This does not seem fair at all. So what are your options if they deny this procedure? Can you go ahead and have your eggs retrieved, fertilized and then frozen to be implanted at a later date (after all of this is straightened out)? I know it would be disappointing not to have them implanted now because it seems you have waited soooo long for this already. I don't know much about the procedures you are having done or what your options are, I just thought this may be a possiblity that gets you one step closer and not have this medication you are on go to waste. Hopefully, the procedure will be approved and you won't have to think of other options!
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HERE WE GO---UPDATED AND SAD :(
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This does not seem fair at all. So what are your options if they deny this procedure? Can you go ahead and have your eggs retrieved, fertilized and then frozen to be implanted at a later date (after all of this is straightened out)? I know it would be disappointing not to have them implanted now because it seems you have waited soooo long for this already. I don't know much about the procedures you are having done or what your options are, I just thought this may be a possiblity that gets you one step closer and not have this medication you are on go to waste. Hopefully, the procedure will be approved and you won't have to think of other options!
Emily65Roses
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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i><br>Apparently the military "owns" me and that includes what I do to my body<hr></blockquote>
Oh okay, so the military is slavery now? Interesting. *goes on a rampage*
Oh okay, so the military is slavery now? Interesting. *goes on a rampage*
Emily65Roses
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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr><i>Originally posted by: <b>julie</b></i><br>Apparently the military "owns" me and that includes what I do to my body<hr></blockquote>
Oh okay, so the military is slavery now? Interesting. *goes on a rampage*
Oh okay, so the military is slavery now? Interesting. *goes on a rampage*
JennifersHope
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Julie... I am so unbelievably sorry to you and Mark that you are going through such heartache.. To me it is unacceptable... and inhuman... I so wish I had something I could do to help you.. I just don't know what.. DO you think getting a doctors note stating it is not safe not to have the egg retrival will help? I don't know anything nurse wise about this procedure...... but if they keep messing with you, your mental health is going to really suffer and you are not going to be able to serve on a ship...... so they better knock it off...
I am so sorry.... I am so frustrated for you... I do know in the end you will have a baby I just know it.. I just hate all this up and downs to get there.... I am not sure if this helps..but for me since I am also in a battle for my hearts desire.. to me the more I battle the greater the sweetness it is going to be in the end...I cry with overwhelmed emotion just thinking about my graduation... I know it must be really hard for you being on all those hormones and trying to deal with this..... believe it or not I really do understand.. steroids are all a type of hormone...
I can just picture you holding your little baby it is going to happen... just got to hang on and be strong...Talk a lot about it to ppl who can let you vent ... scream..yell... do what ever but don't quit...
IN my prayers,
Jennifer
I am so sorry.... I am so frustrated for you... I do know in the end you will have a baby I just know it.. I just hate all this up and downs to get there.... I am not sure if this helps..but for me since I am also in a battle for my hearts desire.. to me the more I battle the greater the sweetness it is going to be in the end...I cry with overwhelmed emotion just thinking about my graduation... I know it must be really hard for you being on all those hormones and trying to deal with this..... believe it or not I really do understand.. steroids are all a type of hormone...
I can just picture you holding your little baby it is going to happen... just got to hang on and be strong...Talk a lot about it to ppl who can let you vent ... scream..yell... do what ever but don't quit...
IN my prayers,
Jennifer
JennifersHope
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Julie... I am so unbelievably sorry to you and Mark that you are going through such heartache.. To me it is unacceptable... and inhuman... I so wish I had something I could do to help you.. I just don't know what.. DO you think getting a doctors note stating it is not safe not to have the egg retrival will help? I don't know anything nurse wise about this procedure...... but if they keep messing with you, your mental health is going to really suffer and you are not going to be able to serve on a ship...... so they better knock it off...
I am so sorry.... I am so frustrated for you... I do know in the end you will have a baby I just know it.. I just hate all this up and downs to get there.... I am not sure if this helps..but for me since I am also in a battle for my hearts desire.. to me the more I battle the greater the sweetness it is going to be in the end...I cry with overwhelmed emotion just thinking about my graduation... I know it must be really hard for you being on all those hormones and trying to deal with this..... believe it or not I really do understand.. steroids are all a type of hormone...
I can just picture you holding your little baby it is going to happen... just got to hang on and be strong...Talk a lot about it to ppl who can let you vent ... scream..yell... do what ever but don't quit...
IN my prayers,
Jennifer
I am so sorry.... I am so frustrated for you... I do know in the end you will have a baby I just know it.. I just hate all this up and downs to get there.... I am not sure if this helps..but for me since I am also in a battle for my hearts desire.. to me the more I battle the greater the sweetness it is going to be in the end...I cry with overwhelmed emotion just thinking about my graduation... I know it must be really hard for you being on all those hormones and trying to deal with this..... believe it or not I really do understand.. steroids are all a type of hormone...
I can just picture you holding your little baby it is going to happen... just got to hang on and be strong...Talk a lot about it to ppl who can let you vent ... scream..yell... do what ever but don't quit...
IN my prayers,
Jennifer
Another twist, isn't life funny and just so grand. Is it just me or are you and I having the month from HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I go into work today and am told, "we have your itinerary for the flight tomorrow morning at 0800 to San Diego. You must be at the airport at 0600". I said, "wait a minute, brakes on" and I showed them the letter my infertility doctor wrote that stated the following
"Julie has been under my care since moving to WA... after she was given a verbal ok that treatment would likely be approved all the way up the chain she started the meds on the point of no return. Although there is honestly very little risk, the meds Julie is on now is causing cysts to build in her ovaries that will fill with eggs. These cysts/eggs will continue to grow even if she discontinues the medications. Given that fact, there is a slight chance that the continued growth will cause a rupture of the cyst(s) causing a medical emergency at sea. As a prior navy officer (medical) I can imagine that is not something any medical personnel would like to deal with at sea."
So, imagine this, NOBODY cared. Oh a ruptured cyst, possible medical emergency... I wanted to scream. There is one Senior chief who has been very dilligent in assisting me with this, but everyone else is in a cloud without a clue as to how to handle this, or even try to figure it out.
Apparently though, there were other complications with my "sea duty" screening and it was questionable as to whether or not I was fit for sea duty. So I had a sea duty screening scheduled for 1300 today to go over everything again. In filling out the paperwork they discovered I hadn't had a pap in over a year, I hadn't had an HIV draw in over 2 years... So, as my luck turned just slightly... That immediately disqualifies me from going to the ship and the soonest pap appt. is on 8 February. I had my HIV lab drawn today but those results take 2-3 weeks (standard everyone in the military has HIV draw every 12 months and before and after every deployment, even if less than 12 months). The people at TPU told me, "unless your sea duty screening says not fit for sea duty, you will fly out of here tomorrow". Guess what, IT SAID NOT FIT FOR SEA DUTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never been so excited to see those words in my entire life.
So that's out of the way, but I am still in limbo. This senior chief who has been most helpful to me doesn't know what to do with me. Their options are to categorize me as limited duty until I get the pap and the HIV and then possibly even await the pregnancy test in mid february (although now I have to figure out who to talk to for authorization to continue the IVF) or they can request that I just be put on shore duty but that is up to the detailers and completely out of his, or his captain's control. He hopes to have more information for me tomorrow, but the detailers are in Tennessee and tomorrow's friday. They are 3 (maybe 2) hours ahead and ALWAYS go home early on Fridays or take the day off.
So for now, I stay.
Just got a call from the doctors office, apparently I am NOT off to a "rip-roaring" start on the meds, my estradiol is only 90 (completely forgot to ask her what is the "normal" range) but they want me to continue on the same dosage and come in on Saturday for labs again. Hopefully it's just been all this stress and worry and now my body will just shoot off in reacting to the medication.
Any previous IVFers out there reading this, can anyone remember their estradiol's??? I just started the shots on the evening of the 24th, then did them again AM and PM on the 25th and AM today and will do PM so my blood only reflected 4 injections of 150 iu's.
I go into work today and am told, "we have your itinerary for the flight tomorrow morning at 0800 to San Diego. You must be at the airport at 0600". I said, "wait a minute, brakes on" and I showed them the letter my infertility doctor wrote that stated the following
"Julie has been under my care since moving to WA... after she was given a verbal ok that treatment would likely be approved all the way up the chain she started the meds on the point of no return. Although there is honestly very little risk, the meds Julie is on now is causing cysts to build in her ovaries that will fill with eggs. These cysts/eggs will continue to grow even if she discontinues the medications. Given that fact, there is a slight chance that the continued growth will cause a rupture of the cyst(s) causing a medical emergency at sea. As a prior navy officer (medical) I can imagine that is not something any medical personnel would like to deal with at sea."
So, imagine this, NOBODY cared. Oh a ruptured cyst, possible medical emergency... I wanted to scream. There is one Senior chief who has been very dilligent in assisting me with this, but everyone else is in a cloud without a clue as to how to handle this, or even try to figure it out.
Apparently though, there were other complications with my "sea duty" screening and it was questionable as to whether or not I was fit for sea duty. So I had a sea duty screening scheduled for 1300 today to go over everything again. In filling out the paperwork they discovered I hadn't had a pap in over a year, I hadn't had an HIV draw in over 2 years... So, as my luck turned just slightly... That immediately disqualifies me from going to the ship and the soonest pap appt. is on 8 February. I had my HIV lab drawn today but those results take 2-3 weeks (standard everyone in the military has HIV draw every 12 months and before and after every deployment, even if less than 12 months). The people at TPU told me, "unless your sea duty screening says not fit for sea duty, you will fly out of here tomorrow". Guess what, IT SAID NOT FIT FOR SEA DUTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never been so excited to see those words in my entire life.
So that's out of the way, but I am still in limbo. This senior chief who has been most helpful to me doesn't know what to do with me. Their options are to categorize me as limited duty until I get the pap and the HIV and then possibly even await the pregnancy test in mid february (although now I have to figure out who to talk to for authorization to continue the IVF) or they can request that I just be put on shore duty but that is up to the detailers and completely out of his, or his captain's control. He hopes to have more information for me tomorrow, but the detailers are in Tennessee and tomorrow's friday. They are 3 (maybe 2) hours ahead and ALWAYS go home early on Fridays or take the day off.
So for now, I stay.
Just got a call from the doctors office, apparently I am NOT off to a "rip-roaring" start on the meds, my estradiol is only 90 (completely forgot to ask her what is the "normal" range) but they want me to continue on the same dosage and come in on Saturday for labs again. Hopefully it's just been all this stress and worry and now my body will just shoot off in reacting to the medication.
Any previous IVFers out there reading this, can anyone remember their estradiol's??? I just started the shots on the evening of the 24th, then did them again AM and PM on the 25th and AM today and will do PM so my blood only reflected 4 injections of 150 iu's.
Another twist, isn't life funny and just so grand. Is it just me or are you and I having the month from HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I go into work today and am told, "we have your itinerary for the flight tomorrow morning at 0800 to San Diego. You must be at the airport at 0600". I said, "wait a minute, brakes on" and I showed them the letter my infertility doctor wrote that stated the following
"Julie has been under my care since moving to WA... after she was given a verbal ok that treatment would likely be approved all the way up the chain she started the meds on the point of no return. Although there is honestly very little risk, the meds Julie is on now is causing cysts to build in her ovaries that will fill with eggs. These cysts/eggs will continue to grow even if she discontinues the medications. Given that fact, there is a slight chance that the continued growth will cause a rupture of the cyst(s) causing a medical emergency at sea. As a prior navy officer (medical) I can imagine that is not something any medical personnel would like to deal with at sea."
So, imagine this, NOBODY cared. Oh a ruptured cyst, possible medical emergency... I wanted to scream. There is one Senior chief who has been very dilligent in assisting me with this, but everyone else is in a cloud without a clue as to how to handle this, or even try to figure it out.
Apparently though, there were other complications with my "sea duty" screening and it was questionable as to whether or not I was fit for sea duty. So I had a sea duty screening scheduled for 1300 today to go over everything again. In filling out the paperwork they discovered I hadn't had a pap in over a year, I hadn't had an HIV draw in over 2 years... So, as my luck turned just slightly... That immediately disqualifies me from going to the ship and the soonest pap appt. is on 8 February. I had my HIV lab drawn today but those results take 2-3 weeks (standard everyone in the military has HIV draw every 12 months and before and after every deployment, even if less than 12 months). The people at TPU told me, "unless your sea duty screening says not fit for sea duty, you will fly out of here tomorrow". Guess what, IT SAID NOT FIT FOR SEA DUTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never been so excited to see those words in my entire life.
So that's out of the way, but I am still in limbo. This senior chief who has been most helpful to me doesn't know what to do with me. Their options are to categorize me as limited duty until I get the pap and the HIV and then possibly even await the pregnancy test in mid february (although now I have to figure out who to talk to for authorization to continue the IVF) or they can request that I just be put on shore duty but that is up to the detailers and completely out of his, or his captain's control. He hopes to have more information for me tomorrow, but the detailers are in Tennessee and tomorrow's friday. They are 3 (maybe 2) hours ahead and ALWAYS go home early on Fridays or take the day off.
So for now, I stay.
Just got a call from the doctors office, apparently I am NOT off to a "rip-roaring" start on the meds, my estradiol is only 90 (completely forgot to ask her what is the "normal" range) but they want me to continue on the same dosage and come in on Saturday for labs again. Hopefully it's just been all this stress and worry and now my body will just shoot off in reacting to the medication.
Any previous IVFers out there reading this, can anyone remember their estradiol's??? I just started the shots on the evening of the 24th, then did them again AM and PM on the 25th and AM today and will do PM so my blood only reflected 4 injections of 150 iu's.
I go into work today and am told, "we have your itinerary for the flight tomorrow morning at 0800 to San Diego. You must be at the airport at 0600". I said, "wait a minute, brakes on" and I showed them the letter my infertility doctor wrote that stated the following
"Julie has been under my care since moving to WA... after she was given a verbal ok that treatment would likely be approved all the way up the chain she started the meds on the point of no return. Although there is honestly very little risk, the meds Julie is on now is causing cysts to build in her ovaries that will fill with eggs. These cysts/eggs will continue to grow even if she discontinues the medications. Given that fact, there is a slight chance that the continued growth will cause a rupture of the cyst(s) causing a medical emergency at sea. As a prior navy officer (medical) I can imagine that is not something any medical personnel would like to deal with at sea."
So, imagine this, NOBODY cared. Oh a ruptured cyst, possible medical emergency... I wanted to scream. There is one Senior chief who has been very dilligent in assisting me with this, but everyone else is in a cloud without a clue as to how to handle this, or even try to figure it out.
Apparently though, there were other complications with my "sea duty" screening and it was questionable as to whether or not I was fit for sea duty. So I had a sea duty screening scheduled for 1300 today to go over everything again. In filling out the paperwork they discovered I hadn't had a pap in over a year, I hadn't had an HIV draw in over 2 years... So, as my luck turned just slightly... That immediately disqualifies me from going to the ship and the soonest pap appt. is on 8 February. I had my HIV lab drawn today but those results take 2-3 weeks (standard everyone in the military has HIV draw every 12 months and before and after every deployment, even if less than 12 months). The people at TPU told me, "unless your sea duty screening says not fit for sea duty, you will fly out of here tomorrow". Guess what, IT SAID NOT FIT FOR SEA DUTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have never been so excited to see those words in my entire life.
So that's out of the way, but I am still in limbo. This senior chief who has been most helpful to me doesn't know what to do with me. Their options are to categorize me as limited duty until I get the pap and the HIV and then possibly even await the pregnancy test in mid february (although now I have to figure out who to talk to for authorization to continue the IVF) or they can request that I just be put on shore duty but that is up to the detailers and completely out of his, or his captain's control. He hopes to have more information for me tomorrow, but the detailers are in Tennessee and tomorrow's friday. They are 3 (maybe 2) hours ahead and ALWAYS go home early on Fridays or take the day off.
So for now, I stay.
Just got a call from the doctors office, apparently I am NOT off to a "rip-roaring" start on the meds, my estradiol is only 90 (completely forgot to ask her what is the "normal" range) but they want me to continue on the same dosage and come in on Saturday for labs again. Hopefully it's just been all this stress and worry and now my body will just shoot off in reacting to the medication.
Any previous IVFers out there reading this, can anyone remember their estradiol's??? I just started the shots on the evening of the 24th, then did them again AM and PM on the 25th and AM today and will do PM so my blood only reflected 4 injections of 150 iu's.
JennifersHope
New member
Julie and Mark..
I am sticking to my story.. I believe in my heart that if you keep fixed on the end result.. Things will fall into place.. You are young healthy and it is going to happen.. I just know it..
In the meantime... The drama that they are making you go through is horrible....I know this is funny coming from me.. "the stressed out one".... but putting things in perspective.. working them through in your head.. talking about it.. processing are all really important steps.. to help you deal. ( and me)
Try to find inner peace somehow..and not let anyone or any situation take it from you.... I got really good advice on not giving situations power over me... I know it is truth..easier said then done.....Ha.. If only... but I know I can do it...and I know you can.... I am trying to only allow myself a certain amount of time to worry, fret or process, then I am blocking in out......and being real kind to myself.. or trying...
Please take good care of yourself .. as good of care as you would want the person you love the most to take care of themselves.. Stress will without a doubt effect things in your body... DOn't give those freakers enough power to do that..
Love,
Jennifer
I am sticking to my story.. I believe in my heart that if you keep fixed on the end result.. Things will fall into place.. You are young healthy and it is going to happen.. I just know it..
In the meantime... The drama that they are making you go through is horrible....I know this is funny coming from me.. "the stressed out one".... but putting things in perspective.. working them through in your head.. talking about it.. processing are all really important steps.. to help you deal. ( and me)
Try to find inner peace somehow..and not let anyone or any situation take it from you.... I got really good advice on not giving situations power over me... I know it is truth..easier said then done.....Ha.. If only... but I know I can do it...and I know you can.... I am trying to only allow myself a certain amount of time to worry, fret or process, then I am blocking in out......and being real kind to myself.. or trying...
Please take good care of yourself .. as good of care as you would want the person you love the most to take care of themselves.. Stress will without a doubt effect things in your body... DOn't give those freakers enough power to do that..
Love,
Jennifer
JennifersHope
New member
Julie and Mark..
I am sticking to my story.. I believe in my heart that if you keep fixed on the end result.. Things will fall into place.. You are young healthy and it is going to happen.. I just know it..
In the meantime... The drama that they are making you go through is horrible....I know this is funny coming from me.. "the stressed out one".... but putting things in perspective.. working them through in your head.. talking about it.. processing are all really important steps.. to help you deal. ( and me)
Try to find inner peace somehow..and not let anyone or any situation take it from you.... I got really good advice on not giving situations power over me... I know it is truth..easier said then done.....Ha.. If only... but I know I can do it...and I know you can.... I am trying to only allow myself a certain amount of time to worry, fret or process, then I am blocking in out......and being real kind to myself.. or trying...
Please take good care of yourself .. as good of care as you would want the person you love the most to take care of themselves.. Stress will without a doubt effect things in your body... DOn't give those freakers enough power to do that..
Love,
Jennifer
I am sticking to my story.. I believe in my heart that if you keep fixed on the end result.. Things will fall into place.. You are young healthy and it is going to happen.. I just know it..
In the meantime... The drama that they are making you go through is horrible....I know this is funny coming from me.. "the stressed out one".... but putting things in perspective.. working them through in your head.. talking about it.. processing are all really important steps.. to help you deal. ( and me)
Try to find inner peace somehow..and not let anyone or any situation take it from you.... I got really good advice on not giving situations power over me... I know it is truth..easier said then done.....Ha.. If only... but I know I can do it...and I know you can.... I am trying to only allow myself a certain amount of time to worry, fret or process, then I am blocking in out......and being real kind to myself.. or trying...
Please take good care of yourself .. as good of care as you would want the person you love the most to take care of themselves.. Stress will without a doubt effect things in your body... DOn't give those freakers enough power to do that..
Love,
Jennifer
Marks getting stressed, his biggest concern is financially. We're fine, until we laid down the $$$ for this treatment, even with the money from our family member it's still huge dent to us. Mark is concerned about me getting into trouble because as a punishment of Mast sometimes they will fine you (take away 1/2 months pay for 3 months... 6 months...) and sometimes they discharge people but that's usually with previous problems. I have none, my evaluations have always been the highest marks possible, good comments, remarks about being a hard worker, having good conduct.... so the likelyhood of me being discharged for this one infertility thing is limited, but Mark is VERY worried because I am the sole supporter right now. Telling him not to worry doesn't help so I just try to tell him as little as possible while still keeping him informed so he can weigh in and make decisions.
Marks getting stressed, his biggest concern is financially. We're fine, until we laid down the $$$ for this treatment, even with the money from our family member it's still huge dent to us. Mark is concerned about me getting into trouble because as a punishment of Mast sometimes they will fine you (take away 1/2 months pay for 3 months... 6 months...) and sometimes they discharge people but that's usually with previous problems. I have none, my evaluations have always been the highest marks possible, good comments, remarks about being a hard worker, having good conduct.... so the likelyhood of me being discharged for this one infertility thing is limited, but Mark is VERY worried because I am the sole supporter right now. Telling him not to worry doesn't help so I just try to tell him as little as possible while still keeping him informed so he can weigh in and make decisions.