All you "cool" people

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ccflewallen

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I think the individual who is looking for cool people is finding them. Well, guess what? He is really in the norm. From my experiences, and I try to keep up with CF, people with CF are generally frustrated, depressed, and do many of the things that most everyone else does.

The ones refrenced to as people who keep others in their prayers I have found are usually parents or older CFers who are through with caring about being "HIP". If you have CF and it affects you very much, then you cannot and I do mean cannot smoke anything, let alone "POT". That is very UNadult behavior. Having an "I don't care" attitude is normal for CFers, but unfortunate. But just like people without CF, we have to grow up and realize what is really important and what priorities are. Don't be self centered just because you have a disease.

I don't smoke pot because I have sense enough to know better, I do not cuss because it's rude and because I am not 16 years old, I do know a few Clash songs only because my wife introduced me to them. I was very "popular" in school and never participated in any of the things mentioned by this individual. So get off it!!!
 
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NoDayButToday

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I agree that smoking pot is kind of foolish when you have CF... particularly if you have more severe lung involvement. I have never experimented with any drugs because I know my health would suffer for it, and so I plan not to ever. However, I think that for CFers who were healthier in their teens than I am now, it can be expected for them to experiment.
 
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ccflewallen

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For future reference:
I posted this message in response to "notacrook" and his posted message about where all the "hip" cfers were.
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Mockingbird

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I think the general concensus on that thread is we are who we are and that's all we need to be. =-) You did bring up a very good point that the groups people notacrook put down really don't deserve it. Something about moms with kitty sweaters, or something like that. There's absolutely nothing wrong with moms who dress their children in kitty sweaters. =-) But at the same time notacrook is a person herself with her own personality, and while she has no right to look down on other people, other people don't have any right to look down on her..... (Is notacrook a boy or a girl? Erm, well, sorry about the gender confusion, whoever you are. =-)

Anyway, I'm pretty sure everyone here agrees being a poser isn't what makes you cool. heh, most the poeple here don't give a crap about being cool. The people who responded were simply saying "this is who I am" That's all. =-)
 
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Lilith

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Just for the record, I responded to notacrook's post simply to say that I do similar things that he/she must obviously like. I think that he/she is just looking for individuals with similar tastes, that's all. I don't really see how she's "putting anyone down". Sometimes kitty sweaters are a good thing if that's what floats your boat, but I, too, get in moods where cutesy stuff just doesn't cut it and I need something with a little more edge. I think that all notacrook was trying to say was that he/she's looking to see what some of the other CF'ers really do behind the so-called 'social mask' as I like to call it. "We all must be good little boys and girls to put up with the stuff we have to." I know I've gotten that a lot, along with how sweet of a girl I am (hence part of the reason for the whole "kitty sweater" thing, I believe). Just because I have a disease doesn't mean I'm sweet! In fact, most times I can be a short-tempered flaming b**ch! Some people don't see us as regular people, and think that our life centers around our disease, but many can attest that that simply isn't true, and that yes, we do things like "normal" people do. Mostly on this site, the topics have to do with the disease itself. I understand that, duh, this is a forum about CF and many posts have to do with dealing with the rather not-so-nice aspects of the disease, but it's nice to move away from that and have a discussion about people in general, not what they have to deal with. I think that's all notacrook was trying to do, and in that aspect I agree with him/her.

If this isn't making any sense to anyone (because I tend to ramble), sorry. I guess this kind of turned into somewhat of a rant. But just the same, I don't think you should view notacrook as a biased person. I don't think that would be fair.

As for the whole pot thing, let it go. I really don't want to see a huge debate about that here. People will do what they want if they can, and that's all. Don't bash on someone for it, regardless of your opinion.<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif" border="0">
 
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Mockingbird

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One last thing, you're starting to get on my nerves. Self-righteousness isn't an admirable trait. I'm not only talking about this thread, but others as well. Take your own advice and get off it.
 
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anonymous

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Self-righteousness? Gimme a break! All I'm saying is that it's going to start a war, but you seem to an instigator when it comes to that... And as far as getting on your nerves, then don't read my posts! Simple as that!!
 
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HollyCatheryn

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You're right. It is about being who you are - really, not who you think it might be cool to be, or who you think it would be a drag to be. I had very little lung involvement as a teen (and still do at 26). I did some crazy teen things like cliff diving, staying out all night. I drank rarely, I think I smoked one cigarette to piss off someone and never did anything harder than that. I have done some growing up - hopefully a lot. But, I have to say that at this point it isn't so much that I'm NOT cool as much as that I don't care if I am or not. I also have learned that cool is VERY subjective and there are as many people who think I'm cool as who think I am not. I am a full-time mom, wife, violin teacher, singer, website owner, researcher, student, have numerous piercings and a couple of nice tattoos (one of which I got since getting married). I like to make my own bread and sew. I am thrilled to have given birth at home and been able to breastfeed my daughter. I don't like to show much skin, full-coverage tank tops and capri pants are daring to me. I like my natural hair color now that I know what it is HA! I love dressing my daughter in cute matching things and doing her hair. I don't drink anymore, except for the occassional celebration margarita. My idea of a party is BBQing and having extended family over to hang out. I live with my husband's family and like it. I like to dress nicely and get to bed before midnight when I can. I also like naps. I am diligent about my treatments and have given up other things to be able to do them regularly and add physical exercise to my days - even though my lung function is still high. So, hey, that's who I am and if you think that's cool great. But, I think it's cool that I like who I am and don't feel the NEED to be thought cool.
 
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ccflewallen

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I am wondering if no one wants to talk about smoking pot because they dont like being told they cant do something because of having CF? When I said that, I was talking about everybody whether they have CF or whether they are perfectly healthy. Just because people are going to do what ever they want doesnt mean that there is nothing wrong with it. Thats not being judgemental. Thats stating a fact. Some things are right and some things are wrong. I mess up every day just like every one else and when I called out on it, well then thats my fault. Now, to say that someone is "bad" or a "bad person" is a different story. No one is righteous, "no, not one". Another thing; much or most messages on these forums are opinion oriented, so why would someone take things like this from people they dont know and get so defensive. If you agree with someone, good. If not, well thats fine to. Getting angry isn't going to make a difference. Oh, and one more thing. Not only is smoking pot wrong, but so is getting drunk; in fact that might be worse. Until next time,

Chris
 
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Mockingbird

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Lilith</b></i><br>That was me. Forgot to login.<hr></blockquote>


Wasn't talking to you. =-)
 
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Mockingbird

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>ccflewallen</b></i><br>I am wondering if no one wants to talk about smoking pot because they dont like being told they cant do something because of having CF? When I said that, I was talking about everybody whether they have CF or whether they are perfectly healthy. Just because people are going to do what ever they want doesnt mean that there is nothing wrong with it. Thats not being judgemental. Thats stating a fact. Some things are right and some things are wrong. I mess up every day just like every one else and when I called out on it, well then thats my fault. Now, to say that someone is "bad" or a "bad person" is a different story. No one is righteous, "no, not one". Another thing; much or most messages on these forums are opinion oriented, so why would someone take things like this from people they dont know and get so defensive. If you agree with someone, good. If not, well thats fine to. Getting angry isn't going to make a difference. Oh, and one more thing. Not only is smoking pot wrong, but so is getting drunk; in fact that might be worse. Until next time,



Chris<hr></blockquote>


Ha ha, I'm sorry. i didn't realize I was talking to the king of right and wrong. And yes, you are acting self-righteous. Every time you post it reeks of it. I cannot stand arrogance, and whenever I see it it pisses me off. if that's wrong, then too damn bad.

And by the way, this is more than just a disagreement. In fact, i agree with a lot of stuff you say, i just don't agree with how you say it; whatever your opinions are don't make a damn bit of difference in this instance; it's the way you treat other people. Make sense? i've actually been nice until now, just because you're new here. My first instinct was to rip into you from the very beginning, but I figured I'd give you the benefit of the doubt in that maybe you're not as high-and-mighty as your posts make you sound, but I can't deny that any longer.
 
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ccflewallen

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king of right and wrong? that makes absolutely no sense at all. Are you saying perhaps you dont think there is a difference between right and wrong? You are pretty clear when you jump down someones throat. Could you be more specific in your posts. Stop getting so angry at me over these silly messages. Like I said, it gets you no where but angry. It looks as you are one of those that is as nice as you can be to people as long as they dont cross you the wrong way, but watch out if you get mad. I apoligize in advance if I am wrong, but that is the way you are coming across. Yes, one of my faults is that I talk to much and I try to "sound" professional even though I am lousy at it lol. However, let me say that that nothing I have I said do I claim to be factual. Ever heard "no pun intended". Stop wearing your feelings on your sleeve.

ccflewallen
 
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Emily65Roses

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"king of right and wrong? that makes absolutely no sense at all. Are you saying perhaps you dont think there is a difference between right and wrong?"
I thought it was very clear. He's saying that you think you're the one in charge of deciding what's right and wrong... and what anyone else thinks is irrelevant.

And it's not important, but I like Jarod, even if he does wear his emotions on is sleeve (since when was that a bad thing??). <img src="i/expressions/heart.gif" border="0">
 
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ccflewallen

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This is not a debatable issue so I am dropping the "right or wrong issue". No I am not in charge of it, but someone is. People can choose to think that right and wrong is up to each individual if they want. We do not control each other. Not saying that is what you guys think so dont jump down my throat, but many do think that way.
 
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ccflewallen

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just my opinion, but if it is up to each individual and we shouldn't say whether anything is right or wrong, why do we have laws and regulations and rules? Why is Saddam Hussein in prison? He probably didn't think he was doing anything wrong by killing people. It was their way of doing things. When I was in school, in math, I could come up with the right answer, but get it wrong because the teacher says I didn't get the answer the right way. These are simple and maybe exaggerated examples, but they show that there is a difference. I am willing to listen if you want to discuss further,

ccflewallen
 
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Emily65Roses

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That's the thing, the more extreme stuff is the stuff that isn't really debateable. But murder is sometimes okay... if someone is attacking you or your spouse or child, and the only way to save your loved ones is by killing them, I say murder in that case is okay. It changes from one specific situation to the next. And what is okay to some people isn't okay to others, is all I meant. I think abortion is okay, many people do not. I think assisted suicide in some cases (like end stage CF, end stage cancer, end stage AIDS, etc) is okay, many people do not. I don't really think smoking is okay (if nothing else because it makes NO sense whatsoever), and many people do. And I'm not about to tell other people that because these are the things *I* think, that they are the only way to go about things.
 
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Mockingbird

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Erm, i see the distinction. math is black and white. I've always thought everything else should be seen in shades of grey, though. As far as Saddam hussein goes, I really don't trust he's the monster that we've been told he is. In fact, i don't trust i know anything about him at all, so whether we should be persecuting him or not isn't a question I can answer.

Ha ha, and I juft found out I missed an entire disscussion right in the middle there. Thank, Emily! And I agree, why shouldn't I wear your emotions on your sleeve? Would you perfer me to act nice with you, then whisper poison behind your back? =-) Of course I know that's not what you meant. you're saying I should think before I open my mouth and act rationally. There's nothing wrong with that either, but for me i feel better showing my passion, even if it makes me look like an idiot.
 
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