Luteal Phase Defect

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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>

If you're going to spend the money on clomid and stuff, ask for a script for bioidentical progesterone suppositories - they can't hurt and they might help sustain a pregnancy if you do indeed have a LPD (though it might just be a fluke this cycle - as someone already said, most women's LP tend to be the same amount of time each month and your sem to be normal).</end quote></div>

I agree with this. When I was doing my research on progesterone suppositories I found out that most fertility docs are putting ALL their fertility patients on progesterone after IUI and IVF no matter what their LP is.

Prometrium is a natural progesterone in pill form. It says in the package insert not to take it during pregnancy but it IS safe. A lot of doctors are prescribing it as a suppository because they have found that even though it may not raise your blood plasma levels of progesterone very much, it IS raising it in the endometrium. If you take it as a pill you can get some nasty side effects like nausea, mood swings, extreme tiredness. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had any after taking it for 5 days as a suppository.

You can also get a compounded natural progesterone suppository that is a lot cheaper than prometrium but it is a lot messier. Think the little waxy bullets that come in OTC yeast infection treatments.

Lastly, with regards to prometrium, 400 - 600 mg seems to be the most effective dose. I see A TON of posts online from people taking 100 - 200 mg but the studies I read suggested that a dose that low doesn't do much to the endometrial lining. My doc prescribed 600 mg at the advice of his nurse who used to work with the leading fertility doc here in town. I try to remember to take it 3 times a day (200 mg each time) but I think that taking 200 mg in the morning and 400 mg at night is just as fine.

Oh your other alternative is PIO - progesterone in oil which is a shot but I think its more expensive than prometrium plus you have to give yourself a shot. It is, however, the gold standard in progesterone treatments.

I really don't know what to say about your chart. If your other charts are accurate, you definately don't have a short LP! Maybe you're having implantation spotting. I know you didn't time intercourse very well but if you go to the preseed website there is an article by a fertility doc who said that sperm can live inside the tubes for quite a while - granted they're not in huge numbers but they're still present. Just saying... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>

If you're going to spend the money on clomid and stuff, ask for a script for bioidentical progesterone suppositories - they can't hurt and they might help sustain a pregnancy if you do indeed have a LPD (though it might just be a fluke this cycle - as someone already said, most women's LP tend to be the same amount of time each month and your sem to be normal).</end quote></div>

I agree with this. When I was doing my research on progesterone suppositories I found out that most fertility docs are putting ALL their fertility patients on progesterone after IUI and IVF no matter what their LP is.

Prometrium is a natural progesterone in pill form. It says in the package insert not to take it during pregnancy but it IS safe. A lot of doctors are prescribing it as a suppository because they have found that even though it may not raise your blood plasma levels of progesterone very much, it IS raising it in the endometrium. If you take it as a pill you can get some nasty side effects like nausea, mood swings, extreme tiredness. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had any after taking it for 5 days as a suppository.

You can also get a compounded natural progesterone suppository that is a lot cheaper than prometrium but it is a lot messier. Think the little waxy bullets that come in OTC yeast infection treatments.

Lastly, with regards to prometrium, 400 - 600 mg seems to be the most effective dose. I see A TON of posts online from people taking 100 - 200 mg but the studies I read suggested that a dose that low doesn't do much to the endometrial lining. My doc prescribed 600 mg at the advice of his nurse who used to work with the leading fertility doc here in town. I try to remember to take it 3 times a day (200 mg each time) but I think that taking 200 mg in the morning and 400 mg at night is just as fine.

Oh your other alternative is PIO - progesterone in oil which is a shot but I think its more expensive than prometrium plus you have to give yourself a shot. It is, however, the gold standard in progesterone treatments.

I really don't know what to say about your chart. If your other charts are accurate, you definately don't have a short LP! Maybe you're having implantation spotting. I know you didn't time intercourse very well but if you go to the preseed website there is an article by a fertility doc who said that sperm can live inside the tubes for quite a while - granted they're not in huge numbers but they're still present. Just saying... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>

If you're going to spend the money on clomid and stuff, ask for a script for bioidentical progesterone suppositories - they can't hurt and they might help sustain a pregnancy if you do indeed have a LPD (though it might just be a fluke this cycle - as someone already said, most women's LP tend to be the same amount of time each month and your sem to be normal).</end quote></div>

I agree with this. When I was doing my research on progesterone suppositories I found out that most fertility docs are putting ALL their fertility patients on progesterone after IUI and IVF no matter what their LP is.

Prometrium is a natural progesterone in pill form. It says in the package insert not to take it during pregnancy but it IS safe. A lot of doctors are prescribing it as a suppository because they have found that even though it may not raise your blood plasma levels of progesterone very much, it IS raising it in the endometrium. If you take it as a pill you can get some nasty side effects like nausea, mood swings, extreme tiredness. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had any after taking it for 5 days as a suppository.

You can also get a compounded natural progesterone suppository that is a lot cheaper than prometrium but it is a lot messier. Think the little waxy bullets that come in OTC yeast infection treatments.

Lastly, with regards to prometrium, 400 - 600 mg seems to be the most effective dose. I see A TON of posts online from people taking 100 - 200 mg but the studies I read suggested that a dose that low doesn't do much to the endometrial lining. My doc prescribed 600 mg at the advice of his nurse who used to work with the leading fertility doc here in town. I try to remember to take it 3 times a day (200 mg each time) but I think that taking 200 mg in the morning and 400 mg at night is just as fine.

Oh your other alternative is PIO - progesterone in oil which is a shot but I think its more expensive than prometrium plus you have to give yourself a shot. It is, however, the gold standard in progesterone treatments.

I really don't know what to say about your chart. If your other charts are accurate, you definately don't have a short LP! Maybe you're having implantation spotting. I know you didn't time intercourse very well but if you go to the preseed website there is an article by a fertility doc who said that sperm can live inside the tubes for quite a while - granted they're not in huge numbers but they're still present. Just saying... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>

If you're going to spend the money on clomid and stuff, ask for a script for bioidentical progesterone suppositories - they can't hurt and they might help sustain a pregnancy if you do indeed have a LPD (though it might just be a fluke this cycle - as someone already said, most women's LP tend to be the same amount of time each month and your sem to be normal).</end quote>

I agree with this. When I was doing my research on progesterone suppositories I found out that most fertility docs are putting ALL their fertility patients on progesterone after IUI and IVF no matter what their LP is.

Prometrium is a natural progesterone in pill form. It says in the package insert not to take it during pregnancy but it IS safe. A lot of doctors are prescribing it as a suppository because they have found that even though it may not raise your blood plasma levels of progesterone very much, it IS raising it in the endometrium. If you take it as a pill you can get some nasty side effects like nausea, mood swings, extreme tiredness. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had any after taking it for 5 days as a suppository.

You can also get a compounded natural progesterone suppository that is a lot cheaper than prometrium but it is a lot messier. Think the little waxy bullets that come in OTC yeast infection treatments.

Lastly, with regards to prometrium, 400 - 600 mg seems to be the most effective dose. I see A TON of posts online from people taking 100 - 200 mg but the studies I read suggested that a dose that low doesn't do much to the endometrial lining. My doc prescribed 600 mg at the advice of his nurse who used to work with the leading fertility doc here in town. I try to remember to take it 3 times a day (200 mg each time) but I think that taking 200 mg in the morning and 400 mg at night is just as fine.

Oh your other alternative is PIO - progesterone in oil which is a shot but I think its more expensive than prometrium plus you have to give yourself a shot. It is, however, the gold standard in progesterone treatments.

I really don't know what to say about your chart. If your other charts are accurate, you definately don't have a short LP! Maybe you're having implantation spotting. I know you didn't time intercourse very well but if you go to the preseed website there is an article by a fertility doc who said that sperm can live inside the tubes for quite a while - granted they're not in huge numbers but they're still present. Just saying... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 
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Keepercjr

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>wanderlost</b></i>

If you're going to spend the money on clomid and stuff, ask for a script for bioidentical progesterone suppositories - they can't hurt and they might help sustain a pregnancy if you do indeed have a LPD (though it might just be a fluke this cycle - as someone already said, most women's LP tend to be the same amount of time each month and your sem to be normal).</end quote>

I agree with this. When I was doing my research on progesterone suppositories I found out that most fertility docs are putting ALL their fertility patients on progesterone after IUI and IVF no matter what their LP is.

Prometrium is a natural progesterone in pill form. It says in the package insert not to take it during pregnancy but it IS safe. A lot of doctors are prescribing it as a suppository because they have found that even though it may not raise your blood plasma levels of progesterone very much, it IS raising it in the endometrium. If you take it as a pill you can get some nasty side effects like nausea, mood swings, extreme tiredness. So far, knock on wood, I haven't had any after taking it for 5 days as a suppository.

You can also get a compounded natural progesterone suppository that is a lot cheaper than prometrium but it is a lot messier. Think the little waxy bullets that come in OTC yeast infection treatments.

Lastly, with regards to prometrium, 400 - 600 mg seems to be the most effective dose. I see A TON of posts online from people taking 100 - 200 mg but the studies I read suggested that a dose that low doesn't do much to the endometrial lining. My doc prescribed 600 mg at the advice of his nurse who used to work with the leading fertility doc here in town. I try to remember to take it 3 times a day (200 mg each time) but I think that taking 200 mg in the morning and 400 mg at night is just as fine.

Oh your other alternative is PIO - progesterone in oil which is a shot but I think its more expensive than prometrium plus you have to give yourself a shot. It is, however, the gold standard in progesterone treatments.

I really don't know what to say about your chart. If your other charts are accurate, you definately don't have a short LP! Maybe you're having implantation spotting. I know you didn't time intercourse very well but if you go to the preseed website there is an article by a fertility doc who said that sperm can live inside the tubes for quite a while - granted they're not in huge numbers but they're still present. Just saying... <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
 

AnD

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Hmmm, I don't want to get your hopes up, but that occurred to me too. I had cramping starting a few days before I was supposed to get my period when I was pregnant (no spotting then, but I have heard it is common). Just make sure they give you a pregancy blood test first thing at the doctor's <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> . And I was on the progesterone suppositories for my IUI's too, because low progresterone was one of my infertility problems.
 

AnD

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Hmmm, I don't want to get your hopes up, but that occurred to me too. I had cramping starting a few days before I was supposed to get my period when I was pregnant (no spotting then, but I have heard it is common). Just make sure they give you a pregancy blood test first thing at the doctor's <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> . And I was on the progesterone suppositories for my IUI's too, because low progresterone was one of my infertility problems.
 

AnD

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Hmmm, I don't want to get your hopes up, but that occurred to me too. I had cramping starting a few days before I was supposed to get my period when I was pregnant (no spotting then, but I have heard it is common). Just make sure they give you a pregancy blood test first thing at the doctor's <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> . And I was on the progesterone suppositories for my IUI's too, because low progresterone was one of my infertility problems.
 

AnD

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Hmmm, I don't want to get your hopes up, but that occurred to me too. I had cramping starting a few days before I was supposed to get my period when I was pregnant (no spotting then, but I have heard it is common). Just make sure they give you a pregancy blood test first thing at the doctor's <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> . And I was on the progesterone suppositories for my IUI's too, because low progresterone was one of my infertility problems.
 

AnD

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Hmmm, I don't want to get your hopes up, but that occurred to me too. I had cramping starting a few days before I was supposed to get my period when I was pregnant (no spotting then, but I have heard it is common). Just make sure they give you a pregancy blood test first thing at the doctor's <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0"> . And I was on the progesterone suppositories for my IUI's too, because low progresterone was one of my infertility problems.
 

hbollotte

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this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.
 

hbollotte

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this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.
 

hbollotte

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this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.
 

hbollotte

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this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.
 

hbollotte

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this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.
 

wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hbollotte</b></i>

this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.</end quote></div>

I wouldn't see why it would be. I took the progesterone because i asked for it - I don't really think I have a hormonal problem - but because we did IUI and because I had had a previous miscarriage and because the docs told me the suppositories can't hurt, I asked for a script.

As an aside, the suppositories did cause me to spot, which was quite unnerving after a miscarriage, but I was told that isn't uncommon to happen with them.
 

wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hbollotte</b></i>

this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.</end quote></div>

I wouldn't see why it would be. I took the progesterone because i asked for it - I don't really think I have a hormonal problem - but because we did IUI and because I had had a previous miscarriage and because the docs told me the suppositories can't hurt, I asked for a script.

As an aside, the suppositories did cause me to spot, which was quite unnerving after a miscarriage, but I was told that isn't uncommon to happen with them.
 

wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hbollotte</b></i>

this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.</end quote></div>

I wouldn't see why it would be. I took the progesterone because i asked for it - I don't really think I have a hormonal problem - but because we did IUI and because I had had a previous miscarriage and because the docs told me the suppositories can't hurt, I asked for a script.

As an aside, the suppositories did cause me to spot, which was quite unnerving after a miscarriage, but I was told that isn't uncommon to happen with them.
 

wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hbollotte</b></i>

this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.</end quote>

I wouldn't see why it would be. I took the progesterone because i asked for it - I don't really think I have a hormonal problem - but because we did IUI and because I had had a previous miscarriage and because the docs told me the suppositories can't hurt, I asked for a script.

As an aside, the suppositories did cause me to spot, which was quite unnerving after a miscarriage, but I was told that isn't uncommon to happen with them.
 

wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>hbollotte</b></i>

this really doesn't apply that much, but is low progesterone common in CF patients? my doctor put me on progesterone in the first couple months of my pregnancy.</end quote>

I wouldn't see why it would be. I took the progesterone because i asked for it - I don't really think I have a hormonal problem - but because we did IUI and because I had had a previous miscarriage and because the docs told me the suppositories can't hurt, I asked for a script.

As an aside, the suppositories did cause me to spot, which was quite unnerving after a miscarriage, but I was told that isn't uncommon to happen with them.
 
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