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Mockingbird

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Why are you smoking, though? Is it that important for you to have a cigarette? It doesn't matter how much you do for your daughter, or how much you care for and love her, you're still smoking, and that's still going to affect your daughter, if not physically then emotionally. And if your child may know smoking is such a bad habit, but she also knows you smoke... It doesn't work. You can't have both. Give up one or the other, for your daughter's sake.
 
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Emily65Roses

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Oh by the by... to the smoking mom, I have to say I'm pleasantly surprised to know that you think the smoking ban is a good idea. I imagine a lot of it has to do with your CF child, but it's very hard to come across a smoker who thinks the ban is a good idea. <img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0">
 
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thefrogprincess

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To the person who said Cf parents who smoke should have the kid go stay with someone else:

WHAT?!?! You obviously don't have kids and have no idea how difficult that would be. And besides that many people don't even have that option, or in my case I never would have agreed to that, my family is nuts.

Second all kids CF or not are going to be exposed to unpleasant things no matter what: smoking, drugs, you name it. What is the point of sheltering you kids? You need to educate them that these things are bad because if you don't they are more likely to get involved with them because they don't know better.
 
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anonymous

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I think that giving up your children is going a little overboard, is it not? And to say that a smoking parent is going to affect a child emotionally when they grow up is also a little dramatic.

We all know that smoking is bad for us, so we really don't need the lectures about the evils of it. It is a bad habit to kick as is many other addictions. I have smoked for 33 years, never in the home, never in the car when my son wcf was there and no one has ever been allowed to smoke in my house. Both of my sons 27 and 23, have never smoked, although I can't say 100% that they never tried it in their teen years. I do know that they are certainly not emotionally scarred by me smoking. I am glad and proud to say that I finally kicked the habit almost two years ago now. The craving, I think, never goes away and yes I admit that I would really like to have one at times but I know that it would only take that one to start me smoking once again and that, I am not prepared to do.
 
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luke

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Smoking is a very tough habit to break. For any one that is interested, I am a certified smoking cessation instructor and would be more than happy to speak with anyone who is ready to quit smoking.



luke 29/cf
 
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Emily65Roses

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Smoking affecting anyone emotionally may be a bit dramatic, and quite unlikely, but it's also possible. I am a very odd case, and I'm aware of this. But every single cigarette my Mike has had in our relationship has affected me emotionally. I'm not even going to try to explain it here. And I will agree that, for the most part, for most people, it's overly dramatic. Just wanted to point out that it's possible.

And Luke,
Mike quit smoking several times in the last year and a half we've been together. His problem isn't the physical addiction, but that it's his coping mechanism. He's currently not smoking again, but it tends to come back every few weeks or months. He can't seem to get away from using it as his crutch. I've never smoked, and so I can't really relate to him firsthand on what it's like. All I know about how difficult it is, is what I learned from watching him over the past year and a half and seeing how nearly impossible it seems to be for him to stop. He knows that I'll do anything I can to try and help him, but unfortunately, that's not much. PS-- He's tried the gum and the patch and all that stuff. Since his bigger problem is the mental addiction, those don't do anything for him. If you have any tips to share, or anything of the sort, I'd love to hear them.
 
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anonymous

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Smoke is the residue of your pleasure.
It makes my clothes and hair stink.
Beer is my pleasure..
Therefore, URINE is the residue of my pleasure.
How would you like it if I stood on a chair,
And pissed all over your hair and your clothes?!

Peace, Love, Guitars...
-Dave
 
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luke

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Emily,

You are probably right about the "mental" addiction; it is just not the nicotine it is the behavior. I always used this really bad analogy...I taught my dog how to sit a long time ago, now how am I going to train him to un-sit? The basic fact about nicotine is that it is out of your system in 3-4 days. So if he went that long without them he was no long "physically" addicted. The problem as with most is the habit. What to do to break the habit?

Identify when he smokes: example, most people smoke after meals or while on the phone. Have him write down every time he lights up and what he was doing when he lit up, this is referred to as trigger identification. The next part is behavior modification, now this is where it gets difficult. How are you not going to smoke while on the phone? The ALA recommends you trade a bad habit for a good one. So instead of smoking to keep his hands happy he might doodle or something. In stead of smoking after dinner he could grab a carrot or celery. In some instances the behavior is to hard to change and people have to change their life habits, such as smoking while drinking. If you can't stop smoking when you drink then you just have to quit drinking all together. This is the worst when it involves relationships, who wants to quit smoking when the only time you talk to your coworkers is on the "smoke break"?

Smoking is a very, very hard habit for people to quit. The number one thing I tell people is that all of the pills, gums and patches in the world will make you quit only help. Nothing will make you quit accept for will power.

I know this is very vague but it is pretty hard to illustrate in a paragraph, if you have any specific questions or concerns let me know.

good luck,


Luke 29/cf
 
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Mockingbird

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>thefrogprincess</b></i><br>To the person who said Cf parents who smoke should have the kid go stay with someone else:



WHAT?!?! You obviously don't have kids and have no idea how difficult that would be. And besides that many people don't even have that option, or in my case I never would have agreed to that, my family is nuts.



Second all kids CF or not are going to be exposed to unpleasant things no matter what: smoking, drugs, you name it. What is the point of sheltering you kids? You need to educate them that these things are bad because if you don't they are more likely to get involved with them because they don't know better.<hr></blockquote>

I know that's an impossible thing to do. i said that to make a point. And kids are going to be exposed to smoke, but that doesn't mean they should have to live with it. It's not about sheltering, it's about health.
 
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Mockingbird

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Smoke is the residue of your pleasure.

It makes my clothes and hair stink.

Beer is my pleasure..

Therefore, URINE is the residue of my pleasure.

How would you like it if I stood on a chair,

And pissed all over your hair and your clothes?!



Peace, Love, Guitars...

-Dave<hr></blockquote>

He he, that was really good. =-)

And yeah, everyone else, i know I'm being overly dramatic, but I really really hate smoking. This is something that's kinda personal to me; When i was a kid, I had a friend with CF. She was my age and her parents smoked. They didn't do it around her or anything like that, There a lot like the "good" smoking parents who've replied on this thread. It still affected her, though. I'm not telling people if they smoke their kids are going to be homicidal. For parents who smoke, just think for a bit what is the best for your kid? The last thing a cf kid needs is to be living with a smoker, whether they smoke in private or not.

I'm so sick of hearing somesone say, "I need a ciggarette, or Oh, the addiction is so, so bad. OPEN YOUR EYES. CF isn't an addiction, it's not a bad habit, it's something we were born with, and none of us had a choice. So, anyone who smokes, I really don't want to hear any more excuses. None. If you have a child with cf, and you smoke, then whatever, i'm never going to be able to convince you to stop. But the least you can do is admit that what you're doing is wrong.

jarod
22 w/cf
 
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anonymous

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Dear Jarod,

Guess what? I do not think that i ever said that smoking was right!!! I know that I am wrong for smoking, like I said it is a bad, smelly, filthy habit. I have smoked for a long time ( not an excuse, it is the truth) I have tried a couple of different smoking aides and nothing has worked, I do also know that is has to be will power that makes me stop, but i do know one thing i totally disagree with you on giving my child up to anyone. I love my children very much (more thatn anything in this world) even SMOKING!!! and that is not just my opinion but the truth.
 
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anonymous

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Just another quick thought, I wonder how many people with CF would have smoked if they never had CF... Guess what? no one really knows
 
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ClashPunk82

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Just another quick thought, I wonder how many people with CF would have smoked if they never had CF... Guess what? no one really knows<hr></blockquote>

I wouldn't smoke even if I didn't have CF. I find it disgusting and gross. Having CF isn't the reason I don't like smoke, I don't like it because iit's a nasty habit.
 
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kybert

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its all fine and dandy for parents to say 'i dont smoke around my kid'. fair enough, your kid is safe, but what about the rest of the population who has to deal with you smoking in public? there are people just like your child and like us who will be breathing in your smoke. its a bit silly to imply that we would be off smoking a pack a day if we didnt have cf. if i didnt have cf my eyes would still sting, my hair and clothes would still stink, my nose would still be itchy and runny, id still feel like i was suffocating. im not one to purposely ruin my looks either, and that definately has nothing to do with cf. no point spending money on makeup and skincare just to spend more to undo it and end up looking 10 years older than i should with stained teeth and fingers. i dont think there is such thing as a respectful smoker. i have relatives who class themselves as respectful smokers but they are far from it. they will preach on and on about how people shouldnt smoke around me, but that 20% of the time when they are dying for that ciggie and they cant be bothered moving away, they couldnt give a stuff about how i feel. when the going gets tough, the smokes win hands down. there is not even any point in giving an ultimatum.

dave that it hilarious! perhaps i should fart in everyones face. thats the residue of pleasurable food.
 
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Mockingbird

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>Dear Jarod,



Guess what? I do not think that i ever said that smoking was right!!! I know that I am wrong for smoking, like I said it is a bad, smelly, filthy habit. I have smoked for a long time ( not an excuse, it is the truth) I have tried a couple of different smoking aides and nothing has worked, I do also know that is has to be will power that makes me stop, but i do know one thing i totally disagree with you on giving my child up to anyone. I love my children very much (more thatn anything in this world) even SMOKING!!! and that is not just my opinion but the truth.<hr></blockquote>


That's all i ask. =-)
 
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AngieM

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Here's a suggestion.... maybe give up the cigarette for a can of copenhagen or skoal. You'll get your nicotine fix and the rest of us won't have to smell your smoke.
 
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