Religion and Illness. Where does your church stand?

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luke

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I think Lauren summed it up very nicely. I have never had a church say that about me...at least to my face. I do know that I gave up a very long time ago trying to figure out why god "gave" me CF. I can tell you with all certainty that having CF has more to do with the way I am than any other single factor. Many things have happened in my life that I didn't understand at the time. My wife and I often joke about if I wasn't married to the wrong person before I wouldn't realize I was married to the right person now. I promise you when I was going through my divorce that was not what I was thinking! Of course in the "churches" eyes my being divorced is wrong and getting remarried is even worse. I am positive that God sent me Christi to get me through the times when I am sick and celebrate the times when I am not so how can being remarried be wrong when he sent her to me? God works in mysterious ways that I will never understand. I promise though, I am smarter than the folks at your church and if I don't get it, they can't either. Part of organized religions goal is to scare the flock into a direction...and what better way to make sure everyone is praying than telling you that you will be sick otherwise. I agree with the other comments about finding another church, I think churches are like shoes, keep trying them on until you find one that fits.

If you don't mind...what type of church was it?
 
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luke

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I think Lauren summed it up very nicely. I have never had a church say that about me...at least to my face. I do know that I gave up a very long time ago trying to figure out why god "gave" me CF. I can tell you with all certainty that having CF has more to do with the way I am than any other single factor. Many things have happened in my life that I didn't understand at the time. My wife and I often joke about if I wasn't married to the wrong person before I wouldn't realize I was married to the right person now. I promise you when I was going through my divorce that was not what I was thinking! Of course in the "churches" eyes my being divorced is wrong and getting remarried is even worse. I am positive that God sent me Christi to get me through the times when I am sick and celebrate the times when I am not so how can being remarried be wrong when he sent her to me? God works in mysterious ways that I will never understand. I promise though, I am smarter than the folks at your church and if I don't get it, they can't either. Part of organized religions goal is to scare the flock into a direction...and what better way to make sure everyone is praying than telling you that you will be sick otherwise. I agree with the other comments about finding another church, I think churches are like shoes, keep trying them on until you find one that fits.

If you don't mind...what type of church was it?
 
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luke

Guest
I think Lauren summed it up very nicely. I have never had a church say that about me...at least to my face. I do know that I gave up a very long time ago trying to figure out why god "gave" me CF. I can tell you with all certainty that having CF has more to do with the way I am than any other single factor. Many things have happened in my life that I didn't understand at the time. My wife and I often joke about if I wasn't married to the wrong person before I wouldn't realize I was married to the right person now. I promise you when I was going through my divorce that was not what I was thinking! Of course in the "churches" eyes my being divorced is wrong and getting remarried is even worse. I am positive that God sent me Christi to get me through the times when I am sick and celebrate the times when I am not so how can being remarried be wrong when he sent her to me? God works in mysterious ways that I will never understand. I promise though, I am smarter than the folks at your church and if I don't get it, they can't either. Part of organized religions goal is to scare the flock into a direction...and what better way to make sure everyone is praying than telling you that you will be sick otherwise. I agree with the other comments about finding another church, I think churches are like shoes, keep trying them on until you find one that fits.

If you don't mind...what type of church was it?
 
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luke

Guest
I think Lauren summed it up very nicely. I have never had a church say that about me...at least to my face. I do know that I gave up a very long time ago trying to figure out why god "gave" me CF. I can tell you with all certainty that having CF has more to do with the way I am than any other single factor. Many things have happened in my life that I didn't understand at the time. My wife and I often joke about if I wasn't married to the wrong person before I wouldn't realize I was married to the right person now. I promise you when I was going through my divorce that was not what I was thinking! Of course in the "churches" eyes my being divorced is wrong and getting remarried is even worse. I am positive that God sent me Christi to get me through the times when I am sick and celebrate the times when I am not so how can being remarried be wrong when he sent her to me? God works in mysterious ways that I will never understand. I promise though, I am smarter than the folks at your church and if I don't get it, they can't either. Part of organized religions goal is to scare the flock into a direction...and what better way to make sure everyone is praying than telling you that you will be sick otherwise. I agree with the other comments about finding another church, I think churches are like shoes, keep trying them on until you find one that fits.

If you don't mind...what type of church was it?
 
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luke

Guest
I think Lauren summed it up very nicely. I have never had a church say that about me...at least to my face. I do know that I gave up a very long time ago trying to figure out why god "gave" me CF. I can tell you with all certainty that having CF has more to do with the way I am than any other single factor. Many things have happened in my life that I didn't understand at the time. My wife and I often joke about if I wasn't married to the wrong person before I wouldn't realize I was married to the right person now. I promise you when I was going through my divorce that was not what I was thinking! Of course in the "churches" eyes my being divorced is wrong and getting remarried is even worse. I am positive that God sent me Christi to get me through the times when I am sick and celebrate the times when I am not so how can being remarried be wrong when he sent her to me? God works in mysterious ways that I will never understand. I promise though, I am smarter than the folks at your church and if I don't get it, they can't either. Part of organized religions goal is to scare the flock into a direction...and what better way to make sure everyone is praying than telling you that you will be sick otherwise. I agree with the other comments about finding another church, I think churches are like shoes, keep trying them on until you find one that fits.

If you don't mind...what type of church was it?
 
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letsrockcfem

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That is a pretty intense ordeal you went through Johannaleigh, outrageous really. This kind of stuff really gets to me, people are really thinking these things!?! Now I believe in God but stopped going to Church a while back..just kinda disagree with a lot of what happens and a lot of the beliefs. A few of my friends are very very religious and I support them 100%.

My good friend at work is a very religous guy who came to the U.S. from Nigeria 4 years ago..we talk about everything and generally have a great time working together. Every now and then he throws out this "I pray for you and by God's grace you will be healed.." so I ask him "like what, I'm not going to have CF..just wake up one morning healed?" He is like "yes by God's grace!" Ok cool I think and then I think, I am not accepting this so I ask "what about everyone else with CF? I'm going to be the chosen one to be healed and everyone is still going to keep living with CF." Of course he answers yes..and by this time I just nod and smerk thinking wow how extreme is this? People are really walking around thinking these things.
 
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letsrockcfem

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That is a pretty intense ordeal you went through Johannaleigh, outrageous really. This kind of stuff really gets to me, people are really thinking these things!?! Now I believe in God but stopped going to Church a while back..just kinda disagree with a lot of what happens and a lot of the beliefs. A few of my friends are very very religious and I support them 100%.

My good friend at work is a very religous guy who came to the U.S. from Nigeria 4 years ago..we talk about everything and generally have a great time working together. Every now and then he throws out this "I pray for you and by God's grace you will be healed.." so I ask him "like what, I'm not going to have CF..just wake up one morning healed?" He is like "yes by God's grace!" Ok cool I think and then I think, I am not accepting this so I ask "what about everyone else with CF? I'm going to be the chosen one to be healed and everyone is still going to keep living with CF." Of course he answers yes..and by this time I just nod and smerk thinking wow how extreme is this? People are really walking around thinking these things.
 
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letsrockcfem

New member
That is a pretty intense ordeal you went through Johannaleigh, outrageous really. This kind of stuff really gets to me, people are really thinking these things!?! Now I believe in God but stopped going to Church a while back..just kinda disagree with a lot of what happens and a lot of the beliefs. A few of my friends are very very religious and I support them 100%.

My good friend at work is a very religous guy who came to the U.S. from Nigeria 4 years ago..we talk about everything and generally have a great time working together. Every now and then he throws out this "I pray for you and by God's grace you will be healed.." so I ask him "like what, I'm not going to have CF..just wake up one morning healed?" He is like "yes by God's grace!" Ok cool I think and then I think, I am not accepting this so I ask "what about everyone else with CF? I'm going to be the chosen one to be healed and everyone is still going to keep living with CF." Of course he answers yes..and by this time I just nod and smerk thinking wow how extreme is this? People are really walking around thinking these things.
 
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letsrockcfem

New member
That is a pretty intense ordeal you went through Johannaleigh, outrageous really. This kind of stuff really gets to me, people are really thinking these things!?! Now I believe in God but stopped going to Church a while back..just kinda disagree with a lot of what happens and a lot of the beliefs. A few of my friends are very very religious and I support them 100%.

My good friend at work is a very religous guy who came to the U.S. from Nigeria 4 years ago..we talk about everything and generally have a great time working together. Every now and then he throws out this "I pray for you and by God's grace you will be healed.." so I ask him "like what, I'm not going to have CF..just wake up one morning healed?" He is like "yes by God's grace!" Ok cool I think and then I think, I am not accepting this so I ask "what about everyone else with CF? I'm going to be the chosen one to be healed and everyone is still going to keep living with CF." Of course he answers yes..and by this time I just nod and smerk thinking wow how extreme is this? People are really walking around thinking these things.
 
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letsrockcfem

New member
That is a pretty intense ordeal you went through Johannaleigh, outrageous really. This kind of stuff really gets to me, people are really thinking these things!?! Now I believe in God but stopped going to Church a while back..just kinda disagree with a lot of what happens and a lot of the beliefs. A few of my friends are very very religious and I support them 100%.

My good friend at work is a very religous guy who came to the U.S. from Nigeria 4 years ago..we talk about everything and generally have a great time working together. Every now and then he throws out this "I pray for you and by God's grace you will be healed.." so I ask him "like what, I'm not going to have CF..just wake up one morning healed?" He is like "yes by God's grace!" Ok cool I think and then I think, I am not accepting this so I ask "what about everyone else with CF? I'm going to be the chosen one to be healed and everyone is still going to keep living with CF." Of course he answers yes..and by this time I just nod and smerk thinking wow how extreme is this? People are really walking around thinking these things.
 
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mamerth

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The few people at my church have opened their mouths and inserted their whole entire bodies (ignorance to the max). The leaders are not much better. The people in my church that have struggle with cancer are lifted up on and seen as "holy". I have something they don't understand and they won't even stand by me (physically). No one has come right out and "suggested" that my illness is a sin or my parents sins (but have come pretty close). I have "religious" relatives that like to tell me that God is punishing me because I was born of illegitimate birth. That one burns me to the core.

I had one lady at church told me that I am not taking good care of myself and that my family needs me to take better care of myself (I about blew a gasket). Now that she knows I have CF she won't talk to me much anymore.

We just have begun to "do religion" at home rather than at church (our own bible study and acts of service in our community). Church should be a safe place but unfortunately for me it is a very hurtful, non-supportive place. I don't want my son to see church as a judgmental, hurtful place (we now go as visitors once or twice a month).
 
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mamerth

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The few people at my church have opened their mouths and inserted their whole entire bodies (ignorance to the max). The leaders are not much better. The people in my church that have struggle with cancer are lifted up on and seen as "holy". I have something they don't understand and they won't even stand by me (physically). No one has come right out and "suggested" that my illness is a sin or my parents sins (but have come pretty close). I have "religious" relatives that like to tell me that God is punishing me because I was born of illegitimate birth. That one burns me to the core.

I had one lady at church told me that I am not taking good care of myself and that my family needs me to take better care of myself (I about blew a gasket). Now that she knows I have CF she won't talk to me much anymore.

We just have begun to "do religion" at home rather than at church (our own bible study and acts of service in our community). Church should be a safe place but unfortunately for me it is a very hurtful, non-supportive place. I don't want my son to see church as a judgmental, hurtful place (we now go as visitors once or twice a month).
 
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mamerth

New member
The few people at my church have opened their mouths and inserted their whole entire bodies (ignorance to the max). The leaders are not much better. The people in my church that have struggle with cancer are lifted up on and seen as "holy". I have something they don't understand and they won't even stand by me (physically). No one has come right out and "suggested" that my illness is a sin or my parents sins (but have come pretty close). I have "religious" relatives that like to tell me that God is punishing me because I was born of illegitimate birth. That one burns me to the core.

I had one lady at church told me that I am not taking good care of myself and that my family needs me to take better care of myself (I about blew a gasket). Now that she knows I have CF she won't talk to me much anymore.

We just have begun to "do religion" at home rather than at church (our own bible study and acts of service in our community). Church should be a safe place but unfortunately for me it is a very hurtful, non-supportive place. I don't want my son to see church as a judgmental, hurtful place (we now go as visitors once or twice a month).
 
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mamerth

New member
The few people at my church have opened their mouths and inserted their whole entire bodies (ignorance to the max). The leaders are not much better. The people in my church that have struggle with cancer are lifted up on and seen as "holy". I have something they don't understand and they won't even stand by me (physically). No one has come right out and "suggested" that my illness is a sin or my parents sins (but have come pretty close). I have "religious" relatives that like to tell me that God is punishing me because I was born of illegitimate birth. That one burns me to the core.

I had one lady at church told me that I am not taking good care of myself and that my family needs me to take better care of myself (I about blew a gasket). Now that she knows I have CF she won't talk to me much anymore.

We just have begun to "do religion" at home rather than at church (our own bible study and acts of service in our community). Church should be a safe place but unfortunately for me it is a very hurtful, non-supportive place. I don't want my son to see church as a judgmental, hurtful place (we now go as visitors once or twice a month).
 
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mamerth

New member
The few people at my church have opened their mouths and inserted their whole entire bodies (ignorance to the max). The leaders are not much better. The people in my church that have struggle with cancer are lifted up on and seen as "holy". I have something they don't understand and they won't even stand by me (physically). No one has come right out and "suggested" that my illness is a sin or my parents sins (but have come pretty close). I have "religious" relatives that like to tell me that God is punishing me because I was born of illegitimate birth. That one burns me to the core.

I had one lady at church told me that I am not taking good care of myself and that my family needs me to take better care of myself (I about blew a gasket). Now that she knows I have CF she won't talk to me much anymore.

We just have begun to "do religion" at home rather than at church (our own bible study and acts of service in our community). Church should be a safe place but unfortunately for me it is a very hurtful, non-supportive place. I don't want my son to see church as a judgmental, hurtful place (we now go as visitors once or twice a month).
 
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