Bronchial Embolization

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LouLou

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How much do you guys think blood contributes to increased infection? I realize there's a risk/benefit ratio that's very difficult to define. Risk of decreased lung function and other risks including paralysis. Benefits are less bleeding which means less infection??

Blood is so nutritious. I always feel passionate about getting my sputum to run clear of blood after a bleed because I don't want to feed the bugs. Now I even consider an embolization to stop the hemoptysis when so many doctors haven't blinked regarding my hemoptysis because I don't have big bleeds (defined to me as 1 cup in one episode - I've never had more than 3 Tbsp. in one cough..tops 1/4 cup in one episode), nor problems with anemia nor problems continuing my daily life.

I want to live as long as possible and am trying to find out if an embolization for this bleeding I've dealt with for so long would be helpful or are the potential risks too great?
 
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LouLou

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How much do you guys think blood contributes to increased infection? I realize there's a risk/benefit ratio that's very difficult to define. Risk of decreased lung function and other risks including paralysis. Benefits are less bleeding which means less infection??

Blood is so nutritious. I always feel passionate about getting my sputum to run clear of blood after a bleed because I don't want to feed the bugs. Now I even consider an embolization to stop the hemoptysis when so many doctors haven't blinked regarding my hemoptysis because I don't have big bleeds (defined to me as 1 cup in one episode - I've never had more than 3 Tbsp. in one cough..tops 1/4 cup in one episode), nor problems with anemia nor problems continuing my daily life.

I want to live as long as possible and am trying to find out if an embolization for this bleeding I've dealt with for so long would be helpful or are the potential risks too great?
 
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LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>

He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.

</end quote></div>

Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!
 
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LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>

He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.

</end quote></div>

Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!
 
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LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>

He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.

</end quote></div>

Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!
 
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LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>

He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.

</end quote></div>

Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!
 
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LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>

He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.

</end quote>

Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!
 
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LouLou

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>

He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.

</end quote>

Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!
 
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blondelawyer

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He has always been admitted to the hospital before the procedure. The process for us was: he would bleed, go to the ER, get admitted, they would start him on IV antibiotics, then they would do the procedure, he would stay a couple of days (or maybe just one) and then go home and finish out his course of IVs. Obviously he didn't get a BAE everytime he bled (nor does he go to the ER every time he bleeds)--what would preciptiate one is either a lot of bleeding (1+ cups) or very recurring bleeding--so smaller bleeds that just keep happening and happening.

So, he has never had a "scheduled" BAE like the original poster was talking about...just as they came up.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>



He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.



</end quote></div>



Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!</end quote></div>
 
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blondelawyer

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He has always been admitted to the hospital before the procedure. The process for us was: he would bleed, go to the ER, get admitted, they would start him on IV antibiotics, then they would do the procedure, he would stay a couple of days (or maybe just one) and then go home and finish out his course of IVs. Obviously he didn't get a BAE everytime he bled (nor does he go to the ER every time he bleeds)--what would preciptiate one is either a lot of bleeding (1+ cups) or very recurring bleeding--so smaller bleeds that just keep happening and happening.

So, he has never had a "scheduled" BAE like the original poster was talking about...just as they came up.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>



He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.



</end quote></div>



Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!</end quote></div>
 
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blondelawyer

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He has always been admitted to the hospital before the procedure. The process for us was: he would bleed, go to the ER, get admitted, they would start him on IV antibiotics, then they would do the procedure, he would stay a couple of days (or maybe just one) and then go home and finish out his course of IVs. Obviously he didn't get a BAE everytime he bled (nor does he go to the ER every time he bleeds)--what would preciptiate one is either a lot of bleeding (1+ cups) or very recurring bleeding--so smaller bleeds that just keep happening and happening.

So, he has never had a "scheduled" BAE like the original poster was talking about...just as they came up.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>



He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.



</end quote></div>



Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!</end quote></div>
 
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blondelawyer

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He has always been admitted to the hospital before the procedure. The process for us was: he would bleed, go to the ER, get admitted, they would start him on IV antibiotics, then they would do the procedure, he would stay a couple of days (or maybe just one) and then go home and finish out his course of IVs. Obviously he didn't get a BAE everytime he bled (nor does he go to the ER every time he bleeds)--what would preciptiate one is either a lot of bleeding (1+ cups) or very recurring bleeding--so smaller bleeds that just keep happening and happening.

So, he has never had a "scheduled" BAE like the original poster was talking about...just as they came up.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>



He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.



</end quote></div>



Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!</end quote></div>
 
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blondelawyer

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He has always been admitted to the hospital before the procedure. The process for us was: he would bleed, go to the ER, get admitted, they would start him on IV antibiotics, then they would do the procedure, he would stay a couple of days (or maybe just one) and then go home and finish out his course of IVs. Obviously he didn't get a BAE everytime he bled (nor does he go to the ER every time he bleeds)--what would preciptiate one is either a lot of bleeding (1+ cups) or very recurring bleeding--so smaller bleeds that just keep happening and happening.

So, he has never had a "scheduled" BAE like the original poster was talking about...just as they came up.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>



He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.



</end quote>



Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!</end quote>
 
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blondelawyer

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He has always been admitted to the hospital before the procedure. The process for us was: he would bleed, go to the ER, get admitted, they would start him on IV antibiotics, then they would do the procedure, he would stay a couple of days (or maybe just one) and then go home and finish out his course of IVs. Obviously he didn't get a BAE everytime he bled (nor does he go to the ER every time he bleeds)--what would preciptiate one is either a lot of bleeding (1+ cups) or very recurring bleeding--so smaller bleeds that just keep happening and happening.

So, he has never had a "scheduled" BAE like the original poster was talking about...just as they came up.

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>blondelawyer</b></i>



He usually experiences some pain a couple days post procedure, but then that goes away pretty quickly and he is begging to get let out of the hospital.



</end quote>



Lisa, Are you saying Gessner had to stay overnight??? I thought this was an outpatient procedure. Am I wrong or should I add that to my list of "risks?" Maybe it's just because he's had so many and like you said...things have gotten complicated?!</end quote>
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

Hi Lauren,

You will be flat and that scared the crap out of me also. I asked the Intervention Radiologist what will happen if i start to bleed and he assured me they would lay me on the side that is bleeding and fix it since it will most likely show up on screen. Well i can speak from experience....... That is exactly what they will do. It happened during my second embolization, i felt the gurgle and said im bleeding again, they rolled me onto my left side ( because thats where my bleeding was to begin with and thats where the gurgle was from)and the nurse brought a pan to spit it in and stayed at my side and the Intervention Radiologist watched on the screen and sure enough a white dot showed up where it was . It was a very tiny blood vessel so he inserted my first coil and then a second. There doesnt have to be an active bleed since once they are in there they can see on the screen which blood vessels are the most likely culprits or the ones most likely ( enlarged and dilated ones)</end quote></div>

This is very very good to know and I guess in some ways helpful since it is actively happening while they are in there. OF course I suppose that doesnt guarantee its the only spot where there is a bleed, but still I find this comforting.
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

Hi Lauren,

You will be flat and that scared the crap out of me also. I asked the Intervention Radiologist what will happen if i start to bleed and he assured me they would lay me on the side that is bleeding and fix it since it will most likely show up on screen. Well i can speak from experience....... That is exactly what they will do. It happened during my second embolization, i felt the gurgle and said im bleeding again, they rolled me onto my left side ( because thats where my bleeding was to begin with and thats where the gurgle was from)and the nurse brought a pan to spit it in and stayed at my side and the Intervention Radiologist watched on the screen and sure enough a white dot showed up where it was . It was a very tiny blood vessel so he inserted my first coil and then a second. There doesnt have to be an active bleed since once they are in there they can see on the screen which blood vessels are the most likely culprits or the ones most likely ( enlarged and dilated ones)</end quote></div>

This is very very good to know and I guess in some ways helpful since it is actively happening while they are in there. OF course I suppose that doesnt guarantee its the only spot where there is a bleed, but still I find this comforting.
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

Hi Lauren,

You will be flat and that scared the crap out of me also. I asked the Intervention Radiologist what will happen if i start to bleed and he assured me they would lay me on the side that is bleeding and fix it since it will most likely show up on screen. Well i can speak from experience....... That is exactly what they will do. It happened during my second embolization, i felt the gurgle and said im bleeding again, they rolled me onto my left side ( because thats where my bleeding was to begin with and thats where the gurgle was from)and the nurse brought a pan to spit it in and stayed at my side and the Intervention Radiologist watched on the screen and sure enough a white dot showed up where it was . It was a very tiny blood vessel so he inserted my first coil and then a second. There doesnt have to be an active bleed since once they are in there they can see on the screen which blood vessels are the most likely culprits or the ones most likely ( enlarged and dilated ones)</end quote></div>

This is very very good to know and I guess in some ways helpful since it is actively happening while they are in there. OF course I suppose that doesnt guarantee its the only spot where there is a bleed, but still I find this comforting.
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

Hi Lauren,

You will be flat and that scared the crap out of me also. I asked the Intervention Radiologist what will happen if i start to bleed and he assured me they would lay me on the side that is bleeding and fix it since it will most likely show up on screen. Well i can speak from experience....... That is exactly what they will do. It happened during my second embolization, i felt the gurgle and said im bleeding again, they rolled me onto my left side ( because thats where my bleeding was to begin with and thats where the gurgle was from)and the nurse brought a pan to spit it in and stayed at my side and the Intervention Radiologist watched on the screen and sure enough a white dot showed up where it was . It was a very tiny blood vessel so he inserted my first coil and then a second. There doesnt have to be an active bleed since once they are in there they can see on the screen which blood vessels are the most likely culprits or the ones most likely ( enlarged and dilated ones)</end quote></div>

This is very very good to know and I guess in some ways helpful since it is actively happening while they are in there. OF course I suppose that doesnt guarantee its the only spot where there is a bleed, but still I find this comforting.
 
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JazzysMom

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

Hi Lauren,

You will be flat and that scared the crap out of me also. I asked the Intervention Radiologist what will happen if i start to bleed and he assured me they would lay me on the side that is bleeding and fix it since it will most likely show up on screen. Well i can speak from experience....... That is exactly what they will do. It happened during my second embolization, i felt the gurgle and said im bleeding again, they rolled me onto my left side ( because thats where my bleeding was to begin with and thats where the gurgle was from)and the nurse brought a pan to spit it in and stayed at my side and the Intervention Radiologist watched on the screen and sure enough a white dot showed up where it was . It was a very tiny blood vessel so he inserted my first coil and then a second. There doesnt have to be an active bleed since once they are in there they can see on the screen which blood vessels are the most likely culprits or the ones most likely ( enlarged and dilated ones)</end quote>

This is very very good to know and I guess in some ways helpful since it is actively happening while they are in there. OF course I suppose that doesnt guarantee its the only spot where there is a bleed, but still I find this comforting.
 
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JazzysMom

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

Hi Lauren,

You will be flat and that scared the crap out of me also. I asked the Intervention Radiologist what will happen if i start to bleed and he assured me they would lay me on the side that is bleeding and fix it since it will most likely show up on screen. Well i can speak from experience....... That is exactly what they will do. It happened during my second embolization, i felt the gurgle and said im bleeding again, they rolled me onto my left side ( because thats where my bleeding was to begin with and thats where the gurgle was from)and the nurse brought a pan to spit it in and stayed at my side and the Intervention Radiologist watched on the screen and sure enough a white dot showed up where it was . It was a very tiny blood vessel so he inserted my first coil and then a second. There doesnt have to be an active bleed since once they are in there they can see on the screen which blood vessels are the most likely culprits or the ones most likely ( enlarged and dilated ones)</end quote>

This is very very good to know and I guess in some ways helpful since it is actively happening while they are in there. OF course I suppose that doesnt guarantee its the only spot where there is a bleed, but still I find this comforting.
 
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