Odd ideas for treating CF?

Momtana

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My pharmacist keeps telling me to eat (raw) garlic - research shows it is very effective against pseudomonas.
 

Momtana

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My pharmacist keeps telling me to eat (raw) garlic - research shows it is very effective against pseudomonas.
 

Momtana

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My pharmacist keeps telling me to eat (raw) garlic - research shows it is very effective against pseudomonas.
 

Momtana

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My pharmacist keeps telling me to eat (raw) garlic - research shows it is very effective against pseudomonas.
 

Momtana

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My pharmacist keeps telling me to eat (raw) garlic - research shows it is very effective against pseudomonas.
 

Faust

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Only problem with garlic and garlic extracts is the blood thinner aspect. And Samurai, there were 4 other aspects discussed after the electriacal aspect. Sorry you were unable to read past that. These were just general ideas. Everything starts with an idea. Absolutely no possible way to move forward in any way from the idea? Then scrap it and throw it away. The potentiality holds some possible chance in some capacity to be helpful? Then move forward. As far as the electrical current aspect, i'm not talking about fraying a wall outlet cord and swallowing it. I was curious about the potential weaknesses of bacteria and their defenses vs current, and if there was any potential uses with any safe current used in the human body for our advantage. Obviously not using much amperage. Just something to kick around.


As far as the ultraviolet radiation aspect, I stated I knew it was overall harmful to our cells in my original post. But then again, i'm inhaling collistin right now and it says right on the insert that this product has not been tested for it's carcinogistic/mutagenic properties. I'm sure most people, if given the choice (myself included), would take the health risk vs a possible cancer effect down the road (though with minimal exposure, very slight chance) if someone was being devastated by pseudo or staph right now, and the once a month or even once a year treatment would erradicate a large percentage of our bugs. Of course the only question would be, would it? These are all hypothetical brainstorms. Not like i'm going to force a tanning booth long bulb down my gullet and turn it on. I would think, regarding the ultraviolet, there could possibly be something we could inhale neb wise that could adhere just to our lung tissue and protect that and not possibly protect the biofilm we are trying to destroy with the ultraviolet. Who knows. As I said before these are just ideas. More than likely they have no applications for various reasons, and this was an invitation not only for scrutiny of my ideas, but the offerings from others. I didn't see you offer anything, but you surely scrutinized mine, and that is fine. But saying you "couldn't handle reading past the first two paragraphs" in a flippant manner seems a tad rude. That is fine as well. I was trying to be constructive.
 

Faust

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Only problem with garlic and garlic extracts is the blood thinner aspect. And Samurai, there were 4 other aspects discussed after the electriacal aspect. Sorry you were unable to read past that. These were just general ideas. Everything starts with an idea. Absolutely no possible way to move forward in any way from the idea? Then scrap it and throw it away. The potentiality holds some possible chance in some capacity to be helpful? Then move forward. As far as the electrical current aspect, i'm not talking about fraying a wall outlet cord and swallowing it. I was curious about the potential weaknesses of bacteria and their defenses vs current, and if there was any potential uses with any safe current used in the human body for our advantage. Obviously not using much amperage. Just something to kick around.


As far as the ultraviolet radiation aspect, I stated I knew it was overall harmful to our cells in my original post. But then again, i'm inhaling collistin right now and it says right on the insert that this product has not been tested for it's carcinogistic/mutagenic properties. I'm sure most people, if given the choice (myself included), would take the health risk vs a possible cancer effect down the road (though with minimal exposure, very slight chance) if someone was being devastated by pseudo or staph right now, and the once a month or even once a year treatment would erradicate a large percentage of our bugs. Of course the only question would be, would it? These are all hypothetical brainstorms. Not like i'm going to force a tanning booth long bulb down my gullet and turn it on. I would think, regarding the ultraviolet, there could possibly be something we could inhale neb wise that could adhere just to our lung tissue and protect that and not possibly protect the biofilm we are trying to destroy with the ultraviolet. Who knows. As I said before these are just ideas. More than likely they have no applications for various reasons, and this was an invitation not only for scrutiny of my ideas, but the offerings from others. I didn't see you offer anything, but you surely scrutinized mine, and that is fine. But saying you "couldn't handle reading past the first two paragraphs" in a flippant manner seems a tad rude. That is fine as well. I was trying to be constructive.
 

Faust

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Only problem with garlic and garlic extracts is the blood thinner aspect. And Samurai, there were 4 other aspects discussed after the electriacal aspect. Sorry you were unable to read past that. These were just general ideas. Everything starts with an idea. Absolutely no possible way to move forward in any way from the idea? Then scrap it and throw it away. The potentiality holds some possible chance in some capacity to be helpful? Then move forward. As far as the electrical current aspect, i'm not talking about fraying a wall outlet cord and swallowing it. I was curious about the potential weaknesses of bacteria and their defenses vs current, and if there was any potential uses with any safe current used in the human body for our advantage. Obviously not using much amperage. Just something to kick around.


As far as the ultraviolet radiation aspect, I stated I knew it was overall harmful to our cells in my original post. But then again, i'm inhaling collistin right now and it says right on the insert that this product has not been tested for it's carcinogistic/mutagenic properties. I'm sure most people, if given the choice (myself included), would take the health risk vs a possible cancer effect down the road (though with minimal exposure, very slight chance) if someone was being devastated by pseudo or staph right now, and the once a month or even once a year treatment would erradicate a large percentage of our bugs. Of course the only question would be, would it? These are all hypothetical brainstorms. Not like i'm going to force a tanning booth long bulb down my gullet and turn it on. I would think, regarding the ultraviolet, there could possibly be something we could inhale neb wise that could adhere just to our lung tissue and protect that and not possibly protect the biofilm we are trying to destroy with the ultraviolet. Who knows. As I said before these are just ideas. More than likely they have no applications for various reasons, and this was an invitation not only for scrutiny of my ideas, but the offerings from others. I didn't see you offer anything, but you surely scrutinized mine, and that is fine. But saying you "couldn't handle reading past the first two paragraphs" in a flippant manner seems a tad rude. That is fine as well. I was trying to be constructive.
 

Faust

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Only problem with garlic and garlic extracts is the blood thinner aspect. And Samurai, there were 4 other aspects discussed after the electriacal aspect. Sorry you were unable to read past that. These were just general ideas. Everything starts with an idea. Absolutely no possible way to move forward in any way from the idea? Then scrap it and throw it away. The potentiality holds some possible chance in some capacity to be helpful? Then move forward. As far as the electrical current aspect, i'm not talking about fraying a wall outlet cord and swallowing it. I was curious about the potential weaknesses of bacteria and their defenses vs current, and if there was any potential uses with any safe current used in the human body for our advantage. Obviously not using much amperage. Just something to kick around.


As far as the ultraviolet radiation aspect, I stated I knew it was overall harmful to our cells in my original post. But then again, i'm inhaling collistin right now and it says right on the insert that this product has not been tested for it's carcinogistic/mutagenic properties. I'm sure most people, if given the choice (myself included), would take the health risk vs a possible cancer effect down the road (though with minimal exposure, very slight chance) if someone was being devastated by pseudo or staph right now, and the once a month or even once a year treatment would erradicate a large percentage of our bugs. Of course the only question would be, would it? These are all hypothetical brainstorms. Not like i'm going to force a tanning booth long bulb down my gullet and turn it on. I would think, regarding the ultraviolet, there could possibly be something we could inhale neb wise that could adhere just to our lung tissue and protect that and not possibly protect the biofilm we are trying to destroy with the ultraviolet. Who knows. As I said before these are just ideas. More than likely they have no applications for various reasons, and this was an invitation not only for scrutiny of my ideas, but the offerings from others. I didn't see you offer anything, but you surely scrutinized mine, and that is fine. But saying you "couldn't handle reading past the first two paragraphs" in a flippant manner seems a tad rude. That is fine as well. I was trying to be constructive.
 

Faust

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Only problem with garlic and garlic extracts is the blood thinner aspect. And Samurai, there were 4 other aspects discussed after the electriacal aspect. Sorry you were unable to read past that. These were just general ideas. Everything starts with an idea. Absolutely no possible way to move forward in any way from the idea? Then scrap it and throw it away. The potentiality holds some possible chance in some capacity to be helpful? Then move forward. As far as the electrical current aspect, i'm not talking about fraying a wall outlet cord and swallowing it. I was curious about the potential weaknesses of bacteria and their defenses vs current, and if there was any potential uses with any safe current used in the human body for our advantage. Obviously not using much amperage. Just something to kick around.


As far as the ultraviolet radiation aspect, I stated I knew it was overall harmful to our cells in my original post. But then again, i'm inhaling collistin right now and it says right on the insert that this product has not been tested for it's carcinogistic/mutagenic properties. I'm sure most people, if given the choice (myself included), would take the health risk vs a possible cancer effect down the road (though with minimal exposure, very slight chance) if someone was being devastated by pseudo or staph right now, and the once a month or even once a year treatment would erradicate a large percentage of our bugs. Of course the only question would be, would it? These are all hypothetical brainstorms. Not like i'm going to force a tanning booth long bulb down my gullet and turn it on. I would think, regarding the ultraviolet, there could possibly be something we could inhale neb wise that could adhere just to our lung tissue and protect that and not possibly protect the biofilm we are trying to destroy with the ultraviolet. Who knows. As I said before these are just ideas. More than likely they have no applications for various reasons, and this was an invitation not only for scrutiny of my ideas, but the offerings from others. I didn't see you offer anything, but you surely scrutinized mine, and that is fine. But saying you "couldn't handle reading past the first two paragraphs" in a flippant manner seems a tad rude. That is fine as well. I was trying to be constructive.
 

Sevenstars

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Interesting thread. I've been part of virtually every study I've been eligible for at my CF center, so I'm always looking for wacky - and possibly unsafe - things to try out.

I had to laugh when I read about inhaling alcohol... my friends in college joked about that with me numerous times <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> I've never tried to nebulize, say, a whole shot of vodka, but I have tried adding drops of it to colistin (hey, I'd try anything once to stop that s$*% from fizzing <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">) In more serious conversations some of those college friends and I talked about if alcohol would actually be able to break up the biofilm in our lungs (before we died from alcohol poisoning, anyway).

One other unconventional thing I wanted to toss out here for discussion. Once I had an MRI, and I was in there a particularly long time. That whole hospitalization I had not been able to cough productively, even with 4x a day treatments. Well after the MRI I literally coughed all day and definitely got out some plugs, and I probably coughed up cups and cups of mucous. I have no idea if the MRI had any part (or HOW it would have made me cough like that) but *shrug* it certainly seemed like it.
 

Sevenstars

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Interesting thread. I've been part of virtually every study I've been eligible for at my CF center, so I'm always looking for wacky - and possibly unsafe - things to try out.

I had to laugh when I read about inhaling alcohol... my friends in college joked about that with me numerous times <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> I've never tried to nebulize, say, a whole shot of vodka, but I have tried adding drops of it to colistin (hey, I'd try anything once to stop that s$*% from fizzing <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">) In more serious conversations some of those college friends and I talked about if alcohol would actually be able to break up the biofilm in our lungs (before we died from alcohol poisoning, anyway).

One other unconventional thing I wanted to toss out here for discussion. Once I had an MRI, and I was in there a particularly long time. That whole hospitalization I had not been able to cough productively, even with 4x a day treatments. Well after the MRI I literally coughed all day and definitely got out some plugs, and I probably coughed up cups and cups of mucous. I have no idea if the MRI had any part (or HOW it would have made me cough like that) but *shrug* it certainly seemed like it.
 

Sevenstars

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Interesting thread. I've been part of virtually every study I've been eligible for at my CF center, so I'm always looking for wacky - and possibly unsafe - things to try out.

I had to laugh when I read about inhaling alcohol... my friends in college joked about that with me numerous times <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> I've never tried to nebulize, say, a whole shot of vodka, but I have tried adding drops of it to colistin (hey, I'd try anything once to stop that s$*% from fizzing <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">) In more serious conversations some of those college friends and I talked about if alcohol would actually be able to break up the biofilm in our lungs (before we died from alcohol poisoning, anyway).

One other unconventional thing I wanted to toss out here for discussion. Once I had an MRI, and I was in there a particularly long time. That whole hospitalization I had not been able to cough productively, even with 4x a day treatments. Well after the MRI I literally coughed all day and definitely got out some plugs, and I probably coughed up cups and cups of mucous. I have no idea if the MRI had any part (or HOW it would have made me cough like that) but *shrug* it certainly seemed like it.
 

Sevenstars

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Interesting thread. I've been part of virtually every study I've been eligible for at my CF center, so I'm always looking for wacky - and possibly unsafe - things to try out.

I had to laugh when I read about inhaling alcohol... my friends in college joked about that with me numerous times <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> I've never tried to nebulize, say, a whole shot of vodka, but I have tried adding drops of it to colistin (hey, I'd try anything once to stop that s$*% from fizzing <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">) In more serious conversations some of those college friends and I talked about if alcohol would actually be able to break up the biofilm in our lungs (before we died from alcohol poisoning, anyway).

One other unconventional thing I wanted to toss out here for discussion. Once I had an MRI, and I was in there a particularly long time. That whole hospitalization I had not been able to cough productively, even with 4x a day treatments. Well after the MRI I literally coughed all day and definitely got out some plugs, and I probably coughed up cups and cups of mucous. I have no idea if the MRI had any part (or HOW it would have made me cough like that) but *shrug* it certainly seemed like it.
 

Sevenstars

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Interesting thread. I've been part of virtually every study I've been eligible for at my CF center, so I'm always looking for wacky - and possibly unsafe - things to try out.

I had to laugh when I read about inhaling alcohol... my friends in college joked about that with me numerous times <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif" border="0"> I've never tried to nebulize, say, a whole shot of vodka, but I have tried adding drops of it to colistin (hey, I'd try anything once to stop that s$*% from fizzing <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif" border="0">) In more serious conversations some of those college friends and I talked about if alcohol would actually be able to break up the biofilm in our lungs (before we died from alcohol poisoning, anyway).

One other unconventional thing I wanted to toss out here for discussion. Once I had an MRI, and I was in there a particularly long time. That whole hospitalization I had not been able to cough productively, even with 4x a day treatments. Well after the MRI I literally coughed all day and definitely got out some plugs, and I probably coughed up cups and cups of mucous. I have no idea if the MRI had any part (or HOW it would have made me cough like that) but *shrug* it certainly seemed like it.
 

Faust

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I can't stay I ever felt very productive after an MRI, but directed magnetic fields would be something cool to look into. Maybe a certain type and level could possibly confuse the bugs, break up the biofilm...Who knows.


And yeah, i'm just curious if ethanol kills off bugs as strong as the isopropyl alcohol does. If so, one would think, nebbing a shot of say grain alcohol once a day could be a great idea. I used to do it as a funny way to get drunk when I was very young and would raid my parents booze cabinet, but if there was something to it, i'd sure try it.
 

Faust

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I can't stay I ever felt very productive after an MRI, but directed magnetic fields would be something cool to look into. Maybe a certain type and level could possibly confuse the bugs, break up the biofilm...Who knows.


And yeah, i'm just curious if ethanol kills off bugs as strong as the isopropyl alcohol does. If so, one would think, nebbing a shot of say grain alcohol once a day could be a great idea. I used to do it as a funny way to get drunk when I was very young and would raid my parents booze cabinet, but if there was something to it, i'd sure try it.
 

Faust

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I can't stay I ever felt very productive after an MRI, but directed magnetic fields would be something cool to look into. Maybe a certain type and level could possibly confuse the bugs, break up the biofilm...Who knows.


And yeah, i'm just curious if ethanol kills off bugs as strong as the isopropyl alcohol does. If so, one would think, nebbing a shot of say grain alcohol once a day could be a great idea. I used to do it as a funny way to get drunk when I was very young and would raid my parents booze cabinet, but if there was something to it, i'd sure try it.
 

Faust

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I can't stay I ever felt very productive after an MRI, but directed magnetic fields would be something cool to look into. Maybe a certain type and level could possibly confuse the bugs, break up the biofilm...Who knows.


And yeah, i'm just curious if ethanol kills off bugs as strong as the isopropyl alcohol does. If so, one would think, nebbing a shot of say grain alcohol once a day could be a great idea. I used to do it as a funny way to get drunk when I was very young and would raid my parents booze cabinet, but if there was something to it, i'd sure try it.
 

Faust

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I can't stay I ever felt very productive after an MRI, but directed magnetic fields would be something cool to look into. Maybe a certain type and level could possibly confuse the bugs, break up the biofilm...Who knows.


And yeah, i'm just curious if ethanol kills off bugs as strong as the isopropyl alcohol does. If so, one would think, nebbing a shot of say grain alcohol once a day could be a great idea. I used to do it as a funny way to get drunk when I was very young and would raid my parents booze cabinet, but if there was something to it, i'd sure try it.
 
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