Yea finally science prevails over politically-driven zealots. No longer can the likes of Pat Robertson, or even the Pope himself, hold science in a chokehold. Haha, I bet if there is a cure or a better treatment found for certain diseases through this research, those that castigated it will be the first ones trying to benefit from it. Hypocrites. That's why, like I have been saying, those that cry about it should sign a paper stating they would never benefit from it at all.
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Yea finally science prevails over politically-driven zealots. No longer can the likes of Pat Robertson, or even the Pope himself, hold science in a chokehold. Haha, I bet if there is a cure or a better treatment found for certain diseases through this research, those that castigated it will be the first ones trying to benefit from it. Hypocrites. That's why, like I have been saying, those that cry about it should sign a paper stating they would never benefit from it at all.
Yea finally science prevails over politically-driven zealots. No longer can the likes of Pat Robertson, or even the Pope himself, hold science in a chokehold. Haha, I bet if there is a cure or a better treatment found for certain diseases through this research, those that castigated it will be the first ones trying to benefit from it. Hypocrites. That's why, like I have been saying, those that cry about it should sign a paper stating they would never benefit from it at all.
Yea finally science prevails over politically-driven zealots. No longer can the likes of Pat Robertson, or even the Pope himself, hold science in a chokehold. Haha, I bet if there is a cure or a better treatment found for certain diseases through this research, those that castigated it will be the first ones trying to benefit from it. Hypocrites. That's why, like I have been saying, those that cry about it should sign a paper stating they would never benefit from it at all.
Yea finally science prevails over politically-driven zealots. No longer can the likes of Pat Robertson, or even the Pope himself, hold science in a chokehold. Haha, I bet if there is a cure or a better treatment found for certain diseases through this research, those that castigated it will be the first ones trying to benefit from it. Hypocrites. That's why, like I have been saying, those that cry about it should sign a paper stating they would never benefit from it at all.
Nightwriter
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Shane,
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
Nightwriter
New member
Shane,
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
Nightwriter
New member
Shane,
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
Nightwriter
New member
Shane,
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
Nightwriter
New member
Shane,
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<br />I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
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<br />I was hoping that you would jump in -- mostly because I HATE arguing politics. I agree with you, so I don't mind talking politics with YOU. LOL. I was so hesitant in posting on this topic at all for this reason. I just hope that good things come out of all this research. We could use all the help science can now give us -- I hope it's sooner than later.
I am glad that science is being brought to the forefront of importance once again, hopefully not too late. I too have waited on posting on this subject because it brings in alot of emotion to people; however I am a supporter of stem cell research. Unfortunately,because of the recent financial collapse, non-profit organizations have suffered financially because their endowments have dropped. This effects research making it harder for reasearchers to get their grants funded. Obama is pouring in money into the NIH(National Institute of Health), hopefully this will counteract the money loss of nonprofit or private research. In terms of the embryonic stem cell research; it bring to light that there needs to be regulation of the # of embryos a couple can implant and store. I do feel that if someone feels an embryo is a potential life that only the # of embryos a couple is ready to have as actual children is the # that should be implanted or stored. These embryos in storage the couples have created but are not using and do not want is from lack of regulation; they can not be viable forever...this is the issue..they will degrade eventually; is that better than using them for research is if so specified by the couple?
I am glad that science is being brought to the forefront of importance once again, hopefully not too late. I too have waited on posting on this subject because it brings in alot of emotion to people; however I am a supporter of stem cell research. Unfortunately,because of the recent financial collapse, non-profit organizations have suffered financially because their endowments have dropped. This effects research making it harder for reasearchers to get their grants funded. Obama is pouring in money into the NIH(National Institute of Health), hopefully this will counteract the money loss of nonprofit or private research. In terms of the embryonic stem cell research; it bring to light that there needs to be regulation of the # of embryos a couple can implant and store. I do feel that if someone feels an embryo is a potential life that only the # of embryos a couple is ready to have as actual children is the # that should be implanted or stored. These embryos in storage the couples have created but are not using and do not want is from lack of regulation; they can not be viable forever...this is the issue..they will degrade eventually; is that better than using them for research is if so specified by the couple?
I am glad that science is being brought to the forefront of importance once again, hopefully not too late. I too have waited on posting on this subject because it brings in alot of emotion to people; however I am a supporter of stem cell research. Unfortunately,because of the recent financial collapse, non-profit organizations have suffered financially because their endowments have dropped. This effects research making it harder for reasearchers to get their grants funded. Obama is pouring in money into the NIH(National Institute of Health), hopefully this will counteract the money loss of nonprofit or private research. In terms of the embryonic stem cell research; it bring to light that there needs to be regulation of the # of embryos a couple can implant and store. I do feel that if someone feels an embryo is a potential life that only the # of embryos a couple is ready to have as actual children is the # that should be implanted or stored. These embryos in storage the couples have created but are not using and do not want is from lack of regulation; they can not be viable forever...this is the issue..they will degrade eventually; is that better than using them for research is if so specified by the couple?
I am glad that science is being brought to the forefront of importance once again, hopefully not too late. I too have waited on posting on this subject because it brings in alot of emotion to people; however I am a supporter of stem cell research. Unfortunately,because of the recent financial collapse, non-profit organizations have suffered financially because their endowments have dropped. This effects research making it harder for reasearchers to get their grants funded. Obama is pouring in money into the NIH(National Institute of Health), hopefully this will counteract the money loss of nonprofit or private research. In terms of the embryonic stem cell research; it bring to light that there needs to be regulation of the # of embryos a couple can implant and store. I do feel that if someone feels an embryo is a potential life that only the # of embryos a couple is ready to have as actual children is the # that should be implanted or stored. These embryos in storage the couples have created but are not using and do not want is from lack of regulation; they can not be viable forever...this is the issue..they will degrade eventually; is that better than using them for research is if so specified by the couple?
I am glad that science is being brought to the forefront of importance once again, hopefully not too late. I too have waited on posting on this subject because it brings in alot of emotion to people; however I am a supporter of stem cell research. Unfortunately,because of the recent financial collapse, non-profit organizations have suffered financially because their endowments have dropped. This effects research making it harder for reasearchers to get their grants funded. Obama is pouring in money into the NIH(National Institute of Health), hopefully this will counteract the money loss of nonprofit or private research. In terms of the embryonic stem cell research; it bring to light that there needs to be regulation of the # of embryos a couple can implant and store. I do feel that if someone feels an embryo is a potential life that only the # of embryos a couple is ready to have as actual children is the # that should be implanted or stored. These embryos in storage the couples have created but are not using and do not want is from lack of regulation; they can not be viable forever...this is the issue..they will degrade eventually; is that better than using them for research is if so specified by the couple?
Ok, I see mention of actual potential success in treating spinal cord injuries by a company Geron. Which as I stated, is my personal threshold for being more open to the research.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
Ok, I see mention of actual potential success in treating spinal cord injuries by a company Geron. Which as I stated, is my personal threshold for being more open to the research.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
Ok, I see mention of actual potential success in treating spinal cord injuries by a company Geron. Which as I stated, is my personal threshold for being more open to the research.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
Ok, I see mention of actual potential success in treating spinal cord injuries by a company Geron. Which as I stated, is my personal threshold for being more open to the research.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
They have been in operation since 1992.
From this I conclude:
One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
Ok, I see mention of actual potential success in treating spinal cord injuries by a company Geron. Which as I stated, is my personal threshold for being more open to the research.
<br />
<br />This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
<br />
<br />They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
<br />
<br />They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
<br />
<br />They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
<br />
<br />They have been in operation since 1992.
<br />
<br />
<br />From this I conclude:
<br />
<br />One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
<br />
<br />Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
<br />
<br />Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
<br />
<br />Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.
<br />
<br />This is what I was able to gleen from their site:
<br />
<br />They have received FDA clearance to begin the world's first human clinical trial of a hESC-based therapy: GRNOPC1 for acute spinal cord injury. Based upon success in rat spinal cord injuries.
<br />
<br />They are publicly traded and thus at least a portion of their funding comes from private sources.
<br />
<br />They are incorporated in Delaware & offices are located in California.
<br />
<br />They have been in operation since 1992.
<br />
<br />
<br />From this I conclude:
<br />
<br />One half the company's existance and one would assume the bulk of the research toward GRNOPC1 has occured in the last 8 years.
<br />
<br />Given this timeline, the progress they have made was done under the laws that were in place limiting public funding for embryonic stem cell research since they are a US company.
<br />
<br />Obviously the existing law did not stop the 1st FDA approval of a possible treatment based upon embryonic stem cells.
<br />
<br />Thus my question to supporters of Obama's decision: What is the benefit or purpose to justify using tax monies on this research. The law never prohitited the research or study into stem cells, only that the Gov't wouldn't use MY taxes to fund it. Anything that has such a strong split in our country should be funded by those that agree with it; not the Federal Government.