Anti-inflammatory diet

Foody

New member
AMEN and all that jazz!! Food choices are the single greatest thing we can do for our health or that of our children. It is also so sad to me that physicians know little to nothing about this area...even nutritionists who supposedly study food and it's affects on the body, provide little to no help in CF clinics (although you can consult with others). It is so confusing as a parent new to this disease and a true disservice to the CF community that they are still making recommendations which include sugar and hydrogenated fats as the mainstay of weight gain. Can they not use their smarts and imagination to provide real whole food based solutions? Thank you all for sharing your discoveries as adults, because it speaks louder to me as a parent than much of what I hear at clinic. It really encourages me to stick to my intuition.

We need a CFF equivalent which studies nutrtion, supplements and complimentary care. An organization which could bridge the gap and get it into the clinic setting. Wouldn't that be something to have a naturopath, accupuncturist, chiropractor and massage therapist (plus others) available at every clinic in America? How much could this change CF and disease progression?

Just dreaming...but maybe...
 

Foody

New member
AMEN and all that jazz!! Food choices are the single greatest thing we can do for our health or that of our children. It is also so sad to me that physicians know little to nothing about this area...even nutritionists who supposedly study food and it's affects on the body, provide little to no help in CF clinics (although you can consult with others). It is so confusing as a parent new to this disease and a true disservice to the CF community that they are still making recommendations which include sugar and hydrogenated fats as the mainstay of weight gain. Can they not use their smarts and imagination to provide real whole food based solutions? Thank you all for sharing your discoveries as adults, because it speaks louder to me as a parent than much of what I hear at clinic. It really encourages me to stick to my intuition.

We need a CFF equivalent which studies nutrtion, supplements and complimentary care. An organization which could bridge the gap and get it into the clinic setting. Wouldn't that be something to have a naturopath, accupuncturist, chiropractor and massage therapist (plus others) available at every clinic in America? How much could this change CF and disease progression?

Just dreaming...but maybe...
 

PeterC

New member
Jody:

You are right and I support your ideas completely!!!

In my experience the nutritional information we are given at clinic is based on marginal information about food and not what is actually known about its effects. The people they choose to deliver that information are not well qualified to speak about it either. For the most part they are dietitians or glorified dietitians that call themselves nutritionists. They have very limited knowledge that they impart to us as fact.

If you want to get some real useful information you have to go to people that are fully involved with research and have studied the effects of all sorts of substances on the human body for years. These are people that have made a lifetime of work in this field. They are for the most part people who spend their lives in laboratories and libraries, doing research and publishing their findings when the time comes.

When I started to search for such people I found them occupying overcrowded offices stacked high with papers in obscure places deep inside healthcare facilities and laboratories usually out of the site of most hospital staff and those that could benefit by their knowledge.

There is a great deal of resistance on the part of corporate America to let the very valuable insights career nutritional researchers have to offer. The food additives industry lobby does not want the general public to get their hands on information that may affect their profits.

The only way major changes and improvements in this countries overall health and health care will happen is by people like yourself taking action and demanding better information and healthier choices and products to choose from.

This is happening little by little with more and more farmers markets being started and because of websites like this one and the many others that have come into existence because of the demand for it.

People with CF have a major roll to play in demanding high quality nutritional information because good nutrition plays such a vital role in how well we do.
If we were organized behind these ideas we would be a powerful force to be reckoned with!!

Thanks for the great post and continue the good work you are doing!!!

Best wishes!!!

PeterC 58/cf
 

PeterC

New member
Jody:

You are right and I support your ideas completely!!!

In my experience the nutritional information we are given at clinic is based on marginal information about food and not what is actually known about its effects. The people they choose to deliver that information are not well qualified to speak about it either. For the most part they are dietitians or glorified dietitians that call themselves nutritionists. They have very limited knowledge that they impart to us as fact.

If you want to get some real useful information you have to go to people that are fully involved with research and have studied the effects of all sorts of substances on the human body for years. These are people that have made a lifetime of work in this field. They are for the most part people who spend their lives in laboratories and libraries, doing research and publishing their findings when the time comes.

When I started to search for such people I found them occupying overcrowded offices stacked high with papers in obscure places deep inside healthcare facilities and laboratories usually out of the site of most hospital staff and those that could benefit by their knowledge.

There is a great deal of resistance on the part of corporate America to let the very valuable insights career nutritional researchers have to offer. The food additives industry lobby does not want the general public to get their hands on information that may affect their profits.

The only way major changes and improvements in this countries overall health and health care will happen is by people like yourself taking action and demanding better information and healthier choices and products to choose from.

This is happening little by little with more and more farmers markets being started and because of websites like this one and the many others that have come into existence because of the demand for it.

People with CF have a major roll to play in demanding high quality nutritional information because good nutrition plays such a vital role in how well we do.
If we were organized behind these ideas we would be a powerful force to be reckoned with!!

Thanks for the great post and continue the good work you are doing!!!

Best wishes!!!

PeterC 58/cf
 

PeterC

New member
Jody:

You are right and I support your ideas completely!!!

In my experience the nutritional information we are given at clinic is based on marginal information about food and not what is actually known about its effects. The people they choose to deliver that information are not well qualified to speak about it either. For the most part they are dietitians or glorified dietitians that call themselves nutritionists. They have very limited knowledge that they impart to us as fact.

If you want to get some real useful information you have to go to people that are fully involved with research and have studied the effects of all sorts of substances on the human body for years. These are people that have made a lifetime of work in this field. They are for the most part people who spend their lives in laboratories and libraries, doing research and publishing their findings when the time comes.

When I started to search for such people I found them occupying overcrowded offices stacked high with papers in obscure places deep inside healthcare facilities and laboratories usually out of the site of most hospital staff and those that could benefit by their knowledge.

There is a great deal of resistance on the part of corporate America to let the very valuable insights career nutritional researchers have to offer. The food additives industry lobby does not want the general public to get their hands on information that may affect their profits.

The only way major changes and improvements in this countries overall health and health care will happen is by people like yourself taking action and demanding better information and healthier choices and products to choose from.

This is happening little by little with more and more farmers markets being started and because of websites like this one and the many others that have come into existence because of the demand for it.

People with CF have a major roll to play in demanding high quality nutritional information because good nutrition plays such a vital role in how well we do.
If we were organized behind these ideas we would be a powerful force to be reckoned with!!

Thanks for the great post and continue the good work you are doing!!!

Best wishes!!!

PeterC 58/cf
 

EnergyGal

New member
I agree Jody. It would be wonderful if the MD's would open up their eyes and bring CAM into their practice. I believe in the next ten years this might be possible. They already have acupuncture at many teaching hospitals.

Going back to the anti-inflammatory diet. Milk products create so much MORE mucus in the body. This affects the spleen meridian big time.

I have tried Goats cheese and I must say it is better but it is still a dairy product. I do not consume that much goats cheese but i would love to eat it all day long melted on kamut bread. YUMMY

there is a ton of fat in cheese and I have learned to extra enzymes if I eat anything with goats cheese.

By the way, anyone who eats Goats cheese what brand do you buy?
 

EnergyGal

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I agree Jody. It would be wonderful if the MD's would open up their eyes and bring CAM into their practice. I believe in the next ten years this might be possible. They already have acupuncture at many teaching hospitals.

Going back to the anti-inflammatory diet. Milk products create so much MORE mucus in the body. This affects the spleen meridian big time.

I have tried Goats cheese and I must say it is better but it is still a dairy product. I do not consume that much goats cheese but i would love to eat it all day long melted on kamut bread. YUMMY

there is a ton of fat in cheese and I have learned to extra enzymes if I eat anything with goats cheese.

By the way, anyone who eats Goats cheese what brand do you buy?
 

EnergyGal

New member
I agree Jody. It would be wonderful if the MD's would open up their eyes and bring CAM into their practice. I believe in the next ten years this might be possible. They already have acupuncture at many teaching hospitals.

Going back to the anti-inflammatory diet. Milk products create so much MORE mucus in the body. This affects the spleen meridian big time.

I have tried Goats cheese and I must say it is better but it is still a dairy product. I do not consume that much goats cheese but i would love to eat it all day long melted on kamut bread. YUMMY

there is a ton of fat in cheese and I have learned to extra enzymes if I eat anything with goats cheese.

By the way, anyone who eats Goats cheese what brand do you buy?
 

Foody

New member
Risa, if you can find it 34 degrees from australia is to die for...it is marinated in olive oil capers, and thyme and it is spreadable on bread or crackers! We love it. I've found it at regular groceries around here from $5-9 dollars. It's not an everyday thing but you could eat a whole tub in one sitting. We like a crumbled one but I can't remember the name at the moment.

We have used goat's milk but no one liked it too much. However, I did find an organic non-homogenized one which tasted like cow's to me. Liberty brand goat's milk yogurts are nice. Haven't found an organic goat's milk yogurt either. We've made our own but it was a thumbs down.

I agree...even after allergy treatment we still keep dairy to a minimum. Trying not to get stuck or dependent on one food is always the challenge, don't you think?
 

Foody

New member
Risa, if you can find it 34 degrees from australia is to die for...it is marinated in olive oil capers, and thyme and it is spreadable on bread or crackers! We love it. I've found it at regular groceries around here from $5-9 dollars. It's not an everyday thing but you could eat a whole tub in one sitting. We like a crumbled one but I can't remember the name at the moment.

We have used goat's milk but no one liked it too much. However, I did find an organic non-homogenized one which tasted like cow's to me. Liberty brand goat's milk yogurts are nice. Haven't found an organic goat's milk yogurt either. We've made our own but it was a thumbs down.

I agree...even after allergy treatment we still keep dairy to a minimum. Trying not to get stuck or dependent on one food is always the challenge, don't you think?
 

Foody

New member
Risa, if you can find it 34 degrees from australia is to die for...it is marinated in olive oil capers, and thyme and it is spreadable on bread or crackers! We love it. I've found it at regular groceries around here from $5-9 dollars. It's not an everyday thing but you could eat a whole tub in one sitting. We like a crumbled one but I can't remember the name at the moment.

We have used goat's milk but no one liked it too much. However, I did find an organic non-homogenized one which tasted like cow's to me. Liberty brand goat's milk yogurts are nice. Haven't found an organic goat's milk yogurt either. We've made our own but it was a thumbs down.

I agree...even after allergy treatment we still keep dairy to a minimum. Trying not to get stuck or dependent on one food is always the challenge, don't you think?
 

Lilith

New member
This all sounds great, but I have one potential problem with it; cost. How much on average do you guys spend a month in food, ordering from these internet sites and such? I tried buying all healthy foods a few months ago, and it shot my budget for the rest of the month! With SSI, I'm on a fixed income, and prescriptions co-pays are bad enough without adding a high grocery bill to the list...

Don't get me wrong, I think it is important to try and keep as healthy as possible, but realistically, money is an issue. I think that's part of the reason why people eat so much crap; its so much cheaper for those on a budget. Just a thought... If it were affordable, I'd be all over it.
 

Lilith

New member
This all sounds great, but I have one potential problem with it; cost. How much on average do you guys spend a month in food, ordering from these internet sites and such? I tried buying all healthy foods a few months ago, and it shot my budget for the rest of the month! With SSI, I'm on a fixed income, and prescriptions co-pays are bad enough without adding a high grocery bill to the list...

Don't get me wrong, I think it is important to try and keep as healthy as possible, but realistically, money is an issue. I think that's part of the reason why people eat so much crap; its so much cheaper for those on a budget. Just a thought... If it were affordable, I'd be all over it.
 

Lilith

New member
This all sounds great, but I have one potential problem with it; cost. How much on average do you guys spend a month in food, ordering from these internet sites and such? I tried buying all healthy foods a few months ago, and it shot my budget for the rest of the month! With SSI, I'm on a fixed income, and prescriptions co-pays are bad enough without adding a high grocery bill to the list...

Don't get me wrong, I think it is important to try and keep as healthy as possible, but realistically, money is an issue. I think that's part of the reason why people eat so much crap; its so much cheaper for those on a budget. Just a thought... If it were affordable, I'd be all over it.
 

lilismom

Active member
I found frozen wild salmon and halibut the last time I went to costco. They are frozen in portion sizes and per pound were alot cheaper than what you find other stores. Most fish at supermarkets has been frozen at sea and then defrosted so I think it's probably just as good as what you'd pay a lot more for.
 

lilismom

Active member
I found frozen wild salmon and halibut the last time I went to costco. They are frozen in portion sizes and per pound were alot cheaper than what you find other stores. Most fish at supermarkets has been frozen at sea and then defrosted so I think it's probably just as good as what you'd pay a lot more for.
 

lilismom

Active member
I found frozen wild salmon and halibut the last time I went to costco. They are frozen in portion sizes and per pound were alot cheaper than what you find other stores. Most fish at supermarkets has been frozen at sea and then defrosted so I think it's probably just as good as what you'd pay a lot more for.
 

EnergyGal

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At the bottom of this page you will see the GOAT's cheese that I love. I just have thin slices to spice up my food when I crave cheese. I cannot tell the difference in taste to the typical cheeses out there.

YES eating healthy is expensive but you can cut way down on prices if you make everything on your own.

If you are on disability you can get food stamps and some states have cf assistant funds. I know NYC has one and Florida too.

If you need a transplant, there is the national transplant assistance fund.

Junk food is very expensive if you add it up and frankly, I rather buy extra food one week than a new blouse or pair of jeans. If one wants to eat healthier, there are ways to save money.

It will not be easy. Just learning to eat healthy for some people is like learning a new language.

JUNK food is expensive too.
 

EnergyGal

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At the bottom of this page you will see the GOAT's cheese that I love. I just have thin slices to spice up my food when I crave cheese. I cannot tell the difference in taste to the typical cheeses out there.

YES eating healthy is expensive but you can cut way down on prices if you make everything on your own.

If you are on disability you can get food stamps and some states have cf assistant funds. I know NYC has one and Florida too.

If you need a transplant, there is the national transplant assistance fund.

Junk food is very expensive if you add it up and frankly, I rather buy extra food one week than a new blouse or pair of jeans. If one wants to eat healthier, there are ways to save money.

It will not be easy. Just learning to eat healthy for some people is like learning a new language.

JUNK food is expensive too.
 

EnergyGal

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At the bottom of this page you will see the GOAT's cheese that I love. I just have thin slices to spice up my food when I crave cheese. I cannot tell the difference in taste to the typical cheeses out there.

YES eating healthy is expensive but you can cut way down on prices if you make everything on your own.

If you are on disability you can get food stamps and some states have cf assistant funds. I know NYC has one and Florida too.

If you need a transplant, there is the national transplant assistance fund.

Junk food is very expensive if you add it up and frankly, I rather buy extra food one week than a new blouse or pair of jeans. If one wants to eat healthier, there are ways to save money.

It will not be easy. Just learning to eat healthy for some people is like learning a new language.

JUNK food is expensive too.
 
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