vegetarian

grsswspr

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So what does it mean to a child with cf to all of a sudden give up eating meat? She is already pretty thin and I'm concerned that this will make matters worse. Has anyone had to deal with this or have any advice?
 

grsswspr

New member
So what does it mean to a child with cf to all of a sudden give up eating meat? She is already pretty thin and I'm concerned that this will make matters worse. Has anyone had to deal with this or have any advice?
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
I know there was an individual on here a few years ago who pretty much gave up meat with the exception of fish. You may want to post in the adult section to get a better response. I would think if she could find some healthy substitutes to get protein -- peanut or nut butter, nuts, tofu.... Cheese... I'm assuming she hasn't gone vegan and given up dairy as well.
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
I know there was an individual on here a few years ago who pretty much gave up meat with the exception of fish. You may want to post in the adult section to get a better response. I would think if she could find some healthy substitutes to get protein -- peanut or nut butter, nuts, tofu.... Cheese... I'm assuming she hasn't gone vegan and given up dairy as well.
 
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Kaethe108

Guest
hmmm, i am vegetarian since 13 years. in our household theres never any meat, fish, sausage etc.
the nutritionist of our daughter tells us that it is absolutely necessary for a cf child to eat meat and fish, because some substances like certain vitamins or selen etc. are not enough in veggies, eggs, milk etc.

i have to admit that i am not really convinced by that and i learned a lot about the healthyness of vegetarian diet. e.g. some beans have up to 9 times more protein than meat...

i wish i could prove/know that raising my daughter vegetarian will not harm her health!
 
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Kaethe108

Guest
hmmm, i am vegetarian since 13 years. in our household theres never any meat, fish, sausage etc.
the nutritionist of our daughter tells us that it is absolutely necessary for a cf child to eat meat and fish, because some substances like certain vitamins or selen etc. are not enough in veggies, eggs, milk etc.

i have to admit that i am not really convinced by that and i learned a lot about the healthyness of vegetarian diet. e.g. some beans have up to 9 times more protein than meat...

i wish i could prove/know that raising my daughter vegetarian will not harm her health!
 
I think that as long she eats fish and diary and takes extra minerals she migh benefit ... but only if she will eat homemade vegeterian food - try indian cuisine to start - and make sure you're daughter does it with you:
beans, all kinds off oils, soy, nuts and so on..
its a hard cuisine to follow and many recepies are a bit hard..and take up time to prepare - there where no readymade thing for vegetrians then in shops - so I think this would also be good to force - no ready-made stuff
it's also a hard age for her
but I think also you must make her promisse that if her weight will go down or blood work shows low witains and so on, she will give up her new diet.. maybe do some additional blood test every month or so
I think kids with cf should eat meat and fish ... but I was also 15 when I tried to be vegetarian ..
I had to do alot of learning about food and cooking and prove I can do it myself - my mom made sure of it... she also made me cook for the whole family so they could also taste and see how it works for them
I also - no cf - was made to do additional blood tests for witamins and minerals
after two - 3 years I gave it up as I went on a high mountain climbing expedition during which I had no other way of getting the right amount of calories - but to eat meat again <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
but the good part was that I learned about good healthy food, I learned to cook and also gave my family new recepies and made our diet more diverse and healthy
fresh vegtables and fruits are a wonderfull diet - esspecially for cf'er's - but I would also be very watchfull of this and wht she eats..
 
I think that as long she eats fish and diary and takes extra minerals she migh benefit ... but only if she will eat homemade vegeterian food - try indian cuisine to start - and make sure you're daughter does it with you:
beans, all kinds off oils, soy, nuts and so on..
its a hard cuisine to follow and many recepies are a bit hard..and take up time to prepare - there where no readymade thing for vegetrians then in shops - so I think this would also be good to force - no ready-made stuff
it's also a hard age for her
but I think also you must make her promisse that if her weight will go down or blood work shows low witains and so on, she will give up her new diet.. maybe do some additional blood test every month or so
I think kids with cf should eat meat and fish ... but I was also 15 when I tried to be vegetarian ..
I had to do alot of learning about food and cooking and prove I can do it myself - my mom made sure of it... she also made me cook for the whole family so they could also taste and see how it works for them
I also - no cf - was made to do additional blood tests for witamins and minerals
after two - 3 years I gave it up as I went on a high mountain climbing expedition during which I had no other way of getting the right amount of calories - but to eat meat again <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
but the good part was that I learned about good healthy food, I learned to cook and also gave my family new recepies and made our diet more diverse and healthy
fresh vegtables and fruits are a wonderfull diet - esspecially for cf'er's - but I would also be very watchfull of this and wht she eats..
 

kitomd21

New member
Is she old enough to make this decision for herself? If you disagree with her choice and you're her parent...then she doesn't have a choice as it may be detrimental to her health. When she's of age, go for it...but, IMO, my child wouldn't be allowed to make that choice without the knowledge to back up her choice as being healthy. There's enough to worry about with CF.
 

kitomd21

New member
Is she old enough to make this decision for herself? If you disagree with her choice and you're her parent...then she doesn't have a choice as it may be detrimental to her health. When she's of age, go for it...but, IMO, my child wouldn't be allowed to make that choice without the knowledge to back up her choice as being healthy. There's enough to worry about with CF.
 

erock77

Member
I'm a veggie dude who also eats fish sometimes, for the last 12 years.
I actually gained weight at first, I was eating a lot of pasta. It's a little more difficult to keep weight on, but I felt better when I switched both physically and emotionally. It's nice to live along ones principals. You just need to eat a little more, and make sure you get your calories and proteins in. Almost everything has Some protein in it.
 

erock77

Member
I'm a veggie dude who also eats fish sometimes, for the last 12 years.
I actually gained weight at first, I was eating a lot of pasta. It's a little more difficult to keep weight on, but I felt better when I switched both physically and emotionally. It's nice to live along ones principals. You just need to eat a little more, and make sure you get your calories and proteins in. Almost everything has Some protein in it.
 

sahein79

New member
I eat mostly a vegan, plant based diet. I do not eat dairy because it causes mucous. I eat lots of fruits and veggies to keep myself as alkaline as possible, and they also have great anti-inflamatory properties! She should make sure she eats plenty of nuts, soaked first, and coconut oil is great for extra calories. I do occasionally eat wild fish or a grass fed steak. My body spends less time working on digestion and spends more time healing/repairing itself. Prescription for Nutritional Healing recommends a plant based, high raw diet for CF. Check it out. What blood type is your daughter? A's thrive on veggie/vegan diet. Just make sure she is not a junk food vegetarian and takes good supplements! I also choose to not eat gluten, as it is a binding protien, clogs up the lymph, and makes me feel more congested.

Samantha
32 w/CF
 

sahein79

New member
I eat mostly a vegan, plant based diet. I do not eat dairy because it causes mucous. I eat lots of fruits and veggies to keep myself as alkaline as possible, and they also have great anti-inflamatory properties! She should make sure she eats plenty of nuts, soaked first, and coconut oil is great for extra calories. I do occasionally eat wild fish or a grass fed steak. My body spends less time working on digestion and spends more time healing/repairing itself. Prescription for Nutritional Healing recommends a plant based, high raw diet for CF. Check it out. What blood type is your daughter? A's thrive on veggie/vegan diet. Just make sure she is not a junk food vegetarian and takes good supplements! I also choose to not eat gluten, as it is a binding protien, clogs up the lymph, and makes me feel more congested.

Samantha
32 w/CF
 

grsswspr

New member
I am really loving the comments here. I have a much better perspective on Sheila's diet. I am going to continue to learn more about this but in the short term I am going to get the supplements going. I am going to get with her nutritionist from the cf clinic and work with her to help find the right diet for her. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. More posts are certainly welcome.
 

grsswspr

New member
I am really loving the comments here. I have a much better perspective on Sheila's diet. I am going to continue to learn more about this but in the short term I am going to get the supplements going. I am going to get with her nutritionist from the cf clinic and work with her to help find the right diet for her. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. More posts are certainly welcome.
 
I second on coconut oil and milk - and just coconuts - goes well with most food - seewt or salty dishes, caces and tehre are vegadrinks made with coconut milk - my kids love it
 
I second on coconut oil and milk - and just coconuts - goes well with most food - seewt or salty dishes, caces and tehre are vegadrinks made with coconut milk - my kids love it
 

jenspoon

New member
I am sure getting enough protein is not a problem with a vegetarian diet as there are many good quality sources available as mentioned.

My biggest concern, especially with daughters entering their teen years is maintaining their iron levels. My daughter's iron levels are always in need of improvement and that is despite eating red meat three to four times per week. There are other sources of iron but red meat seems to be an essential for maintaining adequate iron levels. I think this becomes even more important with the onset of menstruation.

Our specialist has advised against iron supplements - there are studies that show pseudomonas thrives on iron - so we have been advised to address her iron requirements from a dietary approach.

Just interested in any ideas on how iron levels are maintained in a vegetarian diet as most other sources (other than red meat) only contain a fraction of the iron contained in red meat and are usually inadequate.
 

jenspoon

New member
I am sure getting enough protein is not a problem with a vegetarian diet as there are many good quality sources available as mentioned.

My biggest concern, especially with daughters entering their teen years is maintaining their iron levels. My daughter's iron levels are always in need of improvement and that is despite eating red meat three to four times per week. There are other sources of iron but red meat seems to be an essential for maintaining adequate iron levels. I think this becomes even more important with the onset of menstruation.

Our specialist has advised against iron supplements - there are studies that show pseudomonas thrives on iron - so we have been advised to address her iron requirements from a dietary approach.

Just interested in any ideas on how iron levels are maintained in a vegetarian diet as most other sources (other than red meat) only contain a fraction of the iron contained in red meat and are usually inadequate.
 
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