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randford

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Recently, the CF doctor diagnosed me with having Staphylococcus, although the levels are low. She said that the environment is not yet suitible for hosting Pseudomonas but that could change.

Are both bacteria basically the same or is one worse than the other?

Randford, 44/CF/Osteo
 
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randford

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Recently, the CF doctor diagnosed me with having Staphylococcus, although the levels are low. She said that the environment is not yet suitible for hosting Pseudomonas but that could change.

Are both bacteria basically the same or is one worse than the other?

Randford, 44/CF/Osteo
 
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randford

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Recently, the CF doctor diagnosed me with having Staphylococcus, although the levels are low. She said that the environment is not yet suitible for hosting Pseudomonas but that could change.

Are both bacteria basically the same or is one worse than the other?

Randford, 44/CF/Osteo
 
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Emily65Roses

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I would put them in roughly the same category. I've cultured 2 or 3 different pseudomonas(es?) and one of staph at the same time since I was 16 years old. I might say the pseudomonas is worse, because it talks to other pseudomonas and says "Hey, this is an awesome place to set up camp, come visit." But they're in the same general area, in my opinion.

I imagine Amy might be able to answer that better than I can.

The real nasty ones that they tell you to look out for are MRSA and Burkholderia cepacia, generally. And even those can be lived around for some time, depending on the strain, your environment, your medical care, etc etc etc. (I myself have had MRSA since I was 16, and it hasn't caused too much trouble).
 
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Emily65Roses

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I would put them in roughly the same category. I've cultured 2 or 3 different pseudomonas(es?) and one of staph at the same time since I was 16 years old. I might say the pseudomonas is worse, because it talks to other pseudomonas and says "Hey, this is an awesome place to set up camp, come visit." But they're in the same general area, in my opinion.

I imagine Amy might be able to answer that better than I can.

The real nasty ones that they tell you to look out for are MRSA and Burkholderia cepacia, generally. And even those can be lived around for some time, depending on the strain, your environment, your medical care, etc etc etc. (I myself have had MRSA since I was 16, and it hasn't caused too much trouble).
 
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Emily65Roses

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I would put them in roughly the same category. I've cultured 2 or 3 different pseudomonas(es?) and one of staph at the same time since I was 16 years old. I might say the pseudomonas is worse, because it talks to other pseudomonas and says "Hey, this is an awesome place to set up camp, come visit." But they're in the same general area, in my opinion.

I imagine Amy might be able to answer that better than I can.

The real nasty ones that they tell you to look out for are MRSA and Burkholderia cepacia, generally. And even those can be lived around for some time, depending on the strain, your environment, your medical care, etc etc etc. (I myself have had MRSA since I was 16, and it hasn't caused too much trouble).
 
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randford

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Emily65Roses,

Thanks for the info. I guess they can both reside in the same environment after all. I was so scared that I gave my Nephew pseudomonas. He died at 15 from CF. pseudomonas found a path to his brain and caused a brain abscess. But the doctor said that it didn't happen that way. She said that he could have given it to me yet it deos not show up in my lungs right now. But I am glad to know that both can survive together in the same enviroment. I'll watch out for it.

Many thanks.

Randford

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

I would put them in roughly the same category. I've cultured 2 or 3 different pseudomonas(es?) and one of staph at the same time since I was 16 years old. I might say the pseudomonas is worse, because it talks to other pseudomonas and says "Hey, this is an awesome place to set up camp, come visit." But they're in the same general area, in my opinion.



I imagine Amy might be able to answer that better than I can.



The real nasty ones that they tell you to look out for are MRSA and Burkholderia cepacia, generally. And even those can be lived around for some time, depending on the strain, your environment, your medical care, etc etc etc. (I myself have had MRSA since I was 16, and it hasn't caused too much trouble).</end quote></div>
 
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randford

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Emily65Roses,

Thanks for the info. I guess they can both reside in the same environment after all. I was so scared that I gave my Nephew pseudomonas. He died at 15 from CF. pseudomonas found a path to his brain and caused a brain abscess. But the doctor said that it didn't happen that way. She said that he could have given it to me yet it deos not show up in my lungs right now. But I am glad to know that both can survive together in the same enviroment. I'll watch out for it.

Many thanks.

Randford

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

I would put them in roughly the same category. I've cultured 2 or 3 different pseudomonas(es?) and one of staph at the same time since I was 16 years old. I might say the pseudomonas is worse, because it talks to other pseudomonas and says "Hey, this is an awesome place to set up camp, come visit." But they're in the same general area, in my opinion.



I imagine Amy might be able to answer that better than I can.



The real nasty ones that they tell you to look out for are MRSA and Burkholderia cepacia, generally. And even those can be lived around for some time, depending on the strain, your environment, your medical care, etc etc etc. (I myself have had MRSA since I was 16, and it hasn't caused too much trouble).</end quote></div>
 
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randford

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Emily65Roses,

Thanks for the info. I guess they can both reside in the same environment after all. I was so scared that I gave my Nephew pseudomonas. He died at 15 from CF. pseudomonas found a path to his brain and caused a brain abscess. But the doctor said that it didn't happen that way. She said that he could have given it to me yet it deos not show up in my lungs right now. But I am glad to know that both can survive together in the same enviroment. I'll watch out for it.

Many thanks.

Randford

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

I would put them in roughly the same category. I've cultured 2 or 3 different pseudomonas(es?) and one of staph at the same time since I was 16 years old. I might say the pseudomonas is worse, because it talks to other pseudomonas and says "Hey, this is an awesome place to set up camp, come visit." But they're in the same general area, in my opinion.



I imagine Amy might be able to answer that better than I can.



The real nasty ones that they tell you to look out for are MRSA and Burkholderia cepacia, generally. And even those can be lived around for some time, depending on the strain, your environment, your medical care, etc etc etc. (I myself have had MRSA since I was 16, and it hasn't caused too much trouble).</end quote></div>
 
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coltsfan715

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I culture both MRSA/Staphlococcus Aereus AND Psuedomonas Aeurginosa.

I have cultured Psuedo for as long as I can recall and started culturing MRSA at the age of about 15 or 16. It varies sometimes I culture Staph sometimes it is classified as MRSA - just depends on the time.

I have asked the doc about them and he said at the time (being a few years ago) that Psuedo was a more virulent bacteria. It spread faster - kind of fanned out and sometimes made Staph hard to detect because it had a somewhat flashpan effect. Psuedo he said for that reason seems to cause more damage than MRSA/Staph because it spreads so much faster.

MRSA/Staph however can cause just as many problems if it is spreading and the bacteria are growing in numbers. The hard part comes with MRSA because there are fewer drugs to treat it with and you have to be careful to not let it get out of control - with only having a few resources (med wise) to treat it. Typically though the doc told me that Staph does not spread/multiply/reproduce (whatever the proper term) at as fast a rate as Psuedo.

I may be wrong on that, but that is what my doc told me years ago when I asked.

* Also the comment about not many resources to treat it was geared towards MRSA - not just basic Staph bacteria.

Take Care,
Lindsey
 
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coltsfan715

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I culture both MRSA/Staphlococcus Aereus AND Psuedomonas Aeurginosa.

I have cultured Psuedo for as long as I can recall and started culturing MRSA at the age of about 15 or 16. It varies sometimes I culture Staph sometimes it is classified as MRSA - just depends on the time.

I have asked the doc about them and he said at the time (being a few years ago) that Psuedo was a more virulent bacteria. It spread faster - kind of fanned out and sometimes made Staph hard to detect because it had a somewhat flashpan effect. Psuedo he said for that reason seems to cause more damage than MRSA/Staph because it spreads so much faster.

MRSA/Staph however can cause just as many problems if it is spreading and the bacteria are growing in numbers. The hard part comes with MRSA because there are fewer drugs to treat it with and you have to be careful to not let it get out of control - with only having a few resources (med wise) to treat it. Typically though the doc told me that Staph does not spread/multiply/reproduce (whatever the proper term) at as fast a rate as Psuedo.

I may be wrong on that, but that is what my doc told me years ago when I asked.

* Also the comment about not many resources to treat it was geared towards MRSA - not just basic Staph bacteria.

Take Care,
Lindsey
 
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coltsfan715

New member
I culture both MRSA/Staphlococcus Aereus AND Psuedomonas Aeurginosa.

I have cultured Psuedo for as long as I can recall and started culturing MRSA at the age of about 15 or 16. It varies sometimes I culture Staph sometimes it is classified as MRSA - just depends on the time.

I have asked the doc about them and he said at the time (being a few years ago) that Psuedo was a more virulent bacteria. It spread faster - kind of fanned out and sometimes made Staph hard to detect because it had a somewhat flashpan effect. Psuedo he said for that reason seems to cause more damage than MRSA/Staph because it spreads so much faster.

MRSA/Staph however can cause just as many problems if it is spreading and the bacteria are growing in numbers. The hard part comes with MRSA because there are fewer drugs to treat it with and you have to be careful to not let it get out of control - with only having a few resources (med wise) to treat it. Typically though the doc told me that Staph does not spread/multiply/reproduce (whatever the proper term) at as fast a rate as Psuedo.

I may be wrong on that, but that is what my doc told me years ago when I asked.

* Also the comment about not many resources to treat it was geared towards MRSA - not just basic Staph bacteria.

Take Care,
Lindsey
 
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MCGrad2006

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I second what everyone else has said. In addition, if you have both MRSA and PA like me (and many others), you have to be even more careful. A lot of times if you are treating just one of them say PA...and those numbers get down real low, sometimes the MRSA can begin to act up a lot. The little MRSA bugs realize that there is more 'room' in your lungs for infection, so they tend to take over (and vice versa). Thats why it is so much harder to control when you have more than one or also two bugs.

And like Lindsey said, there are so few meds to treat MRSA that it gets really hard once that begins to flare up. I was put on one med to treat it because my other oral abx wasnt cutting it and I still ended up on IV's.

Hopefully all this is info isnt too ovrewhelming and hopefull it helps!
 
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MCGrad2006

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I second what everyone else has said. In addition, if you have both MRSA and PA like me (and many others), you have to be even more careful. A lot of times if you are treating just one of them say PA...and those numbers get down real low, sometimes the MRSA can begin to act up a lot. The little MRSA bugs realize that there is more 'room' in your lungs for infection, so they tend to take over (and vice versa). Thats why it is so much harder to control when you have more than one or also two bugs.

And like Lindsey said, there are so few meds to treat MRSA that it gets really hard once that begins to flare up. I was put on one med to treat it because my other oral abx wasnt cutting it and I still ended up on IV's.

Hopefully all this is info isnt too ovrewhelming and hopefull it helps!
 
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MCGrad2006

Guest
I second what everyone else has said. In addition, if you have both MRSA and PA like me (and many others), you have to be even more careful. A lot of times if you are treating just one of them say PA...and those numbers get down real low, sometimes the MRSA can begin to act up a lot. The little MRSA bugs realize that there is more 'room' in your lungs for infection, so they tend to take over (and vice versa). Thats why it is so much harder to control when you have more than one or also two bugs.

And like Lindsey said, there are so few meds to treat MRSA that it gets really hard once that begins to flare up. I was put on one med to treat it because my other oral abx wasnt cutting it and I still ended up on IV's.

Hopefully all this is info isnt too ovrewhelming and hopefull it helps!
 
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Lilith

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I have both, but the staph is what gives me the most trouble. As for which is statistically worse...I believe they're about the same.
 
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Lilith

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I have both, but the staph is what gives me the most trouble. As for which is statistically worse...I believe they're about the same.
 
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