Business of Being Born

tara

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Thanks for the update. I'm interested in seeing it when it comes out on Netflix. Even though personally, I had an elective c-section and wouldn't do anything else different, I am amazed by birth stories. I can't get enough. The whole birthing process fascinates me.

I just looked up the screening dates/locations and we do have one in my home town! Unfortunately it's the night before we leave on vacation. I just can't manage to make it to the screening. Bummer!

Edited again....Yay! It's already on Netflix. I'll add it to my queue.
 

tara

New member
Thanks for the update. I'm interested in seeing it when it comes out on Netflix. Even though personally, I had an elective c-section and wouldn't do anything else different, I am amazed by birth stories. I can't get enough. The whole birthing process fascinates me.

I just looked up the screening dates/locations and we do have one in my home town! Unfortunately it's the night before we leave on vacation. I just can't manage to make it to the screening. Bummer!

Edited again....Yay! It's already on Netflix. I'll add it to my queue.
 

tara

New member
Thanks for the update. I'm interested in seeing it when it comes out on Netflix. Even though personally, I had an elective c-section and wouldn't do anything else different, I am amazed by birth stories. I can't get enough. The whole birthing process fascinates me.

I just looked up the screening dates/locations and we do have one in my home town! Unfortunately it's the night before we leave on vacation. I just can't manage to make it to the screening. Bummer!

Edited again....Yay! It's already on Netflix. I'll add it to my queue.
 

tara

New member
Thanks for the update. I'm interested in seeing it when it comes out on Netflix. Even though personally, I had an elective c-section and wouldn't do anything else different, I am amazed by birth stories. I can't get enough. The whole birthing process fascinates me.

I just looked up the screening dates/locations and we do have one in my home town! Unfortunately it's the night before we leave on vacation. I just can't manage to make it to the screening. Bummer!

Edited again....Yay! It's already on Netflix. I'll add it to my queue.
 

tara

New member
Thanks for the update. I'm interested in seeing it when it comes out on Netflix. Even though personally, I had an elective c-section and wouldn't do anything else different, I am amazed by birth stories. I can't get enough. The whole birthing process fascinates me.
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<br />I just looked up the screening dates/locations and we do have one in my home town! Unfortunately it's the night before we leave on vacation. I just can't manage to make it to the screening. Bummer!
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<br />Edited again....Yay! It's already on Netflix. I'll add it to my queue.
 
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Keepercjr

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Tara

I totally respect your decision to have a c/s. The thing is - it was your decision! You weren't bullied into it or told your babies might die unless you did what the doctor told you to do. I'm all about women making the decisions that are right for them. Of course we listen to our doctors but that doesn't mean they have the final say in the matter or that they are even correct all the time. The film was totally about women being informed and aware of their choices and options, and that we do have a voice. I'd say the average mainstream women has little knowledge that they actually have lots of choices when it comes to childbirth. (not just where to have the baby, but they can refuse medications, procedures, etc.). The local hospitals have the "no eating while in labor" rule and I guarantee you that almost nobody questions it. Yet when my SIL drew up her birth plan and had her DR sign it, the DR agreed she could have food to eat while in labor if she did end up in the hospital (She's due any day and planning a homebirth).
 
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Keepercjr

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Tara

I totally respect your decision to have a c/s. The thing is - it was your decision! You weren't bullied into it or told your babies might die unless you did what the doctor told you to do. I'm all about women making the decisions that are right for them. Of course we listen to our doctors but that doesn't mean they have the final say in the matter or that they are even correct all the time. The film was totally about women being informed and aware of their choices and options, and that we do have a voice. I'd say the average mainstream women has little knowledge that they actually have lots of choices when it comes to childbirth. (not just where to have the baby, but they can refuse medications, procedures, etc.). The local hospitals have the "no eating while in labor" rule and I guarantee you that almost nobody questions it. Yet when my SIL drew up her birth plan and had her DR sign it, the DR agreed she could have food to eat while in labor if she did end up in the hospital (She's due any day and planning a homebirth).
 
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Keepercjr

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Tara

I totally respect your decision to have a c/s. The thing is - it was your decision! You weren't bullied into it or told your babies might die unless you did what the doctor told you to do. I'm all about women making the decisions that are right for them. Of course we listen to our doctors but that doesn't mean they have the final say in the matter or that they are even correct all the time. The film was totally about women being informed and aware of their choices and options, and that we do have a voice. I'd say the average mainstream women has little knowledge that they actually have lots of choices when it comes to childbirth. (not just where to have the baby, but they can refuse medications, procedures, etc.). The local hospitals have the "no eating while in labor" rule and I guarantee you that almost nobody questions it. Yet when my SIL drew up her birth plan and had her DR sign it, the DR agreed she could have food to eat while in labor if she did end up in the hospital (She's due any day and planning a homebirth).
 
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Keepercjr

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Tara

I totally respect your decision to have a c/s. The thing is - it was your decision! You weren't bullied into it or told your babies might die unless you did what the doctor told you to do. I'm all about women making the decisions that are right for them. Of course we listen to our doctors but that doesn't mean they have the final say in the matter or that they are even correct all the time. The film was totally about women being informed and aware of their choices and options, and that we do have a voice. I'd say the average mainstream women has little knowledge that they actually have lots of choices when it comes to childbirth. (not just where to have the baby, but they can refuse medications, procedures, etc.). The local hospitals have the "no eating while in labor" rule and I guarantee you that almost nobody questions it. Yet when my SIL drew up her birth plan and had her DR sign it, the DR agreed she could have food to eat while in labor if she did end up in the hospital (She's due any day and planning a homebirth).
 
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Keepercjr

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Tara
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<br />I totally respect your decision to have a c/s. The thing is - it was your decision! You weren't bullied into it or told your babies might die unless you did what the doctor told you to do. I'm all about women making the decisions that are right for them. Of course we listen to our doctors but that doesn't mean they have the final say in the matter or that they are even correct all the time. The film was totally about women being informed and aware of their choices and options, and that we do have a voice. I'd say the average mainstream women has little knowledge that they actually have lots of choices when it comes to childbirth. (not just where to have the baby, but they can refuse medications, procedures, etc.). The local hospitals have the "no eating while in labor" rule and I guarantee you that almost nobody questions it. Yet when my SIL drew up her birth plan and had her DR sign it, the DR agreed she could have food to eat while in labor if she did end up in the hospital (She's due any day and planning a homebirth).
 

wanderlost

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It's not coming anywhere near me. bummer. I will have to wait. I was teary eyed at the trailer though. Having had a natural (albeit hospital) birth I am very very much inn love with the process of birth - and as you say - the choices. LIke you said to Tara, while I would never want a c/s - it was her choice - she elected to do that, versus being bullied and scare tactticed into it. But the beauty and power of birth is so amazing, it is our job as women and moms not to allow that to be taken away from us, so a film like this looks to be a great thing.
 

wanderlost

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It's not coming anywhere near me. bummer. I will have to wait. I was teary eyed at the trailer though. Having had a natural (albeit hospital) birth I am very very much inn love with the process of birth - and as you say - the choices. LIke you said to Tara, while I would never want a c/s - it was her choice - she elected to do that, versus being bullied and scare tactticed into it. But the beauty and power of birth is so amazing, it is our job as women and moms not to allow that to be taken away from us, so a film like this looks to be a great thing.
 

wanderlost

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It's not coming anywhere near me. bummer. I will have to wait. I was teary eyed at the trailer though. Having had a natural (albeit hospital) birth I am very very much inn love with the process of birth - and as you say - the choices. LIke you said to Tara, while I would never want a c/s - it was her choice - she elected to do that, versus being bullied and scare tactticed into it. But the beauty and power of birth is so amazing, it is our job as women and moms not to allow that to be taken away from us, so a film like this looks to be a great thing.
 

wanderlost

New member
It's not coming anywhere near me. bummer. I will have to wait. I was teary eyed at the trailer though. Having had a natural (albeit hospital) birth I am very very much inn love with the process of birth - and as you say - the choices. LIke you said to Tara, while I would never want a c/s - it was her choice - she elected to do that, versus being bullied and scare tactticed into it. But the beauty and power of birth is so amazing, it is our job as women and moms not to allow that to be taken away from us, so a film like this looks to be a great thing.
 

wanderlost

New member
It's not coming anywhere near me. bummer. I will have to wait. I was teary eyed at the trailer though. Having had a natural (albeit hospital) birth I am very very much inn love with the process of birth - and as you say - the choices. LIke you said to Tara, while I would never want a c/s - it was her choice - she elected to do that, versus being bullied and scare tactticed into it. But the beauty and power of birth is so amazing, it is our job as women and moms not to allow that to be taken away from us, so a film like this looks to be a great thing.
 

Scarlett81

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i am dying to see it. i don't think that home births are a great thing in all cases (at least for cfers)-in this world, if something did go wrong and you didn't make it to the hosp, i couldn't live with that knowledge, wondering, what if?....
BUT-as most know I am a huge proponent of natural births and i agree 100% with the philosophy ricki lake is preaching.
birth has been distorted to be a medical condition-not a natural part of life that a woman's body was made to be able to do.
for ladies who have never given birth or haven't seen a live birth, it is not at all what the media has portrayed.
birth isn't a screaming nutso red faced woman...it is very calm, albeit intense, but a controlled peaceful experience.

to say this isn't knocking anyone who had to have a c sec or who chose a c sec. its simply this:
a c sec is a major surgery. (anytime u are cutting such a major muscle group near vital organs, it is a major surgery) that being said, isn't it wrong for doctors to push uneccesary c sec's on women that are capable of giving birth vaignally as nature intended? i think most people would agree that 'nature' intended for babies to come out vaginally...duh.
sometimes we must intervene in nature to save lives of mom and baby. my doula said it this way-a c sec is an amazing life saving surgery-when done only to save a life. not done to make a birth convenient, or a controlled situation for a doctor.
c sec's are easier in some ways for docs bc vaginal birth can take many different roads, can stall and be unexpected. for c sec's, you schedule it (usually), the doc doesn't have to wait around for dilation of the cervix, you open up and take out and it eliminates much guess work for docs. the problem is that like all major surgeries there is risk involved, and there can be extremely difficult recoveries for some, it can reduce your ability to have further preg's, and it can be emotionally difficult for mom afterwards. (would someone chose to have a huge surgery if they didn't need it....of course not.)

when i and most moms talk about c sec's in a negative light, this is the type we are referring to. it is not attacking anyone who has had one, not at all. its not taking away the legitimacy of your labor or birth experience. hugs.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i am dying to see it. i don't think that home births are a great thing in all cases (at least for cfers)-in this world, if something did go wrong and you didn't make it to the hosp, i couldn't live with that knowledge, wondering, what if?....
BUT-as most know I am a huge proponent of natural births and i agree 100% with the philosophy ricki lake is preaching.
birth has been distorted to be a medical condition-not a natural part of life that a woman's body was made to be able to do.
for ladies who have never given birth or haven't seen a live birth, it is not at all what the media has portrayed.
birth isn't a screaming nutso red faced woman...it is very calm, albeit intense, but a controlled peaceful experience.

to say this isn't knocking anyone who had to have a c sec or who chose a c sec. its simply this:
a c sec is a major surgery. (anytime u are cutting such a major muscle group near vital organs, it is a major surgery) that being said, isn't it wrong for doctors to push uneccesary c sec's on women that are capable of giving birth vaignally as nature intended? i think most people would agree that 'nature' intended for babies to come out vaginally...duh.
sometimes we must intervene in nature to save lives of mom and baby. my doula said it this way-a c sec is an amazing life saving surgery-when done only to save a life. not done to make a birth convenient, or a controlled situation for a doctor.
c sec's are easier in some ways for docs bc vaginal birth can take many different roads, can stall and be unexpected. for c sec's, you schedule it (usually), the doc doesn't have to wait around for dilation of the cervix, you open up and take out and it eliminates much guess work for docs. the problem is that like all major surgeries there is risk involved, and there can be extremely difficult recoveries for some, it can reduce your ability to have further preg's, and it can be emotionally difficult for mom afterwards. (would someone chose to have a huge surgery if they didn't need it....of course not.)

when i and most moms talk about c sec's in a negative light, this is the type we are referring to. it is not attacking anyone who has had one, not at all. its not taking away the legitimacy of your labor or birth experience. hugs.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i am dying to see it. i don't think that home births are a great thing in all cases (at least for cfers)-in this world, if something did go wrong and you didn't make it to the hosp, i couldn't live with that knowledge, wondering, what if?....
BUT-as most know I am a huge proponent of natural births and i agree 100% with the philosophy ricki lake is preaching.
birth has been distorted to be a medical condition-not a natural part of life that a woman's body was made to be able to do.
for ladies who have never given birth or haven't seen a live birth, it is not at all what the media has portrayed.
birth isn't a screaming nutso red faced woman...it is very calm, albeit intense, but a controlled peaceful experience.

to say this isn't knocking anyone who had to have a c sec or who chose a c sec. its simply this:
a c sec is a major surgery. (anytime u are cutting such a major muscle group near vital organs, it is a major surgery) that being said, isn't it wrong for doctors to push uneccesary c sec's on women that are capable of giving birth vaignally as nature intended? i think most people would agree that 'nature' intended for babies to come out vaginally...duh.
sometimes we must intervene in nature to save lives of mom and baby. my doula said it this way-a c sec is an amazing life saving surgery-when done only to save a life. not done to make a birth convenient, or a controlled situation for a doctor.
c sec's are easier in some ways for docs bc vaginal birth can take many different roads, can stall and be unexpected. for c sec's, you schedule it (usually), the doc doesn't have to wait around for dilation of the cervix, you open up and take out and it eliminates much guess work for docs. the problem is that like all major surgeries there is risk involved, and there can be extremely difficult recoveries for some, it can reduce your ability to have further preg's, and it can be emotionally difficult for mom afterwards. (would someone chose to have a huge surgery if they didn't need it....of course not.)

when i and most moms talk about c sec's in a negative light, this is the type we are referring to. it is not attacking anyone who has had one, not at all. its not taking away the legitimacy of your labor or birth experience. hugs.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i am dying to see it. i don't think that home births are a great thing in all cases (at least for cfers)-in this world, if something did go wrong and you didn't make it to the hosp, i couldn't live with that knowledge, wondering, what if?....
BUT-as most know I am a huge proponent of natural births and i agree 100% with the philosophy ricki lake is preaching.
birth has been distorted to be a medical condition-not a natural part of life that a woman's body was made to be able to do.
for ladies who have never given birth or haven't seen a live birth, it is not at all what the media has portrayed.
birth isn't a screaming nutso red faced woman...it is very calm, albeit intense, but a controlled peaceful experience.

to say this isn't knocking anyone who had to have a c sec or who chose a c sec. its simply this:
a c sec is a major surgery. (anytime u are cutting such a major muscle group near vital organs, it is a major surgery) that being said, isn't it wrong for doctors to push uneccesary c sec's on women that are capable of giving birth vaignally as nature intended? i think most people would agree that 'nature' intended for babies to come out vaginally...duh.
sometimes we must intervene in nature to save lives of mom and baby. my doula said it this way-a c sec is an amazing life saving surgery-when done only to save a life. not done to make a birth convenient, or a controlled situation for a doctor.
c sec's are easier in some ways for docs bc vaginal birth can take many different roads, can stall and be unexpected. for c sec's, you schedule it (usually), the doc doesn't have to wait around for dilation of the cervix, you open up and take out and it eliminates much guess work for docs. the problem is that like all major surgeries there is risk involved, and there can be extremely difficult recoveries for some, it can reduce your ability to have further preg's, and it can be emotionally difficult for mom afterwards. (would someone chose to have a huge surgery if they didn't need it....of course not.)

when i and most moms talk about c sec's in a negative light, this is the type we are referring to. it is not attacking anyone who has had one, not at all. its not taking away the legitimacy of your labor or birth experience. hugs.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i am dying to see it. i don't think that home births are a great thing in all cases (at least for cfers)-in this world, if something did go wrong and you didn't make it to the hosp, i couldn't live with that knowledge, wondering, what if?....
<br />BUT-as most know I am a huge proponent of natural births and i agree 100% with the philosophy ricki lake is preaching.
<br />birth has been distorted to be a medical condition-not a natural part of life that a woman's body was made to be able to do.
<br />for ladies who have never given birth or haven't seen a live birth, it is not at all what the media has portrayed.
<br />birth isn't a screaming nutso red faced woman...it is very calm, albeit intense, but a controlled peaceful experience.
<br />
<br />to say this isn't knocking anyone who had to have a c sec or who chose a c sec. its simply this:
<br />a c sec is a major surgery. (anytime u are cutting such a major muscle group near vital organs, it is a major surgery) that being said, isn't it wrong for doctors to push uneccesary c sec's on women that are capable of giving birth vaignally as nature intended? i think most people would agree that 'nature' intended for babies to come out vaginally...duh.
<br />sometimes we must intervene in nature to save lives of mom and baby. my doula said it this way-a c sec is an amazing life saving surgery-when done only to save a life. not done to make a birth convenient, or a controlled situation for a doctor.
<br />c sec's are easier in some ways for docs bc vaginal birth can take many different roads, can stall and be unexpected. for c sec's, you schedule it (usually), the doc doesn't have to wait around for dilation of the cervix, you open up and take out and it eliminates much guess work for docs. the problem is that like all major surgeries there is risk involved, and there can be extremely difficult recoveries for some, it can reduce your ability to have further preg's, and it can be emotionally difficult for mom afterwards. (would someone chose to have a huge surgery if they didn't need it....of course not.)
<br />
<br />when i and most moms talk about c sec's in a negative light, this is the type we are referring to. it is not attacking anyone who has had one, not at all. its not taking away the legitimacy of your labor or birth experience. hugs.
 
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