Weird IV antibiotic problem

johannaleigh

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I agree with Wheezie, a port sounds like the best way too go. My veins were bad as well. I got to where they could not even get a pickline in me. I had built up so much scar tissue. I hope you get one. I makes things alot easier.
 

johannaleigh

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I agree with Wheezie, a port sounds like the best way too go. My veins were bad as well. I got to where they could not even get a pickline in me. I had built up so much scar tissue. I hope you get one. I makes things alot easier.
 

johannaleigh

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I agree with Wheezie, a port sounds like the best way too go. My veins were bad as well. I got to where they could not even get a pickline in me. I had built up so much scar tissue. I hope you get one. I makes things alot easier.
 

johannaleigh

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I agree with Wheezie, a port sounds like the best way too go. My veins were bad as well. I got to where they could not even get a pickline in me. I had built up so much scar tissue. I hope you get one. I makes things alot easier.
 

johannaleigh

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I agree with Wheezie, a port sounds like the best way too go. My veins were bad as well. I got to where they could not even get a pickline in me. I had built up so much scar tissue. I hope you get one. I makes things alot easier.
 

oldtimer1959

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While it sounds like typical symptoms of an infiltration, I'd be interested in knowing if this was a new ATB for you or if you had a temp at the time.

Unless I'm very ill I stay outpatient and schedule my PICC for the next day. IF I go to the docs and he puts me in it seems like it takes till around 3PM the next day anyway as the powers that be don't deem my insertion an emergency. If I am running a temp I will usually go on in.

As far as the comment about the 'electricial jolt' and numbness. MAKE THEM STOP. Any nurse putting in a perhipal IV would know those complaints are symptoms of touching a nerve or even going through a nerve bundle and stop.
This happened to me 2 years ago and the guy wouldn't stop. When I got back to the room it hurt for several hours and every bog hung would increase the pain. Of course I had to wait it out for 24 hours before they could get me back down and try again. I was in tears each bag! As I told my doc: I couldn't remember the last time I actually cried during a PICC insertion! (I think that's when he accepted the level of pain I was having - he knows I'm pretty tough and he used to do all my IVs in the pre-PICC days). Anyway, I wound up with lasting nerve damage that has fairly well resoved over time but the tips of my first two fingers on my left arm still do not have all the feeling back - makes it very hard to palpate pulses when I"m 'playing' nurse instead of doing my boring regular job in regulations.

Ports - I've had them all (I think) - Hickman, Broviac & Infusa-Port. I'm not so sure I want another unless I get to the point that I'm doing IVs more than every 6 months. I've had both a Brovia & an Infusa-Port get infected (and I got septic both times). The Broviac was because no-body (including me) thought about underwire bras and Broviacs not making good partners - or at least not when God blessed ya with a bunch. The underwire in my bra rubbed a very positional hole in the catheter that we accidently found during a blood draw. The Infusa-Port became infected (my version, but I"m sticking to it) when a home care nurse snorted and huff&puffed her way through a dressing change refusing to wear a mask (NEVER left ANYONE, including your family/spousal unit not wear a mask during the changes) and I developed a goose-egg lump around the prot a few days later that cultered MRSA (and the next sputum I also began culturing MRSA in the sputum). 2 runs of Vanco later, we finally gave up and took it out. Because it was so bad I now have a 1.5 to 2" scare that's about a 1/4" wide over my right boob. It shows anytime I wear a scoopneck or v-neck shirt. I looked into having it 'fixed' but can't classify the repair as anything but 'cosmetic' by insurance standards - so I gotta keep it. So, I don't think they are all that cool to have. But, if it came down to IVs every other month or so, I'd do it again.

I also didn't likethe fact that I had to be sedated to get one put in. Just lido me up and give me a PICC, please.
 

oldtimer1959

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While it sounds like typical symptoms of an infiltration, I'd be interested in knowing if this was a new ATB for you or if you had a temp at the time.

Unless I'm very ill I stay outpatient and schedule my PICC for the next day. IF I go to the docs and he puts me in it seems like it takes till around 3PM the next day anyway as the powers that be don't deem my insertion an emergency. If I am running a temp I will usually go on in.

As far as the comment about the 'electricial jolt' and numbness. MAKE THEM STOP. Any nurse putting in a perhipal IV would know those complaints are symptoms of touching a nerve or even going through a nerve bundle and stop.
This happened to me 2 years ago and the guy wouldn't stop. When I got back to the room it hurt for several hours and every bog hung would increase the pain. Of course I had to wait it out for 24 hours before they could get me back down and try again. I was in tears each bag! As I told my doc: I couldn't remember the last time I actually cried during a PICC insertion! (I think that's when he accepted the level of pain I was having - he knows I'm pretty tough and he used to do all my IVs in the pre-PICC days). Anyway, I wound up with lasting nerve damage that has fairly well resoved over time but the tips of my first two fingers on my left arm still do not have all the feeling back - makes it very hard to palpate pulses when I"m 'playing' nurse instead of doing my boring regular job in regulations.

Ports - I've had them all (I think) - Hickman, Broviac & Infusa-Port. I'm not so sure I want another unless I get to the point that I'm doing IVs more than every 6 months. I've had both a Brovia & an Infusa-Port get infected (and I got septic both times). The Broviac was because no-body (including me) thought about underwire bras and Broviacs not making good partners - or at least not when God blessed ya with a bunch. The underwire in my bra rubbed a very positional hole in the catheter that we accidently found during a blood draw. The Infusa-Port became infected (my version, but I"m sticking to it) when a home care nurse snorted and huff&puffed her way through a dressing change refusing to wear a mask (NEVER left ANYONE, including your family/spousal unit not wear a mask during the changes) and I developed a goose-egg lump around the prot a few days later that cultered MRSA (and the next sputum I also began culturing MRSA in the sputum). 2 runs of Vanco later, we finally gave up and took it out. Because it was so bad I now have a 1.5 to 2" scare that's about a 1/4" wide over my right boob. It shows anytime I wear a scoopneck or v-neck shirt. I looked into having it 'fixed' but can't classify the repair as anything but 'cosmetic' by insurance standards - so I gotta keep it. So, I don't think they are all that cool to have. But, if it came down to IVs every other month or so, I'd do it again.

I also didn't likethe fact that I had to be sedated to get one put in. Just lido me up and give me a PICC, please.
 

oldtimer1959

New member
While it sounds like typical symptoms of an infiltration, I'd be interested in knowing if this was a new ATB for you or if you had a temp at the time.

Unless I'm very ill I stay outpatient and schedule my PICC for the next day. IF I go to the docs and he puts me in it seems like it takes till around 3PM the next day anyway as the powers that be don't deem my insertion an emergency. If I am running a temp I will usually go on in.

As far as the comment about the 'electricial jolt' and numbness. MAKE THEM STOP. Any nurse putting in a perhipal IV would know those complaints are symptoms of touching a nerve or even going through a nerve bundle and stop.
This happened to me 2 years ago and the guy wouldn't stop. When I got back to the room it hurt for several hours and every bog hung would increase the pain. Of course I had to wait it out for 24 hours before they could get me back down and try again. I was in tears each bag! As I told my doc: I couldn't remember the last time I actually cried during a PICC insertion! (I think that's when he accepted the level of pain I was having - he knows I'm pretty tough and he used to do all my IVs in the pre-PICC days). Anyway, I wound up with lasting nerve damage that has fairly well resoved over time but the tips of my first two fingers on my left arm still do not have all the feeling back - makes it very hard to palpate pulses when I"m 'playing' nurse instead of doing my boring regular job in regulations.

Ports - I've had them all (I think) - Hickman, Broviac & Infusa-Port. I'm not so sure I want another unless I get to the point that I'm doing IVs more than every 6 months. I've had both a Brovia & an Infusa-Port get infected (and I got septic both times). The Broviac was because no-body (including me) thought about underwire bras and Broviacs not making good partners - or at least not when God blessed ya with a bunch. The underwire in my bra rubbed a very positional hole in the catheter that we accidently found during a blood draw. The Infusa-Port became infected (my version, but I"m sticking to it) when a home care nurse snorted and huff&puffed her way through a dressing change refusing to wear a mask (NEVER left ANYONE, including your family/spousal unit not wear a mask during the changes) and I developed a goose-egg lump around the prot a few days later that cultered MRSA (and the next sputum I also began culturing MRSA in the sputum). 2 runs of Vanco later, we finally gave up and took it out. Because it was so bad I now have a 1.5 to 2" scare that's about a 1/4" wide over my right boob. It shows anytime I wear a scoopneck or v-neck shirt. I looked into having it 'fixed' but can't classify the repair as anything but 'cosmetic' by insurance standards - so I gotta keep it. So, I don't think they are all that cool to have. But, if it came down to IVs every other month or so, I'd do it again.

I also didn't likethe fact that I had to be sedated to get one put in. Just lido me up and give me a PICC, please.
 

oldtimer1959

New member
While it sounds like typical symptoms of an infiltration, I'd be interested in knowing if this was a new ATB for you or if you had a temp at the time.

Unless I'm very ill I stay outpatient and schedule my PICC for the next day. IF I go to the docs and he puts me in it seems like it takes till around 3PM the next day anyway as the powers that be don't deem my insertion an emergency. If I am running a temp I will usually go on in.

As far as the comment about the 'electricial jolt' and numbness. MAKE THEM STOP. Any nurse putting in a perhipal IV would know those complaints are symptoms of touching a nerve or even going through a nerve bundle and stop.
This happened to me 2 years ago and the guy wouldn't stop. When I got back to the room it hurt for several hours and every bog hung would increase the pain. Of course I had to wait it out for 24 hours before they could get me back down and try again. I was in tears each bag! As I told my doc: I couldn't remember the last time I actually cried during a PICC insertion! (I think that's when he accepted the level of pain I was having - he knows I'm pretty tough and he used to do all my IVs in the pre-PICC days). Anyway, I wound up with lasting nerve damage that has fairly well resoved over time but the tips of my first two fingers on my left arm still do not have all the feeling back - makes it very hard to palpate pulses when I"m 'playing' nurse instead of doing my boring regular job in regulations.

Ports - I've had them all (I think) - Hickman, Broviac & Infusa-Port. I'm not so sure I want another unless I get to the point that I'm doing IVs more than every 6 months. I've had both a Brovia & an Infusa-Port get infected (and I got septic both times). The Broviac was because no-body (including me) thought about underwire bras and Broviacs not making good partners - or at least not when God blessed ya with a bunch. The underwire in my bra rubbed a very positional hole in the catheter that we accidently found during a blood draw. The Infusa-Port became infected (my version, but I"m sticking to it) when a home care nurse snorted and huff&puffed her way through a dressing change refusing to wear a mask (NEVER left ANYONE, including your family/spousal unit not wear a mask during the changes) and I developed a goose-egg lump around the prot a few days later that cultered MRSA (and the next sputum I also began culturing MRSA in the sputum). 2 runs of Vanco later, we finally gave up and took it out. Because it was so bad I now have a 1.5 to 2" scare that's about a 1/4" wide over my right boob. It shows anytime I wear a scoopneck or v-neck shirt. I looked into having it 'fixed' but can't classify the repair as anything but 'cosmetic' by insurance standards - so I gotta keep it. So, I don't think they are all that cool to have. But, if it came down to IVs every other month or so, I'd do it again.

I also didn't likethe fact that I had to be sedated to get one put in. Just lido me up and give me a PICC, please.
 

oldtimer1959

New member
While it sounds like typical symptoms of an infiltration, I'd be interested in knowing if this was a new ATB for you or if you had a temp at the time.

Unless I'm very ill I stay outpatient and schedule my PICC for the next day. IF I go to the docs and he puts me in it seems like it takes till around 3PM the next day anyway as the powers that be don't deem my insertion an emergency. If I am running a temp I will usually go on in.

As far as the comment about the 'electricial jolt' and numbness. MAKE THEM STOP. Any nurse putting in a perhipal IV would know those complaints are symptoms of touching a nerve or even going through a nerve bundle and stop.
This happened to me 2 years ago and the guy wouldn't stop. When I got back to the room it hurt for several hours and every bog hung would increase the pain. Of course I had to wait it out for 24 hours before they could get me back down and try again. I was in tears each bag! As I told my doc: I couldn't remember the last time I actually cried during a PICC insertion! (I think that's when he accepted the level of pain I was having - he knows I'm pretty tough and he used to do all my IVs in the pre-PICC days). Anyway, I wound up with lasting nerve damage that has fairly well resoved over time but the tips of my first two fingers on my left arm still do not have all the feeling back - makes it very hard to palpate pulses when I"m 'playing' nurse instead of doing my boring regular job in regulations.

Ports - I've had them all (I think) - Hickman, Broviac & Infusa-Port. I'm not so sure I want another unless I get to the point that I'm doing IVs more than every 6 months. I've had both a Brovia & an Infusa-Port get infected (and I got septic both times). The Broviac was because no-body (including me) thought about underwire bras and Broviacs not making good partners - or at least not when God blessed ya with a bunch. The underwire in my bra rubbed a very positional hole in the catheter that we accidently found during a blood draw. The Infusa-Port became infected (my version, but I"m sticking to it) when a home care nurse snorted and huff&puffed her way through a dressing change refusing to wear a mask (NEVER left ANYONE, including your family/spousal unit not wear a mask during the changes) and I developed a goose-egg lump around the prot a few days later that cultered MRSA (and the next sputum I also began culturing MRSA in the sputum). 2 runs of Vanco later, we finally gave up and took it out. Because it was so bad I now have a 1.5 to 2" scare that's about a 1/4" wide over my right boob. It shows anytime I wear a scoopneck or v-neck shirt. I looked into having it 'fixed' but can't classify the repair as anything but 'cosmetic' by insurance standards - so I gotta keep it. So, I don't think they are all that cool to have. But, if it came down to IVs every other month or so, I'd do it again.

I also didn't likethe fact that I had to be sedated to get one put in. Just lido me up and give me a PICC, please.
 

LouLou

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In my opinion our drugs are too strong to be going into veins for any amount of time. I'd decline a peripheral until they can get a PICC in. For me I'd think that level of care and abuse to your body is unacceptable. I also would refuse admission until the PICC was inserted. Granted I haven't had IVs since 2000 so maybe things have gotten redicululously slow since then.

As for suggesting a port. I think that's a bit radical of a suggestion for someone to make for you not knowing how often you need IV therapy. Maybe I missed that bit of info.

Others ? Am I out of line to feel so negative about peripherals?
 

LouLou

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In my opinion our drugs are too strong to be going into veins for any amount of time. I'd decline a peripheral until they can get a PICC in. For me I'd think that level of care and abuse to your body is unacceptable. I also would refuse admission until the PICC was inserted. Granted I haven't had IVs since 2000 so maybe things have gotten redicululously slow since then.

As for suggesting a port. I think that's a bit radical of a suggestion for someone to make for you not knowing how often you need IV therapy. Maybe I missed that bit of info.

Others ? Am I out of line to feel so negative about peripherals?
 

LouLou

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In my opinion our drugs are too strong to be going into veins for any amount of time. I'd decline a peripheral until they can get a PICC in. For me I'd think that level of care and abuse to your body is unacceptable. I also would refuse admission until the PICC was inserted. Granted I haven't had IVs since 2000 so maybe things have gotten redicululously slow since then.

As for suggesting a port. I think that's a bit radical of a suggestion for someone to make for you not knowing how often you need IV therapy. Maybe I missed that bit of info.

Others ? Am I out of line to feel so negative about peripherals?
 

LouLou

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In my opinion our drugs are too strong to be going into veins for any amount of time. I'd decline a peripheral until they can get a PICC in. For me I'd think that level of care and abuse to your body is unacceptable. I also would refuse admission until the PICC was inserted. Granted I haven't had IVs since 2000 so maybe things have gotten redicululously slow since then.

As for suggesting a port. I think that's a bit radical of a suggestion for someone to make for you not knowing how often you need IV therapy. Maybe I missed that bit of info.

Others ? Am I out of line to feel so negative about peripherals?
 

LouLou

New member
In my opinion our drugs are too strong to be going into veins for any amount of time. I'd decline a peripheral until they can get a PICC in. For me I'd think that level of care and abuse to your body is unacceptable. I also would refuse admission until the PICC was inserted. Granted I haven't had IVs since 2000 so maybe things have gotten redicululously slow since then.

As for suggesting a port. I think that's a bit radical of a suggestion for someone to make for you not knowing how often you need IV therapy. Maybe I missed that bit of info.

Others ? Am I out of line to feel so negative about peripherals?
 

nick9742

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I am definitely going to decline a peripheral next time til a PICC can be put in. It's usually the next morning by 10am so the wait isn't long.

And as for the person asking if they were new ATB, none of them were. They are all my original "tuneup" meds that I've gotten for years. That's why the only thing I could place it to was the actual IV itself. I didn't have a temperature at that time, it was kind of low actually..96.9 I think. I checked to make sure that the meds weren't cold and they were room temperature. It really doesn't even feel just like "cold medicine" going in, it feels like I'm standing in a freezer and my whole body, outside and in, is so cold. Wrapping up in several heated blankets is the only thing that can give me a bit of warmth. I don't know what all was going on, but it was freaking me out.

I've considered a port somewhat recently...I usually go in the hospital every 4-5 months regularly so I didn't know if this would be considered enough to make a port something practical over just getting that PICC for a couple of weeks. I've heard a lot of negative things about them and also some positive so I've just sort of been on the fence about it.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I will just wait on PICC lines from now on unless I start considering a port. No more peripherals for me.
 

nick9742

New member
I am definitely going to decline a peripheral next time til a PICC can be put in. It's usually the next morning by 10am so the wait isn't long.

And as for the person asking if they were new ATB, none of them were. They are all my original "tuneup" meds that I've gotten for years. That's why the only thing I could place it to was the actual IV itself. I didn't have a temperature at that time, it was kind of low actually..96.9 I think. I checked to make sure that the meds weren't cold and they were room temperature. It really doesn't even feel just like "cold medicine" going in, it feels like I'm standing in a freezer and my whole body, outside and in, is so cold. Wrapping up in several heated blankets is the only thing that can give me a bit of warmth. I don't know what all was going on, but it was freaking me out.

I've considered a port somewhat recently...I usually go in the hospital every 4-5 months regularly so I didn't know if this would be considered enough to make a port something practical over just getting that PICC for a couple of weeks. I've heard a lot of negative things about them and also some positive so I've just sort of been on the fence about it.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I will just wait on PICC lines from now on unless I start considering a port. No more peripherals for me.
 

nick9742

New member
I am definitely going to decline a peripheral next time til a PICC can be put in. It's usually the next morning by 10am so the wait isn't long.

And as for the person asking if they were new ATB, none of them were. They are all my original "tuneup" meds that I've gotten for years. That's why the only thing I could place it to was the actual IV itself. I didn't have a temperature at that time, it was kind of low actually..96.9 I think. I checked to make sure that the meds weren't cold and they were room temperature. It really doesn't even feel just like "cold medicine" going in, it feels like I'm standing in a freezer and my whole body, outside and in, is so cold. Wrapping up in several heated blankets is the only thing that can give me a bit of warmth. I don't know what all was going on, but it was freaking me out.

I've considered a port somewhat recently...I usually go in the hospital every 4-5 months regularly so I didn't know if this would be considered enough to make a port something practical over just getting that PICC for a couple of weeks. I've heard a lot of negative things about them and also some positive so I've just sort of been on the fence about it.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I will just wait on PICC lines from now on unless I start considering a port. No more peripherals for me.
 

nick9742

New member
I am definitely going to decline a peripheral next time til a PICC can be put in. It's usually the next morning by 10am so the wait isn't long.

And as for the person asking if they were new ATB, none of them were. They are all my original "tuneup" meds that I've gotten for years. That's why the only thing I could place it to was the actual IV itself. I didn't have a temperature at that time, it was kind of low actually..96.9 I think. I checked to make sure that the meds weren't cold and they were room temperature. It really doesn't even feel just like "cold medicine" going in, it feels like I'm standing in a freezer and my whole body, outside and in, is so cold. Wrapping up in several heated blankets is the only thing that can give me a bit of warmth. I don't know what all was going on, but it was freaking me out.

I've considered a port somewhat recently...I usually go in the hospital every 4-5 months regularly so I didn't know if this would be considered enough to make a port something practical over just getting that PICC for a couple of weeks. I've heard a lot of negative things about them and also some positive so I've just sort of been on the fence about it.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I will just wait on PICC lines from now on unless I start considering a port. No more peripherals for me.
 

nick9742

New member
I am definitely going to decline a peripheral next time til a PICC can be put in. It's usually the next morning by 10am so the wait isn't long.

And as for the person asking if they were new ATB, none of them were. They are all my original "tuneup" meds that I've gotten for years. That's why the only thing I could place it to was the actual IV itself. I didn't have a temperature at that time, it was kind of low actually..96.9 I think. I checked to make sure that the meds weren't cold and they were room temperature. It really doesn't even feel just like "cold medicine" going in, it feels like I'm standing in a freezer and my whole body, outside and in, is so cold. Wrapping up in several heated blankets is the only thing that can give me a bit of warmth. I don't know what all was going on, but it was freaking me out.

I've considered a port somewhat recently...I usually go in the hospital every 4-5 months regularly so I didn't know if this would be considered enough to make a port something practical over just getting that PICC for a couple of weeks. I've heard a lot of negative things about them and also some positive so I've just sort of been on the fence about it.

Anyway, thanks for all the suggestions. I will just wait on PICC lines from now on unless I start considering a port. No more peripherals for me.
 
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