Stem Cell Research

Nightwriter

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Okay, not going to change any opinions here, nor do I want to...

I am thrilled that human embryonic research is going to resume once again in the U.S. Our top scientists need to use these cells that will ultimately save lives, rather than have them thrown in the garbage which is what happens now. And Bush's political compromise to only use existing lines makes no sense to me - so those past embryonic cells can be used, but subsequent ones that are sourced in the same exact way cannot. Sorry, no difference between them.

How many people could have been saved by research that was thwarted? And saying that if cures weren't found in Europe, then they wouldn't have been found here doesn't equate for me. All discoveries take just one scientist happening upon something, so I want all tools available to our top brains too. I wish Christopher Reeves (a personal hero) were still alive who testified so many times in front of Congress lived to see this new day. Perhaps he would have been one of the people saved. I attach his statement before Congress for any one who is interested.

Whether you are in favor or disagree with the new rules., one thing is certain: Stem Cells retrieved from cord cells are NOT the same as those from embryonic stem cells.

The disadvantage of cord blood cells is that they are in relatively few numbers available in cord blood and they do not grow as well as human embryonic stem cells. This makes working with cord blood harder. Another disadvantage is while an exact genetic copy can be created with human embryonic stem cells, it cannot be done with cord blood unless it is the cord blood of the patient.

Umbilical cord stem cells are not capable of transforming into other type of cells.

And if there were no difference, obviously this debate would have ended a long time ago. At least now it's a moot point.

Each and every one of us on this site can now have renewed hope that a cure may someday be found because the government will no longer stand in the way of science.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
">http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
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Nightwriter

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Okay, not going to change any opinions here, nor do I want to...

I am thrilled that human embryonic research is going to resume once again in the U.S. Our top scientists need to use these cells that will ultimately save lives, rather than have them thrown in the garbage which is what happens now. And Bush's political compromise to only use existing lines makes no sense to me - so those past embryonic cells can be used, but subsequent ones that are sourced in the same exact way cannot. Sorry, no difference between them.

How many people could have been saved by research that was thwarted? And saying that if cures weren't found in Europe, then they wouldn't have been found here doesn't equate for me. All discoveries take just one scientist happening upon something, so I want all tools available to our top brains too. I wish Christopher Reeves (a personal hero) were still alive who testified so many times in front of Congress lived to see this new day. Perhaps he would have been one of the people saved. I attach his statement before Congress for any one who is interested.

Whether you are in favor or disagree with the new rules., one thing is certain: Stem Cells retrieved from cord cells are NOT the same as those from embryonic stem cells.

The disadvantage of cord blood cells is that they are in relatively few numbers available in cord blood and they do not grow as well as human embryonic stem cells. This makes working with cord blood harder. Another disadvantage is while an exact genetic copy can be created with human embryonic stem cells, it cannot be done with cord blood unless it is the cord blood of the patient.

Umbilical cord stem cells are not capable of transforming into other type of cells.

And if there were no difference, obviously this debate would have ended a long time ago. At least now it's a moot point.

Each and every one of us on this site can now have renewed hope that a cure may someday be found because the government will no longer stand in the way of science.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
">http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
">http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
</a>
 

Nightwriter

New member
Okay, not going to change any opinions here, nor do I want to...

I am thrilled that human embryonic research is going to resume once again in the U.S. Our top scientists need to use these cells that will ultimately save lives, rather than have them thrown in the garbage which is what happens now. And Bush's political compromise to only use existing lines makes no sense to me - so those past embryonic cells can be used, but subsequent ones that are sourced in the same exact way cannot. Sorry, no difference between them.

How many people could have been saved by research that was thwarted? And saying that if cures weren't found in Europe, then they wouldn't have been found here doesn't equate for me. All discoveries take just one scientist happening upon something, so I want all tools available to our top brains too. I wish Christopher Reeves (a personal hero) were still alive who testified so many times in front of Congress lived to see this new day. Perhaps he would have been one of the people saved. I attach his statement before Congress for any one who is interested.

Whether you are in favor or disagree with the new rules., one thing is certain: Stem Cells retrieved from cord cells are NOT the same as those from embryonic stem cells.

The disadvantage of cord blood cells is that they are in relatively few numbers available in cord blood and they do not grow as well as human embryonic stem cells. This makes working with cord blood harder. Another disadvantage is while an exact genetic copy can be created with human embryonic stem cells, it cannot be done with cord blood unless it is the cord blood of the patient.

Umbilical cord stem cells are not capable of transforming into other type of cells.

And if there were no difference, obviously this debate would have ended a long time ago. At least now it's a moot point.

Each and every one of us on this site can now have renewed hope that a cure may someday be found because the government will no longer stand in the way of science.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
">http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
">http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
</a>
 

Nightwriter

New member
Okay, not going to change any opinions here, nor do I want to...

I am thrilled that human embryonic research is going to resume once again in the U.S. Our top scientists need to use these cells that will ultimately save lives, rather than have them thrown in the garbage which is what happens now. And Bush's political compromise to only use existing lines makes no sense to me - so those past embryonic cells can be used, but subsequent ones that are sourced in the same exact way cannot. Sorry, no difference between them.

How many people could have been saved by research that was thwarted? And saying that if cures weren't found in Europe, then they wouldn't have been found here doesn't equate for me. All discoveries take just one scientist happening upon something, so I want all tools available to our top brains too. I wish Christopher Reeves (a personal hero) were still alive who testified so many times in front of Congress lived to see this new day. Perhaps he would have been one of the people saved. I attach his statement before Congress for any one who is interested.

Whether you are in favor or disagree with the new rules., one thing is certain: Stem Cells retrieved from cord cells are NOT the same as those from embryonic stem cells.

The disadvantage of cord blood cells is that they are in relatively few numbers available in cord blood and they do not grow as well as human embryonic stem cells. This makes working with cord blood harder. Another disadvantage is while an exact genetic copy can be created with human embryonic stem cells, it cannot be done with cord blood unless it is the cord blood of the patient.

Umbilical cord stem cells are not capable of transforming into other type of cells.

And if there were no difference, obviously this debate would have ended a long time ago. At least now it's a moot point.

Each and every one of us on this site can now have renewed hope that a cure may someday be found because the government will no longer stand in the way of science.

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
">http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
</a><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
">http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
</a>
 

Nightwriter

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Okay, not going to change any opinions here, nor do I want to...
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<br />I am thrilled that human embryonic research is going to resume once again in the U.S. Our top scientists need to use these cells that will ultimately save lives, rather than have them thrown in the garbage which is what happens now. And Bush's political compromise to only use existing lines makes no sense to me - so those past embryonic cells can be used, but subsequent ones that are sourced in the same exact way cannot. Sorry, no difference between them.
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<br />How many people could have been saved by research that was thwarted? And saying that if cures weren't found in Europe, then they wouldn't have been found here doesn't equate for me. All discoveries take just one scientist happening upon something, so I want all tools available to our top brains too. I wish Christopher Reeves (a personal hero) were still alive who testified so many times in front of Congress lived to see this new day. Perhaps he would have been one of the people saved. I attach his statement before Congress for any one who is interested.
<br />
<br />Whether you are in favor or disagree with the new rules., one thing is certain: Stem Cells retrieved from cord cells are NOT the same as those from embryonic stem cells.
<br />
<br />The disadvantage of cord blood cells is that they are in relatively few numbers available in cord blood and they do not grow as well as human embryonic stem cells. This makes working with cord blood harder. Another disadvantage is while an exact genetic copy can be created with human embryonic stem cells, it cannot be done with cord blood unless it is the cord blood of the patient.
<br />
<br />Umbilical cord stem cells are not capable of transforming into other type of cells.
<br />
<br />And if there were no difference, obviously this debate would have ended a long time ago. At least now it's a moot point.
<br />
<br /> Each and every one of us on this site can now have renewed hope that a cure may someday be found because the government will no longer stand in the way of science.
<br />
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
">http://www.chrisreevehomepage.com/testimony-nih.html
</a><br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
">http://www.californiastemcell.com/edu_cordsc
</a><br />
 

kitomd21

New member
"If someone offered you something to make your child's life easier, your child's breathing easier, your child's life longer and better... not one person can say what they would and wouldn't do until they are faced with it..."

Such a controversial issue - but I do know where I stand and I will not falter on my position - no apologies on that one, SaraJean. The fundamental issue is not a question of stem cells "working", but that their source is from an aborted fetus. I'm sure there are many counterpoints to my position such as the question of other treatments and their origins and whether or not I would disagree and/or if myself or others are using medicines based upon questionable testing and/or creation. I do know, however, that I do not benefit from aborted fetuses.

Nightwriter - exactly why we have "banked" cord blood from both of our children. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> My children will benefit from these stem cells, not those of fetuses.
 

kitomd21

New member
"If someone offered you something to make your child's life easier, your child's breathing easier, your child's life longer and better... not one person can say what they would and wouldn't do until they are faced with it..."

Such a controversial issue - but I do know where I stand and I will not falter on my position - no apologies on that one, SaraJean. The fundamental issue is not a question of stem cells "working", but that their source is from an aborted fetus. I'm sure there are many counterpoints to my position such as the question of other treatments and their origins and whether or not I would disagree and/or if myself or others are using medicines based upon questionable testing and/or creation. I do know, however, that I do not benefit from aborted fetuses.

Nightwriter - exactly why we have "banked" cord blood from both of our children. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> My children will benefit from these stem cells, not those of fetuses.
 

kitomd21

New member
"If someone offered you something to make your child's life easier, your child's breathing easier, your child's life longer and better... not one person can say what they would and wouldn't do until they are faced with it..."

Such a controversial issue - but I do know where I stand and I will not falter on my position - no apologies on that one, SaraJean. The fundamental issue is not a question of stem cells "working", but that their source is from an aborted fetus. I'm sure there are many counterpoints to my position such as the question of other treatments and their origins and whether or not I would disagree and/or if myself or others are using medicines based upon questionable testing and/or creation. I do know, however, that I do not benefit from aborted fetuses.

Nightwriter - exactly why we have "banked" cord blood from both of our children. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> My children will benefit from these stem cells, not those of fetuses.
 

kitomd21

New member
"If someone offered you something to make your child's life easier, your child's breathing easier, your child's life longer and better... not one person can say what they would and wouldn't do until they are faced with it..."

Such a controversial issue - but I do know where I stand and I will not falter on my position - no apologies on that one, SaraJean. The fundamental issue is not a question of stem cells "working", but that their source is from an aborted fetus. I'm sure there are many counterpoints to my position such as the question of other treatments and their origins and whether or not I would disagree and/or if myself or others are using medicines based upon questionable testing and/or creation. I do know, however, that I do not benefit from aborted fetuses.

Nightwriter - exactly why we have "banked" cord blood from both of our children. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> My children will benefit from these stem cells, not those of fetuses.
 

kitomd21

New member
"If someone offered you something to make your child's life easier, your child's breathing easier, your child's life longer and better... not one person can say what they would and wouldn't do until they are faced with it..."
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<br />Such a controversial issue - but I do know where I stand and I will not falter on my position - no apologies on that one, SaraJean. The fundamental issue is not a question of stem cells "working", but that their source is from an aborted fetus. I'm sure there are many counterpoints to my position such as the question of other treatments and their origins and whether or not I would disagree and/or if myself or others are using medicines based upon questionable testing and/or creation. I do know, however, that I do not benefit from aborted fetuses.
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<br />Nightwriter - exactly why we have "banked" cord blood from both of our children. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> My children will benefit from these stem cells, not those of fetuses.
 

Nightwriter

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Kitomd,

Cord blood cannot be used for every kind of disease even within the individual. It can currently ONLY be used for Leukemia and other blood disorders. Embryonic cells are the ONLY type of cells that can develop into other kinds of cells that can be used for ALL kinds of diseases. And most people in this world do not have their own cord blood banked even if it could be used for anything other than blood diseases. And if you read my link, as Christopher Reeve points out that under the last administation, embryos were being thrown in the garbage --which is pointless.

So unfortunately the cord blood which has few stem cells and are not easily grown is not enough to help your children or anyone, other than (heaven forbid) if they get Leukemia or another blood disorder as my post points out and is referenced since I am not a scientist or in the business of morality. Just want to be practical and see lives saved. To me that part is very simple. Again, not looking to change anyone's opinion, but do want the facts about the cells available to those who want to know the science, as linked.
 

Nightwriter

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Kitomd,

Cord blood cannot be used for every kind of disease even within the individual. It can currently ONLY be used for Leukemia and other blood disorders. Embryonic cells are the ONLY type of cells that can develop into other kinds of cells that can be used for ALL kinds of diseases. And most people in this world do not have their own cord blood banked even if it could be used for anything other than blood diseases. And if you read my link, as Christopher Reeve points out that under the last administation, embryos were being thrown in the garbage --which is pointless.

So unfortunately the cord blood which has few stem cells and are not easily grown is not enough to help your children or anyone, other than (heaven forbid) if they get Leukemia or another blood disorder as my post points out and is referenced since I am not a scientist or in the business of morality. Just want to be practical and see lives saved. To me that part is very simple. Again, not looking to change anyone's opinion, but do want the facts about the cells available to those who want to know the science, as linked.
 

Nightwriter

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Kitomd,

Cord blood cannot be used for every kind of disease even within the individual. It can currently ONLY be used for Leukemia and other blood disorders. Embryonic cells are the ONLY type of cells that can develop into other kinds of cells that can be used for ALL kinds of diseases. And most people in this world do not have their own cord blood banked even if it could be used for anything other than blood diseases. And if you read my link, as Christopher Reeve points out that under the last administation, embryos were being thrown in the garbage --which is pointless.

So unfortunately the cord blood which has few stem cells and are not easily grown is not enough to help your children or anyone, other than (heaven forbid) if they get Leukemia or another blood disorder as my post points out and is referenced since I am not a scientist or in the business of morality. Just want to be practical and see lives saved. To me that part is very simple. Again, not looking to change anyone's opinion, but do want the facts about the cells available to those who want to know the science, as linked.
 

Nightwriter

New member
Kitomd,

Cord blood cannot be used for every kind of disease even within the individual. It can currently ONLY be used for Leukemia and other blood disorders. Embryonic cells are the ONLY type of cells that can develop into other kinds of cells that can be used for ALL kinds of diseases. And most people in this world do not have their own cord blood banked even if it could be used for anything other than blood diseases. And if you read my link, as Christopher Reeve points out that under the last administation, embryos were being thrown in the garbage --which is pointless.

So unfortunately the cord blood which has few stem cells and are not easily grown is not enough to help your children or anyone, other than (heaven forbid) if they get Leukemia or another blood disorder as my post points out and is referenced since I am not a scientist or in the business of morality. Just want to be practical and see lives saved. To me that part is very simple. Again, not looking to change anyone's opinion, but do want the facts about the cells available to those who want to know the science, as linked.
 

Nightwriter

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Kitomd,
<br />
<br />Cord blood cannot be used for every kind of disease even within the individual. It can currently ONLY be used for Leukemia and other blood disorders. Embryonic cells are the ONLY type of cells that can develop into other kinds of cells that can be used for ALL kinds of diseases. And most people in this world do not have their own cord blood banked even if it could be used for anything other than blood diseases. And if you read my link, as Christopher Reeve points out that under the last administation, embryos were being thrown in the garbage --which is pointless.
<br />
<br />So unfortunately the cord blood which has few stem cells and are not easily grown is not enough to help your children or anyone, other than (heaven forbid) if they get Leukemia or another blood disorder as my post points out and is referenced since I am not a scientist or in the business of morality. Just want to be practical and see lives saved. To me that part is very simple. Again, not looking to change anyone's opinion, but do want the facts about the cells available to those who want to know the science, as linked.
 

kitomd21

New member
I can concede that cord blood stem cells are not the same as embryological stem cells, however, they can differentiate into neural cells which lends promise for such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's...NOT merely hematological and/or immune disorders. That being said, its my family's only option for stem cell use.

It's difficult not to get into a debate about such a passionate issue...both sides want desperately to convey why they think their position is correct - one side wanting to cure illnesses via embryonic stem cells, the other side trying to convey that embryonic stem cells come from aborted children. It's a life vs. "ball of cells" argument....not an area I want to risk being wrong about just so I can live longer....my conscience won't allow me that....
 

kitomd21

New member
I can concede that cord blood stem cells are not the same as embryological stem cells, however, they can differentiate into neural cells which lends promise for such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's...NOT merely hematological and/or immune disorders. That being said, its my family's only option for stem cell use.

It's difficult not to get into a debate about such a passionate issue...both sides want desperately to convey why they think their position is correct - one side wanting to cure illnesses via embryonic stem cells, the other side trying to convey that embryonic stem cells come from aborted children. It's a life vs. "ball of cells" argument....not an area I want to risk being wrong about just so I can live longer....my conscience won't allow me that....
 

kitomd21

New member
I can concede that cord blood stem cells are not the same as embryological stem cells, however, they can differentiate into neural cells which lends promise for such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's...NOT merely hematological and/or immune disorders. That being said, its my family's only option for stem cell use.

It's difficult not to get into a debate about such a passionate issue...both sides want desperately to convey why they think their position is correct - one side wanting to cure illnesses via embryonic stem cells, the other side trying to convey that embryonic stem cells come from aborted children. It's a life vs. "ball of cells" argument....not an area I want to risk being wrong about just so I can live longer....my conscience won't allow me that....
 

kitomd21

New member
I can concede that cord blood stem cells are not the same as embryological stem cells, however, they can differentiate into neural cells which lends promise for such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's...NOT merely hematological and/or immune disorders. That being said, its my family's only option for stem cell use.

It's difficult not to get into a debate about such a passionate issue...both sides want desperately to convey why they think their position is correct - one side wanting to cure illnesses via embryonic stem cells, the other side trying to convey that embryonic stem cells come from aborted children. It's a life vs. "ball of cells" argument....not an area I want to risk being wrong about just so I can live longer....my conscience won't allow me that....
 

kitomd21

New member
I can concede that cord blood stem cells are not the same as embryological stem cells, however, they can differentiate into neural cells which lends promise for such diseases as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's...NOT merely hematological and/or immune disorders. That being said, its my family's only option for stem cell use.
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<br />It's difficult not to get into a debate about such a passionate issue...both sides want desperately to convey why they think their position is correct - one side wanting to cure illnesses via embryonic stem cells, the other side trying to convey that embryonic stem cells come from aborted children. It's a life vs. "ball of cells" argument....not an area I want to risk being wrong about just so I can live longer....my conscience won't allow me that....
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