Can somebody give me some answers, please!

Printer

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Keely:

I recently had to change CF Clinics because I strongly felt that the CF Doctor I was seeing was not listening to me. Now I'm 72 and much older than that Doctor, and I have two college degrees, so I can only wonder as to how little your Doctor is listening to you.

Go to see the adult Cf Doctor. Bring him/her a copy of what you have written here, also give a copy to your parents. It is pretty clear to me that you need a change in Doctors. At 15 1/2 / 16 you should be seeing an adult CF Doctor anyway. Hopefully the new Doctor will listen to you.

Good luck,
Bill
 

Printer

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Keely:

I recently had to change CF Clinics because I strongly felt that the CF Doctor I was seeing was not listening to me. Now I'm 72 and much older than that Doctor, and I have two college degrees, so I can only wonder as to how little your Doctor is listening to you.

Go to see the adult Cf Doctor. Bring him/her a copy of what you have written here, also give a copy to your parents. It is pretty clear to me that you need a change in Doctors. At 15 1/2 / 16 you should be seeing an adult CF Doctor anyway. Hopefully the new Doctor will listen to you.

Good luck,
Bill
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jessykt</b></i> As Justducky mentioned, what bugs are you growing? I just went to the doctor Monday with shortness of breath (pfts around 48%) and while I grow 3-4 bugs, the psuedomonas is acting up and she thinks that's the culprit. I wanted prednisone for a few days and I went back on cayston. Hypertonic has been a real life saver, I think, that it makes you cough more stuff out (I do 7%). So I think between the steroid for inflammation and an antibiotic for the bug, I've been feeling a bit better. I know it's difficult, but push yourself a bit each day for exercise. I HATE to exercise, but take the dog on a walk everyday. Some days are more difficult, but the ones that are easier I think are doing me so much good. It's a good indicator on how you are feeling in general over all. Good luck!</end quote>I grow<em>Pseudomonas, Staph, Aspergillus, scedosporium, candida. </em>I think that's it. I grow them all but not all at the same time. I can't remember what my last sputum cultured-sorry. I just got two weeks IV's for Pseudo though. I can't tolerate hypertonic, I nearly cough all my insides out! I will do the exercise cos I'd do anything at this stage(I hate it to!).
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jessykt</b></i> As Justducky mentioned, what bugs are you growing? I just went to the doctor Monday with shortness of breath (pfts around 48%) and while I grow 3-4 bugs, the psuedomonas is acting up and she thinks that's the culprit. I wanted prednisone for a few days and I went back on cayston. Hypertonic has been a real life saver, I think, that it makes you cough more stuff out (I do 7%). So I think between the steroid for inflammation and an antibiotic for the bug, I've been feeling a bit better. I know it's difficult, but push yourself a bit each day for exercise. I HATE to exercise, but take the dog on a walk everyday. Some days are more difficult, but the ones that are easier I think are doing me so much good. It's a good indicator on how you are feeling in general over all. Good luck!</end quote>I grow<em>Pseudomonas, Staph, Aspergillus, scedosporium, candida. </em>I think that's it. I grow them all but not all at the same time. I can't remember what my last sputum cultured-sorry. I just got two weeks IV's for Pseudo though. I can't tolerate hypertonic, I nearly cough all my insides out! I will do the exercise cos I'd do anything at this stage(I hate it to!).
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BelEAche</b></i> Hi Keely, I dont have much more to add.. unfortunately we almost have to become like detectives to figure things out at times.. it can be very frustrating !! I hope you get some answers & start feeling better soon ! Keep us posted <img src=""> joni</end quote>Thank you for your kind words Joni! :D
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BelEAche</b></i> Hi Keely, I dont have much more to add.. unfortunately we almost have to become like detectives to figure things out at times.. it can be very frustrating !! I hope you get some answers & start feeling better soon ! Keep us posted <img src=""> joni</end quote>Thank you for your kind words Joni! :D
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Printer</b></i> Keely: I recently had to change CF Clinics because I strongly felt that the CF Doctor I was seeing was not listening to me. Now I'm 72 and much older than that Doctor, and I have two college degrees, so I can only wonder as to how little your Doctor is listening to you. Go to see the adult Cf Doctor. Bring him/her a copy of what you have written here, also give a copy to your parents. It is pretty clear to me that you need a change in Doctors. At 15 1/2 / 16 you should be seeing an adult CF Doctor anyway. Hopefully the new Doctor will listen to you. Good luck, Bill</end quote> Thanks, Bill. Over here in Ireland, the CF services are terrible for adults. The average age is 21 and the hospital that I would be transfered to mixes CF's in rooms. That's right, you'd be sleeping in a ward with 6 people and two of them might have CF, MRSA or some other thing that CF's shouldn't be mixing with. One young CFman of 21 or 22 contracted MRSA in the hospital and died.So although I'm <em>really</em> not a fan of the doctor I'm with, I really don't want to move hospital unless I absolutely, positively have to. I plan to move country after I leave school anyway, but we'll have to see if that happens. Moving country is hard enough without knowing that the only reason you have to do it is because the government won't help those who desperately need it. Thanks again and good luck with that new doctor, Keely.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Printer</b></i> Keely: I recently had to change CF Clinics because I strongly felt that the CF Doctor I was seeing was not listening to me. Now I'm 72 and much older than that Doctor, and I have two college degrees, so I can only wonder as to how little your Doctor is listening to you. Go to see the adult Cf Doctor. Bring him/her a copy of what you have written here, also give a copy to your parents. It is pretty clear to me that you need a change in Doctors. At 15 1/2 / 16 you should be seeing an adult CF Doctor anyway. Hopefully the new Doctor will listen to you. Good luck, Bill</end quote> Thanks, Bill. Over here in Ireland, the CF services are terrible for adults. The average age is 21 and the hospital that I would be transfered to mixes CF's in rooms. That's right, you'd be sleeping in a ward with 6 people and two of them might have CF, MRSA or some other thing that CF's shouldn't be mixing with. One young CFman of 21 or 22 contracted MRSA in the hospital and died.So although I'm <em>really</em> not a fan of the doctor I'm with, I really don't want to move hospital unless I absolutely, positively have to. I plan to move country after I leave school anyway, but we'll have to see if that happens. Moving country is hard enough without knowing that the only reason you have to do it is because the government won't help those who desperately need it. Thanks again and good luck with that new doctor, Keely.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Printer</b></i> Keely: I recently had to change CF Clinics because I strongly felt that the CF Doctor I was seeing was not listening to me. Now I'm 72 and much older than that Doctor, and I have two college degrees, so I can only wonder as to how little your Doctor is listening to you. Go to see the adult Cf Doctor. Bring him/her a copy of what you have written here, also give a copy to your parents. It is pretty clear to me that you need a change in Doctors. At 15 1/2 / 16 you should be seeing an adult CF Doctor anyway. Hopefully the new Doctor will listen to you. Good luck, Bill</end quote> Thanks, Bill. Over here in Ireland, the CF services are terrible for adults. The average age is 21 and the hospital that I would be transfered to mixes CF's in rooms. That's right, you'd be sleeping in a ward with 6 people and two of them might have CF, MRSA or some other thing that CF's shouldn't be mixing with. One young CFman of 21 or 22 contracted MRSA in the hospital and died.So although I'm <em>really</em> not a fan of the doctor I'm with, I really don't want to move hospital unless I absolutely, positively have to. I plan to move country after I leave school anyway, but we'll have to see if that happens. Moving country is hard enough without knowing that the only reason you have to do it is because the government won't help those who desperately need it. Thanks again and good luck with that new doctor, Keely.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Printer</b></i> Keely: I recently had to change CF Clinics because I strongly felt that the CF Doctor I was seeing was not listening to me. Now I'm 72 and much older than that Doctor, and I have two college degrees, so I can only wonder as to how little your Doctor is listening to you. Go to see the adult Cf Doctor. Bring him/her a copy of what you have written here, also give a copy to your parents. It is pretty clear to me that you need a change in Doctors. At 15 1/2 / 16 you should be seeing an adult CF Doctor anyway. Hopefully the new Doctor will listen to you. Good luck, Bill</end quote> Thanks, Bill. Over here in Ireland, the CF services are terrible for adults. The average age is 21 and the hospital that I would be transfered to mixes CF's in rooms. That's right, you'd be sleeping in a ward with 6 people and two of them might have CF, MRSA or some other thing that CF's shouldn't be mixing with. One young CFman of 21 or 22 contracted MRSA in the hospital and died.So although I'm <em>really</em> not a fan of the doctor I'm with, I really don't want to move hospital unless I absolutely, positively have to. I plan to move country after I leave school anyway, but we'll have to see if that happens. Moving country is hard enough without knowing that the only reason you have to do it is because the government won't help those who desperately need it. Thanks again and good luck with that new doctor, Keely.
 

rmotion

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Yeah the blood sugar is a good thing to look at.
Also it could be inflammation and obviously what bugs are there.
The big thing for me is nutritional issues and food allergies. We are sensitive to so many foods that it can really affect your health.
I would look at gluten and dairy as a culprit.
 

rmotion

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Yeah the blood sugar is a good thing to look at.
Also it could be inflammation and obviously what bugs are there.
The big thing for me is nutritional issues and food allergies. We are sensitive to so many foods that it can really affect your health.
I would look at gluten and dairy as a culprit.
 

dbsholes

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Keely,

Your post really pulled at my heart-strings. I feel so bad for you. But something is almost certainly going on to cause this sudden (and severe) drop in your PFTs. All the advise you have received so far is excellent. What a great group! I would like to know what various nebulizers you are on, whether you are using The Vest or not, and how much sputum you actually bring up.

If you doing your treatments and some form of chest percussion and are not bringing much up, that indicates that you have more of an inflammatory issue. If you aren't bringing much up but also aren't doing your full course of treatments then you need to really crack down on your treatments and see if that changes what you bring up. If you are bringing a lot up and still feel this bad then it's possible you have contracted a new bug that you're not aware of. I would DEMAND a sputum culture immediately, since you indicate that you haven't had one for awhile.

Regarding the hypertonic - have you tried cutting the amount of salt in your mixture? Perhaps your recipe is too strong for you. Perhaps give that a try.

Also, regarding blood sugar and possible diabetes, I know that you would have to fight for this from your doctors, but my endocrinologist strongly believes that ALL people with cf should be on insulin whether they are diabetic or not. Insulin effects the body in all kinds of ways that nobody fully understands. It is an anti-inflammatory, it helps with food absorbtion, it helps with depression and attitude, etc. Even a very small amount of insulin a day - like one or two units - could have a positive effect.

Keep up the fight Keely.

David Sholes
Bennington, Vermont

45 yo male DDF508, CFRD, etc etc.
 

dbsholes

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Keely,

Your post really pulled at my heart-strings. I feel so bad for you. But something is almost certainly going on to cause this sudden (and severe) drop in your PFTs. All the advise you have received so far is excellent. What a great group! I would like to know what various nebulizers you are on, whether you are using The Vest or not, and how much sputum you actually bring up.

If you doing your treatments and some form of chest percussion and are not bringing much up, that indicates that you have more of an inflammatory issue. If you aren't bringing much up but also aren't doing your full course of treatments then you need to really crack down on your treatments and see if that changes what you bring up. If you are bringing a lot up and still feel this bad then it's possible you have contracted a new bug that you're not aware of. I would DEMAND a sputum culture immediately, since you indicate that you haven't had one for awhile.

Regarding the hypertonic - have you tried cutting the amount of salt in your mixture? Perhaps your recipe is too strong for you. Perhaps give that a try.

Also, regarding blood sugar and possible diabetes, I know that you would have to fight for this from your doctors, but my endocrinologist strongly believes that ALL people with cf should be on insulin whether they are diabetic or not. Insulin effects the body in all kinds of ways that nobody fully understands. It is an anti-inflammatory, it helps with food absorbtion, it helps with depression and attitude, etc. Even a very small amount of insulin a day - like one or two units - could have a positive effect.

Keep up the fight Keely.

David Sholes
Bennington, Vermont

45 yo male DDF508, CFRD, etc etc.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>rmotion</b></i> Yeah the blood sugar is a good thing to look at. Also it could be inflammation and obviously what bugs are there. The big thing for me is nutritional issues and food allergies. We are sensitive to so many foods that it can really affect your health. I would look at gluten and dairy as a culprit.</end quote>Do you know would food intolerance cause around the clock breathlessness? I do worry that I am intolerant to some foods as after eating some things I will bloat up like a balloon and get bad stomach cramps. But having bowel problems, I just thought that was the reason.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>rmotion</b></i> Yeah the blood sugar is a good thing to look at. Also it could be inflammation and obviously what bugs are there. The big thing for me is nutritional issues and food allergies. We are sensitive to so many foods that it can really affect your health. I would look at gluten and dairy as a culprit.</end quote>Do you know would food intolerance cause around the clock breathlessness? I do worry that I am intolerant to some foods as after eating some things I will bloat up like a balloon and get bad stomach cramps. But having bowel problems, I just thought that was the reason.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbsholes</b></i> Keely, Your post really pulled at my heart-strings. I feel so bad for you. But something is almost certainly going on to cause this sudden (and severe) drop in your PFTs. All the advise you have received so far is excellent. What a great group! I would like to know what various nebulizers you are on, whether you are using The Vest or not, and how much sputum you actually bring up. If you doing your treatments and some form of chest percussion and are not bringing much up, that indicates that you have more of an inflammatory issue. If you aren't bringing much up but also aren't doing your full course of treatments then you need to really crack down on your treatments and see if that changes what you bring up. If you are bringing a lot up and still feel this bad then it's possible you have contracted a new bug that you're not aware of. I would DEMAND a sputum culture immediately, since you indicate that you haven't had one for awhile. Regarding the hypertonic - have you tried cutting the amount of salt in your mixture? Perhaps your recipe is too strong for you. Perhaps give that a try. Also, regarding blood sugar and possible diabetes, I know that you would have to fight for this from your doctors, but my endocrinologist strongly believes that ALL people with cf should be on insulin whether they are diabetic or not. Insulin effects the body in all kinds of ways that nobody fully understands. It is an anti-inflammatory, it helps with food absorbtion, it helps with depression and attitude, etc. Even a very small amount of insulin a day - like one or two units - could have a positive effect. Keep up the fight Keely. David Sholes Bennington, Vermont 45 yo male DDF508, CFRD, etc etc.</end quote>Thank you David for your reply! My Nebs are: -Ventolin around 3 times a day (at least 2 a day)-Pulmozyne twice a day-Tobi for 28 days then;-Colomycin for 28 daysI do have a Vest, which I use once a day for 20 minutes. I haven't used it for about the past month or so because I was too sick and would end up coughing so much I'd vomit. I'm out of hospital two days now after IV's, so I'll probably start using it again tomorrow. I would bring up maybe 50-60mls (don't ask how I worked that out!) of sputum in the morning and maybe another 20-30mls throughout the day. I cough a lot in the morning but then it basically stops after physio. (As well as the Vest, physio includes Pep Mask and clapping from my mum)Oh, I definately do every single treatment there is. My mum's like a maniac when it comes to CF- everything has to be done and it has to be done 100% perfect! I did have a sputum culture around a month ago- I'd say in the past two years I've had over a hundred done because they test me all the time. I just don't remember what was on it! Moderate pseudo I think and nothing else that was worrying. I had the IV's for pseudo.The HypertonicSaline I was using was called MucoClear and came all ready made and what-not, so I just took it and didn't realiseitcould be taken in smaller doses, as when I said it at the hospital they didn't suggest that, they just told me not to take it anymore. (I just looked up the website and saw they have 3% versions, so I'll try those)The view your doctor has on insulin was very interesting!My doctor barely believes in treating you for severe chest infections, so it's niceto hearyour doctor is trying to improvePWCF's lifes!Thank you again, Keely.
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbsholes</b></i> Keely, Your post really pulled at my heart-strings. I feel so bad for you. But something is almost certainly going on to cause this sudden (and severe) drop in your PFTs. All the advise you have received so far is excellent. What a great group! I would like to know what various nebulizers you are on, whether you are using The Vest or not, and how much sputum you actually bring up. If you doing your treatments and some form of chest percussion and are not bringing much up, that indicates that you have more of an inflammatory issue. If you aren't bringing much up but also aren't doing your full course of treatments then you need to really crack down on your treatments and see if that changes what you bring up. If you are bringing a lot up and still feel this bad then it's possible you have contracted a new bug that you're not aware of. I would DEMAND a sputum culture immediately, since you indicate that you haven't had one for awhile. Regarding the hypertonic - have you tried cutting the amount of salt in your mixture? Perhaps your recipe is too strong for you. Perhaps give that a try. Also, regarding blood sugar and possible diabetes, I know that you would have to fight for this from your doctors, but my endocrinologist strongly believes that ALL people with cf should be on insulin whether they are diabetic or not. Insulin effects the body in all kinds of ways that nobody fully understands. It is an anti-inflammatory, it helps with food absorbtion, it helps with depression and attitude, etc. Even a very small amount of insulin a day - like one or two units - could have a positive effect. Keep up the fight Keely. David Sholes Bennington, Vermont 45 yo male DDF508, CFRD, etc etc.</end quote>Thank you David for your reply! My Nebs are: -Ventolin around 3 times a day (at least 2 a day)-Pulmozyne twice a day-Tobi for 28 days then;-Colomycin for 28 daysI do have a Vest, which I use once a day for 20 minutes. I haven't used it for about the past month or so because I was too sick and would end up coughing so much I'd vomit. I'm out of hospital two days now after IV's, so I'll probably start using it again tomorrow. I would bring up maybe 50-60mls (don't ask how I worked that out!) of sputum in the morning and maybe another 20-30mls throughout the day. I cough a lot in the morning but then it basically stops after physio. (As well as the Vest, physio includes Pep Mask and clapping from my mum)Oh, I definately do every single treatment there is. My mum's like a maniac when it comes to CF- everything has to be done and it has to be done 100% perfect! I did have a sputum culture around a month ago- I'd say in the past two years I've had over a hundred done because they test me all the time. I just don't remember what was on it! Moderate pseudo I think and nothing else that was worrying. I had the IV's for pseudo.The HypertonicSaline I was using was called MucoClear and came all ready made and what-not, so I just took it and didn't realiseitcould be taken in smaller doses, as when I said it at the hospital they didn't suggest that, they just told me not to take it anymore. (I just looked up the website and saw they have 3% versions, so I'll try those)The view your doctor has on insulin was very interesting!My doctor barely believes in treating you for severe chest infections, so it's niceto hearyour doctor is trying to improvePWCF's lifes!Thank you again, Keely.
 

jdmd

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I would definitely look into ABPA (allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis). To do this, they look at your IgE levels (sky high in ABPA) and specific IgG antibodies to aspergillus. I had ABPA and when it is active, it really leads to shortness of breath. Tell your doctor you need to have this evaluated!
Good luck.
 

jdmd

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I would definitely look into ABPA (allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis). To do this, they look at your IgE levels (sky high in ABPA) and specific IgG antibodies to aspergillus. I had ABPA and when it is active, it really leads to shortness of breath. Tell your doctor you need to have this evaluated!
Good luck.
 
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