can we talk poop?

jbrandonAW

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Ok so in the midst of trying to figure out if my daughter has CF I am left to wonder what is normal poop?

I know what normal is to me. And what its like when I take too many or not enough enzymes.

My daughter seems to suffer more of a constipation issue with BRIGHT green poop. She has a really hard time going potty. She doesn't cry or anything, but she gets extremely red in the face, and really has to work at going potty.

Is that normal? As far as I knew CF has the opposite issue. (which is fine with me I would rather her have a hard time going potty than having CF any day).

She used to have nothing but large mushy stool -but maybe it was just b/c of the diaper?

I dunno, someone just tell me what is normal???
 

jbrandonAW

New member
Ok so in the midst of trying to figure out if my daughter has CF I am left to wonder what is normal poop?

I know what normal is to me. And what its like when I take too many or not enough enzymes.

My daughter seems to suffer more of a constipation issue with BRIGHT green poop. She has a really hard time going potty. She doesn't cry or anything, but she gets extremely red in the face, and really has to work at going potty.

Is that normal? As far as I knew CF has the opposite issue. (which is fine with me I would rather her have a hard time going potty than having CF any day).

She used to have nothing but large mushy stool -but maybe it was just b/c of the diaper?

I dunno, someone just tell me what is normal???
 

jbrandonAW

New member
Ok so in the midst of trying to figure out if my daughter has CF I am left to wonder what is normal poop?
<br />
<br />I know what normal is to me. And what its like when I take too many or not enough enzymes.
<br />
<br />My daughter seems to suffer more of a constipation issue with BRIGHT green poop. She has a really hard time going potty. She doesn't cry or anything, but she gets extremely red in the face, and really has to work at going potty.
<br />
<br />Is that normal? As far as I knew CF has the opposite issue. (which is fine with me I would rather her have a hard time going potty than having CF any day).
<br />
<br />She used to have nothing but large mushy stool -but maybe it was just b/c of the diaper?
<br />
<br />I dunno, someone just tell me what is normal???
 

mag6125

New member
I'm not sure what would be normal but have a friend who was diagnosed after having a bowel obstruction, so having trouble going to the bathroom could still be a symptom.
 

mag6125

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I'm not sure what would be normal but have a friend who was diagnosed after having a bowel obstruction, so having trouble going to the bathroom could still be a symptom.
 

mag6125

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I'm not sure what would be normal but have a friend who was diagnosed after having a bowel obstruction, so having trouble going to the bathroom could still be a symptom.
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
This was always my question when DS was a baby and trying to figure out enzymes. Looking back, he probably needed more enzymes. I'd ask and would get a mysterious "you'll know" from the NICU staff. Hello, new parent here, I DON'T know that's why I'm asking. Once the brightest green poop that resembled a ball of grass came out and a nurse said "wonderful...pregistimil poop". Nothing I'd ever seen before.

DS' stools were pretty much fluffy and yellowish with green specks and sorry if TMI, but smelled like feta cheese. Probably because all he ate back then was infamil lipil formula. Were also fairly frequent. Sometimes I'd go thru 3 diapers in one change and a few times the poo would shoot out of him while I was changing him.

He also would get constipated from time to time. And then would need milk of magnesia to get things moving again. Colors were never normal brown poop colors -- orange, yellowish, greenish... Prior to his bowel obstruction last summer, he had orangish, yellowish stools again with dark green flecks. They were bulky and broke apart easily in the toilet and would leave a residue along the water line of the toilet. Have you tried emptying a diaper in the toilet to see if it floats or are they too loose?
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
This was always my question when DS was a baby and trying to figure out enzymes. Looking back, he probably needed more enzymes. I'd ask and would get a mysterious "you'll know" from the NICU staff. Hello, new parent here, I DON'T know that's why I'm asking. Once the brightest green poop that resembled a ball of grass came out and a nurse said "wonderful...pregistimil poop". Nothing I'd ever seen before.

DS' stools were pretty much fluffy and yellowish with green specks and sorry if TMI, but smelled like feta cheese. Probably because all he ate back then was infamil lipil formula. Were also fairly frequent. Sometimes I'd go thru 3 diapers in one change and a few times the poo would shoot out of him while I was changing him.

He also would get constipated from time to time. And then would need milk of magnesia to get things moving again. Colors were never normal brown poop colors -- orange, yellowish, greenish... Prior to his bowel obstruction last summer, he had orangish, yellowish stools again with dark green flecks. They were bulky and broke apart easily in the toilet and would leave a residue along the water line of the toilet. Have you tried emptying a diaper in the toilet to see if it floats or are they too loose?
 

Ratatosk

Administrator
Staff member
This was always my question when DS was a baby and trying to figure out enzymes. Looking back, he probably needed more enzymes. I'd ask and would get a mysterious "you'll know" from the NICU staff. Hello, new parent here, I DON'T know that's why I'm asking. Once the brightest green poop that resembled a ball of grass came out and a nurse said "wonderful...pregistimil poop". Nothing I'd ever seen before.
<br />
<br />DS' stools were pretty much fluffy and yellowish with green specks and sorry if TMI, but smelled like feta cheese. Probably because all he ate back then was infamil lipil formula. Were also fairly frequent. Sometimes I'd go thru 3 diapers in one change and a few times the poo would shoot out of him while I was changing him.
<br />
<br />He also would get constipated from time to time. And then would need milk of magnesia to get things moving again. Colors were never normal brown poop colors -- orange, yellowish, greenish... Prior to his bowel obstruction last summer, he had orangish, yellowish stools again with dark green flecks. They were bulky and broke apart easily in the toilet and would leave a residue along the water line of the toilet. Have you tried emptying a diaper in the toilet to see if it floats or are they too loose?
 

jpetersen

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Bright green, for me, means too much cheese/dairy without enough enzymes. Try Miralax with the same enzymes and increase enzymes if things get crazy then. Constipation doesn't happen to me, only blockages. Too many/too few enzymes both create looseness for me.
 

jpetersen

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Bright green, for me, means too much cheese/dairy without enough enzymes. Try Miralax with the same enzymes and increase enzymes if things get crazy then. Constipation doesn't happen to me, only blockages. Too many/too few enzymes both create looseness for me.
 

jpetersen

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Bright green, for me, means too much cheese/dairy without enough enzymes. Try Miralax with the same enzymes and increase enzymes if things get crazy then. Constipation doesn't happen to me, only blockages. Too many/too few enzymes both create looseness for me.
 

jendonl

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Both of my non-CFers started having constipation issues when they were around 2 years old. I think because they started drinking less milk. My CFer has never had constipation problems. It could be she is just changing her drinking and eating as she gets older and is not drinking enough liquids.
 

jendonl

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Both of my non-CFers started having constipation issues when they were around 2 years old. I think because they started drinking less milk. My CFer has never had constipation problems. It could be she is just changing her drinking and eating as she gets older and is not drinking enough liquids.
 

jendonl

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Both of my non-CFers started having constipation issues when they were around 2 years old. I think because they started drinking less milk. My CFer has never had constipation problems. It could be she is just changing her drinking and eating as she gets older and is not drinking enough liquids.
 

kitomd21

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My daughter's stools haven't changed since diagnosis at two-weeks-old - they look like fluffy brownish/yellow cookie dough with occasional oil separation, usually two large BMs/day. I always wonder if she'll ever have formed stool! She's two-years-old now...mostly eats pureed food (stubborn in addition to still having a strong gag reflex) and some table snacks here and there. I'm wondering if the consistency of the food she eats is playing into the fact that her stools aren't formed!? Her doctors would like her stools to be formed, but she's on the max enzyme dose. We've tried Creon and Pancrease. She does much better on Pancrease in terms of weight gain, but alas, still no formed stools.
 

kitomd21

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My daughter's stools haven't changed since diagnosis at two-weeks-old - they look like fluffy brownish/yellow cookie dough with occasional oil separation, usually two large BMs/day. I always wonder if she'll ever have formed stool! She's two-years-old now...mostly eats pureed food (stubborn in addition to still having a strong gag reflex) and some table snacks here and there. I'm wondering if the consistency of the food she eats is playing into the fact that her stools aren't formed!? Her doctors would like her stools to be formed, but she's on the max enzyme dose. We've tried Creon and Pancrease. She does much better on Pancrease in terms of weight gain, but alas, still no formed stools.
 

kitomd21

New member
My daughter's stools haven't changed since diagnosis at two-weeks-old - they look like fluffy brownish/yellow cookie dough with occasional oil separation, usually two large BMs/day. I always wonder if she'll ever have formed stool! She's two-years-old now...mostly eats pureed food (stubborn in addition to still having a strong gag reflex) and some table snacks here and there. I'm wondering if the consistency of the food she eats is playing into the fact that her stools aren't formed!? Her doctors would like her stools to be formed, but she's on the max enzyme dose. We've tried Creon and Pancrease. She does much better on Pancrease in terms of weight gain, but alas, still no formed stools.
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
Katie, we had similar issues with DS, his as a baby were very similar to what you describe with Ellie, but every time we upped his enzymes we dealt with constipation issues. When he turned 5 he started slipping in terms of weight, so his doctor switched his enzymes from MT4s to MT10s and that seemed to help.
 

Ratatosk

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Staff member
Katie, we had similar issues with DS, his as a baby were very similar to what you describe with Ellie, but every time we upped his enzymes we dealt with constipation issues. When he turned 5 he started slipping in terms of weight, so his doctor switched his enzymes from MT4s to MT10s and that seemed to help.
 
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