Maybe our breastmilk isn't so normal afterall?

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

Okay I seriously need to stop looking for issues with this kid - when I look for something and get to the bottom of it we make a "discovery" ... I guess some might say it's being a good mom swah!</end quote></div>


You are a WONDERFUL mother Lauren. You are dedicated and very aware.

YES-you need to listen to yourself in the above quote. Isaac is fine. Its normal that we are looking for everything-Vienna coughs and I worry she has whooping cough. She gets a patch on her cheek and I worry she has scabies. lol.

Its not that its merely "not uncommon" for babies to have bow legs as you said above. Its uncommon for them NOT to have bowlegs. Vienna is very bowlegged. Shes even bow armed! (if thats possible!) And her wrists are fatter than her hands. And as far as Isaac's head-he probably has some plagiocephaly. Vienna has some, I think most babies have a little. And alot of babies have huge heads. Their heads are supposed to be proportionately larger than their bodies. I looked up Rickets and its very rare also. It also seems to run in families too.

I'm not trying to disregard or dismiss your worries, just trying to be realistic and comforting. Its normal to worry. But keep it in check. I know, I'm a hypocrite.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

Okay I seriously need to stop looking for issues with this kid - when I look for something and get to the bottom of it we make a "discovery" ... I guess some might say it's being a good mom swah!</end quote></div>


You are a WONDERFUL mother Lauren. You are dedicated and very aware.

YES-you need to listen to yourself in the above quote. Isaac is fine. Its normal that we are looking for everything-Vienna coughs and I worry she has whooping cough. She gets a patch on her cheek and I worry she has scabies. lol.

Its not that its merely "not uncommon" for babies to have bow legs as you said above. Its uncommon for them NOT to have bowlegs. Vienna is very bowlegged. Shes even bow armed! (if thats possible!) And her wrists are fatter than her hands. And as far as Isaac's head-he probably has some plagiocephaly. Vienna has some, I think most babies have a little. And alot of babies have huge heads. Their heads are supposed to be proportionately larger than their bodies. I looked up Rickets and its very rare also. It also seems to run in families too.

I'm not trying to disregard or dismiss your worries, just trying to be realistic and comforting. Its normal to worry. But keep it in check. I know, I'm a hypocrite.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

Okay I seriously need to stop looking for issues with this kid - when I look for something and get to the bottom of it we make a "discovery" ... I guess some might say it's being a good mom swah!</end quote></div>


You are a WONDERFUL mother Lauren. You are dedicated and very aware.

YES-you need to listen to yourself in the above quote. Isaac is fine. Its normal that we are looking for everything-Vienna coughs and I worry she has whooping cough. She gets a patch on her cheek and I worry she has scabies. lol.

Its not that its merely "not uncommon" for babies to have bow legs as you said above. Its uncommon for them NOT to have bowlegs. Vienna is very bowlegged. Shes even bow armed! (if thats possible!) And her wrists are fatter than her hands. And as far as Isaac's head-he probably has some plagiocephaly. Vienna has some, I think most babies have a little. And alot of babies have huge heads. Their heads are supposed to be proportionately larger than their bodies. I looked up Rickets and its very rare also. It also seems to run in families too.

I'm not trying to disregard or dismiss your worries, just trying to be realistic and comforting. Its normal to worry. But keep it in check. I know, I'm a hypocrite.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

Okay I seriously need to stop looking for issues with this kid - when I look for something and get to the bottom of it we make a "discovery" ... I guess some might say it's being a good mom swah!</end quote>


You are a WONDERFUL mother Lauren. You are dedicated and very aware.

YES-you need to listen to yourself in the above quote. Isaac is fine. Its normal that we are looking for everything-Vienna coughs and I worry she has whooping cough. She gets a patch on her cheek and I worry she has scabies. lol.

Its not that its merely "not uncommon" for babies to have bow legs as you said above. Its uncommon for them NOT to have bowlegs. Vienna is very bowlegged. Shes even bow armed! (if thats possible!) And her wrists are fatter than her hands. And as far as Isaac's head-he probably has some plagiocephaly. Vienna has some, I think most babies have a little. And alot of babies have huge heads. Their heads are supposed to be proportionately larger than their bodies. I looked up Rickets and its very rare also. It also seems to run in families too.

I'm not trying to disregard or dismiss your worries, just trying to be realistic and comforting. Its normal to worry. But keep it in check. I know, I'm a hypocrite.
 

Scarlett81

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>LouLou</b></i>

Okay I seriously need to stop looking for issues with this kid - when I look for something and get to the bottom of it we make a "discovery" ... I guess some might say it's being a good mom swah!</end quote>


You are a WONDERFUL mother Lauren. You are dedicated and very aware.

YES-you need to listen to yourself in the above quote. Isaac is fine. Its normal that we are looking for everything-Vienna coughs and I worry she has whooping cough. She gets a patch on her cheek and I worry she has scabies. lol.

Its not that its merely "not uncommon" for babies to have bow legs as you said above. Its uncommon for them NOT to have bowlegs. Vienna is very bowlegged. Shes even bow armed! (if thats possible!) And her wrists are fatter than her hands. And as far as Isaac's head-he probably has some plagiocephaly. Vienna has some, I think most babies have a little. And alot of babies have huge heads. Their heads are supposed to be proportionately larger than their bodies. I looked up Rickets and its very rare also. It also seems to run in families too.

I'm not trying to disregard or dismiss your worries, just trying to be realistic and comforting. Its normal to worry. But keep it in check. I know, I'm a hypocrite.
 

LouLou

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Isaac had a great pediatrician appt. today. Easy for me to say I didn't have to have any immunizations LOL. Poor kiddo. Anyone else can't stand to go to that germ ridden place? I use a sanitizing wipe between my hand and all doors, etc. I considered even wearing a mask but couldn't find anything but a respirator and that seemed like overkill. I refuse to sit in the waiting room - we wait out in the hall.

Anyway back to the topic of this thread.

We went to the pediatrician today. Isaac is 27 1/4" tall and weighs 17 lbs. 9oz. The pediatrician dismissed the Rickets signs as all normal baby stuff. I'm content with that because even if it were, I'm doing what I would need to be doing to treat Rickets (as far as I know) by giving him calciferol (Vitamin D). I just feel a little ignorant for not having followed the advice of giving Vit. D in the first place. Since the pediatrician has brought up Trivisol since the time he was 1 week old - not because of my cf or his cf but because I was breastfeeding exclusively and they say they are seeing a rise nationally in breastfeeding babe's having Rickets and she said not just black people either. When I told the pediatrician of his low level she wasn't a bit surprised which would lead me to deduce that it is not necessarily cf related (mine or his) but in their eyes expected with breastfeeding. I definitely think our milk is better than formula but in hindsight I wish I'd supplemented Vit D since 8 weeks (before that they get what they need from reserves they have from birth from mom).

The reason I shared this and started this post is because I know some of us are vitamin definicient and although I have read how women in developing nations who are likely vitamin and nutritional deprived have normal milk, I didn't want to hold back any information that might help even one of you. I never meant to give anyone the idea that I think formula is superior or that our milk is deficient. If I had that idea even somewhere in my head I wouldn't have an 18 lb. baby exclusively breastfed! I guess what I'm saying is if pediatricians are recommending Vit D to all exclusive bf'ers then we in particular with our known vitamin problems should keep an open mind about considering this for our LO's. For us with everything we weigh the risk/benefit ratio and calciferol is the answer in this case.
 

LouLou

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Isaac had a great pediatrician appt. today. Easy for me to say I didn't have to have any immunizations LOL. Poor kiddo. Anyone else can't stand to go to that germ ridden place? I use a sanitizing wipe between my hand and all doors, etc. I considered even wearing a mask but couldn't find anything but a respirator and that seemed like overkill. I refuse to sit in the waiting room - we wait out in the hall.

Anyway back to the topic of this thread.

We went to the pediatrician today. Isaac is 27 1/4" tall and weighs 17 lbs. 9oz. The pediatrician dismissed the Rickets signs as all normal baby stuff. I'm content with that because even if it were, I'm doing what I would need to be doing to treat Rickets (as far as I know) by giving him calciferol (Vitamin D). I just feel a little ignorant for not having followed the advice of giving Vit. D in the first place. Since the pediatrician has brought up Trivisol since the time he was 1 week old - not because of my cf or his cf but because I was breastfeeding exclusively and they say they are seeing a rise nationally in breastfeeding babe's having Rickets and she said not just black people either. When I told the pediatrician of his low level she wasn't a bit surprised which would lead me to deduce that it is not necessarily cf related (mine or his) but in their eyes expected with breastfeeding. I definitely think our milk is better than formula but in hindsight I wish I'd supplemented Vit D since 8 weeks (before that they get what they need from reserves they have from birth from mom).

The reason I shared this and started this post is because I know some of us are vitamin definicient and although I have read how women in developing nations who are likely vitamin and nutritional deprived have normal milk, I didn't want to hold back any information that might help even one of you. I never meant to give anyone the idea that I think formula is superior or that our milk is deficient. If I had that idea even somewhere in my head I wouldn't have an 18 lb. baby exclusively breastfed! I guess what I'm saying is if pediatricians are recommending Vit D to all exclusive bf'ers then we in particular with our known vitamin problems should keep an open mind about considering this for our LO's. For us with everything we weigh the risk/benefit ratio and calciferol is the answer in this case.
 

LouLou

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Isaac had a great pediatrician appt. today. Easy for me to say I didn't have to have any immunizations LOL. Poor kiddo. Anyone else can't stand to go to that germ ridden place? I use a sanitizing wipe between my hand and all doors, etc. I considered even wearing a mask but couldn't find anything but a respirator and that seemed like overkill. I refuse to sit in the waiting room - we wait out in the hall.

Anyway back to the topic of this thread.

We went to the pediatrician today. Isaac is 27 1/4" tall and weighs 17 lbs. 9oz. The pediatrician dismissed the Rickets signs as all normal baby stuff. I'm content with that because even if it were, I'm doing what I would need to be doing to treat Rickets (as far as I know) by giving him calciferol (Vitamin D). I just feel a little ignorant for not having followed the advice of giving Vit. D in the first place. Since the pediatrician has brought up Trivisol since the time he was 1 week old - not because of my cf or his cf but because I was breastfeeding exclusively and they say they are seeing a rise nationally in breastfeeding babe's having Rickets and she said not just black people either. When I told the pediatrician of his low level she wasn't a bit surprised which would lead me to deduce that it is not necessarily cf related (mine or his) but in their eyes expected with breastfeeding. I definitely think our milk is better than formula but in hindsight I wish I'd supplemented Vit D since 8 weeks (before that they get what they need from reserves they have from birth from mom).

The reason I shared this and started this post is because I know some of us are vitamin definicient and although I have read how women in developing nations who are likely vitamin and nutritional deprived have normal milk, I didn't want to hold back any information that might help even one of you. I never meant to give anyone the idea that I think formula is superior or that our milk is deficient. If I had that idea even somewhere in my head I wouldn't have an 18 lb. baby exclusively breastfed! I guess what I'm saying is if pediatricians are recommending Vit D to all exclusive bf'ers then we in particular with our known vitamin problems should keep an open mind about considering this for our LO's. For us with everything we weigh the risk/benefit ratio and calciferol is the answer in this case.
 

LouLou

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Isaac had a great pediatrician appt. today. Easy for me to say I didn't have to have any immunizations LOL. Poor kiddo. Anyone else can't stand to go to that germ ridden place? I use a sanitizing wipe between my hand and all doors, etc. I considered even wearing a mask but couldn't find anything but a respirator and that seemed like overkill. I refuse to sit in the waiting room - we wait out in the hall.

Anyway back to the topic of this thread.

We went to the pediatrician today. Isaac is 27 1/4" tall and weighs 17 lbs. 9oz. The pediatrician dismissed the Rickets signs as all normal baby stuff. I'm content with that because even if it were, I'm doing what I would need to be doing to treat Rickets (as far as I know) by giving him calciferol (Vitamin D). I just feel a little ignorant for not having followed the advice of giving Vit. D in the first place. Since the pediatrician has brought up Trivisol since the time he was 1 week old - not because of my cf or his cf but because I was breastfeeding exclusively and they say they are seeing a rise nationally in breastfeeding babe's having Rickets and she said not just black people either. When I told the pediatrician of his low level she wasn't a bit surprised which would lead me to deduce that it is not necessarily cf related (mine or his) but in their eyes expected with breastfeeding. I definitely think our milk is better than formula but in hindsight I wish I'd supplemented Vit D since 8 weeks (before that they get what they need from reserves they have from birth from mom).

The reason I shared this and started this post is because I know some of us are vitamin definicient and although I have read how women in developing nations who are likely vitamin and nutritional deprived have normal milk, I didn't want to hold back any information that might help even one of you. I never meant to give anyone the idea that I think formula is superior or that our milk is deficient. If I had that idea even somewhere in my head I wouldn't have an 18 lb. baby exclusively breastfed! I guess what I'm saying is if pediatricians are recommending Vit D to all exclusive bf'ers then we in particular with our known vitamin problems should keep an open mind about considering this for our LO's. For us with everything we weigh the risk/benefit ratio and calciferol is the answer in this case.
 

LouLou

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Isaac had a great pediatrician appt. today. Easy for me to say I didn't have to have any immunizations LOL. Poor kiddo. Anyone else can't stand to go to that germ ridden place? I use a sanitizing wipe between my hand and all doors, etc. I considered even wearing a mask but couldn't find anything but a respirator and that seemed like overkill. I refuse to sit in the waiting room - we wait out in the hall.

Anyway back to the topic of this thread.

We went to the pediatrician today. Isaac is 27 1/4" tall and weighs 17 lbs. 9oz. The pediatrician dismissed the Rickets signs as all normal baby stuff. I'm content with that because even if it were, I'm doing what I would need to be doing to treat Rickets (as far as I know) by giving him calciferol (Vitamin D). I just feel a little ignorant for not having followed the advice of giving Vit. D in the first place. Since the pediatrician has brought up Trivisol since the time he was 1 week old - not because of my cf or his cf but because I was breastfeeding exclusively and they say they are seeing a rise nationally in breastfeeding babe's having Rickets and she said not just black people either. When I told the pediatrician of his low level she wasn't a bit surprised which would lead me to deduce that it is not necessarily cf related (mine or his) but in their eyes expected with breastfeeding. I definitely think our milk is better than formula but in hindsight I wish I'd supplemented Vit D since 8 weeks (before that they get what they need from reserves they have from birth from mom).

The reason I shared this and started this post is because I know some of us are vitamin definicient and although I have read how women in developing nations who are likely vitamin and nutritional deprived have normal milk, I didn't want to hold back any information that might help even one of you. I never meant to give anyone the idea that I think formula is superior or that our milk is deficient. If I had that idea even somewhere in my head I wouldn't have an 18 lb. baby exclusively breastfed! I guess what I'm saying is if pediatricians are recommending Vit D to all exclusive bf'ers then we in particular with our known vitamin problems should keep an open mind about considering this for our LO's. For us with everything we weigh the risk/benefit ratio and calciferol is the answer in this case.
 
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hopesiris

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Lauren,

So does this mean that in addition to my own 1500 mg/day calcium plus vit D supplementing, I need to give Amelia vitamin D drops?

DH's latest worry is that Amelia isn't making enough eye contact with him. I have Aspergers, very mild autism, and my nephew has regressive autism so he is worried she will be autistic. Her pediatrician says she is doing everything she is supposed to but DH worries anyway. We also asked about the bow legs and big head-we joke that her head is big to hold her big brain.

Bonnie
 
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hopesiris

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Lauren,

So does this mean that in addition to my own 1500 mg/day calcium plus vit D supplementing, I need to give Amelia vitamin D drops?

DH's latest worry is that Amelia isn't making enough eye contact with him. I have Aspergers, very mild autism, and my nephew has regressive autism so he is worried she will be autistic. Her pediatrician says she is doing everything she is supposed to but DH worries anyway. We also asked about the bow legs and big head-we joke that her head is big to hold her big brain.

Bonnie
 
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hopesiris

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Lauren,

So does this mean that in addition to my own 1500 mg/day calcium plus vit D supplementing, I need to give Amelia vitamin D drops?

DH's latest worry is that Amelia isn't making enough eye contact with him. I have Aspergers, very mild autism, and my nephew has regressive autism so he is worried she will be autistic. Her pediatrician says she is doing everything she is supposed to but DH worries anyway. We also asked about the bow legs and big head-we joke that her head is big to hold her big brain.

Bonnie
 
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hopesiris

Guest
Lauren,

So does this mean that in addition to my own 1500 mg/day calcium plus vit D supplementing, I need to give Amelia vitamin D drops?

DH's latest worry is that Amelia isn't making enough eye contact with him. I have Aspergers, very mild autism, and my nephew has regressive autism so he is worried she will be autistic. Her pediatrician says she is doing everything she is supposed to but DH worries anyway. We also asked about the bow legs and big head-we joke that her head is big to hold her big brain.

Bonnie
 
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hopesiris

Guest
Lauren,

So does this mean that in addition to my own 1500 mg/day calcium plus vit D supplementing, I need to give Amelia vitamin D drops?

DH's latest worry is that Amelia isn't making enough eye contact with him. I have Aspergers, very mild autism, and my nephew has regressive autism so he is worried she will be autistic. Her pediatrician says she is doing everything she is supposed to but DH worries anyway. We also asked about the bow legs and big head-we joke that her head is big to hold her big brain.

Bonnie
 

mom2lillian

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Bonnie-

I am sure DH is just being a protective father, my DH worries about weird things too and before we had her gene sequenced each cough he was worried, sinc eyou cant rule out the things he is worried about it has to be harder. Have you considered delaying her immunizations (specifically the 12 & 18mo ones?) I am all for immunization but there are alternate schedules by CDC for delayed immunizations that might let him know you are putting his concern in the forefront and allow him a sigh of relief?

--well I guess I got a bit off topic there eh?

Anyway yes there are vitamin D drops you can get for the infants as to whether or not you should be giving them check iwth yoru ped as they all differ so much, especially based on where you live and most peds recommend a multi instead of just D sicne BM also tends to be low in iron and their stores can be used up by 6mo (I feed Lillian spinach regularly and eat it myself to alleviate this worry).
 

mom2lillian

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Bonnie-

I am sure DH is just being a protective father, my DH worries about weird things too and before we had her gene sequenced each cough he was worried, sinc eyou cant rule out the things he is worried about it has to be harder. Have you considered delaying her immunizations (specifically the 12 & 18mo ones?) I am all for immunization but there are alternate schedules by CDC for delayed immunizations that might let him know you are putting his concern in the forefront and allow him a sigh of relief?

--well I guess I got a bit off topic there eh?

Anyway yes there are vitamin D drops you can get for the infants as to whether or not you should be giving them check iwth yoru ped as they all differ so much, especially based on where you live and most peds recommend a multi instead of just D sicne BM also tends to be low in iron and their stores can be used up by 6mo (I feed Lillian spinach regularly and eat it myself to alleviate this worry).
 

mom2lillian

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Bonnie-

I am sure DH is just being a protective father, my DH worries about weird things too and before we had her gene sequenced each cough he was worried, sinc eyou cant rule out the things he is worried about it has to be harder. Have you considered delaying her immunizations (specifically the 12 & 18mo ones?) I am all for immunization but there are alternate schedules by CDC for delayed immunizations that might let him know you are putting his concern in the forefront and allow him a sigh of relief?

--well I guess I got a bit off topic there eh?

Anyway yes there are vitamin D drops you can get for the infants as to whether or not you should be giving them check iwth yoru ped as they all differ so much, especially based on where you live and most peds recommend a multi instead of just D sicne BM also tends to be low in iron and their stores can be used up by 6mo (I feed Lillian spinach regularly and eat it myself to alleviate this worry).
 

mom2lillian

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Bonnie-

I am sure DH is just being a protective father, my DH worries about weird things too and before we had her gene sequenced each cough he was worried, sinc eyou cant rule out the things he is worried about it has to be harder. Have you considered delaying her immunizations (specifically the 12 & 18mo ones?) I am all for immunization but there are alternate schedules by CDC for delayed immunizations that might let him know you are putting his concern in the forefront and allow him a sigh of relief?

--well I guess I got a bit off topic there eh?

Anyway yes there are vitamin D drops you can get for the infants as to whether or not you should be giving them check iwth yoru ped as they all differ so much, especially based on where you live and most peds recommend a multi instead of just D sicne BM also tends to be low in iron and their stores can be used up by 6mo (I feed Lillian spinach regularly and eat it myself to alleviate this worry).
 

mom2lillian

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Bonnie-

I am sure DH is just being a protective father, my DH worries about weird things too and before we had her gene sequenced each cough he was worried, sinc eyou cant rule out the things he is worried about it has to be harder. Have you considered delaying her immunizations (specifically the 12 & 18mo ones?) I am all for immunization but there are alternate schedules by CDC for delayed immunizations that might let him know you are putting his concern in the forefront and allow him a sigh of relief?

--well I guess I got a bit off topic there eh?

Anyway yes there are vitamin D drops you can get for the infants as to whether or not you should be giving them check iwth yoru ped as they all differ so much, especially based on where you live and most peds recommend a multi instead of just D sicne BM also tends to be low in iron and their stores can be used up by 6mo (I feed Lillian spinach regularly and eat it myself to alleviate this worry).
 
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