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Something to ponder
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senatorgraham
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To begin with, I noticed that Ender addressed you as Sean. So if this is Sean Davis, I say good to hear from you, and thanks for the thought provoking exercise.
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
senatorgraham
New member
To begin with, I noticed that Ender addressed you as Sean. So if this is Sean Davis, I say good to hear from you, and thanks for the thought provoking exercise.
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
senatorgraham
New member
To begin with, I noticed that Ender addressed you as Sean. So if this is Sean Davis, I say good to hear from you, and thanks for the thought provoking exercise.
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
senatorgraham
New member
To begin with, I noticed that Ender addressed you as Sean. So if this is Sean Davis, I say good to hear from you, and thanks for the thought provoking exercise.
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
senatorgraham
New member
To begin with, I noticed that Ender addressed you as Sean. So if this is Sean Davis, I say good to hear from you, and thanks for the thought provoking exercise.
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
To embark on a topic like this where you wish to discuss "the situation from a purely biological/population perspective" you might more clearly state that specifically at the beginning of the thread so that everyone knows that is the parameter for your discussions and cut down on irrelevant dialogue.
"Here's the thing. We have faulty programming. We are basically supposed to be the ones that die early on, and not spread our genes. Same goes for other diseased people".
So What. It is not how much time on this earth one has, but rather what one does with that time!!!
"Of course we command modern medicine, and have an ability to fight against that end. Is that right? Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time."
Nothing says that the diseased or weak cannot fight back, not only can they but they absolutely should, life is precious gift and worth fighting for.
"While we like ourselves and love our existence, and our friends and family will miss us...Does it really matter if we die from CF?"
No, it doesn't matter. Death is Death. No CFer, myself included, is immune from being killed in a car accident, or any other calamity one can think of. Death is a horrible, tragic occurance and how one gets there is less important than the loss itself (of a loved one). I lost my mother to Breast cancer over a year ago and am still feeling the affects.
"I'd sacrifice right away, as the first one".
I do not think you have to go this far, even for discussion purposes. It offers nothing because it is an empty gesture, and I am not suggesting you sacrifice yourself on the alter of altruism, but rather avoid making statements that do not further discussion, but rather detract from it.
"But we all want to feel we are all special little snowflakes".
We are all "special little snowflakes", because we have cognizance, which allows choice. People chose to engage or not engage in activities. Choice to do good things for family, friends, and strangers, in short do good things in our communities and the world at large.
Perhaps the debate could be framed in terms of value systems (I am not addressing religion but certainly there is significant overlap between the two). People who raise their children to respect others and help others, etc.
In a big picture sense what values do we think helps all peoples move forward. To exist more peacefully and in a manner that helps solve problems rather than create them, etc.
"I'm just saying we should maybe have more humility"
I agree that we (every person on the planet) can all exercise more humility.
And as for beer, yes beer is good (as long as it is not abused)!!!
Sean, I hope you find my comments useful for purposes of discussion, and hope you are not offended in any way!!! And I am happy to see you were not beaten severlly by anyone.
Sincerely,
Steven "Senator" Graham
"My friends are my estate. Forgive me the avarice to hoard them."-Emily Dickinson
33 w/CF, Bi-Lateral Lung Transplant Dec. 2002
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive.</end quote></div>
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive.</end quote></div>
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive.</end quote></div>
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive.</end quote>
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Faust</b></i>Predators constantly eat the weak and diseased all the time that ends up keeping a target population strong and thriving. Are we any different? To be honest, it's too bad we (humans) aren't culled more often, and in much larger quantities. We have almost 7 billion people here now, most of which don't have enough food or water or sustainable shelter to survive.</end quote>
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
I've often wondered about the same thing, especially when I'm watching Animal Planet and defective offspring are either eaten or abandoned by their own. Nice to know I'm not the only one, LOL!
That said, I often wonder if we, as humans, did the same with our disabled and diseased, would it make the species better or worse? I really can't decide. Genetically, yeah, humans would probably be better off. But mentally? I can't decide on that one...that's a toughie for me.
Of course, executing all the blood-sucking, murderous and vile "human beings" would significantly decrease the population, too, and clean up the species in the process. But maybe that's just my vengeful side speaking. I know a lot more diseased people that deserve life than normal people who are just as cruel and disgusting to one another as possible. But that's my 2 cents.
Aryan - thanks for correcting me Faust. English isn't my first language and don't always have the time to spell check.
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
Aryan - thanks for correcting me Faust. English isn't my first language and don't always have the time to spell check.
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
Aryan - thanks for correcting me Faust. English isn't my first language and don't always have the time to spell check.
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
Aryan - thanks for correcting me Faust. English isn't my first language and don't always have the time to spell check.
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
Aryan - thanks for correcting me Faust. English isn't my first language and don't always have the time to spell check.
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).
I'm glad not everyone thinks like you and Lilith. People like Stephen Hawking, Beethoven, Helen Keller, Stevie Wonder, etc would have no chance of developing their works. And if you'd also leave the dyslexic and those with learning disablities behind, the list of talented, creative people who did a lot for mankind would be enormous.
Remember, Homo sapiens didn't rule the world because of sheer physical fitness and strength, but because of BRAINS (and I don't want retarded or autistic ppl to be left to die either! No way, every one of them is precious and unique too).