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dramamama

New member
Just wanted to say I am sorry about such a devastating diagnosis. I had lung functions in the 80's and lost to 50% FEV1 bc of MAC and m. abscessus. They have never treated me because mine are very resistant and the doc at Denver and University at Texas in Tyler all agreed that it wasn't an option.

What I will say is that I have researched the LUNG Transplant thing extensively and it is still an option at certain centers. Do not give up hope! Ever! You always have options.

Get on Vitamin D3 immediately. Studies show that increased Vitamin D3 in the blood helps contain and fights the NTMs... This is something very easy to do and you should do it twice a day... at least 1000 units with a calcium/magnesium supplement.

Also, a friend in Netherlands and I both had very resistant NTMs and we both treated with colloidal silver and we both got much better. He was in the hospital for like 6 months and starting the silver and was able to be discharged.... email me and I will give you his email. I took it along with another "alternative" thing and quit culturing it altogether for more than 8 months. It is back but only sporadically and now is not as resistant...if you can believe that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> But, I gave up sugar, went on an anti-inflammatory diet, started magnesium, and started drinking green drinks (I blend vegetables in the blender to change my body and lung chemistry). Sounds like it is crazy, but I can send you my culture results to show the change it is making even now.

Also, NEVER EVER EVER let your doc put you on steroids now that you culture NTM. Our docs are a little behind in the research over here, but at The Hague the have done extensive research on this and find that steroids are a major cause in spreading of NTM. In fact, I had 8 months of clear cultures when my doc at National Jewish thought he would add a steroid burst because my white blood cell count was low.... indicating either a blood disorder or no infection.. In CF they tend to see high WBC count, so my number was strange... my dad also has low WBC and has run low all his life and I apparently just inherited that. The bottom line is the abscessus came back in the next culture two months later and it is the only thing that was changed in my treatment. My friend in the Netherlands also was told by his docs to never let a doc treat you with steroids once you culture NTM.

I wrote a paper to take to my doctor about NTMs and included research from an Israeli study that confirmed that long term ibuprofin and/or long term steroid usage preceded NTM culture in almost all cystic cases.... be very wary of how they treat you is the moral of this story.

contact if you want more info
 

dramamama

New member
Just wanted to say I am sorry about such a devastating diagnosis. I had lung functions in the 80's and lost to 50% FEV1 bc of MAC and m. abscessus. They have never treated me because mine are very resistant and the doc at Denver and University at Texas in Tyler all agreed that it wasn't an option.

What I will say is that I have researched the LUNG Transplant thing extensively and it is still an option at certain centers. Do not give up hope! Ever! You always have options.

Get on Vitamin D3 immediately. Studies show that increased Vitamin D3 in the blood helps contain and fights the NTMs... This is something very easy to do and you should do it twice a day... at least 1000 units with a calcium/magnesium supplement.

Also, a friend in Netherlands and I both had very resistant NTMs and we both treated with colloidal silver and we both got much better. He was in the hospital for like 6 months and starting the silver and was able to be discharged.... email me and I will give you his email. I took it along with another "alternative" thing and quit culturing it altogether for more than 8 months. It is back but only sporadically and now is not as resistant...if you can believe that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> But, I gave up sugar, went on an anti-inflammatory diet, started magnesium, and started drinking green drinks (I blend vegetables in the blender to change my body and lung chemistry). Sounds like it is crazy, but I can send you my culture results to show the change it is making even now.

Also, NEVER EVER EVER let your doc put you on steroids now that you culture NTM. Our docs are a little behind in the research over here, but at The Hague the have done extensive research on this and find that steroids are a major cause in spreading of NTM. In fact, I had 8 months of clear cultures when my doc at National Jewish thought he would add a steroid burst because my white blood cell count was low.... indicating either a blood disorder or no infection.. In CF they tend to see high WBC count, so my number was strange... my dad also has low WBC and has run low all his life and I apparently just inherited that. The bottom line is the abscessus came back in the next culture two months later and it is the only thing that was changed in my treatment. My friend in the Netherlands also was told by his docs to never let a doc treat you with steroids once you culture NTM.

I wrote a paper to take to my doctor about NTMs and included research from an Israeli study that confirmed that long term ibuprofin and/or long term steroid usage preceded NTM culture in almost all cystic cases.... be very wary of how they treat you is the moral of this story.

contact if you want more info
 

dramamama

New member
Just wanted to say I am sorry about such a devastating diagnosis. I had lung functions in the 80's and lost to 50% FEV1 bc of MAC and m. abscessus. They have never treated me because mine are very resistant and the doc at Denver and University at Texas in Tyler all agreed that it wasn't an option.

What I will say is that I have researched the LUNG Transplant thing extensively and it is still an option at certain centers. Do not give up hope! Ever! You always have options.

Get on Vitamin D3 immediately. Studies show that increased Vitamin D3 in the blood helps contain and fights the NTMs... This is something very easy to do and you should do it twice a day... at least 1000 units with a calcium/magnesium supplement.

Also, a friend in Netherlands and I both had very resistant NTMs and we both treated with colloidal silver and we both got much better. He was in the hospital for like 6 months and starting the silver and was able to be discharged.... email me and I will give you his email. I took it along with another "alternative" thing and quit culturing it altogether for more than 8 months. It is back but only sporadically and now is not as resistant...if you can believe that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> But, I gave up sugar, went on an anti-inflammatory diet, started magnesium, and started drinking green drinks (I blend vegetables in the blender to change my body and lung chemistry). Sounds like it is crazy, but I can send you my culture results to show the change it is making even now.

Also, NEVER EVER EVER let your doc put you on steroids now that you culture NTM. Our docs are a little behind in the research over here, but at The Hague the have done extensive research on this and find that steroids are a major cause in spreading of NTM. In fact, I had 8 months of clear cultures when my doc at National Jewish thought he would add a steroid burst because my white blood cell count was low.... indicating either a blood disorder or no infection.. In CF they tend to see high WBC count, so my number was strange... my dad also has low WBC and has run low all his life and I apparently just inherited that. The bottom line is the abscessus came back in the next culture two months later and it is the only thing that was changed in my treatment. My friend in the Netherlands also was told by his docs to never let a doc treat you with steroids once you culture NTM.

I wrote a paper to take to my doctor about NTMs and included research from an Israeli study that confirmed that long term ibuprofin and/or long term steroid usage preceded NTM culture in almost all cystic cases.... be very wary of how they treat you is the moral of this story.

contact if you want more info
 

dramamama

New member
Just wanted to say I am sorry about such a devastating diagnosis. I had lung functions in the 80's and lost to 50% FEV1 bc of MAC and m. abscessus. They have never treated me because mine are very resistant and the doc at Denver and University at Texas in Tyler all agreed that it wasn't an option.

What I will say is that I have researched the LUNG Transplant thing extensively and it is still an option at certain centers. Do not give up hope! Ever! You always have options.

Get on Vitamin D3 immediately. Studies show that increased Vitamin D3 in the blood helps contain and fights the NTMs... This is something very easy to do and you should do it twice a day... at least 1000 units with a calcium/magnesium supplement.

Also, a friend in Netherlands and I both had very resistant NTMs and we both treated with colloidal silver and we both got much better. He was in the hospital for like 6 months and starting the silver and was able to be discharged.... email me and I will give you his email. I took it along with another "alternative" thing and quit culturing it altogether for more than 8 months. It is back but only sporadically and now is not as resistant...if you can believe that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> But, I gave up sugar, went on an anti-inflammatory diet, started magnesium, and started drinking green drinks (I blend vegetables in the blender to change my body and lung chemistry). Sounds like it is crazy, but I can send you my culture results to show the change it is making even now.

Also, NEVER EVER EVER let your doc put you on steroids now that you culture NTM. Our docs are a little behind in the research over here, but at The Hague the have done extensive research on this and find that steroids are a major cause in spreading of NTM. In fact, I had 8 months of clear cultures when my doc at National Jewish thought he would add a steroid burst because my white blood cell count was low.... indicating either a blood disorder or no infection.. In CF they tend to see high WBC count, so my number was strange... my dad also has low WBC and has run low all his life and I apparently just inherited that. The bottom line is the abscessus came back in the next culture two months later and it is the only thing that was changed in my treatment. My friend in the Netherlands also was told by his docs to never let a doc treat you with steroids once you culture NTM.

I wrote a paper to take to my doctor about NTMs and included research from an Israeli study that confirmed that long term ibuprofin and/or long term steroid usage preceded NTM culture in almost all cystic cases.... be very wary of how they treat you is the moral of this story.

contact if you want more info
 

dramamama

New member
Just wanted to say I am sorry about such a devastating diagnosis. I had lung functions in the 80's and lost to 50% FEV1 bc of MAC and m. abscessus. They have never treated me because mine are very resistant and the doc at Denver and University at Texas in Tyler all agreed that it wasn't an option.
<br />
<br />What I will say is that I have researched the LUNG Transplant thing extensively and it is still an option at certain centers. Do not give up hope! Ever! You always have options.
<br />
<br />Get on Vitamin D3 immediately. Studies show that increased Vitamin D3 in the blood helps contain and fights the NTMs... This is something very easy to do and you should do it twice a day... at least 1000 units with a calcium/magnesium supplement.
<br />
<br />Also, a friend in Netherlands and I both had very resistant NTMs and we both treated with colloidal silver and we both got much better. He was in the hospital for like 6 months and starting the silver and was able to be discharged.... email me and I will give you his email. I took it along with another "alternative" thing and quit culturing it altogether for more than 8 months. It is back but only sporadically and now is not as resistant...if you can believe that<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> But, I gave up sugar, went on an anti-inflammatory diet, started magnesium, and started drinking green drinks (I blend vegetables in the blender to change my body and lung chemistry). Sounds like it is crazy, but I can send you my culture results to show the change it is making even now.
<br />
<br />Also, NEVER EVER EVER let your doc put you on steroids now that you culture NTM. Our docs are a little behind in the research over here, but at The Hague the have done extensive research on this and find that steroids are a major cause in spreading of NTM. In fact, I had 8 months of clear cultures when my doc at National Jewish thought he would add a steroid burst because my white blood cell count was low.... indicating either a blood disorder or no infection.. In CF they tend to see high WBC count, so my number was strange... my dad also has low WBC and has run low all his life and I apparently just inherited that. The bottom line is the abscessus came back in the next culture two months later and it is the only thing that was changed in my treatment. My friend in the Netherlands also was told by his docs to never let a doc treat you with steroids once you culture NTM.
<br />
<br />I wrote a paper to take to my doctor about NTMs and included research from an Israeli study that confirmed that long term ibuprofin and/or long term steroid usage preceded NTM culture in almost all cystic cases.... be very wary of how they treat you is the moral of this story.
<br />
<br />contact if you want more info
 

jdubbs

New member
Hi Cerulean -
That sounds like tough news to take. I don't know much about MAC, but the good news is you feel well. Don't underestimate the significance of that. Often I get CF news and begin to extrapolate all sorts of scenarios. Try not to do what I do. It's not a problem until it actually manifests itself as a problem. Even then, the problem might not be as big as you might think. THis is all easy to say... Anyway, I sympathize. -James
 

jdubbs

New member
Hi Cerulean -
That sounds like tough news to take. I don't know much about MAC, but the good news is you feel well. Don't underestimate the significance of that. Often I get CF news and begin to extrapolate all sorts of scenarios. Try not to do what I do. It's not a problem until it actually manifests itself as a problem. Even then, the problem might not be as big as you might think. THis is all easy to say... Anyway, I sympathize. -James
 

jdubbs

New member
Hi Cerulean -
That sounds like tough news to take. I don't know much about MAC, but the good news is you feel well. Don't underestimate the significance of that. Often I get CF news and begin to extrapolate all sorts of scenarios. Try not to do what I do. It's not a problem until it actually manifests itself as a problem. Even then, the problem might not be as big as you might think. THis is all easy to say... Anyway, I sympathize. -James
 

jdubbs

New member
Hi Cerulean -
That sounds like tough news to take. I don't know much about MAC, but the good news is you feel well. Don't underestimate the significance of that. Often I get CF news and begin to extrapolate all sorts of scenarios. Try not to do what I do. It's not a problem until it actually manifests itself as a problem. Even then, the problem might not be as big as you might think. THis is all easy to say... Anyway, I sympathize. -James
 

jdubbs

New member
Hi Cerulean -
<br />That sounds like tough news to take. I don't know much about MAC, but the good news is you feel well. Don't underestimate the significance of that. Often I get CF news and begin to extrapolate all sorts of scenarios. Try not to do what I do. It's not a problem until it actually manifests itself as a problem. Even then, the problem might not be as big as you might think. THis is all easy to say... Anyway, I sympathize. -James
 

Cerulean

New member
I just wanted to take some time to thank everyone for their well wishes and the advice. There is a lot of information out there to go through, but I believe education is the key. I'm going to ask my doc more about it and why he is against treatment at this point. Perhaps he doesn't want me to culture resistant bacteria, or perhaps the regimine has a lot of side effects. I don't know at this point. I'm going to investigate further.

BTW I am like you James. I tend to blow things out of proportion, and dwell on the what ifs and the what could bes.
Thanks again all!
 

Cerulean

New member
I just wanted to take some time to thank everyone for their well wishes and the advice. There is a lot of information out there to go through, but I believe education is the key. I'm going to ask my doc more about it and why he is against treatment at this point. Perhaps he doesn't want me to culture resistant bacteria, or perhaps the regimine has a lot of side effects. I don't know at this point. I'm going to investigate further.

BTW I am like you James. I tend to blow things out of proportion, and dwell on the what ifs and the what could bes.
Thanks again all!
 

Cerulean

New member
I just wanted to take some time to thank everyone for their well wishes and the advice. There is a lot of information out there to go through, but I believe education is the key. I'm going to ask my doc more about it and why he is against treatment at this point. Perhaps he doesn't want me to culture resistant bacteria, or perhaps the regimine has a lot of side effects. I don't know at this point. I'm going to investigate further.

BTW I am like you James. I tend to blow things out of proportion, and dwell on the what ifs and the what could bes.
Thanks again all!
 

Cerulean

New member
I just wanted to take some time to thank everyone for their well wishes and the advice. There is a lot of information out there to go through, but I believe education is the key. I'm going to ask my doc more about it and why he is against treatment at this point. Perhaps he doesn't want me to culture resistant bacteria, or perhaps the regimine has a lot of side effects. I don't know at this point. I'm going to investigate further.

BTW I am like you James. I tend to blow things out of proportion, and dwell on the what ifs and the what could bes.
Thanks again all!
 

Cerulean

New member
I just wanted to take some time to thank everyone for their well wishes and the advice. There is a lot of information out there to go through, but I believe education is the key. I'm going to ask my doc more about it and why he is against treatment at this point. Perhaps he doesn't want me to culture resistant bacteria, or perhaps the regimine has a lot of side effects. I don't know at this point. I'm going to investigate further.
<br />
<br />BTW I am like you James. I tend to blow things out of proportion, and dwell on the what ifs and the what could bes.
<br />Thanks again all!
 

JennifersHope

New member
I am sorry that you got such a crude remark from Amy, I think she forgets her heart when she talks sometimes.. I know she is a lot older then Reece and Garren yet she came to the boards for understanding about her bleeds and other issues because they were upsetting to her..Victoria or Reece's mom didn't make her feel like crap..

Good for you and your Fev1 being so high.. I don't have any experience with MAC but I wanted to encourage you to get a second OP.. from someone who specializes in it.. Joni is going to Dever and getting treatment.. SHe is there now,I am sure when she see's this she will respond.

Good luck to you
 

JennifersHope

New member
I am sorry that you got such a crude remark from Amy, I think she forgets her heart when she talks sometimes.. I know she is a lot older then Reece and Garren yet she came to the boards for understanding about her bleeds and other issues because they were upsetting to her..Victoria or Reece's mom didn't make her feel like crap..

Good for you and your Fev1 being so high.. I don't have any experience with MAC but I wanted to encourage you to get a second OP.. from someone who specializes in it.. Joni is going to Dever and getting treatment.. SHe is there now,I am sure when she see's this she will respond.

Good luck to you
 

JennifersHope

New member
I am sorry that you got such a crude remark from Amy, I think she forgets her heart when she talks sometimes.. I know she is a lot older then Reece and Garren yet she came to the boards for understanding about her bleeds and other issues because they were upsetting to her..Victoria or Reece's mom didn't make her feel like crap..

Good for you and your Fev1 being so high.. I don't have any experience with MAC but I wanted to encourage you to get a second OP.. from someone who specializes in it.. Joni is going to Dever and getting treatment.. SHe is there now,I am sure when she see's this she will respond.

Good luck to you
 

JennifersHope

New member
I am sorry that you got such a crude remark from Amy, I think she forgets her heart when she talks sometimes.. I know she is a lot older then Reece and Garren yet she came to the boards for understanding about her bleeds and other issues because they were upsetting to her..Victoria or Reece's mom didn't make her feel like crap..

Good for you and your Fev1 being so high.. I don't have any experience with MAC but I wanted to encourage you to get a second OP.. from someone who specializes in it.. Joni is going to Dever and getting treatment.. SHe is there now,I am sure when she see's this she will respond.

Good luck to you
 

JennifersHope

New member
I am sorry that you got such a crude remark from Amy, I think she forgets her heart when she talks sometimes.. I know she is a lot older then Reece and Garren yet she came to the boards for understanding about her bleeds and other issues because they were upsetting to her..Victoria or Reece's mom didn't make her feel like crap..
<br />
<br />Good for you and your Fev1 being so high.. I don't have any experience with MAC but I wanted to encourage you to get a second OP.. from someone who specializes in it.. Joni is going to Dever and getting treatment.. SHe is there now,I am sure when she see's this she will respond.
<br />
<br />Good luck to you
 
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