Can somebody give me some answers, please!

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jdmd</b></i> I would definitely look into ABPA (allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis). To do this, they look at your IgE levels (sky high in ABPA) and specific IgG antibodies to aspergillus. I had ABPA and when it is active, it really leads to shortness of breath. Tell your doctor you need to have this evaluated! Good luck.</end quote>If I remember right I think my IgE level was in the 60's. I will ask for it to be done again. Thank you. Does anyone know can you demand to have allthese tests done? Or if they say no, is that it?
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jdmd</b></i> I would definitely look into ABPA (allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis). To do this, they look at your IgE levels (sky high in ABPA) and specific IgG antibodies to aspergillus. I had ABPA and when it is active, it really leads to shortness of breath. Tell your doctor you need to have this evaluated! Good luck.</end quote>If I remember right I think my IgE level was in the 60's. I will ask for it to be done again. Thank you. Does anyone know can you demand to have allthese tests done? Or if they say no, is that it?
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jdmd</b></i> I would definitely look into ABPA (allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis). To do this, they look at your IgE levels (sky high in ABPA) and specific IgG antibodies to aspergillus. I had ABPA and when it is active, it really leads to shortness of breath. Tell your doctor you need to have this evaluated! Good luck.</end quote>I think my IgE level was in the 60's. I will ask for them to be done again! Thank you!Does anyone know can I demand all these tests? Or if they say no, is that it?
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jdmd</b></i> I would definitely look into ABPA (allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis). To do this, they look at your IgE levels (sky high in ABPA) and specific IgG antibodies to aspergillus. I had ABPA and when it is active, it really leads to shortness of breath. Tell your doctor you need to have this evaluated! Good luck.</end quote>I think my IgE level was in the 60's. I will ask for them to be done again! Thank you!Does anyone know can I demand all these tests? Or if they say no, is that it?
 

dbsholes

New member
Keely,

I agree with the above post from jdmd about ABPA. The only time in my life when my PFTs took a severe dive was a result of ABPA - which I hadn't even heard of before then. Aspergillis is the mold that grows on any kind of rotting vegetation. It's the mold you'll see on onions; it's the mold that is rampant in all gardens, especially those with organic mulch or compost. It is in part what makes compost compost. Living in Ireland you are clearly at a disadvantage - with a humid environment and I would imagine lots of vegetation.

Anyway, eight years ago my PFTs, which were regularly in the high 80s/ low 90s, suddenly plummeted to the 50s and I was highly short of breath, really for the first time in my life. My pseudomonas A levels had also skyrockted so I was hospitalized and treated with IV antibiotics for the pseudo. Just as I was about to be released after two weeks a young doctor thought to do an IgE blood test and it came back very high. So ABPA was the primary infection, but was not being treated (ABPA requires anti-virals, not antibiotics) while the Pseudo was a secondary infection taking advantage of my lungs already compromised state. Pseudo is like a mugger that only attacks old ladies - once your lungs are compromised by something else then the Pseudo will attack and multiply. Oftentimes something else, like ABPA is the primary infection. Not all doctors catch this. I was released from the hospital with oral anti-virals and the infection cleared up within a couple of weeks.

Have you ever tried laying down or napping with your vest? It can be very relaxing. Put the vest on first and lie down, then attach the tubes and turn the unit on (this is so the backside of the vest doesn't fully fill up, which is uncomfortable when you are lying down). If you're at all sleepy you can set the vest for a full hour and you may actually fall asleep. I also listen to my ipod while doing this quiet soothing music can help you fall asleep. I find that I will oftentimes not cough as much while I'm laying down, but will really clear out a lot of mucus once I get up. I also use the vest while pedaling a stationary bicycle. Get creative and see what works for you.

My pulmonary team has pointed out that if I cough so much that I can't even use the vest, that indicates just how much I NEED to use it. I know it can be painful, all that coughing, but it is actually very good exercise for your lungs and diaphram. When you have cf coughing is good. It's a nuisance, but it's good.

It's also true however that if you have some underlying infection that is causing this you could spend 24 hours a day in the vest and doing nebs and it's not going to solve the root problem. You've got to find out what has caused the rapid drop in your PFTs. And if your current doctor isn't being helpful then you need to interview some new doctors. Trust me, at 45 I have long-since learned that YOU have to be your own advocate for your health. Nobody else is going to do it for you - not even the doctors who we trust so much to look out for our best interests.

Keep us informed of your progress. If you want to email me directly you can at david@sholes.org. You can also find me on facebook: David Bardon Sholes

Best,
David Sholes
Bennington, Vermont
 

dbsholes

New member
Keely,

I agree with the above post from jdmd about ABPA. The only time in my life when my PFTs took a severe dive was a result of ABPA - which I hadn't even heard of before then. Aspergillis is the mold that grows on any kind of rotting vegetation. It's the mold you'll see on onions; it's the mold that is rampant in all gardens, especially those with organic mulch or compost. It is in part what makes compost compost. Living in Ireland you are clearly at a disadvantage - with a humid environment and I would imagine lots of vegetation.

Anyway, eight years ago my PFTs, which were regularly in the high 80s/ low 90s, suddenly plummeted to the 50s and I was highly short of breath, really for the first time in my life. My pseudomonas A levels had also skyrockted so I was hospitalized and treated with IV antibiotics for the pseudo. Just as I was about to be released after two weeks a young doctor thought to do an IgE blood test and it came back very high. So ABPA was the primary infection, but was not being treated (ABPA requires anti-virals, not antibiotics) while the Pseudo was a secondary infection taking advantage of my lungs already compromised state. Pseudo is like a mugger that only attacks old ladies - once your lungs are compromised by something else then the Pseudo will attack and multiply. Oftentimes something else, like ABPA is the primary infection. Not all doctors catch this. I was released from the hospital with oral anti-virals and the infection cleared up within a couple of weeks.

Have you ever tried laying down or napping with your vest? It can be very relaxing. Put the vest on first and lie down, then attach the tubes and turn the unit on (this is so the backside of the vest doesn't fully fill up, which is uncomfortable when you are lying down). If you're at all sleepy you can set the vest for a full hour and you may actually fall asleep. I also listen to my ipod while doing this quiet soothing music can help you fall asleep. I find that I will oftentimes not cough as much while I'm laying down, but will really clear out a lot of mucus once I get up. I also use the vest while pedaling a stationary bicycle. Get creative and see what works for you.

My pulmonary team has pointed out that if I cough so much that I can't even use the vest, that indicates just how much I NEED to use it. I know it can be painful, all that coughing, but it is actually very good exercise for your lungs and diaphram. When you have cf coughing is good. It's a nuisance, but it's good.

It's also true however that if you have some underlying infection that is causing this you could spend 24 hours a day in the vest and doing nebs and it's not going to solve the root problem. You've got to find out what has caused the rapid drop in your PFTs. And if your current doctor isn't being helpful then you need to interview some new doctors. Trust me, at 45 I have long-since learned that YOU have to be your own advocate for your health. Nobody else is going to do it for you - not even the doctors who we trust so much to look out for our best interests.

Keep us informed of your progress. If you want to email me directly you can at david@sholes.org. You can also find me on facebook: David Bardon Sholes

Best,
David Sholes
Bennington, Vermont
 
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jacobus

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Inhaled Tobi and Coly leave me with extreme shortness of breath. The strange thing is that it doesn't kick in until about day 5 or 6 of treatment, then it's like a smack in in the face. If I remove the nebs, I go back to normal.
 
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jacobus

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Inhaled Tobi and Coly leave me with extreme shortness of breath. The strange thing is that it doesn't kick in until about day 5 or 6 of treatment, then it's like a smack in in the face. If I remove the nebs, I go back to normal.
 

dbsholes

New member
"Does anyone know can I demand all these tests? Or if they say no, is that it?"

YES!! Demand, kick, scream, threaten. Be an absolute pain in the arse if you have to. It's YOUR life afterall - not theirs. You HAVE to be your own advocate and fight for what you need, especially in the age of rationed health care. You will very soon know your own body and your own disease better than anyone else, although they will always presume that they do.

Here's another good trick. Whenever a doctor comes in and says "Hi Keely I'm doctor Foster (or whatever)" respond with "Nice to see you Peter (or whatever), I'm Miss [insert your last name here]". That lets them know quite quickly that you expect to be treated as an equal. I still have to remind my pulmonologist of almost ten years from time to time. He says "Hi David, I'm Doctor Rosen" and I say "Hi Jon, I'm Mr. Sholes." If you practice this you'll get good at it. The stuffy doctors will be offended (which means they're probably not very good doctors anyway), and the good doctors will laugh.

David Sholes
 

dbsholes

New member
"Does anyone know can I demand all these tests? Or if they say no, is that it?"

YES!! Demand, kick, scream, threaten. Be an absolute pain in the arse if you have to. It's YOUR life afterall - not theirs. You HAVE to be your own advocate and fight for what you need, especially in the age of rationed health care. You will very soon know your own body and your own disease better than anyone else, although they will always presume that they do.

Here's another good trick. Whenever a doctor comes in and says "Hi Keely I'm doctor Foster (or whatever)" respond with "Nice to see you Peter (or whatever), I'm Miss [insert your last name here]". That lets them know quite quickly that you expect to be treated as an equal. I still have to remind my pulmonologist of almost ten years from time to time. He says "Hi David, I'm Doctor Rosen" and I say "Hi Jon, I'm Mr. Sholes." If you practice this you'll get good at it. The stuffy doctors will be offended (which means they're probably not very good doctors anyway), and the good doctors will laugh.

David Sholes
 

Tisha

New member
Dear Keely,

First, I'm sorry to hear that your local hospital treats you so badly! Here in Spain I'm quite lucky (Mallorca and La Paz hospital in Madrid are both very good) and in Sweden they've been superb. You could maybe consider a consultation abroad? In Sweden they do speak English...
Funny to see your treatment is much like mine, only I take Atrovent instead of Ventolin.

I've been out of breath a lot in the past half year. I've found two causes, when it comes to me:
1) Some kind of digestive issue (still not fully resolved) which causes bloating and thus complicates the diaphragm's movement. I'm working on it.
2) Inflammation of the lungs. For this I've tested two things, and both work. One is the PowerTube, an expensive Swiss device (roughly 1700 euros) which is to be held in your hands and in different places of your body. It uses frequencies to allign the molecules. It is very effective for many conditions and has no maintenance cost (except minimal battery use) but if you do it less than 3 hours a day it doesn't show that much. Hence, I've quit using it (shame on me, because the while I used it for three hours a day my FVC went up from 80% to 100%).

The second thing I'm using now is convenient because it doesn't take any time, but more expensive in the long run. It's Aeon patches (see www.lifewave.com/shamay), costing 50 dollars for two weeks when purchased 3 packages at a time. The principle is Chinese meridian points and I was led to using two at a time, in order to cover the whole body. The neat thing is this is not introducing any substance in your body (whether natural or chemical) but activates the meridian points and reduces inflammation. Within 15-30 minutes I am breathing better (or completely well), and the effect lasts 12 hours. So far I'm trying it out (it's my second month) but I'm curious to see what the next pft's say!

Good luck with your "detective search"!! Feel free to get back to me for clarifications.
 

Tisha

New member
Dear Keely,

First, I'm sorry to hear that your local hospital treats you so badly! Here in Spain I'm quite lucky (Mallorca and La Paz hospital in Madrid are both very good) and in Sweden they've been superb. You could maybe consider a consultation abroad? In Sweden they do speak English...
Funny to see your treatment is much like mine, only I take Atrovent instead of Ventolin.

I've been out of breath a lot in the past half year. I've found two causes, when it comes to me:
1) Some kind of digestive issue (still not fully resolved) which causes bloating and thus complicates the diaphragm's movement. I'm working on it.
2) Inflammation of the lungs. For this I've tested two things, and both work. One is the PowerTube, an expensive Swiss device (roughly 1700 euros) which is to be held in your hands and in different places of your body. It uses frequencies to allign the molecules. It is very effective for many conditions and has no maintenance cost (except minimal battery use) but if you do it less than 3 hours a day it doesn't show that much. Hence, I've quit using it (shame on me, because the while I used it for three hours a day my FVC went up from 80% to 100%).

The second thing I'm using now is convenient because it doesn't take any time, but more expensive in the long run. It's Aeon patches (see www.lifewave.com/shamay), costing 50 dollars for two weeks when purchased 3 packages at a time. The principle is Chinese meridian points and I was led to using two at a time, in order to cover the whole body. The neat thing is this is not introducing any substance in your body (whether natural or chemical) but activates the meridian points and reduces inflammation. Within 15-30 minutes I am breathing better (or completely well), and the effect lasts 12 hours. So far I'm trying it out (it's my second month) but I'm curious to see what the next pft's say!

Good luck with your "detective search"!! Feel free to get back to me for clarifications.
 

Tisha

New member
Actually, now reading Jacobus's post I remembered something. I was on Colistin for a lot of years (8?) and suddenly started developing a lot of out-of-breathlessness. Due to a flight in which they lost my luggage and left me without nebs for 5 days (!!!) I came to realize that one was the culprit. It's a rare side effect, but it happens.
I quit Coly in 2007 and went over to Tobi (1 month on, 1 month off) then I got worse and my doctor started giving me Tobi every month. I started to feel out of breath again in 2011 and we've changed to routine: I'm back to Tobi alternating with Coly (at present Coly doesn't give me a reaction) using Atrovent before and it's working.
Thing is, I cannot be without nebs... However it feels like my current out-of-breathlessness is not due to the nebs but the recurring infections, but with the patches I can handle it.
 

Tisha

New member
Actually, now reading Jacobus's post I remembered something. I was on Colistin for a lot of years (8?) and suddenly started developing a lot of out-of-breathlessness. Due to a flight in which they lost my luggage and left me without nebs for 5 days (!!!) I came to realize that one was the culprit. It's a rare side effect, but it happens.
I quit Coly in 2007 and went over to Tobi (1 month on, 1 month off) then I got worse and my doctor started giving me Tobi every month. I started to feel out of breath again in 2011 and we've changed to routine: I'm back to Tobi alternating with Coly (at present Coly doesn't give me a reaction) using Atrovent before and it's working.
Thing is, I cannot be without nebs... However it feels like my current out-of-breathlessness is not due to the nebs but the recurring infections, but with the patches I can handle it.
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbsholes</b></i> Keely, I agree with the above post from jdmd about ABPA. The only time in my life when my PFTs took a severe dive was a result of ABPA - which I hadn't even heard of before then. Aspergillis is the mold that grows on any kind of rotting vegetation. It's the mold you'll see on onions; it's the mold that is rampant in all gardens, especially those with organic mulch or compost. It is in part what makes compost compost. Living in Ireland you are clearly at a disadvantage - with a humid environment and I would imagine lots of vegetation. Anyway, eight years ago my PFTs, which were regularly in the high 80s/ low 90s, suddenly plummeted to the 50s and I was highly short of breath, really for the first time in my life. My pseudomonas A levels had also skyrockted so I was hospitalized and treated with IV antibiotics for the pseudo. Just as I was about to be released after two weeks a young doctor thought to do an IgE blood test and it came back very high. So ABPA was the primary infection, but was not being treated (ABPA requires anti-virals, not antibiotics) while the Pseudo was a secondary infection taking advantage of my lungs already compromised state. Pseudo is like a mugger that only attacks old ladies - once your lungs are compromised by something else then the Pseudo will attack and multiply. Oftentimes something else, like ABPA is the primary infection. Not all doctors catch this. I was released from the hospital with oral anti-virals and the infection cleared up within a couple of weeks. Have you ever tried laying down or napping with your vest? It can be very relaxing. Put the vest on first and lie down, then attach the tubes and turn the unit on (this is so the backside of the vest doesn't fully fill up, which is uncomfortable when you are lying down). If you're at all sleepy you can set the vest for a full hour and you may actually fall asleep. I also listen to my ipod while doing this quiet soothing music can help you fall asleep. I find that I will oftentimes not cough as much while I'm laying down, but will really clear out a lot of mucus once I get up. I also use the vest while pedaling a stationary bicycle. Get creative and see what works for you. My pulmonary team has pointed out that if I cough so much that I can't even use the vest, that indicates just how much I NEED to use it. I know it can be painful, all that coughing, but it is actually very good exercise for your lungs and diaphram. When you have cf coughing is good. It's a nuisance, but it's good. It's also true however that if you have some underlying infection that is causing this you could spend 24 hours a day in the vest and doing nebs and it's not going to solve the root problem. You've got to find out what has caused the rapid drop in your PFTs. And if your current doctor isn't being helpful then you need to interview some new doctors. Trust me, at 45 I have long-since learned that YOU have to be your own advocate for your health. Nobody else is going to do it for you - not even the doctors who we trust so much to look out for our best interests. Keep us informed of your progress. If you want to email me directly you can at david@sholes.org. You can also find me on facebook: David Bardon Sholes Best, David Sholes Bennington, Vermont</end quote>Thank you very much David! Everyone is so helpful here! I'm so suprised that a bunch of people who don't know me seem to care more about my health that than my own doctor!
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbsholes</b></i> Keely, I agree with the above post from jdmd about ABPA. The only time in my life when my PFTs took a severe dive was a result of ABPA - which I hadn't even heard of before then. Aspergillis is the mold that grows on any kind of rotting vegetation. It's the mold you'll see on onions; it's the mold that is rampant in all gardens, especially those with organic mulch or compost. It is in part what makes compost compost. Living in Ireland you are clearly at a disadvantage - with a humid environment and I would imagine lots of vegetation. Anyway, eight years ago my PFTs, which were regularly in the high 80s/ low 90s, suddenly plummeted to the 50s and I was highly short of breath, really for the first time in my life. My pseudomonas A levels had also skyrockted so I was hospitalized and treated with IV antibiotics for the pseudo. Just as I was about to be released after two weeks a young doctor thought to do an IgE blood test and it came back very high. So ABPA was the primary infection, but was not being treated (ABPA requires anti-virals, not antibiotics) while the Pseudo was a secondary infection taking advantage of my lungs already compromised state. Pseudo is like a mugger that only attacks old ladies - once your lungs are compromised by something else then the Pseudo will attack and multiply. Oftentimes something else, like ABPA is the primary infection. Not all doctors catch this. I was released from the hospital with oral anti-virals and the infection cleared up within a couple of weeks. Have you ever tried laying down or napping with your vest? It can be very relaxing. Put the vest on first and lie down, then attach the tubes and turn the unit on (this is so the backside of the vest doesn't fully fill up, which is uncomfortable when you are lying down). If you're at all sleepy you can set the vest for a full hour and you may actually fall asleep. I also listen to my ipod while doing this quiet soothing music can help you fall asleep. I find that I will oftentimes not cough as much while I'm laying down, but will really clear out a lot of mucus once I get up. I also use the vest while pedaling a stationary bicycle. Get creative and see what works for you. My pulmonary team has pointed out that if I cough so much that I can't even use the vest, that indicates just how much I NEED to use it. I know it can be painful, all that coughing, but it is actually very good exercise for your lungs and diaphram. When you have cf coughing is good. It's a nuisance, but it's good. It's also true however that if you have some underlying infection that is causing this you could spend 24 hours a day in the vest and doing nebs and it's not going to solve the root problem. You've got to find out what has caused the rapid drop in your PFTs. And if your current doctor isn't being helpful then you need to interview some new doctors. Trust me, at 45 I have long-since learned that YOU have to be your own advocate for your health. Nobody else is going to do it for you - not even the doctors who we trust so much to look out for our best interests. Keep us informed of your progress. If you want to email me directly you can at david@sholes.org. You can also find me on facebook: David Bardon Sholes Best, David Sholes Bennington, Vermont</end quote>Thank you very much David! Everyone is so helpful here! I'm so suprised that a bunch of people who don't know me seem to care more about my health that than my own doctor!
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jacobus</b></i> Inhaled Tobi and Coly leave me with extreme shortness of breath. The strange thing is that it doesn't kick in until about day 5 or 6 of treatment, then it's like a smack in in the face. If I remove the nebs, I go back to normal.</end quote> Thank you!
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>jacobus</b></i> Inhaled Tobi and Coly leave me with extreme shortness of breath. The strange thing is that it doesn't kick in until about day 5 or 6 of treatment, then it's like a smack in in the face. If I remove the nebs, I go back to normal.</end quote> Thank you!
 

Keelyisbored

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbsholes</b></i> "Does anyone know can I demand all these tests? Or if they say no, is that it?" YES!! Demand, kick, scream, threaten. Be an absolute pain in the arse if you have to. It's YOUR life afterall - not theirs. You HAVE to be your own advocate and fight for what you need, especially in the age of rationed health care. You will very soon know your own body and your own disease better than anyone else, although they will always presume that they do. Here's another good trick. Whenever a doctor comes in and says "Hi Keely I'm doctor Foster (or whatever)" respond with "Nice to see you Peter (or whatever), I'm Miss [insert your last name here]". That lets them know quite quickly that you expect to be treated as an equal. I still have to remind my pulmonologist of almost ten years from time to time. He says "Hi David, I'm Doctor Rosen" and I say "Hi Jon, I'm Mr. Sholes." If you practice this you'll get good at it. The stuffy doctors will be offended (which means they're probably not very good doctors anyway), and the good doctors will laugh. David Sholes</end quote> That's a very good idea! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Thanks again, David!
 

Keelyisbored

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbsholes</b></i> "Does anyone know can I demand all these tests? Or if they say no, is that it?" YES!! Demand, kick, scream, threaten. Be an absolute pain in the arse if you have to. It's YOUR life afterall - not theirs. You HAVE to be your own advocate and fight for what you need, especially in the age of rationed health care. You will very soon know your own body and your own disease better than anyone else, although they will always presume that they do. Here's another good trick. Whenever a doctor comes in and says "Hi Keely I'm doctor Foster (or whatever)" respond with "Nice to see you Peter (or whatever), I'm Miss [insert your last name here]". That lets them know quite quickly that you expect to be treated as an equal. I still have to remind my pulmonologist of almost ten years from time to time. He says "Hi David, I'm Doctor Rosen" and I say "Hi Jon, I'm Mr. Sholes." If you practice this you'll get good at it. The stuffy doctors will be offended (which means they're probably not very good doctors anyway), and the good doctors will laugh. David Sholes</end quote> That's a very good idea! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0"> Thanks again, David!
 
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