohydrate/sugar diets? sorry about the long, venting post. just frustrated and worried about my little baby who for the first time in a year has fallen off the growth chart for her weight. and to the last reply, i do continue to nurse at least 4-6x/day but supply is way down. i don't even pump anymore because i can only get an oz. and my little one just switches back and forth working those boobs to get all she can. we are both trying and i will not give up but i think she needs more. i have tried the supplements to increase supply including fenugreek herbal blends and now nettles, increased my water intake and let her nurse often and forever. thanks again to everyone. i hope some people read this and have some thoughts

momtohazel · Jul 5, 2011

recent weight loss with 1 yr old - update after 3 weeks of gi issues

thanks everyone for your responses...here is an update if anyone has anything to add...the initial weight loss was most likely a combo of increase activity and decrease milk supply (IMO)...however, shortly after that doc visit she began having diarrhea for 7-10 days. we started prevacid which may have helped or may have been the timing with the diarrhea running its course. after a week on prevacid, she began having increase frequency in bowel movements...up to 10x/day. I stopped the prevacid. the doc suggested either c-diff (waiting for results, previous stool sample negative for bacteria, etc) or "bacterial overgrowth" which incidentally is a side effect of prevacid and may make one more susceptible to c-diff. Despite, this well known fact, the doc is now recommending treating the suspected bacterial overgrowth with antibiotics, resuming the prevacid and adding elemental zinc. They also drew blood to test for milk protein and gluten allergy which is funny (not really) because i've chosen (for the time being to eliminate both from her diet, and quite honestly she has had little to none of either) so i can say with certainty that these things are not related to her GI distress. I did, however, agree to the blood draw for CBC panel because her her most recent sample revealed digested blood. these recommendations are coming from my CF doc via a CF GI "guru" supposedly the best in the country. so why do i feel so un-trusting? maybe cause i think their "plan" has traded one problem for a more serious one. my once active little 1 yr old is pooping every 30 min-1 hr, is pale and lethargic...this is been going on for three weeks! and she is a little trooper, she has at least maintained her weight despite these GI issues. i just wish they could come up with a better treatment? they are pushing the calories - which i am more than happy to feed her - no one is more interested in fattening up my little bean - but their suggestions seem unhealthy (i.e. formulas that are 50% high fructose corn syrup solids? why do we want to stress an already impaired pancreas). BTW - have these docs read about the connections between bacterial overgrowth and high carbohydrate/sugar diets? sorry about the long, venting post. just frustrated and worried about my little baby who for the first time in a year has fallen off the growth chart for her weight. and to the last reply, i do continue to nurse at least 4-6x/day but supply is way down. i don't even pump anymore because i can only get an oz. and my little one just switches back and forth working those boobs to get all she can. we are both trying and i will not give up but i think she needs more. i have tried the supplements to increase supply including fenugreek herbal blends and now nettles, increased my water intake and let her nurse often and forever. thanks again to everyone. i hope some people read this and have some thoughts

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