Second Child??

KristenLilysMom

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We are the proud parents of a 10 month old girl with CF. We love her to bits and wouldn't change anything. We have always planned on having 2 children. Since Lily's diagnosis my husband has become firm that she will be our only child. His reasons are two fold 1. She deserves all of our time and attention and 2. Why would we risk bringing another child into the world knowing they may have to struggle with their health their entire lives. I can't argue his points since I agree they are good ones, but I have always pictured myself with 2 children.Termination post CVS or amniocentisis testing, while I support thatdecision, is not an option for us. We live in Canada where adoptions are expensive and time consuming. I would like to explore pre-implantation genetic screening, however this is also a very expensive option.
How have other couples decided to have more children knowing the genetic roulette you are playing.
 

KristenLilysMom

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We are the proud parents of a 10 month old girl with CF. We love her to bits and wouldn't change anything. We have always planned on having 2 children. Since Lily's diagnosis my husband has become firm that she will be our only child. His reasons are two fold 1. She deserves all of our time and attention and 2. Why would we risk bringing another child into the world knowing they may have to struggle with their health their entire lives. I can't argue his points since I agree they are good ones, but I have always pictured myself with 2 children.Termination post CVS or amniocentisis testing, while I support thatdecision, is not an option for us. We live in Canada where adoptions are expensive and time consuming. I would like to explore pre-implantation genetic screening, however this is also a very expensive option.
How have other couples decided to have more children knowing the genetic roulette you are playing.
 
we decided to have a second - due to the above mentioned and some some more reasons we could not for pre-implantation genetic screening - its simply not legal - seen as abortion here - and so - extremely expesive.
It was a hard road with emotions - but it was our desition - my husbands and mine - very important when your hormones and emotions go off when pregnant. We are happy to have a second healthy girl. Asia is happy and not alone in her struggle. But we waited longer - till Asia finished her second birthday and we finaly got news that her cf wil most propobly be milder due to her first muatation - class V.
 
we decided to have a second - due to the above mentioned and some some more reasons we could not for pre-implantation genetic screening - its simply not legal - seen as abortion here - and so - extremely expesive.
It was a hard road with emotions - but it was our desition - my husbands and mine - very important when your hormones and emotions go off when pregnant. We are happy to have a second healthy girl. Asia is happy and not alone in her struggle. But we waited longer - till Asia finished her second birthday and we finaly got news that her cf wil most propobly be milder due to her first muatation - class V.
 

JENNYC

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Hi Kristen, We have 2 children and like you would not trade them for the world!!! Our oldest does not have CF. There is a chance that your second would be perfectly fine. Not only that, these are amazing times!! Within the next couple of years I truely believe that our lifestyle with CF that we know now will not exist! I know I am being optimistic but with everyone saying how wonderful they are doing on the trials that are out right now how can you not be! If you are not a part of the facebook group "Praying for success in VX 770/809" I highly recommend you join and here and meet all the wonderful people. Their experiences will drop your jaw and give you so much hope for the future. I say you just need to follow your heart, whatever that maybe. God will not put on you more than you can handle. And think about it like this if you would have known that Lily was going to be born with CF would you not want to bring her into this world for fear that she may suffer? My little girl is fixing to be 7 and she is living such a full happy life as I am sure your little bundle of joy is as well. She doesn't seem to notice or care that she is different. Not trying to sway you one way or the other, just putting food for thought out there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good luck with your decision!!
 

JENNYC

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Hi Kristen, We have 2 children and like you would not trade them for the world!!! Our oldest does not have CF. There is a chance that your second would be perfectly fine. Not only that, these are amazing times!! Within the next couple of years I truely believe that our lifestyle with CF that we know now will not exist! I know I am being optimistic but with everyone saying how wonderful they are doing on the trials that are out right now how can you not be! If you are not a part of the facebook group "Praying for success in VX 770/809" I highly recommend you join and here and meet all the wonderful people. Their experiences will drop your jaw and give you so much hope for the future. I say you just need to follow your heart, whatever that maybe. God will not put on you more than you can handle. And think about it like this if you would have known that Lily was going to be born with CF would you not want to bring her into this world for fear that she may suffer? My little girl is fixing to be 7 and she is living such a full happy life as I am sure your little bundle of joy is as well. She doesn't seem to notice or care that she is different. Not trying to sway you one way or the other, just putting food for thought out there. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> Good luck with your decision!!
 

Aboveallislove

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This is going to be totally stream-of-conscienceness and obviously completely our personal take which might differ from many others. When our DS was diagnosed, it was almost a double-whamming to me of the diagnosis and a diagnosis of infertility. But at the same time I knew in my heart I wanted more children--no matter the "risk." What I struggled with most was 1) whether it was fair to another child and 2) whether we could handle it. My heart ached for another baby but I hesitated talking to too many people because I knew others wouldn't see my perfect child as well, my perfect child, and thus would view the thought of having a second child in the same light. What healed my heart was when a dear friend said in response to my fear of it being unfair to a child, "oh, but he would always choose life." We were still exhausted, though, and at that point just left it up to God and prayed that he'd make it an easy choice. When we were able to handle trying more proactively, strangely, my fear of CF wasn't there--we were able to handle everything with DS and figured we could handle it with 2 if need be. I also had such joy thinking what a gift a sibbling would be to our DS. We haven't been able to get pregnant again and likely won't given we've been trying nearly two years with the assistance we are morally comfortable with, but I won't have any second doubts. And I'll love to be able to tell DS that we really wanted more children and to remind him that he use to pray with mommy and daddy for a baby brother and sister.

Throughout the process, DH wasn't quite as far along as I was--he wanted another child too, but the fears played too heavily in his heart. I told him all of my thoughts and basically left it as I don't want this unless you are 100% sure. That doesn't mean we both didn't have times when the fears were more in the forefront of our heads, but it also helped for me to ask myself: Would you still want DS if you knew he would have CF. And the answer was an unbendable "yes."

I'll keep you and your family in my prayers as you struggle with what is right for your family.
 

Aboveallislove

Super Moderator
This is going to be totally stream-of-conscienceness and obviously completely our personal take which might differ from many others. When our DS was diagnosed, it was almost a double-whamming to me of the diagnosis and a diagnosis of infertility. But at the same time I knew in my heart I wanted more children--no matter the "risk." What I struggled with most was 1) whether it was fair to another child and 2) whether we could handle it. My heart ached for another baby but I hesitated talking to too many people because I knew others wouldn't see my perfect child as well, my perfect child, and thus would view the thought of having a second child in the same light. What healed my heart was when a dear friend said in response to my fear of it being unfair to a child, "oh, but he would always choose life." We were still exhausted, though, and at that point just left it up to God and prayed that he'd make it an easy choice. When we were able to handle trying more proactively, strangely, my fear of CF wasn't there--we were able to handle everything with DS and figured we could handle it with 2 if need be. I also had such joy thinking what a gift a sibbling would be to our DS. We haven't been able to get pregnant again and likely won't given we've been trying nearly two years with the assistance we are morally comfortable with, but I won't have any second doubts. And I'll love to be able to tell DS that we really wanted more children and to remind him that he use to pray with mommy and daddy for a baby brother and sister.

Throughout the process, DH wasn't quite as far along as I was--he wanted another child too, but the fears played too heavily in his heart. I told him all of my thoughts and basically left it as I don't want this unless you are 100% sure. That doesn't mean we both didn't have times when the fears were more in the forefront of our heads, but it also helped for me to ask myself: Would you still want DS if you knew he would have CF. And the answer was an unbendable "yes."

I'll keep you and your family in my prayers as you struggle with what is right for your family.
 

Eirin27

New member
We too wanted a second child(with my ex husband).When i found out that i was pregnant in our second child we just made our decision to carry on ... when i was three months pregnant i did a chorionic villus sampling that showed my daughter was a carrier eterozygous df508.Now and then ,when i think about it ,even if she had cf i was determined not to make an abortion although my gynekologist suggested so ....It would have been a hugee mistake,especially when i see how well my son is growing up like all other kids.
I believe things are much better nowadays for people with cf ,espcesially for those who were born the last decade,and for those who are gonna be born in the future...although every person is different and there's a difference in the severity of cf syptoms today cf is something that is manageable and doctors know much more things to treat it than they used to in the past.
 

Eirin27

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We too wanted a second child(with my ex husband).When i found out that i was pregnant in our second child we just made our decision to carry on ... when i was three months pregnant i did a chorionic villus sampling that showed my daughter was a carrier eterozygous df508.Now and then ,when i think about it ,even if she had cf i was determined not to make an abortion although my gynekologist suggested so ....It would have been a hugee mistake,especially when i see how well my son is growing up like all other kids.
I believe things are much better nowadays for people with cf ,espcesially for those who were born the last decade,and for those who are gonna be born in the future...although every person is different and there's a difference in the severity of cf syptoms today cf is something that is manageable and doctors know much more things to treat it than they used to in the past.
 
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Mommafirst

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Personally, I would not have another child, knowing what I know about this disease. But I started the sentence with the word "personally" because this is an incredible personal decision that no one else can make for you and your family and no one else's opinion is relevant. Its going to be a busy thread, people have strong feelings one way or another. In the end, just be sure you make the decision with your knowledge of what you can and cannot do and what you could be getting into. A "healthy" first CF patient does not insure the second child to be equally as "lucky". And a "healthy" first few years, does not insure a healthy and long life with CF. It is a confusing disease and despite lots of progress, there are still babies and children dying of this disease. Its not a perfect world, there will be no perfect decision. I hope you will be able to make the right one that you can live with.
 
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Mommafirst

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Personally, I would not have another child, knowing what I know about this disease. But I started the sentence with the word "personally" because this is an incredible personal decision that no one else can make for you and your family and no one else's opinion is relevant. Its going to be a busy thread, people have strong feelings one way or another. In the end, just be sure you make the decision with your knowledge of what you can and cannot do and what you could be getting into. A "healthy" first CF patient does not insure the second child to be equally as "lucky". And a "healthy" first few years, does not insure a healthy and long life with CF. It is a confusing disease and despite lots of progress, there are still babies and children dying of this disease. Its not a perfect world, there will be no perfect decision. I hope you will be able to make the right one that you can live with.
 

Anomie

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So, because you always pictured yourself as having two kids you would risk bringing another child into this world to suffer from this dreadful disease. Sounds pretty selfish to me.
 

Anomie

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So, because you always pictured yourself as having two kids you would risk bringing another child into this world to suffer from this dreadful disease. Sounds pretty selfish to me.
 

Justinsmom

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Hi,

Have you considered adoption? We went though fertility (with our 1st, non CF son) and were in the process of adoption when I got pregnant with him. At that point, and with both boys, I would have been thrilled to have a child no matter what the issue was (color, health, 3rd eye.) We went through the fear of downs syndrome with my first (heart issue that was thought at the time to be assoicated with downs) prior to birth (luckily no issue) but I remember thinking I would love him the same no matter what. Having dealt with Justin's issues so far (extensive history first few years and now CF diagnsis and issues) I think I would consider adoption to fill that second gap in our family I understand that need to "complete" your family. My first son made me a mom, my second completed our family.

My prayers are with you as you make this decision. No matter what you do, I am sure you will make the right decision for your family.
 

Justinsmom

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Hi,

Have you considered adoption? We went though fertility (with our 1st, non CF son) and were in the process of adoption when I got pregnant with him. At that point, and with both boys, I would have been thrilled to have a child no matter what the issue was (color, health, 3rd eye.) We went through the fear of downs syndrome with my first (heart issue that was thought at the time to be assoicated with downs) prior to birth (luckily no issue) but I remember thinking I would love him the same no matter what. Having dealt with Justin's issues so far (extensive history first few years and now CF diagnsis and issues) I think I would consider adoption to fill that second gap in our family I understand that need to "complete" your family. My first son made me a mom, my second completed our family.

My prayers are with you as you make this decision. No matter what you do, I am sure you will make the right decision for your family.
 

imported_Momto2

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We actually chose not to have any bio kids, period. Adoption was the right choice for us. Every family is different, but you might want to consider it. Keep in mind too, that if you have second kid (bio OR adopted), they may not have CF but they could have something equally devastating or worse. There are no guarantees on any child at any time. Unless you are confident of handling a difficult second scenario in addition to your first child, I personally wouldnt go there.
 

imported_Momto2

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We actually chose not to have any bio kids, period. Adoption was the right choice for us. Every family is different, but you might want to consider it. Keep in mind too, that if you have second kid (bio OR adopted), they may not have CF but they could have something equally devastating or worse. There are no guarantees on any child at any time. Unless you are confident of handling a difficult second scenario in addition to your first child, I personally wouldnt go there.
 

hmw

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One of the most important issues that NEEDS to be considered is that good health seen in a baby or young child is completely irrelevant to this decision. It means NOTHING. Really- I don't care how uncomfortable that statement makes anyone as they hold their toddler and dream about another ...and I am not sitting here to tell you that your decision will be wrong- it's an extremely personal choice. But my point is, you MUST go into it with eyes wide open and fully informed.

Can you afford another baby? Can you afford another baby with serious health needs - the kind of needs you see on the most intimidating threads here, the kind you are almost afraid to read? No, those things may never happen to you, but you increase the odds if you end up having two children with this disease. Have you considered the financial aspects at least as seriously as you would purchasing a house? This is a much greater commitment than that.

Yes, we all hope and pray that vertex drugs and the others we hope will follow will change the face of cf as we know it. But until it's a done deal, until we see them having sustained, long term benefits, we cannot put all our eggs in that basket, so to speak. We can be optimistic (2016 is where my hopes lie!) but we just do not know yet.

Our personal experience, since others have shared theirs~
My daughter was a healthy chubby baby and toddler, nothing about her would have EVER screamed 'CF' and she wasn't getting a bit of care (not yet dx'ed.) Her growth slowed and essentially stopped as the years passed. She started getting sicker more often- by 6 it was to the point of panic on my part, she was NOT the same kid we had the first 3 years of her life. At 7.5 she was finally dx'ed. At this point, at nearly 11, she's lost 25% of her lung function the last couple years, been admitted 4 times in less than 2yrs, had IV's twice, has a gtube and takes 19 meds and dr-prescribed supplements. She is NOT unique in any of this, on the sliding scale of CF, she's not 'severe' by any means. Her good health as a little one was not unique either- it's actually rather common and not at all a predictor for the years to come.

My oldest has now been dx'ed with CRMS and CF has not been ruled out for him. He was 11 when Emily was dx'ed. Talk about a delayed onset of symptoms! His lung function is considerably worse than his sister's. Puberty seems to be what really set him off. It is very difficult and frustrating at this point to cope with. That is all I will say about that, it's just too fresh and new and difficult for the whole family.
 

hmw

New member
One of the most important issues that NEEDS to be considered is that good health seen in a baby or young child is completely irrelevant to this decision. It means NOTHING. Really- I don't care how uncomfortable that statement makes anyone as they hold their toddler and dream about another ...and I am not sitting here to tell you that your decision will be wrong- it's an extremely personal choice. But my point is, you MUST go into it with eyes wide open and fully informed.

Can you afford another baby? Can you afford another baby with serious health needs - the kind of needs you see on the most intimidating threads here, the kind you are almost afraid to read? No, those things may never happen to you, but you increase the odds if you end up having two children with this disease. Have you considered the financial aspects at least as seriously as you would purchasing a house? This is a much greater commitment than that.

Yes, we all hope and pray that vertex drugs and the others we hope will follow will change the face of cf as we know it. But until it's a done deal, until we see them having sustained, long term benefits, we cannot put all our eggs in that basket, so to speak. We can be optimistic (2016 is where my hopes lie!) but we just do not know yet.

Our personal experience, since others have shared theirs~
My daughter was a healthy chubby baby and toddler, nothing about her would have EVER screamed 'CF' and she wasn't getting a bit of care (not yet dx'ed.) Her growth slowed and essentially stopped as the years passed. She started getting sicker more often- by 6 it was to the point of panic on my part, she was NOT the same kid we had the first 3 years of her life. At 7.5 she was finally dx'ed. At this point, at nearly 11, she's lost 25% of her lung function the last couple years, been admitted 4 times in less than 2yrs, had IV's twice, has a gtube and takes 19 meds and dr-prescribed supplements. She is NOT unique in any of this, on the sliding scale of CF, she's not 'severe' by any means. Her good health as a little one was not unique either- it's actually rather common and not at all a predictor for the years to come.

My oldest has now been dx'ed with CRMS and CF has not been ruled out for him. He was 11 when Emily was dx'ed. Talk about a delayed onset of symptoms! His lung function is considerably worse than his sister's. Puberty seems to be what really set him off. It is very difficult and frustrating at this point to cope with. That is all I will say about that, it's just too fresh and new and difficult for the whole family.
 
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