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Rutgersnyy

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When in doubt vote Democrat for your healthcare if you want help in that regard. If you are someone, like me, who thinks we should help ourselves and not rely on government as much then vote Republican.

The Republicans and Democrats are not much different as both parties try to get the "mainstream" of the country and neither party represents my beliefs.

I will vote Barr, who is a Libertarian, very small government party.
 
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Rutgersnyy

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When in doubt vote Democrat for your healthcare if you want help in that regard. If you are someone, like me, who thinks we should help ourselves and not rely on government as much then vote Republican.

The Republicans and Democrats are not much different as both parties try to get the "mainstream" of the country and neither party represents my beliefs.

I will vote Barr, who is a Libertarian, very small government party.
 
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Rutgersnyy

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When in doubt vote Democrat for your healthcare if you want help in that regard. If you are someone, like me, who thinks we should help ourselves and not rely on government as much then vote Republican.

The Republicans and Democrats are not much different as both parties try to get the "mainstream" of the country and neither party represents my beliefs.

I will vote Barr, who is a Libertarian, very small government party.
 
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Rutgersnyy

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When in doubt vote Democrat for your healthcare if you want help in that regard. If you are someone, like me, who thinks we should help ourselves and not rely on government as much then vote Republican.

The Republicans and Democrats are not much different as both parties try to get the "mainstream" of the country and neither party represents my beliefs.

I will vote Barr, who is a Libertarian, very small government party.
 
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Rutgersnyy

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When in doubt vote Democrat for your healthcare if you want help in that regard. If you are someone, like me, who thinks we should help ourselves and not rely on government as much then vote Republican.
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<br />The Republicans and Democrats are not much different as both parties try to get the "mainstream" of the country and neither party represents my beliefs.
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<br />I will vote Barr, who is a Libertarian, very small government party.
 
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dbtoo

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I hate politics, but you asked...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf">Obama's health care concepts:</a>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan <b>will force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums </b>for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase competition by insurers.
</end quote></div>

HAHAHAHaaa , ah yea. (His concepts on taxing the profits of oil companies is a laugh too.) Does Obama really think that ANY company will give up any portion of profit? <b>WrongO</b>. The government will tax, the companies will increase price and you my friends, will pay through the nose and many other orifaces.

You may want to read through that document. Print it out, in case he actually becomes president. Then check off every item that states 'OBAMA WILL'.


here's another good one:
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:
?? Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that
results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;
?? Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;
?? Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and
profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;
?? Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance
premiums; and
?? Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated
care.</end quote></div>

What does <b>Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions; </b> mean? Require prenatel testing for chronic conditions and mandate that they be aborted? Makes me wonder!
 
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dbtoo

New member
I hate politics, but you asked...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf">Obama's health care concepts:</a>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan <b>will force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums </b>for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase competition by insurers.
</end quote></div>

HAHAHAHaaa , ah yea. (His concepts on taxing the profits of oil companies is a laugh too.) Does Obama really think that ANY company will give up any portion of profit? <b>WrongO</b>. The government will tax, the companies will increase price and you my friends, will pay through the nose and many other orifaces.

You may want to read through that document. Print it out, in case he actually becomes president. Then check off every item that states 'OBAMA WILL'.


here's another good one:
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:
?? Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that
results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;
?? Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;
?? Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and
profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;
?? Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance
premiums; and
?? Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated
care.</end quote></div>

What does <b>Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions; </b> mean? Require prenatel testing for chronic conditions and mandate that they be aborted? Makes me wonder!
 
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dbtoo

New member
I hate politics, but you asked...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf">Obama's health care concepts:</a>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan <b>will force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums </b>for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase competition by insurers.
</end quote></div>

HAHAHAHaaa , ah yea. (His concepts on taxing the profits of oil companies is a laugh too.) Does Obama really think that ANY company will give up any portion of profit? <b>WrongO</b>. The government will tax, the companies will increase price and you my friends, will pay through the nose and many other orifaces.

You may want to read through that document. Print it out, in case he actually becomes president. Then check off every item that states 'OBAMA WILL'.


here's another good one:
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:
?? Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that
results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;
?? Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;
?? Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and
profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;
?? Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance
premiums; and
?? Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated
care.</end quote></div>

What does <b>Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions; </b> mean? Require prenatel testing for chronic conditions and mandate that they be aborted? Makes me wonder!
 
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dbtoo

New member
I hate politics, but you asked...

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf">Obama's health care concepts:</a>

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan <b>will force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums </b>for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase competition by insurers.
</end quote>

HAHAHAHaaa , ah yea. (His concepts on taxing the profits of oil companies is a laugh too.) Does Obama really think that ANY company will give up any portion of profit? <b>WrongO</b>. The government will tax, the companies will increase price and you my friends, will pay through the nose and many other orifaces.

You may want to read through that document. Print it out, in case he actually becomes president. Then check off every item that states 'OBAMA WILL'.


here's another good one:
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:
?? Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that
results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;
?? Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;
?? Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and
profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;
?? Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance
premiums; and
?? Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated
care.</end quote>

What does <b>Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions; </b> mean? Require prenatel testing for chronic conditions and mandate that they be aborted? Makes me wonder!
 
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dbtoo

New member
I hate politics, but you asked...
<br />
<br /><a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.barackobama.com/issues/pdf/HealthCareFullPlan.pdf">Obama's health care concepts:</a>
<br />
<br /><div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>
<br />Barack Obama will prevent companies from abusing their monopoly power through unjustified price increases. His plan <b>will force insurers to pay out a reasonable share of their premiums </b>for patient care instead of keeping exorbitant amounts for profits and administration. His new National Health Exchange will help increase competition by insurers.
<br /></end quote>
<br />
<br />HAHAHAHaaa , ah yea. (His concepts on taxing the profits of oil companies is a laugh too.) Does Obama really think that ANY company will give up any portion of profit? <b>WrongO</b>. The government will tax, the companies will increase price and you my friends, will pay through the nose and many other orifaces.
<br />
<br />You may want to read through that document. Print it out, in case he actually becomes president. Then check off every item that states 'OBAMA WILL'.
<br />
<br />
<br />here's another good one:
<br /><div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Under the Obama plan, the typical family will save up to $2,500 every year through:
<br />?? Health IT investment, which will reduce unnecessary spending in the system that
<br />results from preventable errors and inefficient paper billing systems;
<br />?? Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions;
<br />?? Increasing insurance industry competition and reducing underwriting costs and
<br />profits, which will reduce insurance overhead;
<br />?? Providing reinsurance for catastrophic coverage, which will reduce insurance
<br />premiums; and
<br />?? Making health insurance universal, which will reduce spending on uncompensated
<br />care.</end quote>
<br />
<br />What does <b>Improving prevention and management of chronic conditions; </b> mean? Require prenatel testing for chronic conditions and mandate that they be aborted? Makes me wonder!
 
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point

New member
Vampy - there are many websites you can visit and also watch info on tv as it comes. There will be a lot as the election comes closer. That would be your best route to determine what you would like to see in our next president.

In the long run, I feel that I would like to choose my doctors and not be limited to what the government demands. I prefer the opportunity to choose which medications I take based on the recommendations from my doctors instead of the gov't deciding for me.

Truthfully, I am with Dana. I don't believe there will be much change. Also, the past examples of govt controlled programs are not impressive.
 
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point

New member
Vampy - there are many websites you can visit and also watch info on tv as it comes. There will be a lot as the election comes closer. That would be your best route to determine what you would like to see in our next president.

In the long run, I feel that I would like to choose my doctors and not be limited to what the government demands. I prefer the opportunity to choose which medications I take based on the recommendations from my doctors instead of the gov't deciding for me.

Truthfully, I am with Dana. I don't believe there will be much change. Also, the past examples of govt controlled programs are not impressive.
 
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point

New member
Vampy - there are many websites you can visit and also watch info on tv as it comes. There will be a lot as the election comes closer. That would be your best route to determine what you would like to see in our next president.

In the long run, I feel that I would like to choose my doctors and not be limited to what the government demands. I prefer the opportunity to choose which medications I take based on the recommendations from my doctors instead of the gov't deciding for me.

Truthfully, I am with Dana. I don't believe there will be much change. Also, the past examples of govt controlled programs are not impressive.
 
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point

New member
Vampy - there are many websites you can visit and also watch info on tv as it comes. There will be a lot as the election comes closer. That would be your best route to determine what you would like to see in our next president.

In the long run, I feel that I would like to choose my doctors and not be limited to what the government demands. I prefer the opportunity to choose which medications I take based on the recommendations from my doctors instead of the gov't deciding for me.

Truthfully, I am with Dana. I don't believe there will be much change. Also, the past examples of govt controlled programs are not impressive.
 
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point

New member
Vampy - there are many websites you can visit and also watch info on tv as it comes. There will be a lot as the election comes closer. That would be your best route to determine what you would like to see in our next president.
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<br />In the long run, I feel that I would like to choose my doctors and not be limited to what the government demands. I prefer the opportunity to choose which medications I take based on the recommendations from my doctors instead of the gov't deciding for me.
<br />
<br />Truthfully, I am with Dana. I don't believe there will be much change. Also, the past examples of govt controlled programs are not impressive.
 
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Sevenstars

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbtoo</b></i>

I hate politics, but you asked...

</end quote></div>

Me too Db, me too.

You know, I'm reading all these sites and whatnot, and it seems that none of them actually list definitive costs or ANYTHING. It's all just hypothetical and fluff. Kind of makes it hard to make a decision when it's just a battle of who wrote the more eloquent BS. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

If anyone has some links that shows actual projected costs for the various plans, that'd be something I'm interested in seeing... but I doubt that exists.
 
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Sevenstars

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbtoo</b></i>

I hate politics, but you asked...

</end quote></div>

Me too Db, me too.

You know, I'm reading all these sites and whatnot, and it seems that none of them actually list definitive costs or ANYTHING. It's all just hypothetical and fluff. Kind of makes it hard to make a decision when it's just a battle of who wrote the more eloquent BS. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

If anyone has some links that shows actual projected costs for the various plans, that'd be something I'm interested in seeing... but I doubt that exists.
 
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Sevenstars

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbtoo</b></i>

I hate politics, but you asked...

</end quote></div>

Me too Db, me too.

You know, I'm reading all these sites and whatnot, and it seems that none of them actually list definitive costs or ANYTHING. It's all just hypothetical and fluff. Kind of makes it hard to make a decision when it's just a battle of who wrote the more eloquent BS. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

If anyone has some links that shows actual projected costs for the various plans, that'd be something I'm interested in seeing... but I doubt that exists.
 
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Sevenstars

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbtoo</b></i>

I hate politics, but you asked...

</end quote>

Me too Db, me too.

You know, I'm reading all these sites and whatnot, and it seems that none of them actually list definitive costs or ANYTHING. It's all just hypothetical and fluff. Kind of makes it hard to make a decision when it's just a battle of who wrote the more eloquent BS. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">

If anyone has some links that shows actual projected costs for the various plans, that'd be something I'm interested in seeing... but I doubt that exists.
 
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Sevenstars

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>dbtoo</b></i>
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<br />I hate politics, but you asked...
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<br /></end quote>
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<br />Me too Db, me too.
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<br />You know, I'm reading all these sites and whatnot, and it seems that none of them actually list definitive costs or ANYTHING. It's all just hypothetical and fluff. Kind of makes it hard to make a decision when it's just a battle of who wrote the more eloquent BS. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif" border="0">
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<br />If anyone has some links that shows actual projected costs for the various plans, that'd be something I'm interested in seeing... but I doubt that exists.
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