Funny, this same thought occurred to me this week- I spent about 3 hours a day just doing treatments, not including all the stuff that goes with it, and pill stuff, and sinus rinses, and the doctor visits, and the...No wonder I can't ever seem to get caught up around the house! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> My husband sent me a spread sheet to fill out, so he can keep up, lol!
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Poll for Feb 20, 2008
- Thread starter Imogene
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Funny, this same thought occurred to me this week- I spent about 3 hours a day just doing treatments, not including all the stuff that goes with it, and pill stuff, and sinus rinses, and the doctor visits, and the...No wonder I can't ever seem to get caught up around the house! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> My husband sent me a spread sheet to fill out, so he can keep up, lol!
Funny, this same thought occurred to me this week- I spent about 3 hours a day just doing treatments, not including all the stuff that goes with it, and pill stuff, and sinus rinses, and the doctor visits, and the...No wonder I can't ever seem to get caught up around the house! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> My husband sent me a spread sheet to fill out, so he can keep up, lol!
Funny, this same thought occurred to me this week- I spent about 3 hours a day just doing treatments, not including all the stuff that goes with it, and pill stuff, and sinus rinses, and the doctor visits, and the...No wonder I can't ever seem to get caught up around the house! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> My husband sent me a spread sheet to fill out, so he can keep up, lol!
Funny, this same thought occurred to me this week- I spent about 3 hours a day just doing treatments, not including all the stuff that goes with it, and pill stuff, and sinus rinses, and the doctor visits, and the...No wonder I can't ever seem to get caught up around the house! <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0"> My husband sent me a spread sheet to fill out, so he can keep up, lol!
CF treatment...how much time do you spend every day?
<br />Total Votes: (80)
<br />
<br />less than 1 hour
<br /> 8 (votes) 10.00 (%)
<br />1-2 hours
<br /> 36 (votes) 45.00 (%)
<br />2-3 hours
<br /> 24 (votes) 30.00 (%)
<br />more than 3 hours
<br /> 12 (votes) 15.00 (%)
<br />no time
<br /> 0 (votes) 0.00 (%)
<br />
<br />SO FAR Feb 23 9:06AM
<br />Total Votes: (80)
<br />
<br />less than 1 hour
<br /> 8 (votes) 10.00 (%)
<br />1-2 hours
<br /> 36 (votes) 45.00 (%)
<br />2-3 hours
<br /> 24 (votes) 30.00 (%)
<br />more than 3 hours
<br /> 12 (votes) 15.00 (%)
<br />no time
<br /> 0 (votes) 0.00 (%)
<br />
<br />SO FAR Feb 23 9:06AM
If you do the vest twice a day @ 3 cycles (one per frequency), then followed by the highest frequency for huffing/clearance...That is atleast 5 mins per setting, with 30 secs to a 1 min per highest cycle huff. So let's say for the vest alone (sans aresols) you got (of course everyone does it different, but everyone I have talked to does 3 frequencies for 5-10 mins followed by a high cycle huff...So these #'s are the lowest possible, so more than likely people do more)= 16:30 mins.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
If you do the vest twice a day @ 3 cycles (one per frequency), then followed by the highest frequency for huffing/clearance...That is atleast 5 mins per setting, with 30 secs to a 1 min per highest cycle huff. So let's say for the vest alone (sans aresols) you got (of course everyone does it different, but everyone I have talked to does 3 frequencies for 5-10 mins followed by a high cycle huff...So these #'s are the lowest possible, so more than likely people do more)= 16:30 mins.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
If you do the vest twice a day @ 3 cycles (one per frequency), then followed by the highest frequency for huffing/clearance...That is atleast 5 mins per setting, with 30 secs to a 1 min per highest cycle huff. So let's say for the vest alone (sans aresols) you got (of course everyone does it different, but everyone I have talked to does 3 frequencies for 5-10 mins followed by a high cycle huff...So these #'s are the lowest possible, so more than likely people do more)= 16:30 mins.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
If you do the vest twice a day @ 3 cycles (one per frequency), then followed by the highest frequency for huffing/clearance...That is atleast 5 mins per setting, with 30 secs to a 1 min per highest cycle huff. So let's say for the vest alone (sans aresols) you got (of course everyone does it different, but everyone I have talked to does 3 frequencies for 5-10 mins followed by a high cycle huff...So these #'s are the lowest possible, so more than likely people do more)= 16:30 mins.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
If you do the vest twice a day @ 3 cycles (one per frequency), then followed by the highest frequency for huffing/clearance...That is atleast 5 mins per setting, with 30 secs to a 1 min per highest cycle huff. So let's say for the vest alone (sans aresols) you got (of course everyone does it different, but everyone I have talked to does 3 frequencies for 5-10 mins followed by a high cycle huff...So these #'s are the lowest possible, so more than likely people do more)= 16:30 mins.
<br />
<br />16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
<br />
<br />Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
<br />
<br />I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
<br />
<br />So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
<br />
<br />
<br />Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
<br />
<br />16:30 * 2 = 33 mins just for vest for the day (twice a day).
<br />
<br />Typical meds via nebulizers are: Albuterol, pulmo, a long term antibiotic (coli, tobi, etc), and hypertonic saline. I know my coli and hyper are 5mls, which takes a while to neb. Pulmo is 2.5 mls, and I think albuterol and tobi are 2.5 or 3mls. So if we even did our nebs extremely fast back to back (which we don't), our smaller dose nebs are atleast 20 mins each. Our larger dose nebs can easily be 30+ mins each.
<br />
<br />I know the few times when I JUST did my nebs and not my vest, with quick turn around (no clearance) it took me a little over 1 hour and 30 mins. With my vest included WHILE I do my nebs, with clearance, it takes me slightly over 2 hours for a full treatment (let's say 2:30 hours to be more accurate) and that's if I don't zone out on the pc/tv during.
<br />
<br />So I personally (which is considered standard by my doc, and he's a leading CF doc) do 5 hours per day JUST on my nebs/vest.
<br />
<br />
<br />Of course these numbers can't be fully applied to everyone, but if you look at what is standard care, with just the nebs alone (not everyone has the vest), it would seem those people who do 1 hour per day, or 2 hours per day care wise have got to be lacking in their care. This isn't a judgment, it's just number crunching. Even if you only do albuterol and a huffing device, it would probably be over 1 hour per day care wise. So I have no idea how people are compliant care wise with that amount of time devoted to care.
My boyfriend will do about an hour of treatments per day.
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
My boyfriend will do about an hour of treatments per day.
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
My boyfriend will do about an hour of treatments per day.
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
My boyfriend will do about an hour of treatments per day.
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
My boyfriend will do about an hour of treatments per day.
<br />
<br />30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
<br />20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
<br />Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
<br />He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
<br />He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
<br />Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
<br />Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
<br />
<br />R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
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<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />
<br />30-40 minutes of ellyptica 5-6 times a week.
<br />20 minutes of autogenic drainage once per day(twice if he has a flare up). (we are saving to buy the vest).
<br />Oral Nac twice a day and flixotide-salmeterol inhaler twice/day:5 min.
<br />He doesn´t do inhaled antibiotics since he didn´t get pseudomona yet.
<br />He doesn´t do hypertonic or pulmozyme yet, (his doctors said he doesn´t need it yet, but we will adress that again with them on our next visit).
<br />Cleaning physiotherapy devices : 15 minutes.
<br />Total: 1hour 20 minutes.
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<br />R. Boyfriend 35 y.o cf. Diagnosed last year at.35
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