Best sleeping pill?

nichi874

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I don't suggest Ambien. I started sleep walking in the buff when I was on that! It was quite interesting though <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

nichi874

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I don't suggest Ambien. I started sleep walking in the buff when I was on that! It was quite interesting though <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

nichi874

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I don't suggest Ambien. I started sleep walking in the buff when I was on that! It was quite interesting though <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

nichi874

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I don't suggest Ambien. I started sleep walking in the buff when I was on that! It was quite interesting though <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

nichi874

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I don't suggest Ambien. I started sleep walking in the buff when I was on that! It was quite interesting though <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

NoExcuses

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Rozerem has horrific sales - in fact, when I used to call on psychs, patients would bring free samples BACK to the psychs cuz the med worked so poorly. But there's no harm in getting a sample if you want to try.

Lunesta has a 6 hour 1/2 life (meaning it takes 6 hours for 1/2 the medication to leave your body) so many people feel extremely groggy after 8 hours of sleep cuz it's still in their system. And it has a pretty high taste perversion rate (medication is secreted through your salivary glands and you can't get rid of the horrible taste). But again, if you go to a psych and get free samples it's worth trying out if you don't have anything to do the next day.

Sonata has a 1 hour half life so it can help you go to sleep but doesn't work for many people who need help staying asleep. I know some people use it on short flights (5 hours, etc) so it's good for that.

Ambien has a 2.6 hour half life and Ambien CR has a 2.8 hour half life. The difference between the two being that Ambien CR is a bi-phase tablet that releases more medication about 2 hours post dose. Many Ambien patients complained of waking up after about 6 hours so Ambien CR seems to keep patients asleep for about 8-9 hours. The old Ambien is generic so it's cheaper than Ambien CR.

Benzodos (lorazapam, tamazapam, etc) in addition to making you sleepy (hypnotic effect) also are anxiolytics and muscle relaxants. Not the best idea for CF patients. Lunesta, Sonata and Ambien are much more hypnotic specific when working on receptors in the brain. Benzos are often pushed by doctors because they are cheap - not because they're the best choice.

Trazadone is also pushed because it's cheap - but the medication is actually meant to be an anti-depressant, not a hypnotic. So not ideal, but cheap.

Some use benadryl - but this has anticholinergic properties which is an absolute no-no for CFers.

Some us alcohol, but alcohol prevents a person from reaching the more restorative, deep sleep stages. So you're sleeping but it's not serving too much of a purpose.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: sleep medication must be taken as directed of you're get the insane stories you hear often. About 90% of patients who claim to have sleep walking, sleep eating, etc experiences (I'M NOT SAYING ALL SO RELAX) are not taking the medication while physically in bed with the lights off. Most take the meds about 30-60 minutes before they want to go to sleep and continue to do things around the house. Big no-no. And then of course they blame the manufacturer instead of taking personal responsibility for not taking the meds as instructed. *dies*
 

NoExcuses

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Rozerem has horrific sales - in fact, when I used to call on psychs, patients would bring free samples BACK to the psychs cuz the med worked so poorly. But there's no harm in getting a sample if you want to try.

Lunesta has a 6 hour 1/2 life (meaning it takes 6 hours for 1/2 the medication to leave your body) so many people feel extremely groggy after 8 hours of sleep cuz it's still in their system. And it has a pretty high taste perversion rate (medication is secreted through your salivary glands and you can't get rid of the horrible taste). But again, if you go to a psych and get free samples it's worth trying out if you don't have anything to do the next day.

Sonata has a 1 hour half life so it can help you go to sleep but doesn't work for many people who need help staying asleep. I know some people use it on short flights (5 hours, etc) so it's good for that.

Ambien has a 2.6 hour half life and Ambien CR has a 2.8 hour half life. The difference between the two being that Ambien CR is a bi-phase tablet that releases more medication about 2 hours post dose. Many Ambien patients complained of waking up after about 6 hours so Ambien CR seems to keep patients asleep for about 8-9 hours. The old Ambien is generic so it's cheaper than Ambien CR.

Benzodos (lorazapam, tamazapam, etc) in addition to making you sleepy (hypnotic effect) also are anxiolytics and muscle relaxants. Not the best idea for CF patients. Lunesta, Sonata and Ambien are much more hypnotic specific when working on receptors in the brain. Benzos are often pushed by doctors because they are cheap - not because they're the best choice.

Trazadone is also pushed because it's cheap - but the medication is actually meant to be an anti-depressant, not a hypnotic. So not ideal, but cheap.

Some use benadryl - but this has anticholinergic properties which is an absolute no-no for CFers.

Some us alcohol, but alcohol prevents a person from reaching the more restorative, deep sleep stages. So you're sleeping but it's not serving too much of a purpose.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: sleep medication must be taken as directed of you're get the insane stories you hear often. About 90% of patients who claim to have sleep walking, sleep eating, etc experiences (I'M NOT SAYING ALL SO RELAX) are not taking the medication while physically in bed with the lights off. Most take the meds about 30-60 minutes before they want to go to sleep and continue to do things around the house. Big no-no. And then of course they blame the manufacturer instead of taking personal responsibility for not taking the meds as instructed. *dies*
 

NoExcuses

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Rozerem has horrific sales - in fact, when I used to call on psychs, patients would bring free samples BACK to the psychs cuz the med worked so poorly. But there's no harm in getting a sample if you want to try.

Lunesta has a 6 hour 1/2 life (meaning it takes 6 hours for 1/2 the medication to leave your body) so many people feel extremely groggy after 8 hours of sleep cuz it's still in their system. And it has a pretty high taste perversion rate (medication is secreted through your salivary glands and you can't get rid of the horrible taste). But again, if you go to a psych and get free samples it's worth trying out if you don't have anything to do the next day.

Sonata has a 1 hour half life so it can help you go to sleep but doesn't work for many people who need help staying asleep. I know some people use it on short flights (5 hours, etc) so it's good for that.

Ambien has a 2.6 hour half life and Ambien CR has a 2.8 hour half life. The difference between the two being that Ambien CR is a bi-phase tablet that releases more medication about 2 hours post dose. Many Ambien patients complained of waking up after about 6 hours so Ambien CR seems to keep patients asleep for about 8-9 hours. The old Ambien is generic so it's cheaper than Ambien CR.

Benzodos (lorazapam, tamazapam, etc) in addition to making you sleepy (hypnotic effect) also are anxiolytics and muscle relaxants. Not the best idea for CF patients. Lunesta, Sonata and Ambien are much more hypnotic specific when working on receptors in the brain. Benzos are often pushed by doctors because they are cheap - not because they're the best choice.

Trazadone is also pushed because it's cheap - but the medication is actually meant to be an anti-depressant, not a hypnotic. So not ideal, but cheap.

Some use benadryl - but this has anticholinergic properties which is an absolute no-no for CFers.

Some us alcohol, but alcohol prevents a person from reaching the more restorative, deep sleep stages. So you're sleeping but it's not serving too much of a purpose.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: sleep medication must be taken as directed of you're get the insane stories you hear often. About 90% of patients who claim to have sleep walking, sleep eating, etc experiences (I'M NOT SAYING ALL SO RELAX) are not taking the medication while physically in bed with the lights off. Most take the meds about 30-60 minutes before they want to go to sleep and continue to do things around the house. Big no-no. And then of course they blame the manufacturer instead of taking personal responsibility for not taking the meds as instructed. *dies*
 

NoExcuses

New member
Rozerem has horrific sales - in fact, when I used to call on psychs, patients would bring free samples BACK to the psychs cuz the med worked so poorly. But there's no harm in getting a sample if you want to try.

Lunesta has a 6 hour 1/2 life (meaning it takes 6 hours for 1/2 the medication to leave your body) so many people feel extremely groggy after 8 hours of sleep cuz it's still in their system. And it has a pretty high taste perversion rate (medication is secreted through your salivary glands and you can't get rid of the horrible taste). But again, if you go to a psych and get free samples it's worth trying out if you don't have anything to do the next day.

Sonata has a 1 hour half life so it can help you go to sleep but doesn't work for many people who need help staying asleep. I know some people use it on short flights (5 hours, etc) so it's good for that.

Ambien has a 2.6 hour half life and Ambien CR has a 2.8 hour half life. The difference between the two being that Ambien CR is a bi-phase tablet that releases more medication about 2 hours post dose. Many Ambien patients complained of waking up after about 6 hours so Ambien CR seems to keep patients asleep for about 8-9 hours. The old Ambien is generic so it's cheaper than Ambien CR.

Benzodos (lorazapam, tamazapam, etc) in addition to making you sleepy (hypnotic effect) also are anxiolytics and muscle relaxants. Not the best idea for CF patients. Lunesta, Sonata and Ambien are much more hypnotic specific when working on receptors in the brain. Benzos are often pushed by doctors because they are cheap - not because they're the best choice.

Trazadone is also pushed because it's cheap - but the medication is actually meant to be an anti-depressant, not a hypnotic. So not ideal, but cheap.

Some use benadryl - but this has anticholinergic properties which is an absolute no-no for CFers.

Some us alcohol, but alcohol prevents a person from reaching the more restorative, deep sleep stages. So you're sleeping but it's not serving too much of a purpose.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: sleep medication must be taken as directed of you're get the insane stories you hear often. About 90% of patients who claim to have sleep walking, sleep eating, etc experiences (I'M NOT SAYING ALL SO RELAX) are not taking the medication while physically in bed with the lights off. Most take the meds about 30-60 minutes before they want to go to sleep and continue to do things around the house. Big no-no. And then of course they blame the manufacturer instead of taking personal responsibility for not taking the meds as instructed. *dies*
 

NoExcuses

New member
Rozerem has horrific sales - in fact, when I used to call on psychs, patients would bring free samples BACK to the psychs cuz the med worked so poorly. But there's no harm in getting a sample if you want to try.
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<br />Lunesta has a 6 hour 1/2 life (meaning it takes 6 hours for 1/2 the medication to leave your body) so many people feel extremely groggy after 8 hours of sleep cuz it's still in their system. And it has a pretty high taste perversion rate (medication is secreted through your salivary glands and you can't get rid of the horrible taste). But again, if you go to a psych and get free samples it's worth trying out if you don't have anything to do the next day.
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<br />Sonata has a 1 hour half life so it can help you go to sleep but doesn't work for many people who need help staying asleep. I know some people use it on short flights (5 hours, etc) so it's good for that.
<br />
<br />Ambien has a 2.6 hour half life and Ambien CR has a 2.8 hour half life. The difference between the two being that Ambien CR is a bi-phase tablet that releases more medication about 2 hours post dose. Many Ambien patients complained of waking up after about 6 hours so Ambien CR seems to keep patients asleep for about 8-9 hours. The old Ambien is generic so it's cheaper than Ambien CR.
<br />
<br />Benzodos (lorazapam, tamazapam, etc) in addition to making you sleepy (hypnotic effect) also are anxiolytics and muscle relaxants. Not the best idea for CF patients. Lunesta, Sonata and Ambien are much more hypnotic specific when working on receptors in the brain. Benzos are often pushed by doctors because they are cheap - not because they're the best choice.
<br />
<br />Trazadone is also pushed because it's cheap - but the medication is actually meant to be an anti-depressant, not a hypnotic. So not ideal, but cheap.
<br />
<br />Some use benadryl - but this has anticholinergic properties which is an absolute no-no for CFers.
<br />
<br />Some us alcohol, but alcohol prevents a person from reaching the more restorative, deep sleep stages. So you're sleeping but it's not serving too much of a purpose.
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<br />Hope this helps.
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<br />Edited to add: sleep medication must be taken as directed of you're get the insane stories you hear often. About 90% of patients who claim to have sleep walking, sleep eating, etc experiences (I'M NOT SAYING ALL SO RELAX) are not taking the medication while physically in bed with the lights off. Most take the meds about 30-60 minutes before they want to go to sleep and continue to do things around the house. Big no-no. And then of course they blame the manufacturer instead of taking personal responsibility for not taking the meds as instructed. *dies*
 

Sevenstars

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As stated already, Remeron is great for sleep but also an antidepressant. No odd effects and puts you gently to sleep, from what I've experienced.

Ambien, on the right dose, also does the same thing. Doesn't make you fall over sleepy, but if you lay down in bed, it's quite easy to fall asleep. I must share a story here though... once I was having a particularly hard time sleeping so I took 10mg instead of 5... which is an extremely low dose anyway. Well it pretty much knocked me on my ass, and I'm sure if I stayed up, I'd have been one of those sleepwalker stories. I don't remember getting to my bed to be honest. But, all that aside, it does do it's job. (I in no way reccommend doing what I did, I was just pointing out what you'll feel like if the dose is too high for you <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">)

One thing to note about sleeping aids is they also force you to have a schedule. Some of my best months this year (health AND mood wise) were when I was religiously taking ambien at 12midnight every day... I'd wake up at 8:30, no alarm, feeling refresh and ready for anything. So I hope this does the same for you, too. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Sleep well, when you get there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

Sevenstars

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As stated already, Remeron is great for sleep but also an antidepressant. No odd effects and puts you gently to sleep, from what I've experienced.

Ambien, on the right dose, also does the same thing. Doesn't make you fall over sleepy, but if you lay down in bed, it's quite easy to fall asleep. I must share a story here though... once I was having a particularly hard time sleeping so I took 10mg instead of 5... which is an extremely low dose anyway. Well it pretty much knocked me on my ass, and I'm sure if I stayed up, I'd have been one of those sleepwalker stories. I don't remember getting to my bed to be honest. But, all that aside, it does do it's job. (I in no way reccommend doing what I did, I was just pointing out what you'll feel like if the dose is too high for you <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">)

One thing to note about sleeping aids is they also force you to have a schedule. Some of my best months this year (health AND mood wise) were when I was religiously taking ambien at 12midnight every day... I'd wake up at 8:30, no alarm, feeling refresh and ready for anything. So I hope this does the same for you, too. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Sleep well, when you get there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

Sevenstars

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As stated already, Remeron is great for sleep but also an antidepressant. No odd effects and puts you gently to sleep, from what I've experienced.

Ambien, on the right dose, also does the same thing. Doesn't make you fall over sleepy, but if you lay down in bed, it's quite easy to fall asleep. I must share a story here though... once I was having a particularly hard time sleeping so I took 10mg instead of 5... which is an extremely low dose anyway. Well it pretty much knocked me on my ass, and I'm sure if I stayed up, I'd have been one of those sleepwalker stories. I don't remember getting to my bed to be honest. But, all that aside, it does do it's job. (I in no way reccommend doing what I did, I was just pointing out what you'll feel like if the dose is too high for you <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">)

One thing to note about sleeping aids is they also force you to have a schedule. Some of my best months this year (health AND mood wise) were when I was religiously taking ambien at 12midnight every day... I'd wake up at 8:30, no alarm, feeling refresh and ready for anything. So I hope this does the same for you, too. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Sleep well, when you get there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

Sevenstars

New member
As stated already, Remeron is great for sleep but also an antidepressant. No odd effects and puts you gently to sleep, from what I've experienced.

Ambien, on the right dose, also does the same thing. Doesn't make you fall over sleepy, but if you lay down in bed, it's quite easy to fall asleep. I must share a story here though... once I was having a particularly hard time sleeping so I took 10mg instead of 5... which is an extremely low dose anyway. Well it pretty much knocked me on my ass, and I'm sure if I stayed up, I'd have been one of those sleepwalker stories. I don't remember getting to my bed to be honest. But, all that aside, it does do it's job. (I in no way reccommend doing what I did, I was just pointing out what you'll feel like if the dose is too high for you <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">)

One thing to note about sleeping aids is they also force you to have a schedule. Some of my best months this year (health AND mood wise) were when I was religiously taking ambien at 12midnight every day... I'd wake up at 8:30, no alarm, feeling refresh and ready for anything. So I hope this does the same for you, too. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Sleep well, when you get there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 

Sevenstars

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As stated already, Remeron is great for sleep but also an antidepressant. No odd effects and puts you gently to sleep, from what I've experienced.
<br />
<br />Ambien, on the right dose, also does the same thing. Doesn't make you fall over sleepy, but if you lay down in bed, it's quite easy to fall asleep. I must share a story here though... once I was having a particularly hard time sleeping so I took 10mg instead of 5... which is an extremely low dose anyway. Well it pretty much knocked me on my ass, and I'm sure if I stayed up, I'd have been one of those sleepwalker stories. I don't remember getting to my bed to be honest. But, all that aside, it does do it's job. (I in no way reccommend doing what I did, I was just pointing out what you'll feel like if the dose is too high for you <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0">)
<br />
<br />One thing to note about sleeping aids is they also force you to have a schedule. Some of my best months this year (health AND mood wise) were when I was religiously taking ambien at 12midnight every day... I'd wake up at 8:30, no alarm, feeling refresh and ready for anything. So I hope this does the same for you, too. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Sleep well, when you get there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
 
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