Getting very down about transplant

NYCLawGirl

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Deanna, I just wanted to say that that was a beautiful post. I feel the exact same way -- there are lungs for me out there, and they will come on the perfect day at the right time. It's how I got through 2 dry runs as well, just thinking that those must not have been "my" lungs.

Busbie, you're totally not alone in feeling discouraged. The waiting is hard -- most people say that waiting for transplant is the hardest part of the whole process (cue Tom Petty song <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">). Honestly, there are days when I wonder if lungs are coming at all, ever. And then there are days when I'm happy I've made it this far on my own. But I want lungs to come while I'm healthy enough to receive them, of course, and it can be SO frustrating. So I definitely feel you on this one.

If you live in an area where there are multiple centers (not necessarily super close, but within the limit -- normally 4-6 hours away), multiple listing can be a great idea. People who are "average" in terms of blood type and height often wait a while b/c there are a lot of other people to "compete" with on the list (sidenote: I hate thinking of it like that, but you get what I mean). The scoring system is great, but not perfect when it comes to disease like CF b/c it doesn't take into account things like exacerbation frequency or resistant bacteria, which can be major factors in a CFer's health. So sometimes it really helps to play the system a bit in terms of getting on two lists -- preferably in two different states/regions so that you're able to take lungs wherever they become available.

I would also stay in as close of contact with your tx center as possible. I know these things aren't really political and the team doesn't have much (if any) say in who gets organs, but it never hurts to stay on their radar. They can also help suggest ways for you to stay as healthy as possible so that you will be ready for surgery when you get the call. And yes, sometimes they have ideas the CF teams don't really think about -- remember it's THEIR JOB to get as many people through this surgery HEALTHY as possible. CF teams are more entrenched in CF protocol. I love that my tx team and CF teams work together and that I can discuss my appointments with both of my docs to bounce ideas around. I also like knowing that my tx center has me in mind and knows how I'm doing at any given time. It helps them make educated decisions and will also help them take care of my health post-surgery, since they already know some of my patterns.

Good luck -- definitely thinking of you! Where are you listed, by the way?
 

NYCLawGirl

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Deanna, I just wanted to say that that was a beautiful post. I feel the exact same way -- there are lungs for me out there, and they will come on the perfect day at the right time. It's how I got through 2 dry runs as well, just thinking that those must not have been "my" lungs.

Busbie, you're totally not alone in feeling discouraged. The waiting is hard -- most people say that waiting for transplant is the hardest part of the whole process (cue Tom Petty song <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">). Honestly, there are days when I wonder if lungs are coming at all, ever. And then there are days when I'm happy I've made it this far on my own. But I want lungs to come while I'm healthy enough to receive them, of course, and it can be SO frustrating. So I definitely feel you on this one.

If you live in an area where there are multiple centers (not necessarily super close, but within the limit -- normally 4-6 hours away), multiple listing can be a great idea. People who are "average" in terms of blood type and height often wait a while b/c there are a lot of other people to "compete" with on the list (sidenote: I hate thinking of it like that, but you get what I mean). The scoring system is great, but not perfect when it comes to disease like CF b/c it doesn't take into account things like exacerbation frequency or resistant bacteria, which can be major factors in a CFer's health. So sometimes it really helps to play the system a bit in terms of getting on two lists -- preferably in two different states/regions so that you're able to take lungs wherever they become available.

I would also stay in as close of contact with your tx center as possible. I know these things aren't really political and the team doesn't have much (if any) say in who gets organs, but it never hurts to stay on their radar. They can also help suggest ways for you to stay as healthy as possible so that you will be ready for surgery when you get the call. And yes, sometimes they have ideas the CF teams don't really think about -- remember it's THEIR JOB to get as many people through this surgery HEALTHY as possible. CF teams are more entrenched in CF protocol. I love that my tx team and CF teams work together and that I can discuss my appointments with both of my docs to bounce ideas around. I also like knowing that my tx center has me in mind and knows how I'm doing at any given time. It helps them make educated decisions and will also help them take care of my health post-surgery, since they already know some of my patterns.

Good luck -- definitely thinking of you! Where are you listed, by the way?
 

NYCLawGirl

New member
Deanna, I just wanted to say that that was a beautiful post. I feel the exact same way -- there are lungs for me out there, and they will come on the perfect day at the right time. It's how I got through 2 dry runs as well, just thinking that those must not have been "my" lungs.

Busbie, you're totally not alone in feeling discouraged. The waiting is hard -- most people say that waiting for transplant is the hardest part of the whole process (cue Tom Petty song <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">). Honestly, there are days when I wonder if lungs are coming at all, ever. And then there are days when I'm happy I've made it this far on my own. But I want lungs to come while I'm healthy enough to receive them, of course, and it can be SO frustrating. So I definitely feel you on this one.

If you live in an area where there are multiple centers (not necessarily super close, but within the limit -- normally 4-6 hours away), multiple listing can be a great idea. People who are "average" in terms of blood type and height often wait a while b/c there are a lot of other people to "compete" with on the list (sidenote: I hate thinking of it like that, but you get what I mean). The scoring system is great, but not perfect when it comes to disease like CF b/c it doesn't take into account things like exacerbation frequency or resistant bacteria, which can be major factors in a CFer's health. So sometimes it really helps to play the system a bit in terms of getting on two lists -- preferably in two different states/regions so that you're able to take lungs wherever they become available.

I would also stay in as close of contact with your tx center as possible. I know these things aren't really political and the team doesn't have much (if any) say in who gets organs, but it never hurts to stay on their radar. They can also help suggest ways for you to stay as healthy as possible so that you will be ready for surgery when you get the call. And yes, sometimes they have ideas the CF teams don't really think about -- remember it's THEIR JOB to get as many people through this surgery HEALTHY as possible. CF teams are more entrenched in CF protocol. I love that my tx team and CF teams work together and that I can discuss my appointments with both of my docs to bounce ideas around. I also like knowing that my tx center has me in mind and knows how I'm doing at any given time. It helps them make educated decisions and will also help them take care of my health post-surgery, since they already know some of my patterns.

Good luck -- definitely thinking of you! Where are you listed, by the way?
 

NYCLawGirl

New member
Deanna, I just wanted to say that that was a beautiful post. I feel the exact same way -- there are lungs for me out there, and they will come on the perfect day at the right time. It's how I got through 2 dry runs as well, just thinking that those must not have been "my" lungs.

Busbie, you're totally not alone in feeling discouraged. The waiting is hard -- most people say that waiting for transplant is the hardest part of the whole process (cue Tom Petty song <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">). Honestly, there are days when I wonder if lungs are coming at all, ever. And then there are days when I'm happy I've made it this far on my own. But I want lungs to come while I'm healthy enough to receive them, of course, and it can be SO frustrating. So I definitely feel you on this one.

If you live in an area where there are multiple centers (not necessarily super close, but within the limit -- normally 4-6 hours away), multiple listing can be a great idea. People who are "average" in terms of blood type and height often wait a while b/c there are a lot of other people to "compete" with on the list (sidenote: I hate thinking of it like that, but you get what I mean). The scoring system is great, but not perfect when it comes to disease like CF b/c it doesn't take into account things like exacerbation frequency or resistant bacteria, which can be major factors in a CFer's health. So sometimes it really helps to play the system a bit in terms of getting on two lists -- preferably in two different states/regions so that you're able to take lungs wherever they become available.

I would also stay in as close of contact with your tx center as possible. I know these things aren't really political and the team doesn't have much (if any) say in who gets organs, but it never hurts to stay on their radar. They can also help suggest ways for you to stay as healthy as possible so that you will be ready for surgery when you get the call. And yes, sometimes they have ideas the CF teams don't really think about -- remember it's THEIR JOB to get as many people through this surgery HEALTHY as possible. CF teams are more entrenched in CF protocol. I love that my tx team and CF teams work together and that I can discuss my appointments with both of my docs to bounce ideas around. I also like knowing that my tx center has me in mind and knows how I'm doing at any given time. It helps them make educated decisions and will also help them take care of my health post-surgery, since they already know some of my patterns.

Good luck -- definitely thinking of you! Where are you listed, by the way?
 

NYCLawGirl

New member
Deanna, I just wanted to say that that was a beautiful post. I feel the exact same way -- there are lungs for me out there, and they will come on the perfect day at the right time. It's how I got through 2 dry runs as well, just thinking that those must not have been "my" lungs.
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<br />Busbie, you're totally not alone in feeling discouraged. The waiting is hard -- most people say that waiting for transplant is the hardest part of the whole process (cue Tom Petty song <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">). Honestly, there are days when I wonder if lungs are coming at all, ever. And then there are days when I'm happy I've made it this far on my own. But I want lungs to come while I'm healthy enough to receive them, of course, and it can be SO frustrating. So I definitely feel you on this one.
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<br />If you live in an area where there are multiple centers (not necessarily super close, but within the limit -- normally 4-6 hours away), multiple listing can be a great idea. People who are "average" in terms of blood type and height often wait a while b/c there are a lot of other people to "compete" with on the list (sidenote: I hate thinking of it like that, but you get what I mean). The scoring system is great, but not perfect when it comes to disease like CF b/c it doesn't take into account things like exacerbation frequency or resistant bacteria, which can be major factors in a CFer's health. So sometimes it really helps to play the system a bit in terms of getting on two lists -- preferably in two different states/regions so that you're able to take lungs wherever they become available.
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<br />I would also stay in as close of contact with your tx center as possible. I know these things aren't really political and the team doesn't have much (if any) say in who gets organs, but it never hurts to stay on their radar. They can also help suggest ways for you to stay as healthy as possible so that you will be ready for surgery when you get the call. And yes, sometimes they have ideas the CF teams don't really think about -- remember it's THEIR JOB to get as many people through this surgery HEALTHY as possible. CF teams are more entrenched in CF protocol. I love that my tx team and CF teams work together and that I can discuss my appointments with both of my docs to bounce ideas around. I also like knowing that my tx center has me in mind and knows how I'm doing at any given time. It helps them make educated decisions and will also help them take care of my health post-surgery, since they already know some of my patterns.
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<br />Good luck -- definitely thinking of you! Where are you listed, by the way?
 

Busbie

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Thank you for all your lovely comments I feel a bit better and I am sorry for being such moan, I know there are people on the list longer than me and they don't complain. I live in Ireland and there isn't the option of going to another centre because there is a rule over here that you cannot be on two lists at the same time because it gives you an unfair advantage on those who are on just one list which in the circumstances I agree with but I know your health care is different over there and that is just the way you do things. I have been in hospital for six weeks now and have just cought the vomiting bug of another patient so I am just at a low ebb at the moment. I don't know what score I am and to tell you the truth I don't know what that means........I haven't spoke to my transplant coordinators about antibodies but I will follow your advice and check it out with them. Once again thank you for all your help and I hope all your dreams and hopes come through, good luck everybody.
 

Busbie

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Thank you for all your lovely comments I feel a bit better and I am sorry for being such moan, I know there are people on the list longer than me and they don't complain. I live in Ireland and there isn't the option of going to another centre because there is a rule over here that you cannot be on two lists at the same time because it gives you an unfair advantage on those who are on just one list which in the circumstances I agree with but I know your health care is different over there and that is just the way you do things. I have been in hospital for six weeks now and have just cought the vomiting bug of another patient so I am just at a low ebb at the moment. I don't know what score I am and to tell you the truth I don't know what that means........I haven't spoke to my transplant coordinators about antibodies but I will follow your advice and check it out with them. Once again thank you for all your help and I hope all your dreams and hopes come through, good luck everybody.
 

Busbie

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Thank you for all your lovely comments I feel a bit better and I am sorry for being such moan, I know there are people on the list longer than me and they don't complain. I live in Ireland and there isn't the option of going to another centre because there is a rule over here that you cannot be on two lists at the same time because it gives you an unfair advantage on those who are on just one list which in the circumstances I agree with but I know your health care is different over there and that is just the way you do things. I have been in hospital for six weeks now and have just cought the vomiting bug of another patient so I am just at a low ebb at the moment. I don't know what score I am and to tell you the truth I don't know what that means........I haven't spoke to my transplant coordinators about antibodies but I will follow your advice and check it out with them. Once again thank you for all your help and I hope all your dreams and hopes come through, good luck everybody.
 

Busbie

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Thank you for all your lovely comments I feel a bit better and I am sorry for being such moan, I know there are people on the list longer than me and they don't complain. I live in Ireland and there isn't the option of going to another centre because there is a rule over here that you cannot be on two lists at the same time because it gives you an unfair advantage on those who are on just one list which in the circumstances I agree with but I know your health care is different over there and that is just the way you do things. I have been in hospital for six weeks now and have just cought the vomiting bug of another patient so I am just at a low ebb at the moment. I don't know what score I am and to tell you the truth I don't know what that means........I haven't spoke to my transplant coordinators about antibodies but I will follow your advice and check it out with them. Once again thank you for all your help and I hope all your dreams and hopes come through, good luck everybody.
 

Busbie

New member
Thank you for all your lovely comments I feel a bit better and I am sorry for being such moan, I know there are people on the list longer than me and they don't complain. I live in Ireland and there isn't the option of going to another centre because there is a rule over here that you cannot be on two lists at the same time because it gives you an unfair advantage on those who are on just one list which in the circumstances I agree with but I know your health care is different over there and that is just the way you do things. I have been in hospital for six weeks now and have just cought the vomiting bug of another patient so I am just at a low ebb at the moment. I don't know what score I am and to tell you the truth I don't know what that means........I haven't spoke to my transplant coordinators about antibodies but I will follow your advice and check it out with them. Once again thank you for all your help and I hope all your dreams and hopes come through, good luck everybody.
 

NYCLawGirl

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OH! Sorry, I didn't realize you were in Ireland. I think a lot of our advice was based on the US system, which has "regions" for organ donation and uses something called a Lung Allocation Score (LAS) to determine who is "sickest" (aka, who needs the organs most desperately) within a certain blood type. From what I understand, Europe is quite different in that there are national lists and an international list that allows patients to take lungs from other countries according to their need. There is a woman on these boards named Marjolain who is from the Netherlands and had a double-lung transplant a few years ago. I will ask her to come join this discussion b/c she might have some helpful advice specific to the European system.

In the meantime, so glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. Yuck and more yuck on catching that vomiting bug though...what a downer. Hoping you continue to feel better and that your talk with the transplant coordinators yields some answers!!
 

NYCLawGirl

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OH! Sorry, I didn't realize you were in Ireland. I think a lot of our advice was based on the US system, which has "regions" for organ donation and uses something called a Lung Allocation Score (LAS) to determine who is "sickest" (aka, who needs the organs most desperately) within a certain blood type. From what I understand, Europe is quite different in that there are national lists and an international list that allows patients to take lungs from other countries according to their need. There is a woman on these boards named Marjolain who is from the Netherlands and had a double-lung transplant a few years ago. I will ask her to come join this discussion b/c she might have some helpful advice specific to the European system.

In the meantime, so glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. Yuck and more yuck on catching that vomiting bug though...what a downer. Hoping you continue to feel better and that your talk with the transplant coordinators yields some answers!!
 

NYCLawGirl

New member
OH! Sorry, I didn't realize you were in Ireland. I think a lot of our advice was based on the US system, which has "regions" for organ donation and uses something called a Lung Allocation Score (LAS) to determine who is "sickest" (aka, who needs the organs most desperately) within a certain blood type. From what I understand, Europe is quite different in that there are national lists and an international list that allows patients to take lungs from other countries according to their need. There is a woman on these boards named Marjolain who is from the Netherlands and had a double-lung transplant a few years ago. I will ask her to come join this discussion b/c she might have some helpful advice specific to the European system.

In the meantime, so glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. Yuck and more yuck on catching that vomiting bug though...what a downer. Hoping you continue to feel better and that your talk with the transplant coordinators yields some answers!!
 

NYCLawGirl

New member
OH! Sorry, I didn't realize you were in Ireland. I think a lot of our advice was based on the US system, which has "regions" for organ donation and uses something called a Lung Allocation Score (LAS) to determine who is "sickest" (aka, who needs the organs most desperately) within a certain blood type. From what I understand, Europe is quite different in that there are national lists and an international list that allows patients to take lungs from other countries according to their need. There is a woman on these boards named Marjolain who is from the Netherlands and had a double-lung transplant a few years ago. I will ask her to come join this discussion b/c she might have some helpful advice specific to the European system.

In the meantime, so glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. Yuck and more yuck on catching that vomiting bug though...what a downer. Hoping you continue to feel better and that your talk with the transplant coordinators yields some answers!!
 

NYCLawGirl

New member
OH! Sorry, I didn't realize you were in Ireland. I think a lot of our advice was based on the US system, which has "regions" for organ donation and uses something called a Lung Allocation Score (LAS) to determine who is "sickest" (aka, who needs the organs most desperately) within a certain blood type. From what I understand, Europe is quite different in that there are national lists and an international list that allows patients to take lungs from other countries according to their need. There is a woman on these boards named Marjolain who is from the Netherlands and had a double-lung transplant a few years ago. I will ask her to come join this discussion b/c she might have some helpful advice specific to the European system.
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<br />In the meantime, so glad to hear you're feeling a bit better. Yuck and more yuck on catching that vomiting bug though...what a downer. Hoping you continue to feel better and that your talk with the transplant coordinators yields some answers!!
 
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