have you tried Glutathione

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



According to Stanford, Glutatione is destroyed in the stomach.... therefore it's more efficacious to take NAC.</end quote></div>

Utah Valley CF Institute says otherwise, there is no published data either way, although there is a doctor with the american health institute that did studies on it that says it is absorbed in the gut not destroyed that was never published.

Personally I inhale GSH 200mg with 3 ml of .9% saline bid and take 5 ml of mucomyst , essencially 1000 mg of NAC, bid.

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



According to Stanford, Glutatione is destroyed in the stomach.... therefore it's more efficacious to take NAC.</end quote></div>

Utah Valley CF Institute says otherwise, there is no published data either way, although there is a doctor with the american health institute that did studies on it that says it is absorbed in the gut not destroyed that was never published.

Personally I inhale GSH 200mg with 3 ml of .9% saline bid and take 5 ml of mucomyst , essencially 1000 mg of NAC, bid.

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



According to Stanford, Glutatione is destroyed in the stomach.... therefore it's more efficacious to take NAC.</end quote></div>

Utah Valley CF Institute says otherwise, there is no published data either way, although there is a doctor with the american health institute that did studies on it that says it is absorbed in the gut not destroyed that was never published.

Personally I inhale GSH 200mg with 3 ml of .9% saline bid and take 5 ml of mucomyst , essencially 1000 mg of NAC, bid.

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



According to Stanford, Glutatione is destroyed in the stomach.... therefore it's more efficacious to take NAC.</end quote>

Utah Valley CF Institute says otherwise, there is no published data either way, although there is a doctor with the american health institute that did studies on it that says it is absorbed in the gut not destroyed that was never published.

Personally I inhale GSH 200mg with 3 ml of .9% saline bid and take 5 ml of mucomyst , essencially 1000 mg of NAC, bid.

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



According to Stanford, Glutatione is destroyed in the stomach.... therefore it's more efficacious to take NAC.</end quote>

Utah Valley CF Institute says otherwise, there is no published data either way, although there is a doctor with the american health institute that did studies on it that says it is absorbed in the gut not destroyed that was never published.

Personally I inhale GSH 200mg with 3 ml of .9% saline bid and take 5 ml of mucomyst , essencially 1000 mg of NAC, bid.

 

[AnD]

This is the article I used when I was starting GSH, but I do 900 mg NAC (that is what is in a fizzyNAC tablet) and not the inhaled gsh:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://members.tripod.com/uvicf/gsh/gshaugment.htm">article</a>

 

[AnD]

This is the article I used when I was starting GSH, but I do 900 mg NAC (that is what is in a fizzyNAC tablet) and not the inhaled gsh:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://members.tripod.com/uvicf/gsh/gshaugment.htm">article</a>

 

[AnD]

This is the article I used when I was starting GSH, but I do 900 mg NAC (that is what is in a fizzyNAC tablet) and not the inhaled gsh:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://members.tripod.com/uvicf/gsh/gshaugment.htm">article</a>

 

[AnD]

This is the article I used when I was starting GSH, but I do 900 mg NAC (that is what is in a fizzyNAC tablet) and not the inhaled gsh:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://members.tripod.com/uvicf/gsh/gshaugment.htm">article</a>

 

[AnD]

This is the article I used when I was starting GSH, but I do 900 mg NAC (that is what is in a fizzyNAC tablet) and not the inhaled gsh:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://members.tripod.com/uvicf/gsh/gshaugment.htm">article</a>

 

[Diane]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.

</end quote></div>
NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.
The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.
I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.

 

[Diane]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.

</end quote></div>
NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.
The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.
I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.

 

[Diane]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.

</end quote></div>
NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.
The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.
I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.

 

[Diane]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.

</end quote>
NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.
The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.
I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.

 

[Diane]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>

I use NAC which turns into glutatione.

</end quote>
NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.
The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.
I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>



I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



</end quote></div>

NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.

The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.

I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.</end quote></div>

Not true Diane, there have been no level of NAC doses determined to be toxic.

"Toxicity has not been determined, but may increase the amount of zinc excreted in the urine and for this reason it may be a good idea to use zinc and copper supplements if using N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) for extended periods."

[L=o.htm">[L=http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
[/L]
<br [/L]

Unless you other information i haven't seen. Although it's the over the counter NAC that needs to steered clear when it is exposed to O2 it can become harmful, That is why Standord s using Fizzy NAC rather than pill form. Another way to get unoxidized NAC is Mucomyst, which doesn't taste all that bad once you get used to it.

here is a study that shows NAC and GSH both deplete the body of NO in mice, THAT should be considered, NO kills bacteria, and CFers a notoriously low on NO. This can get picked up however with an arginine supplement. The problem with arginine though is that it raised blood sugar levels. It's always something isn't it.

[L=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/L]

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>



I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



</end quote></div>

NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.

The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.

I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.</end quote></div>

Not true Diane, there have been no level of NAC doses determined to be toxic.

"Toxicity has not been determined, but may increase the amount of zinc excreted in the urine and for this reason it may be a good idea to use zinc and copper supplements if using N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) for extended periods."

[L=o.htm">[L=http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
[/L]
<br [/L]

Unless you other information i haven't seen. Although it's the over the counter NAC that needs to steered clear when it is exposed to O2 it can become harmful, That is why Standord s using Fizzy NAC rather than pill form. Another way to get unoxidized NAC is Mucomyst, which doesn't taste all that bad once you get used to it.

here is a study that shows NAC and GSH both deplete the body of NO in mice, THAT should be considered, NO kills bacteria, and CFers a notoriously low on NO. This can get picked up however with an arginine supplement. The problem with arginine though is that it raised blood sugar levels. It's always something isn't it.

[L=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/L]

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>



I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



</end quote></div>

NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.

The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.

I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.</end quote></div>

Not true Diane, there have been no level of NAC doses determined to be toxic.

"Toxicity has not been determined, but may increase the amount of zinc excreted in the urine and for this reason it may be a good idea to use zinc and copper supplements if using N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) for extended periods."

[L=o.htm">[L=http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
[/L]
<br [/L]

Unless you other information i haven't seen. Although it's the over the counter NAC that needs to steered clear when it is exposed to O2 it can become harmful, That is why Standord s using Fizzy NAC rather than pill form. Another way to get unoxidized NAC is Mucomyst, which doesn't taste all that bad once you get used to it.

here is a study that shows NAC and GSH both deplete the body of NO in mice, THAT should be considered, NO kills bacteria, and CFers a notoriously low on NO. This can get picked up however with an arginine supplement. The problem with arginine though is that it raised blood sugar levels. It's always something isn't it.

[L=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/L]

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>



I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



</end quote>

NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.

The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.

I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.</end quote>

Not true Diane, there have been no level of NAC doses determined to be toxic.

"Toxicity has not been determined, but may increase the amount of zinc excreted in the urine and for this reason it may be a good idea to use zinc and copper supplements if using N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) for extended periods."

[L=o.htm">[L=http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
[/L]
<br [/L]

Unless you other information i haven't seen. Although it's the over the counter NAC that needs to steered clear when it is exposed to O2 it can become harmful, That is why Standord s using Fizzy NAC rather than pill form. Another way to get unoxidized NAC is Mucomyst, which doesn't taste all that bad once you get used to it.

here is a study that shows NAC and GSH both deplete the body of NO in mice, THAT should be considered, NO kills bacteria, and CFers a notoriously low on NO. This can get picked up however with an arginine supplement. The problem with arginine though is that it raised blood sugar levels. It's always something isn't it.

[L=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/L]

 

[Chaggie]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Diane</b></i>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>NoExcuses</b></i>



I use NAC which turns into glutatione.



</end quote>

NAC doesnt exactly "turn into" glutathione .... NAC helps the body to produce GSH, but you have to take quite a bit to get enough of it to do that.

The problem with NAC is that NAC in large doses can be toxic ........ Glutathione isnt. You may want to do a lot of research on both before making any decisions. GSH is not toxic, and with us having cf, our bodies can be depleted of it.

I do believe NAC would be helpful if taken along with GSH .... but alone, it just isnt enough.</end quote>

Not true Diane, there have been no level of NAC doses determined to be toxic.

"Toxicity has not been determined, but may increase the amount of zinc excreted in the urine and for this reason it may be a good idea to use zinc and copper supplements if using N-acetyl cysteine (NAC) for extended periods."

[L=o.htm">[L=http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-info.htm]http://www.anyvitamins.com/nac-inf
[/L]
<br [/L]

Unless you other information i haven't seen. Although it's the over the counter NAC that needs to steered clear when it is exposed to O2 it can become harmful, That is why Standord s using Fizzy NAC rather than pill form. Another way to get unoxidized NAC is Mucomyst, which doesn't taste all that bad once you get used to it.

here is a study that shows NAC and GSH both deplete the body of NO in mice, THAT should be considered, NO kills bacteria, and CFers a notoriously low on NO. This can get picked up however with an arginine supplement. The problem with arginine though is that it raised blood sugar levels. It's always something isn't it.

[L=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum]http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17786245?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum[/L]