I would like to show you how I am overcoming my disease!

Scarlett81

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i really don't get what the big deal is.
this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. if you do agree, try the things and see what works.
what harm is there in seeing if something you haven't yet tried will work or not? (within reason here, i'm not talking about extreme things that can be obviously harmful)

and maybe it stings, but he's absolutely right that alot of people that get all worked up about articles like this are the people that have had a harder time with their illness and take it personally as if they've done something wrong, which isn't true.

and yes, i completely agree that some (not all, but many) people w serious illness get caught up in the victim mentality. in many cases its unavoidable bc we have to be so involved in our health everyday. but, getting stuck in it to the point where we sit back and do nothing, that is the danger.

bottom line-if you want to try something new to see if it works and its basically harmless-why not? if not, move on.
 

Scarlett81

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i really don't get what the big deal is.
this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. if you do agree, try the things and see what works.
what harm is there in seeing if something you haven't yet tried will work or not? (within reason here, i'm not talking about extreme things that can be obviously harmful)

and maybe it stings, but he's absolutely right that alot of people that get all worked up about articles like this are the people that have had a harder time with their illness and take it personally as if they've done something wrong, which isn't true.

and yes, i completely agree that some (not all, but many) people w serious illness get caught up in the victim mentality. in many cases its unavoidable bc we have to be so involved in our health everyday. but, getting stuck in it to the point where we sit back and do nothing, that is the danger.

bottom line-if you want to try something new to see if it works and its basically harmless-why not? if not, move on.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i really don't get what the big deal is.
this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. if you do agree, try the things and see what works.
what harm is there in seeing if something you haven't yet tried will work or not? (within reason here, i'm not talking about extreme things that can be obviously harmful)

and maybe it stings, but he's absolutely right that alot of people that get all worked up about articles like this are the people that have had a harder time with their illness and take it personally as if they've done something wrong, which isn't true.

and yes, i completely agree that some (not all, but many) people w serious illness get caught up in the victim mentality. in many cases its unavoidable bc we have to be so involved in our health everyday. but, getting stuck in it to the point where we sit back and do nothing, that is the danger.

bottom line-if you want to try something new to see if it works and its basically harmless-why not? if not, move on.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i really don't get what the big deal is.
this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. if you do agree, try the things and see what works.
what harm is there in seeing if something you haven't yet tried will work or not? (within reason here, i'm not talking about extreme things that can be obviously harmful)

and maybe it stings, but he's absolutely right that alot of people that get all worked up about articles like this are the people that have had a harder time with their illness and take it personally as if they've done something wrong, which isn't true.

and yes, i completely agree that some (not all, but many) people w serious illness get caught up in the victim mentality. in many cases its unavoidable bc we have to be so involved in our health everyday. but, getting stuck in it to the point where we sit back and do nothing, that is the danger.

bottom line-if you want to try something new to see if it works and its basically harmless-why not? if not, move on.
 

Scarlett81

New member
i really don't get what the big deal is.
this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. if you do agree, try the things and see what works.
what harm is there in seeing if something you haven't yet tried will work or not? (within reason here, i'm not talking about extreme things that can be obviously harmful)

and maybe it stings, but he's absolutely right that alot of people that get all worked up about articles like this are the people that have had a harder time with their illness and take it personally as if they've done something wrong, which isn't true.

and yes, i completely agree that some (not all, but many) people w serious illness get caught up in the victim mentality. in many cases its unavoidable bc we have to be so involved in our health everyday. but, getting stuck in it to the point where we sit back and do nothing, that is the danger.

bottom line-if you want to try something new to see if it works and its basically harmless-why not? if not, move on.
 

Scottius

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. </end quote></div>

What's wrong with disagreeing, as long as it doesn't get too nasty or personal? I see good points coming both from Evan and his website, as well as those who don't necessarily agree with all his points. It's a question of realism vs. idealism: keeping a positive attitude and being open to ones own potential, but at the same time not losing touch with the actual reality at hand.

Too much idealism, and one may make some overly risky choices that could cause harm in the long run. Also, being overly idealistic when healthy may cause something of a mental crash when and if ones condition deteriorates. On the other hand, being too cautious and overly "realistic" (for lack of a better term) can be self-limiting. Mindset can have an effect on one's physical health, and if one believes that one cannot improve, it probably won't help matters any.

So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.
 

Scottius

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. </end quote></div>

What's wrong with disagreeing, as long as it doesn't get too nasty or personal? I see good points coming both from Evan and his website, as well as those who don't necessarily agree with all his points. It's a question of realism vs. idealism: keeping a positive attitude and being open to ones own potential, but at the same time not losing touch with the actual reality at hand.

Too much idealism, and one may make some overly risky choices that could cause harm in the long run. Also, being overly idealistic when healthy may cause something of a mental crash when and if ones condition deteriorates. On the other hand, being too cautious and overly "realistic" (for lack of a better term) can be self-limiting. Mindset can have an effect on one's physical health, and if one believes that one cannot improve, it probably won't help matters any.

So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.
 

Scottius

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. </end quote></div>

What's wrong with disagreeing, as long as it doesn't get too nasty or personal? I see good points coming both from Evan and his website, as well as those who don't necessarily agree with all his points. It's a question of realism vs. idealism: keeping a positive attitude and being open to ones own potential, but at the same time not losing touch with the actual reality at hand.

Too much idealism, and one may make some overly risky choices that could cause harm in the long run. Also, being overly idealistic when healthy may cause something of a mental crash when and if ones condition deteriorates. On the other hand, being too cautious and overly "realistic" (for lack of a better term) can be self-limiting. Mindset can have an effect on one's physical health, and if one believes that one cannot improve, it probably won't help matters any.

So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.
 

Scottius

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. </end quote>

What's wrong with disagreeing, as long as it doesn't get too nasty or personal? I see good points coming both from Evan and his website, as well as those who don't necessarily agree with all his points. It's a question of realism vs. idealism: keeping a positive attitude and being open to ones own potential, but at the same time not losing touch with the actual reality at hand.

Too much idealism, and one may make some overly risky choices that could cause harm in the long run. Also, being overly idealistic when healthy may cause something of a mental crash when and if ones condition deteriorates. On the other hand, being too cautious and overly "realistic" (for lack of a better term) can be self-limiting. Mindset can have an effect on one's physical health, and if one believes that one cannot improve, it probably won't help matters any.

So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.
 

Scottius

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>this guy has found things that have worked for him-thats great. read it if you want, if you don't agree, move on. </end quote>

What's wrong with disagreeing, as long as it doesn't get too nasty or personal? I see good points coming both from Evan and his website, as well as those who don't necessarily agree with all his points. It's a question of realism vs. idealism: keeping a positive attitude and being open to ones own potential, but at the same time not losing touch with the actual reality at hand.

Too much idealism, and one may make some overly risky choices that could cause harm in the long run. Also, being overly idealistic when healthy may cause something of a mental crash when and if ones condition deteriorates. On the other hand, being too cautious and overly "realistic" (for lack of a better term) can be self-limiting. Mindset can have an effect on one's physical health, and if one believes that one cannot improve, it probably won't help matters any.

So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Audex</b></i>



So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.</end quote></div>

i agree. i think the best way to go is probably somewhere in the middle too.
i guess i'm just tired of anytime someone mentions any alternative medicinal or 'natural' aid for health, their throat gets jumped down. people assume that they are wacks or giving false hope, or whatever...i am all for going with what your doctors reccomends first. i am extremely compliant w my chest pt, meds and traditional medicinal approaches. i'm more compliant than alot of people i talk to.
but i've also found alternative things as an aid to my cf too-things that have made a big difference. like juicing fruits and veggies, bellydancing.....horseback riding. nothing is a cure-not apples, herbs, tobi, albuterol or yoga. but there's alot of things that can help in a big way.

i'm just saying-if this has worked for this guy, and maybe you fee like trying something new...if it doesn't hurt, why not? if you are healthy and really don't need change to your regimen, or don't believe in trying alternative things..fine too.
i dont agree w everything this guy said on his site- but alot of it seems like good advice. exercise, good diet...thats pretty much common sense. if anything can't we just say whether or not you agree, he is only trying to help others and inspire them to get up off their sofas (or computers) and get healthy.

but there are some people that are so against alternative medicine that if a naturopath told you to eat an apple a day they'd say its bad for you.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Audex</b></i>



So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.</end quote></div>

i agree. i think the best way to go is probably somewhere in the middle too.
i guess i'm just tired of anytime someone mentions any alternative medicinal or 'natural' aid for health, their throat gets jumped down. people assume that they are wacks or giving false hope, or whatever...i am all for going with what your doctors reccomends first. i am extremely compliant w my chest pt, meds and traditional medicinal approaches. i'm more compliant than alot of people i talk to.
but i've also found alternative things as an aid to my cf too-things that have made a big difference. like juicing fruits and veggies, bellydancing.....horseback riding. nothing is a cure-not apples, herbs, tobi, albuterol or yoga. but there's alot of things that can help in a big way.

i'm just saying-if this has worked for this guy, and maybe you fee like trying something new...if it doesn't hurt, why not? if you are healthy and really don't need change to your regimen, or don't believe in trying alternative things..fine too.
i dont agree w everything this guy said on his site- but alot of it seems like good advice. exercise, good diet...thats pretty much common sense. if anything can't we just say whether or not you agree, he is only trying to help others and inspire them to get up off their sofas (or computers) and get healthy.

but there are some people that are so against alternative medicine that if a naturopath told you to eat an apple a day they'd say its bad for you.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Audex</b></i>



So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.</end quote></div>

i agree. i think the best way to go is probably somewhere in the middle too.
i guess i'm just tired of anytime someone mentions any alternative medicinal or 'natural' aid for health, their throat gets jumped down. people assume that they are wacks or giving false hope, or whatever...i am all for going with what your doctors reccomends first. i am extremely compliant w my chest pt, meds and traditional medicinal approaches. i'm more compliant than alot of people i talk to.
but i've also found alternative things as an aid to my cf too-things that have made a big difference. like juicing fruits and veggies, bellydancing.....horseback riding. nothing is a cure-not apples, herbs, tobi, albuterol or yoga. but there's alot of things that can help in a big way.

i'm just saying-if this has worked for this guy, and maybe you fee like trying something new...if it doesn't hurt, why not? if you are healthy and really don't need change to your regimen, or don't believe in trying alternative things..fine too.
i dont agree w everything this guy said on his site- but alot of it seems like good advice. exercise, good diet...thats pretty much common sense. if anything can't we just say whether or not you agree, he is only trying to help others and inspire them to get up off their sofas (or computers) and get healthy.

but there are some people that are so against alternative medicine that if a naturopath told you to eat an apple a day they'd say its bad for you.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Audex</b></i>



So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.</end quote>

i agree. i think the best way to go is probably somewhere in the middle too.
i guess i'm just tired of anytime someone mentions any alternative medicinal or 'natural' aid for health, their throat gets jumped down. people assume that they are wacks or giving false hope, or whatever...i am all for going with what your doctors reccomends first. i am extremely compliant w my chest pt, meds and traditional medicinal approaches. i'm more compliant than alot of people i talk to.
but i've also found alternative things as an aid to my cf too-things that have made a big difference. like juicing fruits and veggies, bellydancing.....horseback riding. nothing is a cure-not apples, herbs, tobi, albuterol or yoga. but there's alot of things that can help in a big way.

i'm just saying-if this has worked for this guy, and maybe you fee like trying something new...if it doesn't hurt, why not? if you are healthy and really don't need change to your regimen, or don't believe in trying alternative things..fine too.
i dont agree w everything this guy said on his site- but alot of it seems like good advice. exercise, good diet...thats pretty much common sense. if anything can't we just say whether or not you agree, he is only trying to help others and inspire them to get up off their sofas (or computers) and get healthy.

but there are some people that are so against alternative medicine that if a naturopath told you to eat an apple a day they'd say its bad for you.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Audex</b></i>



So, I guess I believe that striking some kind of golden mean between these two mindsets is what I strive for, although I tend toward the more cynical and cautious end in actuality.</end quote>

i agree. i think the best way to go is probably somewhere in the middle too.
i guess i'm just tired of anytime someone mentions any alternative medicinal or 'natural' aid for health, their throat gets jumped down. people assume that they are wacks or giving false hope, or whatever...i am all for going with what your doctors reccomends first. i am extremely compliant w my chest pt, meds and traditional medicinal approaches. i'm more compliant than alot of people i talk to.
but i've also found alternative things as an aid to my cf too-things that have made a big difference. like juicing fruits and veggies, bellydancing.....horseback riding. nothing is a cure-not apples, herbs, tobi, albuterol or yoga. but there's alot of things that can help in a big way.

i'm just saying-if this has worked for this guy, and maybe you fee like trying something new...if it doesn't hurt, why not? if you are healthy and really don't need change to your regimen, or don't believe in trying alternative things..fine too.
i dont agree w everything this guy said on his site- but alot of it seems like good advice. exercise, good diet...thats pretty much common sense. if anything can't we just say whether or not you agree, he is only trying to help others and inspire them to get up off their sofas (or computers) and get healthy.

but there are some people that are so against alternative medicine that if a naturopath told you to eat an apple a day they'd say its bad for you.
 

LeneSouthAfrica

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Quoted <b>" Lene South Africa- The depression article has the references embedded into the text, you need to click on the highlighted words to be linked to the articles I referenced. "</b>

Thanks Evan, I didn't realize this. "My Bad!" (or whatever that apologetic thing is they say in America lol)
 

LeneSouthAfrica

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Quoted <b>" Lene South Africa- The depression article has the references embedded into the text, you need to click on the highlighted words to be linked to the articles I referenced. "</b>

Thanks Evan, I didn't realize this. "My Bad!" (or whatever that apologetic thing is they say in America lol)
 

LeneSouthAfrica

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Quoted <b>" Lene South Africa- The depression article has the references embedded into the text, you need to click on the highlighted words to be linked to the articles I referenced. "</b>

Thanks Evan, I didn't realize this. "My Bad!" (or whatever that apologetic thing is they say in America lol)
 

LeneSouthAfrica

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Quoted <b>" Lene South Africa- The depression article has the references embedded into the text, you need to click on the highlighted words to be linked to the articles I referenced. "</b>

Thanks Evan, I didn't realize this. "My Bad!" (or whatever that apologetic thing is they say in America lol)
 

LeneSouthAfrica

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Quoted <b>" Lene South Africa- The depression article has the references embedded into the text, you need to click on the highlighted words to be linked to the articles I referenced. "</b>

Thanks Evan, I didn't realize this. "My Bad!" (or whatever that apologetic thing is they say in America lol)
 
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