Some info on hydrogen peroxide

juliepie

New member
H2O2 is highly irritating to mucous membranes, and for this reason I would not want it or its vapors near my nose or especially my lungs- dilute or not. Even in the lab our dilute 3% H2O2 solution MSDS (materials safety data sheet) tells us to use it in a fume hood.

Our 30% H2O2 MSDS warns that it is "Harmful if inhaled. May cause irritation of the respiratory tract with burning pain in the nose and throat, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and pulmonary edema. Causes chemical burns to the respiratory tract. May cause ulceration of nasal tissue, insomnia, nervous tremors with numb extremities, chemical pneumonia, unconsciousness, and death."

No way would I willingly inhale it or send it through my sinuses, no matter how watered down. You might not have adverse effects right away, but damage will be done in the long term.

Hydrogen peroxide does dissociate into a water molecule and an oxygen anion, yes, but this does not mean it is chemically the same as "a water with an extra oxygen atom". Molecularly they are very different. After all, a single oxygen atom is the difference between dying of carbon monoxide poisoning and feeling light headed because there is a bit too much carbon dioxide in the room.

I'm sorry if this seems on the aggressive side, I mean no offense whatsoever! However, after working with some pretty nasty chemicals and having accidentally inhaled them producing some pretty serious effects, I am overly cautious about what i breathe into my lungs. Definitely discuss this with your doctor and make sure you fully understand what you are doing. Keep us updated!
 

juliepie

New member
H2O2 is highly irritating to mucous membranes, and for this reason I would not want it or its vapors near my nose or especially my lungs- dilute or not. Even in the lab our dilute 3% H2O2 solution MSDS (materials safety data sheet) tells us to use it in a fume hood.

Our 30% H2O2 MSDS warns that it is "Harmful if inhaled. May cause irritation of the respiratory tract with burning pain in the nose and throat, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and pulmonary edema. Causes chemical burns to the respiratory tract. May cause ulceration of nasal tissue, insomnia, nervous tremors with numb extremities, chemical pneumonia, unconsciousness, and death."

No way would I willingly inhale it or send it through my sinuses, no matter how watered down. You might not have adverse effects right away, but damage will be done in the long term.

Hydrogen peroxide does dissociate into a water molecule and an oxygen anion, yes, but this does not mean it is chemically the same as "a water with an extra oxygen atom". Molecularly they are very different. After all, a single oxygen atom is the difference between dying of carbon monoxide poisoning and feeling light headed because there is a bit too much carbon dioxide in the room.

I'm sorry if this seems on the aggressive side, I mean no offense whatsoever! However, after working with some pretty nasty chemicals and having accidentally inhaled them producing some pretty serious effects, I am overly cautious about what i breathe into my lungs. Definitely discuss this with your doctor and make sure you fully understand what you are doing. Keep us updated!
 

juliepie

New member
H2O2 is highly irritating to mucous membranes, and for this reason I would not want it or its vapors near my nose or especially my lungs- dilute or not. Even in the lab our dilute 3% H2O2 solution MSDS (materials safety data sheet) tells us to use it in a fume hood.

Our 30% H2O2 MSDS warns that it is "Harmful if inhaled. May cause irritation of the respiratory tract with burning pain in the nose and throat, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and pulmonary edema. Causes chemical burns to the respiratory tract. May cause ulceration of nasal tissue, insomnia, nervous tremors with numb extremities, chemical pneumonia, unconsciousness, and death."

No way would I willingly inhale it or send it through my sinuses, no matter how watered down. You might not have adverse effects right away, but damage will be done in the long term.

Hydrogen peroxide does dissociate into a water molecule and an oxygen anion, yes, but this does not mean it is chemically the same as "a water with an extra oxygen atom". Molecularly they are very different. After all, a single oxygen atom is the difference between dying of carbon monoxide poisoning and feeling light headed because there is a bit too much carbon dioxide in the room.

I'm sorry if this seems on the aggressive side, I mean no offense whatsoever! However, after working with some pretty nasty chemicals and having accidentally inhaled them producing some pretty serious effects, I am overly cautious about what i breathe into my lungs. Definitely discuss this with your doctor and make sure you fully understand what you are doing. Keep us updated!
 

juliepie

New member
H2O2 is highly irritating to mucous membranes, and for this reason I would not want it or its vapors near my nose or especially my lungs- dilute or not. Even in the lab our dilute 3% H2O2 solution MSDS (materials safety data sheet) tells us to use it in a fume hood.

Our 30% H2O2 MSDS warns that it is "Harmful if inhaled. May cause irritation of the respiratory tract with burning pain in the nose and throat, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and pulmonary edema. Causes chemical burns to the respiratory tract. May cause ulceration of nasal tissue, insomnia, nervous tremors with numb extremities, chemical pneumonia, unconsciousness, and death."

No way would I willingly inhale it or send it through my sinuses, no matter how watered down. You might not have adverse effects right away, but damage will be done in the long term.

Hydrogen peroxide does dissociate into a water molecule and an oxygen anion, yes, but this does not mean it is chemically the same as "a water with an extra oxygen atom". Molecularly they are very different. After all, a single oxygen atom is the difference between dying of carbon monoxide poisoning and feeling light headed because there is a bit too much carbon dioxide in the room.

I'm sorry if this seems on the aggressive side, I mean no offense whatsoever! However, after working with some pretty nasty chemicals and having accidentally inhaled them producing some pretty serious effects, I am overly cautious about what i breathe into my lungs. Definitely discuss this with your doctor and make sure you fully understand what you are doing. Keep us updated!
 

juliepie

New member
H2O2 is highly irritating to mucous membranes, and for this reason I would not want it or its vapors near my nose or especially my lungs- dilute or not. Even in the lab our dilute 3% H2O2 solution MSDS (materials safety data sheet) tells us to use it in a fume hood.
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<br />Our 30% H2O2 MSDS warns that it is "Harmful if inhaled. May cause irritation of the respiratory tract with burning pain in the nose and throat, coughing, wheezing, shortness of breath and pulmonary edema. Causes chemical burns to the respiratory tract. May cause ulceration of nasal tissue, insomnia, nervous tremors with numb extremities, chemical pneumonia, unconsciousness, and death."
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<br />No way would I willingly inhale it or send it through my sinuses, no matter how watered down. You might not have adverse effects right away, but damage will be done in the long term.
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<br />Hydrogen peroxide does dissociate into a water molecule and an oxygen anion, yes, but this does not mean it is chemically the same as "a water with an extra oxygen atom". Molecularly they are very different. After all, a single oxygen atom is the difference between dying of carbon monoxide poisoning and feeling light headed because there is a bit too much carbon dioxide in the room.
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<br />I'm sorry if this seems on the aggressive side, I mean no offense whatsoever! However, after working with some pretty nasty chemicals and having accidentally inhaled them producing some pretty serious effects, I am overly cautious about what i breathe into my lungs. Definitely discuss this with your doctor and make sure you fully understand what you are doing. Keep us updated!
 

Faust

New member
Yeah no offense taken at all. I asked you guys for your opinions and any information you guys might have regarding this stuff. I was more curious about using a watered down food grade hydrogen peroxide for nasal rinses, and not really inhaling. I'm pretty brave, but i'm not that brave to flat out inhale the stuff, unless I had great data saying it was ok.
 

Faust

New member
Yeah no offense taken at all. I asked you guys for your opinions and any information you guys might have regarding this stuff. I was more curious about using a watered down food grade hydrogen peroxide for nasal rinses, and not really inhaling. I'm pretty brave, but i'm not that brave to flat out inhale the stuff, unless I had great data saying it was ok.
 

Faust

New member
Yeah no offense taken at all. I asked you guys for your opinions and any information you guys might have regarding this stuff. I was more curious about using a watered down food grade hydrogen peroxide for nasal rinses, and not really inhaling. I'm pretty brave, but i'm not that brave to flat out inhale the stuff, unless I had great data saying it was ok.
 

Faust

New member
Yeah no offense taken at all. I asked you guys for your opinions and any information you guys might have regarding this stuff. I was more curious about using a watered down food grade hydrogen peroxide for nasal rinses, and not really inhaling. I'm pretty brave, but i'm not that brave to flat out inhale the stuff, unless I had great data saying it was ok.
 

Faust

New member
Yeah no offense taken at all. I asked you guys for your opinions and any information you guys might have regarding this stuff. I was more curious about using a watered down food grade hydrogen peroxide for nasal rinses, and not really inhaling. I'm pretty brave, but i'm not that brave to flat out inhale the stuff, unless I had great data saying it was ok.
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Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
When I was searching out info on sinus rinses (Saline) for DS, I came across a reference to peroxide. Here's the link to that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
">http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
</a>
along with the link to the peroxide rinse reference at the bottom of that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/articles/nasal_irrigation.htm">http://www.onlineallergycenter...s/nasal_irrigation.htm</a>
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
When I was searching out info on sinus rinses (Saline) for DS, I came across a reference to peroxide. Here's the link to that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
">http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
</a>
along with the link to the peroxide rinse reference at the bottom of that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/articles/nasal_irrigation.htm">http://www.onlineallergycenter...s/nasal_irrigation.htm</a>
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
When I was searching out info on sinus rinses (Saline) for DS, I came across a reference to peroxide. Here's the link to that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
">http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
</a>
along with the link to the peroxide rinse reference at the bottom of that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/articles/nasal_irrigation.htm">http://www.onlineallergycenter...s/nasal_irrigation.htm</a>
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
When I was searching out info on sinus rinses (Saline) for DS, I came across a reference to peroxide. Here's the link to that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
">http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
</a>
along with the link to the peroxide rinse reference at the bottom of that page...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/articles/nasal_irrigation.htm">http://www.onlineallergycenter...s/nasal_irrigation.htm</a>
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
When I was searching out info on sinus rinses (Saline) for DS, I came across a reference to peroxide. Here's the link to that page...
<br />
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
">http://www3.nbnet.nb.ca/normap/nasalirrig.htm
</a><br />
<br />along with the link to the peroxide rinse reference at the bottom of that page...
<br />
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.onlineallergycenter.com/articles/nasal_irrigation.htm">http://www.onlineallergycenter...s/nasal_irrigation.htm</a>
 

Bumblebee

New member
I work in a lab doing medical research. I use very dilute H2O2 (38% solution diluted 1000x) as a positive control for cell death. I.e. i use it to kill cells. Believe me, after 6 and 24 hours incubation of cells with this stuff they are well and truely dead. The cells i use are human endothelial cells (those that line blood vessels).
I personally wouldn't touch it as a medical treatment. PLus H2O2 isn't just plain water with an extra oxygen. It's an entirely different chemical to water. I mean sodium azide is "just" sodium with a few nitrogen atoms on it. But that stuff is lethal.
Great for looking into alternative treatments but this is my opinion on it as you asked.
xxxx

edited to add: sorry juliepie, just noticed you made the same point as me about chemicals but with a far better example!
 

Bumblebee

New member
I work in a lab doing medical research. I use very dilute H2O2 (38% solution diluted 1000x) as a positive control for cell death. I.e. i use it to kill cells. Believe me, after 6 and 24 hours incubation of cells with this stuff they are well and truely dead. The cells i use are human endothelial cells (those that line blood vessels).
I personally wouldn't touch it as a medical treatment. PLus H2O2 isn't just plain water with an extra oxygen. It's an entirely different chemical to water. I mean sodium azide is "just" sodium with a few nitrogen atoms on it. But that stuff is lethal.
Great for looking into alternative treatments but this is my opinion on it as you asked.
xxxx

edited to add: sorry juliepie, just noticed you made the same point as me about chemicals but with a far better example!
 

Bumblebee

New member
I work in a lab doing medical research. I use very dilute H2O2 (38% solution diluted 1000x) as a positive control for cell death. I.e. i use it to kill cells. Believe me, after 6 and 24 hours incubation of cells with this stuff they are well and truely dead. The cells i use are human endothelial cells (those that line blood vessels).
I personally wouldn't touch it as a medical treatment. PLus H2O2 isn't just plain water with an extra oxygen. It's an entirely different chemical to water. I mean sodium azide is "just" sodium with a few nitrogen atoms on it. But that stuff is lethal.
Great for looking into alternative treatments but this is my opinion on it as you asked.
xxxx

edited to add: sorry juliepie, just noticed you made the same point as me about chemicals but with a far better example!
 

Bumblebee

New member
I work in a lab doing medical research. I use very dilute H2O2 (38% solution diluted 1000x) as a positive control for cell death. I.e. i use it to kill cells. Believe me, after 6 and 24 hours incubation of cells with this stuff they are well and truely dead. The cells i use are human endothelial cells (those that line blood vessels).
I personally wouldn't touch it as a medical treatment. PLus H2O2 isn't just plain water with an extra oxygen. It's an entirely different chemical to water. I mean sodium azide is "just" sodium with a few nitrogen atoms on it. But that stuff is lethal.
Great for looking into alternative treatments but this is my opinion on it as you asked.
xxxx

edited to add: sorry juliepie, just noticed you made the same point as me about chemicals but with a far better example!
 

Bumblebee

New member
I work in a lab doing medical research. I use very dilute H2O2 (38% solution diluted 1000x) as a positive control for cell death. I.e. i use it to kill cells. Believe me, after 6 and 24 hours incubation of cells with this stuff they are well and truely dead. The cells i use are human endothelial cells (those that line blood vessels).
<br />I personally wouldn't touch it as a medical treatment. PLus H2O2 isn't just plain water with an extra oxygen. It's an entirely different chemical to water. I mean sodium azide is "just" sodium with a few nitrogen atoms on it. But that stuff is lethal.
<br />Great for looking into alternative treatments but this is my opinion on it as you asked.
<br />xxxx
<br />
<br />edited to add: sorry juliepie, just noticed you made the same point as me about chemicals but with a far better example!
 
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