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Artificial Birth Contol and IVF. Why They Are Gravely Immoral
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Nightwriter
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Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I told you he'd be back.
I told you he'd be back.
Nightwriter
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I told you he'd be back.
I told you he'd be back.
Nightwriter
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I told you he'd be back.
I told you he'd be back.
Nightwriter
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
<br />I told you he'd be back.
<br />I told you he'd be back.
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65rosessamurai
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Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
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65rosessamurai
Guest
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
6
65rosessamurai
Guest
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
6
65rosessamurai
Guest
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
6
65rosessamurai
Guest
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
<br />
<br />Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
<br />
<br />The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
I'm certainly dissapointed by his persistant overassertion.
<br />
<br />Since it was already noted by one that it is a personal decision and it is based on discussing it with their doctor, spouse AND spiritual advisor, I'm in support of it. (and I was brought up Roman Catholic as well)
<br />
<br />The facts regarding medical documentation are noted.
TestifyToLove
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
TestifyToLove
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
TestifyToLove
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
TestifyToLove
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
TestifyToLove
New member
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
<br />
<br />Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
<br />
<br />As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
<br />
<br />Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
<br />
<br />How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
<br />
<br />Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
<br />
<br />Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
<br />
<br />While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
<br />
<br />The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
<br />
<br />I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
Actually, Prussian, you are absolutely wrong. The fact is NOT that hormonal birth control is playing Russian roulette and will eventually cause chemical pregnancies. Rather, the fact is that ANY pregnancy has a 1 in 5 chance of not being viable. That's a 20% chance. The FACT is that we are more aware of miscarriages than previous generations because as recently as 2 decades ago, you could not even test to determine pregnancy until you were over 2 months pregnant, beyond the point where non-viable pregnancies naturally terminate.
<br />
<br />Clearly, you have absolutely no personal understanding of how hormonal birth control works, nor not enough resources to back your opinions up. The abortifacient effect you continue to harp upon is a theoritical effect. Theoritical...that means its a theory...niether proven nor disproven. A scientific theory is the educated guess a scientist puts forth FIRST in the scientific process. You make a hypothosis and then you do research and experimentation to either confirm or deny your guess. Abortifacient effect cannot move past that theory point because its impossible to prove or disprove.
<br />
<br />As for the standard response of, we should be adopting...put your heart where your opinions are. How many hurting, orphaned children from this world have YOU brought into your home???? How many weeping, crying little ones have you rocked to sleep night after night, praying over them, praying for their peace and healing and hoping they can find peace now that they are finally safe and finally loved.
<br />
<br />Do you see children in the conflict in the Congo and respond with an open heart? Are you even aware that you CAN adopt from Africa? Do you look at foster children and respond by calling your local DCFS office to find out how to start the process.
<br />
<br />How many children are you parenting that aren't biologically related to YOU???? Because if you are going to attack people who seek IVF and harp on the need for more adoption, you'd darn better be able to back your ignorance with real action.
<br />
<br />Want to know MY answer to that question? I'm ON these boards because we choose to VOLUNTARILY adopt a child with CF. We CHOOSE to take on this life. And, we took on one of the most complicated presentations of CF his doctors have ever seen. And, on top of that, we took on a child with mental illness and about half a dozen OTHER medical issues on top of his CF.
<br />
<br />Furthermore, not only was he NOT our first time putting our hearts on the line for the hurting children of this world, we don't even suffer from infertility. But, we recognized that adoption is NOT a cure for infertility. Adoption is NOT about finding children for people who long to be parents. Adoption is about finding a safe, loving and permenant home for a child who desperately needs that love and future. And, no one should see adoption as a cheap substitute just because they have infertility issues. No child should have to carry the burden that they were supposed to somehow cure their parents' longing for what they could not have rather than they were desperately loved, wanted and fought for by their own right.
<br />
<br />While you've assimilated your uninformed and inaccurate attacks on those who don't leave all family planning in the hands of God and God alone, we've thrice opened our home to children who needed that future. And, we haven't regretted a moment of it. But we believe in pratically living our faith, in obedience and in humility. So when God called us to love these children, we answered Yes, Lord and put our lives, our finances and everything about our lives out there for that call.
<br />
<br />The Catholic Church does not hold the corner on what is correct reproductively for all people. The Orthodox Church is just as old and just as steeped in Tradition and holds an entirely different stance than the Catholic Church. And, the Jewish stance is older still and also different. The Orthodox Church espouses charity in all things. The Jewish model says that procreation and all decisions about procreation involves 3 people, the man, the woman and God. Together, those 3 make the choices, knowing that sometimes God will choose to override and most of the time he leaves the decision to be a mutual decision.
<br />
<br />I would strongly suggest you will find a more willing audience to your opinions at a staunchly Catholic board. Or better yet, as a man with little impact by this entire decision making process, why exactly are you arguing this with those who must face it and must live through the myraid of issues fertility entails? If you aren't seeking birth control or fertility treatments, and you haven't adopted, then how does any of this impact you in the first place?
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
Peace
Artificial Birth Contol and IVF
Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
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<br />In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
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<br />I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
<br />
<br />As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
<br />
<br />You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
<br />
<br />Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
<br />
<br />I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
<br />
<br />Peace
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Makers of these artificial contraceptives admit that they "may inhibit implantation by altering the endometrium [i.e. the lining of the womb]." In other words, artificial contraceptives may cause a newly-conceived embryo to die (and be expelled) because it cannot implant itself in the lining of the womb. The thing is, these pharmaceutical companies change the meaning of being pregnant from beginning at contraception to beginning at implantation. This is why they can get away with their deceptive marketing. Science shows life beginning at conception, that's just an established fact. And Breakthrough Ovulation while on these contraceptives is a well-established fact.
<br />
<br />In making these potentially lethal artificial contraceptives more easily available, the FDA should at least have required the drug maker to come clean, to say prominently on its label something like "WARNING: THIS DRUG MAY CAUSE THE DEATH OF AN EMBRYO." Its users would then be able to exercise informed consent about whether to take a chance on destroying a developing human life.
<br />
<br />I just feel like these pharmaceutical companies that hid truths and downplayed serious side effects duped many of you. It's not your fault.
<br />
<br />As for your point on adoption, I can do nothing but commend yourself and Tom for selflessly opening your hearts and home to those in need. As a person suffering from CF, you have nothing but my admiration and respect for adopting a special needs child. God Bless you for doing so. What you two have done is one of the most selfless acts of love one can do. However, I don't think it's fair however for you to down me for not having adopted a child yet; I see nothing wrong in me promoting something noble and good to the members of this community. I will continue to raise awareness about adoption whenever I can because those kids need loving homes and the more the word is spread the better, but you are entitled to your opinion. As for me, I do what I can, I donate to various charities that help people in difficult circumstances and I volunteer my time in helping the poor when my health permits I also volunteer with my church. I also try to help with CF by donating to novel charities (like sponsoring people on CF walks) and participating in clinical trials whenever I am qualified to do so.
<br />
<br />You ask why am I doing this, well, as a pro-life person who believes that the sanctity of life is of the utmost importance I believe I have to do what my faith demands and stand up for all innocent life both born and pre-born and condemn what is morally bankrupt. Ultimately I will be judged by God and will have to stand account on how I defended the most helpless amongst us. I also think it's extremely important to warn of the dangerous side effects these BC methods can cause. They are not often talked about but should be.
<br />
<br />Latter on (maybe in a couple of days) I will post some links to varies sites that defend my position on things, you can either choose to read them or not, they will all have contact information so you can ask them whatever you wish if you so choose.
<br />
<br />I honestly harbor no ill will towards anyone here, nor can I judge a persons heart (that's Gods Job). I will continue to pray for all those suffering from CF and will continue to pray that we all make wise decisions in life.
<br />
<br />Peace
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