Terrible FEV1

ScottLippmann

New member
Sonia,

I completely understand where you are coming from. Before I went into the hospital over a year and a half ago I was extremely vigorous with my treatments and working out. My weight routine was getting pretty crazy and I was feeling really great, and normal. I had started dating someone and felt my life was in good order. Then I went in for a clinic appointment, my g/f at the time came with me too. I thought "This will be great, spend the day in London, get some food, hang out, and go have a great clinic" Not so. My FEV1 had fallen below 28% and I was back into a bed at the hospital that night.

I felt the exact same way you are feeling right now. I was at a total loss for words and couldn't understand. When I got out I didn't start back at the gym because I felt that it didn't matter what I did the numbers would go down regardless. That was something my g/f at the time could not understand and I don't think anyone without CF could understand that point of view for that matter. It almost seems like a futile effort at times.

Then one day I decided to go the gym again. I didn't like how I had lost the one major part of my life that really helped me feel like I could do something that people with normal lungs could do so well, and keep up at the very least. So I started doing weights again and have kept up pretty steady since then.

And I was feeling pretty good, but then I saw this forum and decided to join and see all these people in their late 20's, 30's and up with FEV1 results 50% higher. And for a moment I thought again what I was thinking that one visit that shot me down. <b>No one's fault, no one brought me down on this forum! I place NO blame.</b> But the last thing I want to do is lose that part of my life again that helps me feel like I have control.

I suppose that's the part that we need more than anything else, that feeling that we are controlling this. And when we see these tests results and they slip away despite best efforts that feeling of control slips with them.

I guess the only thing that can be done when we gets results like you have received is try to get an understanding as to why and try and aim up for next time. As people have posted, the numbers fluctuate throughout the day, bad time of year, not enough rest before an appointment. I even find that if I eat before an appointment my results will slip, so I skip all my meals for that day until the appointment is done. I know that's not great energy wise, and it's probably not recommended. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

You say that i'm motivated, but beleive me, I wish I was as strong and positive as you think I am. And I think I speak for everyone here, despite being new to this forum, that no one thinks you're whining!

From all the threads I've read on here, I think for once this is a place where people actually have about as complete an understanding as to where each poster is coming from as one could hope for.

Just remember, sometimes the illusion of control can be as beneficial as having the control itself. Without either that's when your hope is gone. Hold onto it. Look at those tests and work even harder for next time. I'm going to do the same and push myself up for my next appointment in 4 months. And I can honestly say it's thanks to everyone on this site. It really helped put myself into perspective and realize that I could be working even harder.

I know this has rambled on for a bit now. Sorry to anyone who actually read this far. But I'll post this for all also. I wrote this when I was feeling very bad about everything and didn't want to do anything anymore. Now I think it's more motivating than anything.

It's sappy... sorry <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

<i><b>Rusted Chains</b></i>

These chains that are binding,
Holding too tightly,
I struggle to breathe,
Using all of my might

But they do not give,
Not budge even slightly,
I scream out for help,
My words travel so lightly

I kick and I push,
I try what I can,
My mind is still slipping,
Please give me your hand

I can't do this for long,
Time is passing so fast,
A touch from your fingers,
Remind me of the past

The chains were much brighter,
And I wore them with pride,
But these tears have they weathered,
I can't stop but I've tried

Please give me your hand,
Help loosen their grip,
Help free me from sorrow,
Help make these chains slip.



Scott - 27 m
 

ScottLippmann

New member
Sonia,

I completely understand where you are coming from. Before I went into the hospital over a year and a half ago I was extremely vigorous with my treatments and working out. My weight routine was getting pretty crazy and I was feeling really great, and normal. I had started dating someone and felt my life was in good order. Then I went in for a clinic appointment, my g/f at the time came with me too. I thought "This will be great, spend the day in London, get some food, hang out, and go have a great clinic" Not so. My FEV1 had fallen below 28% and I was back into a bed at the hospital that night.

I felt the exact same way you are feeling right now. I was at a total loss for words and couldn't understand. When I got out I didn't start back at the gym because I felt that it didn't matter what I did the numbers would go down regardless. That was something my g/f at the time could not understand and I don't think anyone without CF could understand that point of view for that matter. It almost seems like a futile effort at times.

Then one day I decided to go the gym again. I didn't like how I had lost the one major part of my life that really helped me feel like I could do something that people with normal lungs could do so well, and keep up at the very least. So I started doing weights again and have kept up pretty steady since then.

And I was feeling pretty good, but then I saw this forum and decided to join and see all these people in their late 20's, 30's and up with FEV1 results 50% higher. And for a moment I thought again what I was thinking that one visit that shot me down. <b>No one's fault, no one brought me down on this forum! I place NO blame.</b> But the last thing I want to do is lose that part of my life again that helps me feel like I have control.

I suppose that's the part that we need more than anything else, that feeling that we are controlling this. And when we see these tests results and they slip away despite best efforts that feeling of control slips with them.

I guess the only thing that can be done when we gets results like you have received is try to get an understanding as to why and try and aim up for next time. As people have posted, the numbers fluctuate throughout the day, bad time of year, not enough rest before an appointment. I even find that if I eat before an appointment my results will slip, so I skip all my meals for that day until the appointment is done. I know that's not great energy wise, and it's probably not recommended. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

You say that i'm motivated, but beleive me, I wish I was as strong and positive as you think I am. And I think I speak for everyone here, despite being new to this forum, that no one thinks you're whining!

From all the threads I've read on here, I think for once this is a place where people actually have about as complete an understanding as to where each poster is coming from as one could hope for.

Just remember, sometimes the illusion of control can be as beneficial as having the control itself. Without either that's when your hope is gone. Hold onto it. Look at those tests and work even harder for next time. I'm going to do the same and push myself up for my next appointment in 4 months. And I can honestly say it's thanks to everyone on this site. It really helped put myself into perspective and realize that I could be working even harder.

I know this has rambled on for a bit now. Sorry to anyone who actually read this far. But I'll post this for all also. I wrote this when I was feeling very bad about everything and didn't want to do anything anymore. Now I think it's more motivating than anything.

It's sappy... sorry <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

<i><b>Rusted Chains</b></i>

These chains that are binding,
Holding too tightly,
I struggle to breathe,
Using all of my might

But they do not give,
Not budge even slightly,
I scream out for help,
My words travel so lightly

I kick and I push,
I try what I can,
My mind is still slipping,
Please give me your hand

I can't do this for long,
Time is passing so fast,
A touch from your fingers,
Remind me of the past

The chains were much brighter,
And I wore them with pride,
But these tears have they weathered,
I can't stop but I've tried

Please give me your hand,
Help loosen their grip,
Help free me from sorrow,
Help make these chains slip.



Scott - 27 m
 

ladybug

New member
Scott,

You have an amazing way of writing that really sums up my life with CF in a nutshell... how anyone can understand so completely when I don't even understand myself amazes me. Thank you for your kind words. Thank you for sharing your story. You inspire me. Even though I don't know if it will help... I want to TRY. Thank you.

And, the poem at the end of your post is amazing. Where did you find it?

Again, thank you for your words. I will sleep better tonight knowing I'm not alone and perhaps awake tomorrow with more motivation and drive, just having known there are people who care and I should care too.

Thanks,
 

ladybug

New member
Scott,

You have an amazing way of writing that really sums up my life with CF in a nutshell... how anyone can understand so completely when I don't even understand myself amazes me. Thank you for your kind words. Thank you for sharing your story. You inspire me. Even though I don't know if it will help... I want to TRY. Thank you.

And, the poem at the end of your post is amazing. Where did you find it?

Again, thank you for your words. I will sleep better tonight knowing I'm not alone and perhaps awake tomorrow with more motivation and drive, just having known there are people who care and I should care too.

Thanks,
 

ladybug

New member
Scott,

You have an amazing way of writing that really sums up my life with CF in a nutshell... how anyone can understand so completely when I don't even understand myself amazes me. Thank you for your kind words. Thank you for sharing your story. You inspire me. Even though I don't know if it will help... I want to TRY. Thank you.

And, the poem at the end of your post is amazing. Where did you find it?

Again, thank you for your words. I will sleep better tonight knowing I'm not alone and perhaps awake tomorrow with more motivation and drive, just having known there are people who care and I should care too.

Thanks,
 

ScottLippmann

New member
Sonia,

Thank you... I just wish I knew more. I guess that's one of my main reaons for joinging the site. I have had little to no contact with anyone with CF since all the CF related activities became restricted due to Cepacia.

I feel the same way, I want to get up and try tomorrow. My goal is to start running at the gym on top of the weight routine. I think if I do weights at lunchtime as usual, then i'll go back at night for the cardio. Like you said, just have to try and see what happens from there.

I guess a part of me runs on fear. I become very visual and see myself in terrible shape at 40 and having never tried doing everything I can now to prevent it scares me into it. It's not full proof, but it got me back to the gym from last time. We'll see where it goes from here.

As for the poem, that was something I wrote when I was feeling extremely hopeless a couple of years ago. I was in school fulltime for programming and working as a Supervisor fulltime at Tim Hortons. I got so very sick twice due to the overload of work. I ended up in bed for a week and lost 30lbs. I was staying at my grandmothers at the time. When my parents saw how sick I was my dad took me right to the hospital. I wrote that sometime after making it through because I felt like no matter how hard I wanted to work I wouldn't be able to and my lungs would hold me down.

Now that poem just makes me think if I want to work hard at everything else and have such rediculously long days then I have to work hard at my lungs too.

I sure hopes it's motivating, maybe not now, but sometime later at least.

I would add something here like "Work hard you can do anything you set your mind too." But I think we've all heard that from everyone close to us and to be honest it's just too cliche.

Everyone here has their lapses in confidence. But that's why we will always work harder than anyone else, because they are just lapses.

I haven't heard that one before, i'll have to write it down. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Scott
 

ScottLippmann

New member
Sonia,

Thank you... I just wish I knew more. I guess that's one of my main reaons for joinging the site. I have had little to no contact with anyone with CF since all the CF related activities became restricted due to Cepacia.

I feel the same way, I want to get up and try tomorrow. My goal is to start running at the gym on top of the weight routine. I think if I do weights at lunchtime as usual, then i'll go back at night for the cardio. Like you said, just have to try and see what happens from there.

I guess a part of me runs on fear. I become very visual and see myself in terrible shape at 40 and having never tried doing everything I can now to prevent it scares me into it. It's not full proof, but it got me back to the gym from last time. We'll see where it goes from here.

As for the poem, that was something I wrote when I was feeling extremely hopeless a couple of years ago. I was in school fulltime for programming and working as a Supervisor fulltime at Tim Hortons. I got so very sick twice due to the overload of work. I ended up in bed for a week and lost 30lbs. I was staying at my grandmothers at the time. When my parents saw how sick I was my dad took me right to the hospital. I wrote that sometime after making it through because I felt like no matter how hard I wanted to work I wouldn't be able to and my lungs would hold me down.

Now that poem just makes me think if I want to work hard at everything else and have such rediculously long days then I have to work hard at my lungs too.

I sure hopes it's motivating, maybe not now, but sometime later at least.

I would add something here like "Work hard you can do anything you set your mind too." But I think we've all heard that from everyone close to us and to be honest it's just too cliche.

Everyone here has their lapses in confidence. But that's why we will always work harder than anyone else, because they are just lapses.

I haven't heard that one before, i'll have to write it down. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Scott
 

ScottLippmann

New member
Sonia,

Thank you... I just wish I knew more. I guess that's one of my main reaons for joinging the site. I have had little to no contact with anyone with CF since all the CF related activities became restricted due to Cepacia.

I feel the same way, I want to get up and try tomorrow. My goal is to start running at the gym on top of the weight routine. I think if I do weights at lunchtime as usual, then i'll go back at night for the cardio. Like you said, just have to try and see what happens from there.

I guess a part of me runs on fear. I become very visual and see myself in terrible shape at 40 and having never tried doing everything I can now to prevent it scares me into it. It's not full proof, but it got me back to the gym from last time. We'll see where it goes from here.

As for the poem, that was something I wrote when I was feeling extremely hopeless a couple of years ago. I was in school fulltime for programming and working as a Supervisor fulltime at Tim Hortons. I got so very sick twice due to the overload of work. I ended up in bed for a week and lost 30lbs. I was staying at my grandmothers at the time. When my parents saw how sick I was my dad took me right to the hospital. I wrote that sometime after making it through because I felt like no matter how hard I wanted to work I wouldn't be able to and my lungs would hold me down.

Now that poem just makes me think if I want to work hard at everything else and have such rediculously long days then I have to work hard at my lungs too.

I sure hopes it's motivating, maybe not now, but sometime later at least.

I would add something here like "Work hard you can do anything you set your mind too." But I think we've all heard that from everyone close to us and to be honest it's just too cliche.

Everyone here has their lapses in confidence. But that's why we will always work harder than anyone else, because they are just lapses.

I haven't heard that one before, i'll have to write it down. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

Scott
 
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luke

Guest
Sonia,

Did the just do a spirometry in the office or do you have a regular PFT? What time of day did you do your test? Was it earlier in the day from the last test you did one? As for reflux...it will cause bronchospasm. Do you take or did your doc prescribe anything for it. The worst thing in the world for already compromised lungs is to get douched with acid. All of these things are factors in your test that doctors don't always think of. As for feeling good with lower PFT's???Many of us feel that way, on our good days are tests aren't as good as some of our bad days. I have yet to figure that one out but I think it has something to do with the FVC/FEV1 ratio. I have a theory but I won't bore anyone with the details.


luke
 
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luke

Guest
Sonia,

Did the just do a spirometry in the office or do you have a regular PFT? What time of day did you do your test? Was it earlier in the day from the last test you did one? As for reflux...it will cause bronchospasm. Do you take or did your doc prescribe anything for it. The worst thing in the world for already compromised lungs is to get douched with acid. All of these things are factors in your test that doctors don't always think of. As for feeling good with lower PFT's???Many of us feel that way, on our good days are tests aren't as good as some of our bad days. I have yet to figure that one out but I think it has something to do with the FVC/FEV1 ratio. I have a theory but I won't bore anyone with the details.


luke
 
L

luke

Guest
Sonia,

Did the just do a spirometry in the office or do you have a regular PFT? What time of day did you do your test? Was it earlier in the day from the last test you did one? As for reflux...it will cause bronchospasm. Do you take or did your doc prescribe anything for it. The worst thing in the world for already compromised lungs is to get douched with acid. All of these things are factors in your test that doctors don't always think of. As for feeling good with lower PFT's???Many of us feel that way, on our good days are tests aren't as good as some of our bad days. I have yet to figure that one out but I think it has something to do with the FVC/FEV1 ratio. I have a theory but I won't bore anyone with the details.


luke
 

ladybug

New member
Luke,

Yes, it was about the same time as before. It was morning, which is usually worse for me anyway, but hadn't been the last few times... I have taken them in the a.m. for the past 2 years or so.

Yes, I didn't actually have reflux that morning, but had been getting more and more heartburn at home, even with an Rx acid reducer... They switched my acid reducer to see if something stronger and more often would help.


I actually went to the gym last night and though I usually can run about 15 minutes, I could only sqeek out about 4 minutes and had severe pains in my upper abdomin and was having trouble breathing. So, I'm assuming its the GERD acting up. I really hope that's all it was on those PFTs. But, if not, I have appreciated the uplifting things Scott has been saying about PFTs getting low, but not getting you down or maybe even motivating you to try harder. So, I guess either way, I'll do what I can.

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

ladybug

New member
Luke,

Yes, it was about the same time as before. It was morning, which is usually worse for me anyway, but hadn't been the last few times... I have taken them in the a.m. for the past 2 years or so.

Yes, I didn't actually have reflux that morning, but had been getting more and more heartburn at home, even with an Rx acid reducer... They switched my acid reducer to see if something stronger and more often would help.


I actually went to the gym last night and though I usually can run about 15 minutes, I could only sqeek out about 4 minutes and had severe pains in my upper abdomin and was having trouble breathing. So, I'm assuming its the GERD acting up. I really hope that's all it was on those PFTs. But, if not, I have appreciated the uplifting things Scott has been saying about PFTs getting low, but not getting you down or maybe even motivating you to try harder. So, I guess either way, I'll do what I can.

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

ladybug

New member
Luke,

Yes, it was about the same time as before. It was morning, which is usually worse for me anyway, but hadn't been the last few times... I have taken them in the a.m. for the past 2 years or so.

Yes, I didn't actually have reflux that morning, but had been getting more and more heartburn at home, even with an Rx acid reducer... They switched my acid reducer to see if something stronger and more often would help.


I actually went to the gym last night and though I usually can run about 15 minutes, I could only sqeek out about 4 minutes and had severe pains in my upper abdomin and was having trouble breathing. So, I'm assuming its the GERD acting up. I really hope that's all it was on those PFTs. But, if not, I have appreciated the uplifting things Scott has been saying about PFTs getting low, but not getting you down or maybe even motivating you to try harder. So, I guess either way, I'll do what I can.

<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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