January 23, 2008...Do people fear genetic testing...take the poll

[Faust]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I'll make you an offer. I'll come and work in your hospital helping others for a year, if you come with me and my summoned hordes of thousand netherworld vengeance dealers upon the capitol and systematically impale all of our elected officials ala Vlad. Then we can start with reinstating the kind wonderful people we know into the new vacant seats as our new representatives/leaders. Then sit back and watch for 20 years, and see if power does indeed corrupt the pure of heart, or if it's an innate cancer via genes/upbringing.


And you are probably right to an extent. While I fully know there are wonderful people out there, most people I see/hear about are complete wastes of carbon.

 

[Faust]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I'll make you an offer. I'll come and work in your hospital helping others for a year, if you come with me and my summoned hordes of thousand netherworld vengeance dealers upon the capitol and systematically impale all of our elected officials ala Vlad. Then we can start with reinstating the kind wonderful people we know into the new vacant seats as our new representatives/leaders. Then sit back and watch for 20 years, and see if power does indeed corrupt the pure of heart, or if it's an innate cancer via genes/upbringing.


And you are probably right to an extent. While I fully know there are wonderful people out there, most people I see/hear about are complete wastes of carbon.

 

[Faust]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I'll make you an offer. I'll come and work in your hospital helping others for a year, if you come with me and my summoned hordes of thousand netherworld vengeance dealers upon the capitol and systematically impale all of our elected officials ala Vlad. Then we can start with reinstating the kind wonderful people we know into the new vacant seats as our new representatives/leaders. Then sit back and watch for 20 years, and see if power does indeed corrupt the pure of heart, or if it's an innate cancer via genes/upbringing.


And you are probably right to an extent. While I fully know there are wonderful people out there, most people I see/hear about are complete wastes of carbon.

 

[Faust]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I'll make you an offer. I'll come and work in your hospital helping others for a year, if you come with me and my summoned hordes of thousand netherworld vengeance dealers upon the capitol and systematically impale all of our elected officials ala Vlad. Then we can start with reinstating the kind wonderful people we know into the new vacant seats as our new representatives/leaders. Then sit back and watch for 20 years, and see if power does indeed corrupt the pure of heart, or if it's an innate cancer via genes/upbringing.


And you are probably right to an extent. While I fully know there are wonderful people out there, most people I see/hear about are complete wastes of carbon.

 

[Faust]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I'll make you an offer. I'll come and work in your hospital helping others for a year, if you come with me and my summoned hordes of thousand netherworld vengeance dealers upon the capitol and systematically impale all of our elected officials ala Vlad. Then we can start with reinstating the kind wonderful people we know into the new vacant seats as our new representatives/leaders. Then sit back and watch for 20 years, and see if power does indeed corrupt the pure of heart, or if it's an innate cancer via genes/upbringing.


And you are probably right to an extent. While I fully know there are wonderful people out there, most people I see/hear about are complete wastes of carbon.

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

Spacey... your mom got lucky. There is no cure for any cancer whatsoever. Some people get cancer, get treated, and never see it again. Good for them. Other people get cancer, get treated, and it shows its ugly head again anyways.

You can't count chemo, radiation, and surgery as a "cure" for cancer, because there's always the "oh will it be back this time?" worry when you go in for the next round of tests. And for a lot of people, it does come back.

If it was truly a <b>cure</b>, you'd get it, move on, and never worry about your cancer again. Not to mention there are some cancers with a much sh*ttier rate of treatment than others. I have a friend who has a really evil and aggressive brain cancer that has already reappeared despite surgery, radiation, and chemo.</end quote></div>

Em, the way I see it, mom can of course get cancer again (knock on wood) - but it won't be the same cancer! It would be a new one. Like when you get a cold, or a flu, you cure it, and later you catch another. You were cured of the first, but this is a new one.

(Mom had mastectomy when she was 75; no need for chemo, radiation, nothing! Yes, she got lucky! She's now 84, so she's been 9 years cancer-free. )

I think it also depends of how you define the word "cure".

For example there are now vaccines against some cancers; 100% guaranteed, like the womb cancer by papiloma virus if taken before starting sex life. From a point of view we might say there is a cure (the vaccine). I know, a vaccine is preventative, but if you define cure as "eradication of a disease" it is a cure!

CF being genetic, we can't speak of it being "cured" and then "coming back". A cure in this case would be definitive. Unlike my mom's cancer; if she's unlucky to have cancer again (knock on wood) for me it will be irrespective of the tumor she had. If you substitute tumor for cancer, you'll understand what I 'm trying to say.
Except in the case of methastases (sp?) cancer may be cured and future instances will have nothing to do with the former. Of course cancer as a whole, cancer in general, has no cure, fully agreed!

BTW - I'm very sorry about your friend :-(

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

Spacey... your mom got lucky. There is no cure for any cancer whatsoever. Some people get cancer, get treated, and never see it again. Good for them. Other people get cancer, get treated, and it shows its ugly head again anyways.

You can't count chemo, radiation, and surgery as a "cure" for cancer, because there's always the "oh will it be back this time?" worry when you go in for the next round of tests. And for a lot of people, it does come back.

If it was truly a <b>cure</b>, you'd get it, move on, and never worry about your cancer again. Not to mention there are some cancers with a much sh*ttier rate of treatment than others. I have a friend who has a really evil and aggressive brain cancer that has already reappeared despite surgery, radiation, and chemo.</end quote></div>

Em, the way I see it, mom can of course get cancer again (knock on wood) - but it won't be the same cancer! It would be a new one. Like when you get a cold, or a flu, you cure it, and later you catch another. You were cured of the first, but this is a new one.

(Mom had mastectomy when she was 75; no need for chemo, radiation, nothing! Yes, she got lucky! She's now 84, so she's been 9 years cancer-free. )

I think it also depends of how you define the word "cure".

For example there are now vaccines against some cancers; 100% guaranteed, like the womb cancer by papiloma virus if taken before starting sex life. From a point of view we might say there is a cure (the vaccine). I know, a vaccine is preventative, but if you define cure as "eradication of a disease" it is a cure!

CF being genetic, we can't speak of it being "cured" and then "coming back". A cure in this case would be definitive. Unlike my mom's cancer; if she's unlucky to have cancer again (knock on wood) for me it will be irrespective of the tumor she had. If you substitute tumor for cancer, you'll understand what I 'm trying to say.
Except in the case of methastases (sp?) cancer may be cured and future instances will have nothing to do with the former. Of course cancer as a whole, cancer in general, has no cure, fully agreed!

BTW - I'm very sorry about your friend :-(

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

Spacey... your mom got lucky. There is no cure for any cancer whatsoever. Some people get cancer, get treated, and never see it again. Good for them. Other people get cancer, get treated, and it shows its ugly head again anyways.

You can't count chemo, radiation, and surgery as a "cure" for cancer, because there's always the "oh will it be back this time?" worry when you go in for the next round of tests. And for a lot of people, it does come back.

If it was truly a <b>cure</b>, you'd get it, move on, and never worry about your cancer again. Not to mention there are some cancers with a much sh*ttier rate of treatment than others. I have a friend who has a really evil and aggressive brain cancer that has already reappeared despite surgery, radiation, and chemo.</end quote></div>

Em, the way I see it, mom can of course get cancer again (knock on wood) - but it won't be the same cancer! It would be a new one. Like when you get a cold, or a flu, you cure it, and later you catch another. You were cured of the first, but this is a new one.

(Mom had mastectomy when she was 75; no need for chemo, radiation, nothing! Yes, she got lucky! She's now 84, so she's been 9 years cancer-free. )

I think it also depends of how you define the word "cure".

For example there are now vaccines against some cancers; 100% guaranteed, like the womb cancer by papiloma virus if taken before starting sex life. From a point of view we might say there is a cure (the vaccine). I know, a vaccine is preventative, but if you define cure as "eradication of a disease" it is a cure!

CF being genetic, we can't speak of it being "cured" and then "coming back". A cure in this case would be definitive. Unlike my mom's cancer; if she's unlucky to have cancer again (knock on wood) for me it will be irrespective of the tumor she had. If you substitute tumor for cancer, you'll understand what I 'm trying to say.
Except in the case of methastases (sp?) cancer may be cured and future instances will have nothing to do with the former. Of course cancer as a whole, cancer in general, has no cure, fully agreed!

BTW - I'm very sorry about your friend :-(

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

Spacey... your mom got lucky. There is no cure for any cancer whatsoever. Some people get cancer, get treated, and never see it again. Good for them. Other people get cancer, get treated, and it shows its ugly head again anyways.

You can't count chemo, radiation, and surgery as a "cure" for cancer, because there's always the "oh will it be back this time?" worry when you go in for the next round of tests. And for a lot of people, it does come back.

If it was truly a <b>cure</b>, you'd get it, move on, and never worry about your cancer again. Not to mention there are some cancers with a much sh*ttier rate of treatment than others. I have a friend who has a really evil and aggressive brain cancer that has already reappeared despite surgery, radiation, and chemo.</end quote>

Em, the way I see it, mom can of course get cancer again (knock on wood) - but it won't be the same cancer! It would be a new one. Like when you get a cold, or a flu, you cure it, and later you catch another. You were cured of the first, but this is a new one.

(Mom had mastectomy when she was 75; no need for chemo, radiation, nothing! Yes, she got lucky! She's now 84, so she's been 9 years cancer-free. )

I think it also depends of how you define the word "cure".

For example there are now vaccines against some cancers; 100% guaranteed, like the womb cancer by papiloma virus if taken before starting sex life. From a point of view we might say there is a cure (the vaccine). I know, a vaccine is preventative, but if you define cure as "eradication of a disease" it is a cure!

CF being genetic, we can't speak of it being "cured" and then "coming back". A cure in this case would be definitive. Unlike my mom's cancer; if she's unlucky to have cancer again (knock on wood) for me it will be irrespective of the tumor she had. If you substitute tumor for cancer, you'll understand what I 'm trying to say.
Except in the case of methastases (sp?) cancer may be cured and future instances will have nothing to do with the former. Of course cancer as a whole, cancer in general, has no cure, fully agreed!

BTW - I'm very sorry about your friend :-(

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Emily65Roses</b></i>

Spacey... your mom got lucky. There is no cure for any cancer whatsoever. Some people get cancer, get treated, and never see it again. Good for them. Other people get cancer, get treated, and it shows its ugly head again anyways.

You can't count chemo, radiation, and surgery as a "cure" for cancer, because there's always the "oh will it be back this time?" worry when you go in for the next round of tests. And for a lot of people, it does come back.

If it was truly a <b>cure</b>, you'd get it, move on, and never worry about your cancer again. Not to mention there are some cancers with a much sh*ttier rate of treatment than others. I have a friend who has a really evil and aggressive brain cancer that has already reappeared despite surgery, radiation, and chemo.</end quote>

Em, the way I see it, mom can of course get cancer again (knock on wood) - but it won't be the same cancer! It would be a new one. Like when you get a cold, or a flu, you cure it, and later you catch another. You were cured of the first, but this is a new one.

(Mom had mastectomy when she was 75; no need for chemo, radiation, nothing! Yes, she got lucky! She's now 84, so she's been 9 years cancer-free. )

I think it also depends of how you define the word "cure".

For example there are now vaccines against some cancers; 100% guaranteed, like the womb cancer by papiloma virus if taken before starting sex life. From a point of view we might say there is a cure (the vaccine). I know, a vaccine is preventative, but if you define cure as "eradication of a disease" it is a cure!

CF being genetic, we can't speak of it being "cured" and then "coming back". A cure in this case would be definitive. Unlike my mom's cancer; if she's unlucky to have cancer again (knock on wood) for me it will be irrespective of the tumor she had. If you substitute tumor for cancer, you'll understand what I 'm trying to say.
Except in the case of methastases (sp?) cancer may be cured and future instances will have nothing to do with the former. Of course cancer as a whole, cancer in general, has no cure, fully agreed!

BTW - I'm very sorry about your friend :-(

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I see people both ways, the good as Terri, and the bad as Faust.
It must be that way, for every positive there's a negative. Balance rules;yin-yang etc etc.

Fortunately I know more Terri's kind of people than Faust's kind of people, and I believe our survival as a species requires more Love and Sacrifice than Greed and Control.

Like Carl Sagan said: The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. (...)
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I see people both ways, the good as Terri, and the bad as Faust.
It must be that way, for every positive there's a negative. Balance rules;yin-yang etc etc.

Fortunately I know more Terri's kind of people than Faust's kind of people, and I believe our survival as a species requires more Love and Sacrifice than Greed and Control.

Like Carl Sagan said: The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. (...)
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I see people both ways, the good as Terri, and the bad as Faust.
It must be that way, for every positive there's a negative. Balance rules;yin-yang etc etc.

Fortunately I know more Terri's kind of people than Faust's kind of people, and I believe our survival as a species requires more Love and Sacrifice than Greed and Control.

Like Carl Sagan said: The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. (...)
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I see people both ways, the good as Terri, and the bad as Faust.
It must be that way, for every positive there's a negative. Balance rules;yin-yang etc etc.

Fortunately I know more Terri's kind of people than Faust's kind of people, and I believe our survival as a species requires more Love and Sacrifice than Greed and Control.

Like Carl Sagan said: The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. (...)
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

 

[spacemom]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

I see people both ways, the good as Terri, and the bad as Faust.
It must be that way, for every positive there's a negative. Balance rules;yin-yang etc etc.

Fortunately I know more Terri's kind of people than Faust's kind of people, and I believe our survival as a species requires more Love and Sacrifice than Greed and Control.

Like Carl Sagan said: The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. (...)
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.

 

[Emily65Roses]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

Regarding your mom, it's possible to look at it as a new cancer, I suppose, but people who have it before are far more likely to see it again than someone else entirely. So I tend to look at it as a reoccurrence rather than a new one altogether.

The HPV vaccine is a good example, but it doesn't cover every kind of HPV (and therefore leaves a few holes for cancer to get through). Gardasil (the one advertised on TV) only currently covers HPV types 6, 11, 16, and 18. Now, I'm not saying that vaccine sucks. It's awesome as hell. But it still has some big room for improvement.

Though you're right. It has a lot to do with how you define the word cure. I see a lot of things having really good treatments. I don't see very many things having an outright cure.

And thanks. I'm sorry about my friend too. She seems to be doing well this current round. We're hoping this one will kick its ass and she'll never have to see it again. I'm glad your mom is doing so well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Emily65Roses]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

Regarding your mom, it's possible to look at it as a new cancer, I suppose, but people who have it before are far more likely to see it again than someone else entirely. So I tend to look at it as a reoccurrence rather than a new one altogether.

The HPV vaccine is a good example, but it doesn't cover every kind of HPV (and therefore leaves a few holes for cancer to get through). Gardasil (the one advertised on TV) only currently covers HPV types 6, 11, 16, and 18. Now, I'm not saying that vaccine sucks. It's awesome as hell. But it still has some big room for improvement.

Though you're right. It has a lot to do with how you define the word cure. I see a lot of things having really good treatments. I don't see very many things having an outright cure.

And thanks. I'm sorry about my friend too. She seems to be doing well this current round. We're hoping this one will kick its ass and she'll never have to see it again. I'm glad your mom is doing so well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Emily65Roses]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

Regarding your mom, it's possible to look at it as a new cancer, I suppose, but people who have it before are far more likely to see it again than someone else entirely. So I tend to look at it as a reoccurrence rather than a new one altogether.

The HPV vaccine is a good example, but it doesn't cover every kind of HPV (and therefore leaves a few holes for cancer to get through). Gardasil (the one advertised on TV) only currently covers HPV types 6, 11, 16, and 18. Now, I'm not saying that vaccine sucks. It's awesome as hell. But it still has some big room for improvement.

Though you're right. It has a lot to do with how you define the word cure. I see a lot of things having really good treatments. I don't see very many things having an outright cure.

And thanks. I'm sorry about my friend too. She seems to be doing well this current round. We're hoping this one will kick its ass and she'll never have to see it again. I'm glad your mom is doing so well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Emily65Roses]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

Regarding your mom, it's possible to look at it as a new cancer, I suppose, but people who have it before are far more likely to see it again than someone else entirely. So I tend to look at it as a reoccurrence rather than a new one altogether.

The HPV vaccine is a good example, but it doesn't cover every kind of HPV (and therefore leaves a few holes for cancer to get through). Gardasil (the one advertised on TV) only currently covers HPV types 6, 11, 16, and 18. Now, I'm not saying that vaccine sucks. It's awesome as hell. But it still has some big room for improvement.

Though you're right. It has a lot to do with how you define the word cure. I see a lot of things having really good treatments. I don't see very many things having an outright cure.

And thanks. I'm sorry about my friend too. She seems to be doing well this current round. We're hoping this one will kick its ass and she'll never have to see it again. I'm glad your mom is doing so well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[Emily65Roses]

In Your Opinion...When will we have a Cure...take the poll

Regarding your mom, it's possible to look at it as a new cancer, I suppose, but people who have it before are far more likely to see it again than someone else entirely. So I tend to look at it as a reoccurrence rather than a new one altogether.

The HPV vaccine is a good example, but it doesn't cover every kind of HPV (and therefore leaves a few holes for cancer to get through). Gardasil (the one advertised on TV) only currently covers HPV types 6, 11, 16, and 18. Now, I'm not saying that vaccine sucks. It's awesome as hell. But it still has some big room for improvement.

Though you're right. It has a lot to do with how you define the word cure. I see a lot of things having really good treatments. I don't see very many things having an outright cure.

And thanks. I'm sorry about my friend too. She seems to be doing well this current round. We're hoping this one will kick its ass and she'll never have to see it again. I'm glad your mom is doing so well. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">