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JazzysMom

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Pregnancy did agree with me. It doesnt for everyone & I would stake my house on it that the care of the child is much harder because that doesnt go away in 8- 9 months. If you have a problem during pregnancy its much harder to bounce back when you now have a baby to care for even with all the support in the world. Once you become a mom (pregnancy or adoption) its instinctive to want to do for that child.
 
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MCGrad2006

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I have also been thinking about this very topic lately. I am not engaged or anything, but have a serious boyfriend and we have talked about getting engaged, I'm just not ready. I have always loved children and cant wait to have my own. Eventually when i get married, I would like to have at least one on my own. I want to be able to be pregnant just once. I am also not against adoption, I think it would be a great thing to do. I agree with many of you that are already moms tho, having the child is probably going to be harder than tthe actual pregnancy.

By the way, Vanessa....I am Caitlin, and I am 22. NIce to meet you and hopefully we can get to know each other better!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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MCGrad2006

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I have also been thinking about this very topic lately. I am not engaged or anything, but have a serious boyfriend and we have talked about getting engaged, I'm just not ready. I have always loved children and cant wait to have my own. Eventually when i get married, I would like to have at least one on my own. I want to be able to be pregnant just once. I am also not against adoption, I think it would be a great thing to do. I agree with many of you that are already moms tho, having the child is probably going to be harder than tthe actual pregnancy.

By the way, Vanessa....I am Caitlin, and I am 22. NIce to meet you and hopefully we can get to know each other better!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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MCGrad2006

Guest
I have also been thinking about this very topic lately. I am not engaged or anything, but have a serious boyfriend and we have talked about getting engaged, I'm just not ready. I have always loved children and cant wait to have my own. Eventually when i get married, I would like to have at least one on my own. I want to be able to be pregnant just once. I am also not against adoption, I think it would be a great thing to do. I agree with many of you that are already moms tho, having the child is probably going to be harder than tthe actual pregnancy.

By the way, Vanessa....I am Caitlin, and I am 22. NIce to meet you and hopefully we can get to know each other better!!! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

NoExcuses

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Great post Lori. Here is an updated article from Chest of <b>2006.</b>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=16537871
">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en...t_uids=16537871
</a>


The one issue I have with the study is that they are comparing pregnant women with an average FEV1 of 75% in the pregnancy group and the non-pregnant group had an FEV1 of 66%. I'm willing to bet that if you compared two groups of CF patients, both groups not pregnant, one with an average FEV1 of 75% and one with an average FEV1 of 66%, the 66% group would decline faster than the 75% group. Not much, but there would be a difference.

So comparing a healthier 75% pregnant group and saying that their decline was the same as a 66% less healthy group is inherinetly flawed.

The study goes on to say:

"During pregnancy, outpatient visits were 33% more frequent compared to baseline and 62% more frequent than in the nonpregnant group (7.19 vs 4.45, respectively, visits annually). Annual rates of respiratory exacerbation and hospitalization..... increased during pregnancy."

"CONCLUSIONS: ....pregnant women use a greater number of therapies and receive more intense monitoring of their health."
 

NoExcuses

New member
Great post Lori. Here is an updated article from Chest of <b>2006.</b>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=16537871
">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en...t_uids=16537871
</a>


The one issue I have with the study is that they are comparing pregnant women with an average FEV1 of 75% in the pregnancy group and the non-pregnant group had an FEV1 of 66%. I'm willing to bet that if you compared two groups of CF patients, both groups not pregnant, one with an average FEV1 of 75% and one with an average FEV1 of 66%, the 66% group would decline faster than the 75% group. Not much, but there would be a difference.

So comparing a healthier 75% pregnant group and saying that their decline was the same as a 66% less healthy group is inherinetly flawed.

The study goes on to say:

"During pregnancy, outpatient visits were 33% more frequent compared to baseline and 62% more frequent than in the nonpregnant group (7.19 vs 4.45, respectively, visits annually). Annual rates of respiratory exacerbation and hospitalization..... increased during pregnancy."

"CONCLUSIONS: ....pregnant women use a greater number of therapies and receive more intense monitoring of their health."
 

NoExcuses

New member
Great post Lori. Here is an updated article from Chest of <b>2006.</b>

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itool=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstractplus&list_uids=16537871
">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/en...t_uids=16537871
</a>


The one issue I have with the study is that they are comparing pregnant women with an average FEV1 of 75% in the pregnancy group and the non-pregnant group had an FEV1 of 66%. I'm willing to bet that if you compared two groups of CF patients, both groups not pregnant, one with an average FEV1 of 75% and one with an average FEV1 of 66%, the 66% group would decline faster than the 75% group. Not much, but there would be a difference.

So comparing a healthier 75% pregnant group and saying that their decline was the same as a 66% less healthy group is inherinetly flawed.

The study goes on to say:

"During pregnancy, outpatient visits were 33% more frequent compared to baseline and 62% more frequent than in the nonpregnant group (7.19 vs 4.45, respectively, visits annually). Annual rates of respiratory exacerbation and hospitalization..... increased during pregnancy."

"CONCLUSIONS: ....pregnant women use a greater number of therapies and receive more intense monitoring of their health."
 

Hermit

New member
Amy, doesn't that just make sense though?

Obviously a pregnant CF woman is going to be monitored much more closely than a non-pregnant CF woman. So if the doctors think she could have an infection, they're probably more likely to admit her than just send her home on oral antibiotics and Tobi. Also, a CF woman is considered a "high-risk pregnancy"--meaning she will have to go in for more check-ups, and more general monitoring than a non-pregnant one. This just makes sense, and is certainly not necessarily DUE to the pregnancy.

My mother has been an Ob/Gyn for 30 years, and she specializes in high-risk pregnancies. Neither her, nor four out of my five CF doctors have ever said CF and pregnancy don't mix (and this is my mother, who is paranoid about my health). I have had the "tie my tubes?" conversation with them many times and generally the answer is "no!". My PFTs are 60%, I am in the normal weight range for my height and my health is considered stable.

Though it may be more difficult to take care of a child when you have CF, it's more incentive to stay healthy for a long time. You can't just "give up" anymore because you're a mother. I think the happiness and love associated with having kids can only be a positive thing (unless you're maybe a single mom and don't have any kind of financial/emotional support network, in which case I think it would be quite difficult!)

Just my thoughts,
Chris
 

Hermit

New member
Amy, doesn't that just make sense though?

Obviously a pregnant CF woman is going to be monitored much more closely than a non-pregnant CF woman. So if the doctors think she could have an infection, they're probably more likely to admit her than just send her home on oral antibiotics and Tobi. Also, a CF woman is considered a "high-risk pregnancy"--meaning she will have to go in for more check-ups, and more general monitoring than a non-pregnant one. This just makes sense, and is certainly not necessarily DUE to the pregnancy.

My mother has been an Ob/Gyn for 30 years, and she specializes in high-risk pregnancies. Neither her, nor four out of my five CF doctors have ever said CF and pregnancy don't mix (and this is my mother, who is paranoid about my health). I have had the "tie my tubes?" conversation with them many times and generally the answer is "no!". My PFTs are 60%, I am in the normal weight range for my height and my health is considered stable.

Though it may be more difficult to take care of a child when you have CF, it's more incentive to stay healthy for a long time. You can't just "give up" anymore because you're a mother. I think the happiness and love associated with having kids can only be a positive thing (unless you're maybe a single mom and don't have any kind of financial/emotional support network, in which case I think it would be quite difficult!)

Just my thoughts,
Chris
 

Hermit

New member
Amy, doesn't that just make sense though?

Obviously a pregnant CF woman is going to be monitored much more closely than a non-pregnant CF woman. So if the doctors think she could have an infection, they're probably more likely to admit her than just send her home on oral antibiotics and Tobi. Also, a CF woman is considered a "high-risk pregnancy"--meaning she will have to go in for more check-ups, and more general monitoring than a non-pregnant one. This just makes sense, and is certainly not necessarily DUE to the pregnancy.

My mother has been an Ob/Gyn for 30 years, and she specializes in high-risk pregnancies. Neither her, nor four out of my five CF doctors have ever said CF and pregnancy don't mix (and this is my mother, who is paranoid about my health). I have had the "tie my tubes?" conversation with them many times and generally the answer is "no!". My PFTs are 60%, I am in the normal weight range for my height and my health is considered stable.

Though it may be more difficult to take care of a child when you have CF, it's more incentive to stay healthy for a long time. You can't just "give up" anymore because you're a mother. I think the happiness and love associated with having kids can only be a positive thing (unless you're maybe a single mom and don't have any kind of financial/emotional support network, in which case I think it would be quite difficult!)

Just my thoughts,
Chris
 

Allie

New member
I agree with your doctor. Why?

I have known 3 people with CF who got pregnant, 2 died, 1 almost did. It's not the majority...but what if it's you? Is that worth leaving you existing child? It's not just for you, it's for the love of Eli. Adopt if you want more, but do what you can for Eli.
 

Allie

New member
I agree with your doctor. Why?

I have known 3 people with CF who got pregnant, 2 died, 1 almost did. It's not the majority...but what if it's you? Is that worth leaving you existing child? It's not just for you, it's for the love of Eli. Adopt if you want more, but do what you can for Eli.
 

Allie

New member
I agree with your doctor. Why?

I have known 3 people with CF who got pregnant, 2 died, 1 almost did. It's not the majority...but what if it's you? Is that worth leaving you existing child? It's not just for you, it's for the love of Eli. Adopt if you want more, but do what you can for Eli.
 

becca23

New member
When I was pregnant I was actually healthier. Yes I did see the cf docs more often but that was for prcautionary reasons. Just like seeing the ob monthly. I only went every two months instead of every three.

As far as my health, yes it has declined some but I do not htink it was do ot hte pregnancies, I think the MRSA is more to blame ,which I cultured positive for 8 months after having my last child, it is my belief that I contracted it will in hospital for gallbladder surgery.
 

becca23

New member
When I was pregnant I was actually healthier. Yes I did see the cf docs more often but that was for prcautionary reasons. Just like seeing the ob monthly. I only went every two months instead of every three.

As far as my health, yes it has declined some but I do not htink it was do ot hte pregnancies, I think the MRSA is more to blame ,which I cultured positive for 8 months after having my last child, it is my belief that I contracted it will in hospital for gallbladder surgery.
 

becca23

New member
When I was pregnant I was actually healthier. Yes I did see the cf docs more often but that was for prcautionary reasons. Just like seeing the ob monthly. I only went every two months instead of every three.

As far as my health, yes it has declined some but I do not htink it was do ot hte pregnancies, I think the MRSA is more to blame ,which I cultured positive for 8 months after having my last child, it is my belief that I contracted it will in hospital for gallbladder surgery.
 

Jem

New member
I have 3 children. One is almost 21, one 19 and one 16. These pregnancies took place after I had my Upper Left Lobectomy due to chronic hemoptysis. 7 yrs ago I had the rest of my left lung removed because of chronic hemoptysis. My pregnancies went well. I have not had a tubal. For a family planning method my husband and I use Natural Family Planning which has been extremely effective. The state of my health today is very good. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Jem

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I have 3 children. One is almost 21, one 19 and one 16. These pregnancies took place after I had my Upper Left Lobectomy due to chronic hemoptysis. 7 yrs ago I had the rest of my left lung removed because of chronic hemoptysis. My pregnancies went well. I have not had a tubal. For a family planning method my husband and I use Natural Family Planning which has been extremely effective. The state of my health today is very good. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

Jem

New member
I have 3 children. One is almost 21, one 19 and one 16. These pregnancies took place after I had my Upper Left Lobectomy due to chronic hemoptysis. 7 yrs ago I had the rest of my left lung removed because of chronic hemoptysis. My pregnancies went well. I have not had a tubal. For a family planning method my husband and I use Natural Family Planning which has been extremely effective. The state of my health today is very good. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
Thanks everyone for responding .<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> You all seem really awesome!
My PFTs right now are in the 80's theyve been going up and down lately .
When i was pregnant i had my good days and bad days ide have days where i felt great! And then their was days i felt like sleeping all day because i had a hard time breathing ...But being Pregnant is the greatest feeling in the world ! Especially when your baby starts kicking and moving around !! I think Tying my Tubes was the right chose for me . Every Preganncy is diffrent and just because i did ok this time doesnt mean next time i wont have complications ..
Vanessa/CF/21/mommy of Eli non CF
 
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