Looking for others that Had a High Sweat And DID not get a CF Diagnoise?

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madmax33

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Hi Everyone. I will try to post this different. I am looking for others, which had Positive Sweat test, and the CF Center would not give a CF Diagnose? I thought this was the Golden Standard? I also See many Adults, with only one mutation and others not found yet? Also I have tried to research the "Other few rare disease's) and have wrote to those org's regarding a High positive sweat, (and only getting back, " A positive sweat is a Diagnose for CF" ) I also have found through research, These other rare disease, would only cause a board line sweat test, which could throw it off, but not a high sweat. I need some input here, and what others did. Not having a diagnose, now has effected my insurance, getting treatment, and getting to the right center. My gastro, called me the other night also, and I talked with him regarding my stomach issues, ( He was not surprised at all that I would have CF) as he said the stomach and pancreas issues I have had, (well that is CF) He wants me to make a appointment to come in and see him, (As I am having major stomach issues) but is not aware this is going to be a insurance issue at this point to get in to see him.
 

jshet

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Is your sweat test positive or high borderline? If its positive and they are not helping you, find another center.

i think you may not be getting replies because most people who did not receive a disgnoisis, are not on here as often as people with a cf diagnoisis.

Ask your center to repeat the sweat test. If its positive, or high boderline, ask to be referred to another center. If they dont, take things into your own hands, and cobtact a center, get your records, and get a second opinion.
 
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Hi jshet

Hi jshet. Just trying to see if any others have gone through this. (I know there are quite a few adults on here, and I have noticed, some have had a neg or low sweat and still got a diagnose with genetic testing or symptom's) I just wanted to see, if anyone on here has had a high, positive and two at that, and still did not get a diagnose at a CF CENTER??? I have thyroid Hashimotos, but that is under control. I do not think with these other rare disease's that are mentioned on the sweat, would cause a high sweat like I have had. Regardless of the other diseases, I have a multitude of symptom's and problems all my life that point to CF. My lung function is good though. (I really feel the Dr at the CF center, looks just at lungs, and based it just on this) Since they are doing research all the time now on older Adults, and I have read many studies, it is clear they say it should be treated like a multi system disease. I really wonder how many of my problems have caused health issues, due to having CF? I in the past have posted some very long post on my dilemma. Everything I have read, A positive is a Diagnose for CF period. I have insurance issues, chronically ill, and now insurance issues. So just traveling and going to other centers is not a option for me at this point. Getting to the center I have gone to, is also a hardship, 5 hr round trip. The good news as soon as I can get there, the Dr is going to do the Genetic Mapping for me. (my concern, regardless of what comes up, I doubt he will give me a diagnosed anyways) Long story, but it is in my other post.) Just doing this for research purposes. Much of what I have read, since they are finding new mutations all the time, and it is not based on genetic study's if you have a high positive sweat test. (this is the golden standard test) And yes, I have had two Positive high sweat test. One here at the hosp, and one at the CF center. High 90, and second was 86. My over all health is not good at all, and yes I wonder with being a older adult, how much can be CF related. Not only for treatment, but my over all health, if I had got a diagnose, I would not be in this dilemma now with insurance issues. Standford is willing to see me, and said to go through the genetic testing since this Dr is willing to do it. (again though, the travel, 10=12 hrs each way, and the insurance is a big issue) It is going to take me more time to try and do this now. I cant drive myself and there is also expense with going that far. I am just so frustrated , to get as far as I did, and feel like I am no where ahead even with two positive sweat test! The first one was back in sept on 2014. So that has been 4 months already. I need to travel to the center first to sign papers to put me on the registry. I am hoping they can draw blood at the same time so I don't have to go down after they get a number. I have major stomach issues and had bile duc surgery back in 2010. My stomach has been acting up again for the past yr. I also noticed with a Ct in Sept of 2014, on the report, (but on the disc itself) it stated I had inflamed bile ducs. I have talked with my gastro, and he wants me to come in. He said it did not surprise him, that I would have CF. I am at a loss though, as I have noticed on the board, people with the Cf diagnose at centers, say the center looks at you as a whole. also I have seen where others have said, be sure and get a CF Gastro. So makes me wonder if I have to get surgery again? Or what, would it be the correct treatment and so forth if I have CF? The Gastro Dr talked about surgery again , and cutting something, or ablation to give me some relief. I am trying in every way I know how, but sometimes when you just cant do it yourself, you just cant. I hope to get well enough, and move out of this area. Trying to stay positive, but it is really hard when you see no light at the end of the tunnel. (Don't mean to be negative, but I have been through the ringer with medical crap and neglect for the past 14 yrs which has taken a drastic affect on my life) It just would be nice to be going in the correct direction with a proper diagnose, and now who and how is going to treat me.

Is your sweat test positive or high borderline? If its positive and they are not helping you, find another center.

i think you may not be getting replies because most people who did not receive a disgnoisis, are not on here as often as people with a cf diagnoisis.

Ask your center to repeat the sweat test. If its positive, or high boderline, ask to be referred to another center. If they dont, take things into your own hands, and cobtact a center, get your records, and get a second opinion.
 

jshet

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I so hope you get answers soon so you know how to proceed. I may have missed it somewhere, but what types of gi issues do you have? My sons gi decided (prior to disgnosis) to do a trial of pancreatic enzymes because my son just was not gaining weight, and falling further and further off of the growth chart without first doing the fecal elaste test on him. He had the typical gi complaints of someone who is pancreatic insufficent. He gained 2 lbs in 2 weeks. He ended up failing the test when the doc, did run it. then so begun our journey to disgnoising.
i just wondered if you are having pancreatic insufficency symptoms and your gi can do the test or do a trial of enzymes. Sorry if this is something you have already tried.
 
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Hi Jshnet. Well, I have been pancreatic insufficient. (for yrs) had failure to thrive as a child. Always trouble gaining weight, My Gi issues, well name them, I have been diagnosed. my family thought for yrs I had Chrons? My stomach issues have had me so debilitated for yrs and problems to function a half way normal life. (all this also from not a proper diagnose or treatment for many yrs. Well finally in 2010, at 80 lbs. malnusorption disorder, etc. I found a GI Dr out of this area. I was already on Enzymes RX as Malnusoption disorder. Failed the fecal test. So the GI Doc did a SOD test. (he decided I needed surgery) The gastro Drs here where just letting me hang. (last 10 yrs prior to this and wasting away) at this point I was on 5 Stomach meds!!! Someone somewhere here also wrote on my records anorexia!! Which followed me. As if I was doing this to myself. No Dr following a other DR. I was getting sicker and sicker. This is why I am having such a hard time, not getting a diagnose from A CF Center with the multitude of problems I already have. The GI Doc I found, I feel he saved my life. My bile ducs where a mess. Prior test showed, chronic inflammation, current inflammation, etc. The New GI Doctor did a ERCP?? Serious surgery. I had a 10% risk of getting pancritis, and sure enough before I left the surgery room I had it!! So now I have Chronic pancritis! Again where I live, and the enzymes I am on, not sure if it is a proper dose? Not sure of anything at this point. Not sure how or why things would be treated different from a CF Center with a specialist in the GI end?? I just have read when it comes to the pancreatic insuffienciecy on this site, many say make sure you see a GI CF Gastro. So this puts me at a loss. My GI doc called me back the other day. Ok, have not seen him now for 4 yrs, again because of insurance reasons, and even now it is worse. He told me to make a appointment to come in. I am sure since the Doctor does not handle the insurance end, might not even know, if I can get in or not because of the change in my insurance. Just a other problem. He said he was not surprised I had CF. But does not mean he is well versed on the CF problems with the GI?? Maybe he is. He mentioned surgery again. SO that scares me, with no diagnose of CF at this point, not being seen at a CF center and I wonder if it is something as simple as Medications, and more Enzyems? (not that anything is simple) But I sure wonder now, what kind of health would I be in if I have had the proper care? You know, as bad as my health is at this point, Surgery scares me, and this should all be being addressed at a CF Center, I would think!! Make's me wonder over all the yrs, the destruction of my stomach bile ducs, how this has affected my overall health and the condition I am in now?? Imagine being just left hanging from GI test, which require treatment. I had, had 4 colonoscopy in these 10 yrs , and told, well no infection and no cancer!! I could not even keep liquids down. I dropped from 102. 110 tops down to 80 lbs. All food, fluids, I could not keep down at all. The Colitis was bad also. Blood in the toilet. Fatigue so bad, SOB, all of it. In and out of the hospital. Just given fluids, low of vitamins, typical test done, Drs worried about me, and telling me to follow up with PCP. No one helped though. All this was in 2010 when I was diagnosed with Thyroid Hashimotos. (one Dr told me later, he was sure I was probably in a thyroid storm} I ended up with a pace maker. Many symptom's. I have IBS, IBD, Gastritis , Colitis, Spasmodic Colon.. Chronic pancritis. I just looked at that most recent Disc for a CT angio. (Chest pains) from the ER. 9-2014, you know the report on the disc states I have inflamed ducs, mentions the past surgery's and states it needs future evaluation. So again, this is not on the hard copy report at all!! I just find it unbelievable , they find something and do not inform me as the patient, leave half the things out they on the report itself, and no Doctor takes the time, to request these themselves, to see them. Well again, I guess I can say, the CF center what I went to, that Dr ordered the Disc of these Er trips. But again, he does not seem to be to concerned with any of my stomach issues related to the CF. He did offer to run the test for the GI issues, along with the mapping. (Only because my daughter made that clear at the appointment) No one is following through with any of my health conditions at this time. I took it upon myself last month to call my GI Doctor, to ask about the surgery I had done and let him know I probably have CF. My cystic Duc was plugged. He is not surprised as I told you. I am on the phone trying to take care of this stuff when I have the energy and cannot tell you how much it takes out of me. Need to go to bed now. Thanks for letting me vent!!
 
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How is your son doing now? Is he going to a CF center? How is his stomach. All I can say with my experience, and trying to get a diagnose later in life, you sure want to keep up on the GI issues. It can play such havoc on your health and well being. I have no doubt left untreated, can cause damage to everything else. Hope he is doing well.
 

jshet

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I am taking my son tomorrow for a portacath dye studt test. After his last infusions, (almost 2 weeks ago), i noticed swelling aroud his port that is not subsiding. The port is either broken, or he bled internally again (he has a bleeding disorder). The dye test will definetly tell us. if the port is broken, he will need it removed. If its bleeding, back to the hemotologist then.
we have an amazing team caring for my son at childrens hospital pittsburgh. He's seen at their cf clinic and he is followed by a cf gastro. His other 4 specialists he sees often are there also. Everyone of his doctors know each other including his peditrician who is not located at the hospital.
like you, my son has many other seperate issues besides cf. Unlike you, he is getting the best possible care though. That needs to change for you. I unfortunately do not know how you should go about this.
Go back, see the gi doc that wants to see you, and ask him to help you. Since you have not seen him in 4 years, share your new info. and ask for his help. If he doesnt accept your insurance, go anyways. As long as you pay alittle on the bill each month it will be ok.
hope things improve soon.
 
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Thanks again jshet. How old is your son? I will say a prayer for him. Thank goodness you have great care for him. Hope all goes well. A bleeding disorder also? Boy that is hard. (does he bleed easy?) I recently had clotting test done (thrombosis) I know I did not have all of them. I just talked my own Dr into doing, (requesting test my self at this point with all my problems) One test came back which is a Clotting factor, (mainly is a marker for cardiac problems) It is called Homocyyst(e)ine, Plasma. Significant Risk Factor, thrombosis. (also my PFT, The DLCO, which is low, also suggest, that I could have a recurrent Embolism Disease. Just more info, with I am not sure what to do with yet as not getting the care. But certainly something I have been trying to find out with the Heart problems, chest pains, and most recently seemed I was at a 75% probable PE! So at least I know this now. Can all be connected to my on going chest pains, and heart problems. The Nurse emailed me the results on this and stated the " The Dr says It is a little elevated and, I need Vit B6! ( did much reading on this, true, you are lacking 3 vitamins in the B group, but supplementing them , has not proven at all do help with the cardiac issues. Also reference to a other issue with the metabolic problem? It is a cardiac marker which need to be addressed, and something not taken lightly. Higher risk, of clots, etc, and also more important is if you are diabetic, the risk goes up much higher. More info, and not knowing what to do with it?? Also my results where 15.7. cut off was 15. anything over this is considered high. These are one of those test, they do not expect to be out of the limits. . Also what else I read, they say the limits are probably set much higher then should be. Also woman should be lower then men, and never over 10!! With all my test, everything is pointing to some kind of Clotting problem, or recurrent Embolism disease I have, causing my Cardiac issues. Boy, Wish I could just find one DR! You know I have paper work here, for the un diagnosed program. (I am hoping some how I can get there) the only problem , I need my Dr to fill it out! I am not sure, with the lack of care, and seems most are on a GOD EGO> how that will go. But the Not diagnosed program, told me I can submit all the paper work, of records. SO I am thinking of doing this myself, setting up a package, and then comforting the DR! I have nothing to loose. Let me know how you son is doing. Boy, yes I would tell you, from all my life, My stomach has really caused me problems. Had my gallbladder taken out at 29, I have a fatty liver also?? None makes sense to me, but now it does thinking of CF> If I would have only known back yrs ago. If and could of, does not matter now. Just trying to deal with what I have from this day. Prayers. Do you have CF? are you a carrier? I also read, to that carriers do not have a positive sweat. Wonder what this Dr thinks I have, with the Two positive sweat test? how can he just ignore it? if I did not push this, it would be a done deal at this point at the place I was going to. you hang in there. Max
 

jshet

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Ny son recently turned 18. He has autism also so developmentally he is much younger. He has a platlet function disorder which means in his case, he has enough platlets, they just dont stick together well making it difficult for him to clot. He has bled internally 4 other times. One being when the g tube was placed, he lost over 40% of his blood supply requiring 3 transfusions. He definetly keeps me on my toes, lol.
I do not have cf. I have a daughter also, and she is fine.
Keep me posted on how things are going. Take care, and hang in there.
 
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Thinking of you and your son. Hope the test went well today. Let me know how he is doing. Good to hear you do not have CF or your Daughter. Sounds like you have your hands full. Prayers are with you. I want to thank you also, for your support to me, means a lot. I am hanging in there. Hugs
 

jshet

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Glad your spirits seem up. His port is working so he must have bled again. Calling the doc tomorrow to see if he needs seen Take care, and keep us updated on your status.
 

mkpr13

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Madmax33,

I am sorry you are having so many problems with getting a diagnosis and getting the doctors to treat your health issues in a timely manner.

I am 47 years old and I have not been diagnosed with CF but I have chronic pancreatitis with no lung involvement. The doctors do not know what is causing it. I have had the genetic sequencing done and it was negative. I would like to get the sweat test done but now that the getenetic tests are negative, they don't want to test it because they say that it cannot be CF.

I found an article "Clin Biochem Rev. Nov 2005; 26 (4): 135-153" that indicates that there are possibly other factors besides CFTR dysfunction that can cause non-classic phenotypes and that furthers studies need to be done. If these studies were done in the last 10 years, we would have to find those doctors who accept that this occuring. I feel like it is a needle in a haystack.

The benefit I see to getting treated at a CF clinic is to get a team of doctors who evaluate the entire body and if there is something that is acting up, they would get you to the correct doctor. The problem I see is that most of the doctors are pulmologists and are very good at accepting you if there are lung issues. I am not real confident they know what to do with people who have GI issues only.

I would think that since you have two elevated sweat test that they would treat you as if you had CF and help you get the proper care.

Best wishes.
Melissa
 
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hi bless you for all you are doing to help yr. daughter. In 1954 when I was born my Mom was told I had CF as failure to thrive, and constantly sick with the same issues you are describing. Sweat test not sure if done at that time but at age of 8 done again I remember that one and it was border line, my Mom was then told not to come back to clinic as I now did not hv CF so I went untreated till my 20's when I took matters into my own hands and started seeing a CF doctor who repeated the sweat test still border line but then did further testing and was confirmed postive. Don't give up, it's a lot of work for sure but best you get to the bottom of it now. Good Luck Pat-/CF-60
 
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Sounds like you are somewhat in the same boat as me.

Hi. I am not a good one to give advise, as I am going through such a long timely struggle trying to make sense of this. Did you get a full genetic panel done? My Dr ran a test for a 102 mutations, and this is what really confused me(as he said I need at least one of those, (common to have CF!) not true. I am going to get the full mapping panel done now! taken awhile, and need to get down there. I think this Dr is set on the fact that I do not have CF though. So we will see. and Also if I only have one of the mutations show up, no chance of a Diagnose from him. I am also have the test done which affect the pancreas. Not in the mapping test. Also I would insist on the sweat test. (this is where I am lost) as mine was high. Two of them. From my understanding, this is a CF Diagnose, period. Would be very rare, not to be CF. On top of the other rare disease, and I have contacted those society's, and they say CF. Also Before they even started finding all these other mutations (and still finding more) If you had a high or positive sweat, that is the Golden standard. Many older people on here, have diagnoses' from the sweat test and symptoms'. Did you have them do the Blood test also, for the gene which affects the pancreas? you need that done also. I also have many of the other symptom's, including my lungs, (just have a good PVC) but have asthma, chronic sinus issues, osteoporosis at a young age. Severe allergies, name it seems I have it. I also have read many studies and with NOW diagnoses' older adults, many Drs are looking at this as a multi system organ disease. So yes Like you I was hoping, (if this is the Primary Disease I have,( CF), I might start getting some treatment and help with the multitude of problems I have. Like putting the puzzle together. you will also find, not many pulmonary Drs are versed on CF. Where I am setting now, basically getting no treatment other then inhalers, and my past trips to ER by ambulance with minimal help, and just antibiotics and more diagnoses'. It is very frustrating.
I had stomach surgery back in 2010, serious surgery, and this is when I ended up with the chronic pancritis. Now my Dr thinks I need more surgery. I am on enzymes'. So believe me, not knowing or having the treatment they have now for CF, this really leaves me in limbo, as I do not know if surgery is something that I need? or is medication would help? But I am not getting no help on the CF end. I can tell you though, I am dealing with many factors , as to where I live, Not good medical care, insurance issues, etc. But I feel like I could have died back in 2010, because of my stomach issues being so neglected and was just lucky to find the Dr I did out of this area. So I would not let that go. I am 59yrs old now and pretty debilitated with many problems. Hopefully someone else on here with more knowledge might reach out to you. I wish you the best of luck and hope you get some answers also. (L)



Madmax33,

I am sorry you are having so many problems with getting a diagnosis and getting the doctors to treat your health issues in a timely manner.

I am 47 years old and I have not been diagnosed with CF but I have chronic pancreatitis with no lung involvement. The doctors do not know what is causing it. I have had the genetic sequencing done and it was negative. I would like to get the sweat test done but now that the getenetic tests are negative, they don't want to test it because they say that it cannot be CF.

I found an article "Clin Biochem Rev. Nov 2005; 26 (4): 135-153" that indicates that there are possibly other factors besides CFTR dysfunction that can cause non-classic phenotypes and that furthers studies need to be done. If these studies were done in the last 10 years, we would have to find those doctors who accept that this occuring. I feel like it is a needle in a haystack.

The benefit I see to getting treated at a CF clinic is to get a team of doctors who evaluate the entire body and if there is something that is acting up, they would get you to the correct doctor. The problem I see is that most of the doctors are pulmologists and are very good at accepting you if there are lung issues. I am not real confident they know what to do with people who have GI issues only.

I would think that since you have two elevated sweat test that they would treat you as if you had CF and help you get the proper care.

Best wishes.
Melissa
 
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Hi Pat. thanks for the reply. I might say though, it is Me, not my daughter. I am 59. I have made many post on here, trying to find answers and very confused. I am not giving up, just pretty sick to perused much anymore. I have had two High Sweat test, and went to the close CF center, but he said unlikely CF? So if you had read any of my other post, I have explained from the beginning my journey in this CF Diagnose. I have seen many older Adults like your self, which got the genetic testing done because of symptom's, and low or neg sweat test. (That is the protocol) Sorry it took longer to get your diagnose. Have not read yet or have anyone respond to my post, Regarding the opposite (what I had of the two high positive test) and A DR saying they do not have it? That is the golden standard for CF. At least from all my research and asking Societies, it should be a diagnose for CF Period. I was wanting to see if any one else has every gone through this. Best wishes to you


hi bless you for all you are doing to help yr. daughter. In 1954 when I was born my Mom was told I had CF as failure to thrive, and constantly sick with the same issues you are describing. Sweat test not sure if done at that time but at age of 8 done again I remember that one and it was border line, my Mom was then told not to come back to clinic as I now did not hv CF so I went untreated till my 20's when I took matters into my own hands and started seeing a CF doctor who repeated the sweat test still border line but then did further testing and was confirmed postive. Don't give up, it's a lot of work for sure but best you get to the bottom of it now. Good Luck Pat-/CF-60
 
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Hi Jshet. Thinking of you and your son. How is he doing? Any better? I hope things are on the right track now, and nothing serious. In my prayers.

Glad your spirits seem up. His port is working so he must have bled again. Calling the doc tomorrow to see if he needs seen Take care, and keep us updated on your status.
 

jshet

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Hey madmax33. Things are ok. Still swelling, but it takes a while for blood to reabsorb. Not a whole lot we can do. The type of bleedng disorder he has, there is only one medication that can be used. Unfortunately, it does not work for him, so his only option is a blood transfusion if he looses too much blood, or if the bleedng is not clotting.
He has a great hemotologist, but treatments are limited. Atleast we will know what the issue is if he ever swells again.

been a rough couple years for him, but we have decided to take him back to Disney Workd this year. He loves it there, and loves toy story. To him the characters sre real. Its so magical for him. He is so excited, it gives him something to look forward too.

Please keed me updated with your continued quest for answers. Take care!
 

JustaCFmom

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Hi Madmax,
I actually had 2 sweat tests that came out high=positive & did not receive a CF diagnosis. I know that hypothyroidism can cause a high result. (I have that but it is under control through medication.) At the end of the day, I don't really have any ongoing symptoms or health problems. I had some issues of bronchitis a few times & got all nervous when my kids got diagnosed & we screened the entire family. The doctor said CF is highly unlikely & was surprised by the sweat test results. My PFT's are great & I don't have any sinus or digestive problems. I never did the full genetic screening because it is so expensive, so maybe there is some unusual mutation there. I guess I feel that if I do start to have CF-like health problems I can follow this up then.
Good luck & don't give up!

[I found this: "There are other conditions besides CF that can cause positive sweat tests. These include anorexia nervosa, Addison's disease, nephrogenic diabetes insipidus, and hypothyroidism."]
 
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Hi JustaCFmom. Well you are one of the first to tell me this. But like every CF Patient is different, I would defiantly think you have a mutation, with 3 CF Children. I hope you do not. You can go through the mapping program, (which is free) It seems if you want to know that might be a option, because of your sweat test and you having three children with it. It is on the CF society. (Boy you must be a very busy mom) I have researched further what you are talking about, the rare disease. ( First I would say with all my symptoms', and the high test, would you not think then the DR would want to eliminate the others?) But I have gone further in my research. It is unusual if not Un heard of to have the test at the positive which I had, and not be CF. Also , yes I have Hashimotos Thyroid, but my thyroid is under control, there was a slight change in meds, about 6 months ago, and totally normal, with the second high sweat? (My understanding, your thyroid would have to be in a thyroid storm for a high positive sweat test) they also do not use the sweat test for a test at all for thyroid problems? So go figure that one. I am curious What your results on the Two sweat test where if you do not mind sharing. And was your thyroid, under control at that time?? Also I have talked with the Addison's Disease foundation, and they say, it is only CF. Besides back in 2010, when I was in such bad shape, weigh loss and all the problems then, the Endco Dr ruled out Addison's. I have been sick since child hood, and with all the class symptoms, and seem to have all the CF signs they talk about with older adults also. I have a multitude of health problems at this point. Regardless of what other disease may pop up with me, still would not make sense all the CF signs and not CF? There must be a way to rule them out one by one. Or a other disease real close to the same symptom's as CF. That is one of the reasons a GOOD Dr, along with the sweat test based the diagnose on the clinical signs? (this did not happen for me at all) Seems this Dr first, Based on age, which he thought is impossible at my age. Second, totally looking at lung function, and that is it. Seems to be ignoring the fact, that I was as in ER with ammonia, pleurisy, partial collapsed lungs, plural effusion, and showing again mucus plugs, and a on going sinus infection now again for about the last 8 months. (I Just don't know what more a Dr would need based on what I have read with Older adults being diagnosed. Many have good lung functions on the FVC. Constant infections are something I live with, as I just don't want any antibiotic called in, when they do not work. No one wants to check any further and this is what I have been going through for yrs. I have had constant sinus issues and bronchitis, which no antibiotic touch's and cant get any Dr to culture and look for those nasty bugs, which are typical for CF!! You know I am not having care at all, just minimal, so I do not have continues records for these kind of test and dealing with my lungs. With all the other disease I have had, a Chronic Pain severe, and the heart issues, not much attention has been paid to the other problems in the last 20 yrs here. Also When CFers talk about a decline, Well, figure I am not getting any lung function test either when I am sick or in the ER!! Maybe if I had test ran more often, my lung functions might not be so great? Who knows. I only got this last one, because I asked the Heart Dr to run them. I have the low DLCO, which concerns me a lot , and no one seems to care of give me a answer on that one? I just have no doubt that I have it, and that I would have been diagnosed a lot earlier in life. I may never know, but from the studies and new mutations they are finding now, I will always believe I am one of these older adults, who has had CF all my life, and because of not the right treatment, it has played destruction on my whole body, organs, and overall well being. I think you are much younger then me , and just because of what I have gone through and the shape I am in now, I would recommend to any one not to wait for symptom's and have the testing to know for sure, so if symptom's do pop up, you will get the right treatment and be on top of it. Of course it is a personal choice and you are in a better situation yourself, dealing with CF and also having a CF center. How are your children doing? Do they all have the same mutations? Is that three children you have, and they all are positive? Hang in there mom, seems they are coming up with better treatments all the time, and hopefully close to a cure.

Hi Madmax,
I actually had 2 sweat tests that came out high=positive & did not receive a CF diagnosis. I know that hypothyroidism can cause a high result. (I have that but it is under control through medication.) At the end of the day, I don't really have any ongoing symptoms or health problems. I had some issues of bronchitis a few times & got all nervous when my kids got diagnosed & we screened the entire family. The doctor said CF is highly unlikely & was surprised by the sweat test results. My PFT's are great & I don't have any sinus or digestive problems. I never did the full genetic screening because it is so expensive, so maybe there is some unusual mutation there. I guess I feel that if I do start to have CF-like health problems I can follow this up then.
Good luck & don't give up!

[I found this: "There are other conditions besides CF that can cause positive sweat tests. These include anorexia nervosa, Addison's disease, nephrogenic diabetes insipidus, and hypothyroidism."]
 

mkpr13

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Madmaxx33,

I had the full genetic mapping for CFTR, PRSS1, CSTR, CAP1, CASR, SPINK1 which looks for mutations which can cause chronic pancreatitis. The article I referenced in earlier post talks about people who have mutations in CFTR but have low or intermediate sweat tests but they also indicate that there are people on the other side of spectrum that have high sweat test but have no mutations when they have genetic mapping done. This is why I wanted to have the sweat test but the CF center said "no" to doing the sweat test. Medscape says to be diagnosed with CF you need either positive sweat test OR positive genetic test. You do not need both. Somehow you just need to convince Dr at the CF clinic of this since you already have two positive sweat tests. Easier said than done I am sure :)

Best wishes.
Melissa
 
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