don,t want to be insensative but.....

Emily65Roses

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>I am not trying to start anything but just want others to know that my daughter knows that when her life is over here on this earth that she will spend eternity in heaven with her Lord and Savior, so to be honest CF will not win. The Lord will have another beautiful child and Kaitlyn will have won because she will then get to meet Jesus and walk on the heavenly streets of gold.
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Those are your beliefs, they aren't everyone's, as I'm sure you know. When I say CF will kill her, and it'll win, I mean solely here on earth. That's what I was referring to.
 

Emily65Roses

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>Anonymous</b></i><br>I am not trying to start anything but just want others to know that my daughter knows that when her life is over here on this earth that she will spend eternity in heaven with her Lord and Savior, so to be honest CF will not win. The Lord will have another beautiful child and Kaitlyn will have won because she will then get to meet Jesus and walk on the heavenly streets of gold.
Kaitsmom<img src="i/expressions/rose.gif" border="0"><hr></blockquote>

Those are your beliefs, they aren't everyone's, as I'm sure you know. When I say CF will kill her, and it'll win, I mean solely here on earth. That's what I was referring to.
 

Faust

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When I die i'm going to go to Willy Wonka's castle and we will drink fizzy lifting drinks and lick the wallpaper for all eternity and laugh at midgets who sing in unison.
 

Faust

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When I die i'm going to go to Willy Wonka's castle and we will drink fizzy lifting drinks and lick the wallpaper for all eternity and laugh at midgets who sing in unison.
 

Emily65Roses

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I bet when you die, gobstoppers really are EVERlasting. That'd be amazing. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

Emily65Roses

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I bet when you die, gobstoppers really are EVERlasting. That'd be amazing. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif" border="0">
 

anonymous

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On the other hand -- yes, there are always at least two hands, especially among mutants -- we have to be careful about promoting the short-life idea, as statistically valid as it might be. One potential result is hedonism. I'm not against the "eat, drink, and be merry" part. But I took "tomorrow we die" part a bit too much for granted. When I was diagnosed at 10, the expectancy was 15. How does that alter an trouble-making lad's decision-making process? You can imagine. Of course, I kept getting granted additional five-year intervals along the way, and one day, "halfway through life's journey," I woke up to a past constructed from one set of assumptions and a future based on another set. It was a future I'd never expected to have and had never planned for. In many ways I'm glad my doctors and parents were frank with me. It gave me a sense of gravity and purpose at a young age. It assumed a kind of maturity on my part that I appreciated. But it had a downside. What they told me -- in good faith, of course -- naturally led me to rash decisions I'd never have made knowing what I know today. So now I'm living among the wreckage, the details of which I will spare you.

I guess I speak as a member of one of the first generations to beat the original rap. It was a legitimate rap, but outlooks change as science changes. If I decided to pass on my degenerate genes (and I'm not talking about only the CF ones), I'd be at a loss over what sage advice to pass on to even a healthy child. ("Don't drink, but if you do....") With a CF child, I wouldn't want to create false hopes, of course, but at the same time I wouldn't want to create the false assurance of an early death, as perverse as that wording may seem. I know it would be presumptuous to pronounce anything like the death sentence I was given -- and probably counterproductive. Honestly, I would have to tell my child that I just don't know, that WE don't know. I thank my lucky infertile stars that I'm not in that position now, and am probably thus an imbecile, but it is certainly food for thought. Should I opt for the needle in the scrotum, it might be more than food. To wit:

A sack, a syringe.
My dudes surf Petrie Beach.
At least Dad had fun.

-- Basho

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anonymous

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On the other hand -- yes, there are always at least two hands, especially among mutants -- we have to be careful about promoting the short-life idea, as statistically valid as it might be. One potential result is hedonism. I'm not against the "eat, drink, and be merry" part. But I took "tomorrow we die" part a bit too much for granted. When I was diagnosed at 10, the expectancy was 15. How does that alter an trouble-making lad's decision-making process? You can imagine. Of course, I kept getting granted additional five-year intervals along the way, and one day, "halfway through life's journey," I woke up to a past constructed from one set of assumptions and a future based on another set. It was a future I'd never expected to have and had never planned for. In many ways I'm glad my doctors and parents were frank with me. It gave me a sense of gravity and purpose at a young age. It assumed a kind of maturity on my part that I appreciated. But it had a downside. What they told me -- in good faith, of course -- naturally led me to rash decisions I'd never have made knowing what I know today. So now I'm living among the wreckage, the details of which I will spare you.

I guess I speak as a member of one of the first generations to beat the original rap. It was a legitimate rap, but outlooks change as science changes. If I decided to pass on my degenerate genes (and I'm not talking about only the CF ones), I'd be at a loss over what sage advice to pass on to even a healthy child. ("Don't drink, but if you do....") With a CF child, I wouldn't want to create false hopes, of course, but at the same time I wouldn't want to create the false assurance of an early death, as perverse as that wording may seem. I know it would be presumptuous to pronounce anything like the death sentence I was given -- and probably counterproductive. Honestly, I would have to tell my child that I just don't know, that WE don't know. I thank my lucky infertile stars that I'm not in that position now, and am probably thus an imbecile, but it is certainly food for thought. Should I opt for the needle in the scrotum, it might be more than food. To wit:

A sack, a syringe.
My dudes surf Petrie Beach.
At least Dad had fun.

-- Basho

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skh

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As a parent I know how hard this is. I know when my daughter was diagnosed she knew what CF was and that her life may not be as long as her sisters. The day of her first CF clinic appointment she asked me "so, how long am I going to live mom?" She was angry and she had every right to be. We talked and I told her I couldn't tell her how long she would live just like I can't tell her how long her dad or myself will be here. No one knows when their time is going to be up. I never thought I would have that discussion with my 11 yr. old daughter. I also told her it was ok to be angry but then she had to be fair and count her blessings also. Life it tough!

I don't think it hurts to "prep" your son. You know him and you know how much he can handle at one time. Maybe you need to give it to him in small doses. You are the only one who can judge that.

I don't think it's fair to take anyone's hope or dreams away. It's ok to say this is reality but there is always hope.

Sue
 
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skh

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As a parent I know how hard this is. I know when my daughter was diagnosed she knew what CF was and that her life may not be as long as her sisters. The day of her first CF clinic appointment she asked me "so, how long am I going to live mom?" She was angry and she had every right to be. We talked and I told her I couldn't tell her how long she would live just like I can't tell her how long her dad or myself will be here. No one knows when their time is going to be up. I never thought I would have that discussion with my 11 yr. old daughter. I also told her it was ok to be angry but then she had to be fair and count her blessings also. Life it tough!

I don't think it hurts to "prep" your son. You know him and you know how much he can handle at one time. Maybe you need to give it to him in small doses. You are the only one who can judge that.

I don't think it's fair to take anyone's hope or dreams away. It's ok to say this is reality but there is always hope.

Sue
 

Emily65Roses

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr>I don't think it's fair to take anyone's hope or dreams away.<hr></blockquote>

I hope this isn't directed at me. You didn't say names, so I'm not assuming, but I know how a lot of people here view me when it comes to this type of stuff. And I never once said anything about taking away someone's hope. Just to clarify.
 

Emily65Roses

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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr>I don't think it's fair to take anyone's hope or dreams away.<hr></blockquote>

I hope this isn't directed at me. You didn't say names, so I'm not assuming, but I know how a lot of people here view me when it comes to this type of stuff. And I never once said anything about taking away someone's hope. Just to clarify.
 

Allie

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I think the anger is perfectly normal. There were times in Ry's adult life when he would get angry about what was going on. It's really not fair. It's normal. And I think it's good that your daughter knows the truth and can plan things, like the type of career, and after marriage, how soon she wants to have kids, if she wants kids. It gives a better heads up.
 

Allie

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I think the anger is perfectly normal. There were times in Ry's adult life when he would get angry about what was going on. It's really not fair. It's normal. And I think it's good that your daughter knows the truth and can plan things, like the type of career, and after marriage, how soon she wants to have kids, if she wants kids. It gives a better heads up.
 
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skh

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No Emily, it wasn't. The one thing I appreciate about this site is how open and honest everyone is. I was just adding my 2 cents worth.

Sue
 
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skh

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No Emily, it wasn't. The one thing I appreciate about this site is how open and honest everyone is. I was just adding my 2 cents worth.

Sue
 

thelizardqueen

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I mean don't tell your son that he will die young, but rather let him know that some CFer's do not make it into adulthood or old age. He's not necessarily going to die young, but he should know that there is the possibility. Like some have said - nothing in this life is a guarantee. And that's from both sides of the spectrum.
 

thelizardqueen

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I mean don't tell your son that he will die young, but rather let him know that some CFer's do not make it into adulthood or old age. He's not necessarily going to die young, but he should know that there is the possibility. Like some have said - nothing in this life is a guarantee. And that's from both sides of the spectrum.
 

debs2girls

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I have wanted to post this same question myself, so ty o/p....my daughter is 5, she knows she has c/f but I am not sure if she understands what it is....I dont want to just out right say hey Cheyenne, did you know you are going to die early and especially if you dont do you meds, treatments...etc...How do you get it across without causing any damage to their little minds?
I have to fight her tooth and nail to take her meds...mainly when she is on an antibiotic, and to do her treatments....dont get me wrong, I want her to live to be a ripe old age, but man...I hate having to fight with her every day...sorry just having a bad night, I guess....
 

debs2girls

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I have wanted to post this same question myself, so ty o/p....my daughter is 5, she knows she has c/f but I am not sure if she understands what it is....I dont want to just out right say hey Cheyenne, did you know you are going to die early and especially if you dont do you meds, treatments...etc...How do you get it across without causing any damage to their little minds?
I have to fight her tooth and nail to take her meds...mainly when she is on an antibiotic, and to do her treatments....dont get me wrong, I want her to live to be a ripe old age, but man...I hate having to fight with her every day...sorry just having a bad night, I guess....
 
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