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just1more

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Ginger, I have to both agree & disagree.

I agree, there is a difference between Mel's decision and the one made here; but ultimately the result is the same. I'm not going to get into a fight here about why it was done, I was sleeping in a tent w/o electricity much less Internet when it occurred.

The current conflict was re-raised by people that don't post here, about something that the majority of the membership here has moved past or never knew about.

I don't know of ANY site, CF or otherwise, where a thread openly attacking the site, it's premise, it's ownership and it's purpose would be allowed. Thus if the members of cf2 (and I have been one since last summer) feel the discussion is worthwhile and beneficial, then that is the logical place for it to occur.

I go to both sites, and will continue as long as I am welcome; but I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.
 
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just1more

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Ginger, I have to both agree & disagree.

I agree, there is a difference between Mel's decision and the one made here; but ultimately the result is the same. I'm not going to get into a fight here about why it was done, I was sleeping in a tent w/o electricity much less Internet when it occurred.

The current conflict was re-raised by people that don't post here, about something that the majority of the membership here has moved past or never knew about.

I don't know of ANY site, CF or otherwise, where a thread openly attacking the site, it's premise, it's ownership and it's purpose would be allowed. Thus if the members of cf2 (and I have been one since last summer) feel the discussion is worthwhile and beneficial, then that is the logical place for it to occur.

I go to both sites, and will continue as long as I am welcome; but I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.
 
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just1more

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Ginger, I have to both agree & disagree.

I agree, there is a difference between Mel's decision and the one made here; but ultimately the result is the same. I'm not going to get into a fight here about why it was done, I was sleeping in a tent w/o electricity much less Internet when it occurred.

The current conflict was re-raised by people that don't post here, about something that the majority of the membership here has moved past or never knew about.

I don't know of ANY site, CF or otherwise, where a thread openly attacking the site, it's premise, it's ownership and it's purpose would be allowed. Thus if the members of cf2 (and I have been one since last summer) feel the discussion is worthwhile and beneficial, then that is the logical place for it to occur.

I go to both sites, and will continue as long as I am welcome; but I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.
 
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just1more

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Ginger, I have to both agree & disagree.

I agree, there is a difference between Mel's decision and the one made here; but ultimately the result is the same. I'm not going to get into a fight here about why it was done, I was sleeping in a tent w/o electricity much less Internet when it occurred.

The current conflict was re-raised by people that don't post here, about something that the majority of the membership here has moved past or never knew about.

I don't know of ANY site, CF or otherwise, where a thread openly attacking the site, it's premise, it's ownership and it's purpose would be allowed. Thus if the members of cf2 (and I have been one since last summer) feel the discussion is worthwhile and beneficial, then that is the logical place for it to occur.

I go to both sites, and will continue as long as I am welcome; but I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.
 
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just1more

New member
Ginger, I have to both agree & disagree.
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<br />I agree, there is a difference between Mel's decision and the one made here; but ultimately the result is the same. I'm not going to get into a fight here about why it was done, I was sleeping in a tent w/o electricity much less Internet when it occurred.
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<br />The current conflict was re-raised by people that don't post here, about something that the majority of the membership here has moved past or never knew about.
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<br />I don't know of ANY site, CF or otherwise, where a thread openly attacking the site, it's premise, it's ownership and it's purpose would be allowed. Thus if the members of cf2 (and I have been one since last summer) feel the discussion is worthwhile and beneficial, then that is the logical place for it to occur.
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<br />I go to both sites, and will continue as long as I am welcome; but I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.
 
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saveferris2009

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>

I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote></div>


What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?

Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.

As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.

I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.
 
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saveferris2009

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>

I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote></div>


What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?

Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.

As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.

I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.
 
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saveferris2009

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>

I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote></div>


What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?

Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.

As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.

I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.
 
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saveferris2009

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>

I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote>


What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?

Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.

As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.

I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.
 
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saveferris2009

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>
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<br />I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote>
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<br />What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?
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<br />Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.
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<br />As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.
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<br />I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.
 
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65rosessamurai

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>saveferris2009</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>



I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote></div>





What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?



Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.



As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.



I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.</end quote></div>

I'd just like to comment that there is a difference between "insults" and "constructive criticsm".

"Constructive Criticsm" would be another word for "Enquette" or "Questionaire" at establishments that want (or would get) feedback from their customers.

I'm sure that just1more didn't distinguish the difference between "insults" in one's own establishment as compared to "constructive Criticsm" or "Feedback" in one's own establishment.

Saveferris2009's comment would be referring to "constructive criticsm" and "feedback".
 
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65rosessamurai

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>saveferris2009</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>



I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote></div>





What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?



Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.



As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.



I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.</end quote></div>

I'd just like to comment that there is a difference between "insults" and "constructive criticsm".

"Constructive Criticsm" would be another word for "Enquette" or "Questionaire" at establishments that want (or would get) feedback from their customers.

I'm sure that just1more didn't distinguish the difference between "insults" in one's own establishment as compared to "constructive Criticsm" or "Feedback" in one's own establishment.

Saveferris2009's comment would be referring to "constructive criticsm" and "feedback".
 
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65rosessamurai

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>saveferris2009</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>



I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote></div>





What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?



Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.



As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.



I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.</end quote></div>

I'd just like to comment that there is a difference between "insults" and "constructive criticsm".

"Constructive Criticsm" would be another word for "Enquette" or "Questionaire" at establishments that want (or would get) feedback from their customers.

I'm sure that just1more didn't distinguish the difference between "insults" in one's own establishment as compared to "constructive Criticsm" or "Feedback" in one's own establishment.

Saveferris2009's comment would be referring to "constructive criticsm" and "feedback".
 
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65rosessamurai

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>saveferris2009</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>



I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote>





What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?



Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.



As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.



I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.</end quote>

I'd just like to comment that there is a difference between "insults" and "constructive criticsm".

"Constructive Criticsm" would be another word for "Enquette" or "Questionaire" at establishments that want (or would get) feedback from their customers.

I'm sure that just1more didn't distinguish the difference between "insults" in one's own establishment as compared to "constructive Criticsm" or "Feedback" in one's own establishment.

Saveferris2009's comment would be referring to "constructive criticsm" and "feedback".
 
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65rosessamurai

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>saveferris2009</b></i>
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<br /><div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>just1more</b></i>
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<br />I can't think of an instance in real-life where a business owner would tolerate personal insults in their own business so I can't defend the opinion that the thread as it currently stands belongs here.</end quote>
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<br />What?! I know plenty of websites that allow users to give feedback about products - good or bad. Web 2.0 is about transparency. You've really never seen websites that allow customers to rate their products or services?
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />Many businesses actually like hearing when customers aren't happy because this gives them an opportunity to fix the situation. Because as we all know - unhappy customers do find many ways to vent their frustration, and sometimes businesses don't even hear about it.
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<br />
<br />As you know, unhappy customers spread news like wildfire - much faster than news from happy customers.
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<br />I don't make up those facts - that's just how business works in 2009.</end quote>
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<br />I'd just like to comment that there is a difference between "insults" and "constructive criticsm".
<br />
<br />"Constructive Criticsm" would be another word for "Enquette" or "Questionaire" at establishments that want (or would get) feedback from their customers.
<br />
<br />I'm sure that just1more didn't distinguish the difference between "insults" in one's own establishment as compared to "constructive Criticsm" or "Feedback" in one's own establishment.
<br />
<br />Saveferris2009's comment would be referring to "constructive criticsm" and "feedback".
 
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Brad

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Well Put Tom , I agree wit You 100%.


Save ferris, this is a Help Site not a Pay Site.
I have seen the site's like You are referring to and Most of them
are Selling a Product of some kind.


Have a Nice Day all.
 
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Brad

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Well Put Tom , I agree wit You 100%.


Save ferris, this is a Help Site not a Pay Site.
I have seen the site's like You are referring to and Most of them
are Selling a Product of some kind.


Have a Nice Day all.
 
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Brad

New member
Well Put Tom , I agree wit You 100%.


Save ferris, this is a Help Site not a Pay Site.
I have seen the site's like You are referring to and Most of them
are Selling a Product of some kind.


Have a Nice Day all.
 
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Brad

New member
Well Put Tom , I agree wit You 100%.


Save ferris, this is a Help Site not a Pay Site.
I have seen the site's like You are referring to and Most of them
are Selling a Product of some kind.


Have a Nice Day all.
 
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Brad

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Well Put Tom , I agree wit You 100%.
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<br /> Save ferris, this is a Help Site not a Pay Site.
<br /> I have seen the site's like You are referring to and Most of them
<br /> are Selling a Product of some kind.
<br />
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<br /> Have a Nice Day all.
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