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anonymous

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I just skimmed the above, could barely read it. There were NO side effects, such as increased chance of hemoptysis?
 

NoExcuses

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The studies were geared towards efficacy, not safety. But safety is determined by the medicine used, not the device. The eFlow consistently produces particles in a respirable size dose. Those sizes appear in current compressors now, but not as frequently therefore the delivery takes longer.

So if you're looking for side effect profiles, i would refer you to the prescribing information of the drug. The eFlow isn't producing anything different than what your lungs have already experienced through other compressors. It just does so more efficiently.
 

NoExcuses

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The studies were geared towards efficacy, not safety. But safety is determined by the medicine used, not the device. The eFlow consistently produces particles in a respirable size dose. Those sizes appear in current compressors now, but not as frequently therefore the delivery takes longer.

So if you're looking for side effect profiles, i would refer you to the prescribing information of the drug. The eFlow isn't producing anything different than what your lungs have already experienced through other compressors. It just does so more efficiently.
 

NoExcuses

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The studies were geared towards efficacy, not safety. But safety is determined by the medicine used, not the device. The eFlow consistently produces particles in a respirable size dose. Those sizes appear in current compressors now, but not as frequently therefore the delivery takes longer.

So if you're looking for side effect profiles, i would refer you to the prescribing information of the drug. The eFlow isn't producing anything different than what your lungs have already experienced through other compressors. It just does so more efficiently.
 

Ender

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You think it's safe to assume that if it works for one such device, it will work for another?
 

Ender

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You think it's safe to assume that if it works for one such device, it will work for another?
 

Ender

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You think it's safe to assume that if it works for one such device, it will work for another?
 

jfarel

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Ya, I did read the studies Amy, but didn't remember. I also did know the Pari Neb's and compressor's were not tested w/ Tobi.

Geez, I wish I was as smart as you. lol
 

jfarel

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Ya, I did read the studies Amy, but didn't remember. I also did know the Pari Neb's and compressor's were not tested w/ Tobi.

Geez, I wish I was as smart as you. lol
 

jfarel

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Ya, I did read the studies Amy, but didn't remember. I also did know the Pari Neb's and compressor's were not tested w/ Tobi.

Geez, I wish I was as smart as you. lol
 

jfarel

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Ender</b></i>

You think it's safe to assume that if it works for one such device, it will work for another?</end quote></div>

Our resident Doctor Amy will take that question I hope.
 

jfarel

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Ender</b></i>

You think it's safe to assume that if it works for one such device, it will work for another?</end quote></div>

Our resident Doctor Amy will take that question I hope.
 

jfarel

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Ender</b></i>

You think it's safe to assume that if it works for one such device, it will work for another?</end quote></div>

Our resident Doctor Amy will take that question I hope.
 
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2perfectboys

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I know it puts a lot of people in an insecure place to challenge their physicians. It's much more comfortable to go through life believing that your physician is 100% up to date on everything, and everything he/she tells you is 100% fact.


Amy, wow, u r so right, your physicians can never tell u 100%fact, just someproven medical data and many of educated guesses. Parnets u listen and ask for doctors input but u know your children better than any doctor can, and u know what works and doesn't work for your child. The problem with the EFLOW is that if u don't get some of your meds specifically doses for the eflow u could be overdosing and causing more problems in the long run. Tobi is a great example of this. We were given the green light to use the eflow because we were only going to pulmozyme and occasionaly Hypertonic Saline and our doctor said both of these are safe, even if u get a little extra of the drug.

The bottom line is this machine is more of a convience thing. It's quicker, more convienet and def quiter, so it's worth it for us, but as far as it being a God send for CF, NO, could get the same results from any nebulizer, so I think it is a personal choice if u want one or not, We have it and love it, but it's not doing anything better for the lungs than anyother nebulizer
 
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2perfectboys

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I know it puts a lot of people in an insecure place to challenge their physicians. It's much more comfortable to go through life believing that your physician is 100% up to date on everything, and everything he/she tells you is 100% fact.


Amy, wow, u r so right, your physicians can never tell u 100%fact, just someproven medical data and many of educated guesses. Parnets u listen and ask for doctors input but u know your children better than any doctor can, and u know what works and doesn't work for your child. The problem with the EFLOW is that if u don't get some of your meds specifically doses for the eflow u could be overdosing and causing more problems in the long run. Tobi is a great example of this. We were given the green light to use the eflow because we were only going to pulmozyme and occasionaly Hypertonic Saline and our doctor said both of these are safe, even if u get a little extra of the drug.

The bottom line is this machine is more of a convience thing. It's quicker, more convienet and def quiter, so it's worth it for us, but as far as it being a God send for CF, NO, could get the same results from any nebulizer, so I think it is a personal choice if u want one or not, We have it and love it, but it's not doing anything better for the lungs than anyother nebulizer
 
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2perfectboys

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I know it puts a lot of people in an insecure place to challenge their physicians. It's much more comfortable to go through life believing that your physician is 100% up to date on everything, and everything he/she tells you is 100% fact.


Amy, wow, u r so right, your physicians can never tell u 100%fact, just someproven medical data and many of educated guesses. Parnets u listen and ask for doctors input but u know your children better than any doctor can, and u know what works and doesn't work for your child. The problem with the EFLOW is that if u don't get some of your meds specifically doses for the eflow u could be overdosing and causing more problems in the long run. Tobi is a great example of this. We were given the green light to use the eflow because we were only going to pulmozyme and occasionaly Hypertonic Saline and our doctor said both of these are safe, even if u get a little extra of the drug.

The bottom line is this machine is more of a convience thing. It's quicker, more convienet and def quiter, so it's worth it for us, but as far as it being a God send for CF, NO, could get the same results from any nebulizer, so I think it is a personal choice if u want one or not, We have it and love it, but it's not doing anything better for the lungs than anyother nebulizer
 

NoExcuses

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jfarel</b></i>

Ya, I did read the studies Amy, but didn't remember. I also did know the Pari Neb's and compressor's were not tested w/ Tobi.



Geez, I wish I was as smart as you. lol</end quote></div>

OK the only goal of the majority of the studies was to measure serum concentrations and sputum enzyme levels. This was the only point of the studies.

So it just took me by surprise that the one point of the studies, the one and only point, you didn't recall. That's the only reason I questioned whether or not you read them.

It has nothing to do with intelligence. I was just confused by the contradiction of your comments
 
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