I know a young girl who has CF and her mother smokes. (She doesnt smoke around her child) I feel like saying to the mother, "Its because of peolple like you (smokers) that CF people cant (shouldnt) go into public places that allow smoking." (bowling alleys, bars, some restaurants etc) I have to say that this really bothers me. I feel like its the mother who should be doing treatments and on oxygen. By smoking thats what you are asking for. The person with CF never did anything to deserve what they have to go through. Anyway, I was wondering what others views are on this subject. Thank you.
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Smoking in Public
- Thread starter anonymous
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My BF(CF) parents both smoke even when he was little they sometimes even smoked in the car on trips I think that it is disgusting and I couldn't believe that they actually smoke around him now that he is older he has goes at them and tells them off. I hate smokers I can't wait for them to ban them in bars and clubs here as it really puts me off going out.
ClashPunk82
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I am so grateful I live in MA. Smoking is banned from all public places it's so great that I can go to a bowling alley or a pool hall and not throw up after I leave because of all the smoke!! Smoking makes me so mad and I wish it was banned altogether.
NoDayButToday
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If you don't intentionally smoke around me, it doesn't bother me if a person smokes.
If they get emphysema or lung cancer, I would feel some priority over them in terms of a lung transplant. I think smoking in public places should be banned (it pretty much is around me though, so I don't think about that one much), and it irks me when I walk by a smoker who is giving off a lot of smoke (some seem smell smokier than others), but smokers in themselves, as people, I have no problem with. In this day and age, they very well know what they are getting into, and its their choice. I sometimes think, If you want bad lungs I'll trade you; but smokers aren't doing it to ruin their lungs, nicotine is a thing that has pleasurable affects, and that's what smokers are going after. It's their choice, and no one gets angry at alcoholics who rot away their livers it seems, though its the same concept.
I guess I'm saying I don't look down on smokers, so long as they don't smoke around me. Oh and those commercials where we're supposed to cry over a man dying of emphysema, they bother me.
If they get emphysema or lung cancer, I would feel some priority over them in terms of a lung transplant. I think smoking in public places should be banned (it pretty much is around me though, so I don't think about that one much), and it irks me when I walk by a smoker who is giving off a lot of smoke (some seem smell smokier than others), but smokers in themselves, as people, I have no problem with. In this day and age, they very well know what they are getting into, and its their choice. I sometimes think, If you want bad lungs I'll trade you; but smokers aren't doing it to ruin their lungs, nicotine is a thing that has pleasurable affects, and that's what smokers are going after. It's their choice, and no one gets angry at alcoholics who rot away their livers it seems, though its the same concept.
I guess I'm saying I don't look down on smokers, so long as they don't smoke around me. Oh and those commercials where we're supposed to cry over a man dying of emphysema, they bother me.
I also have a "thing" with smokers. I think about my 10 yr old stepdaughter who has CF. When shes older... will she not be able to go into places b/c of smokers?? I know now we don't go places b/c of the smoke factor. I hope she makes the choice of not wanting to be around it. But if smoking were banned in poublic places them that would allow her more "freedom". Is there any Cfers out there who have experienced being held back from a place b/c of smoking?? How does it make you feel?
Angie
Angie
coll,
well said...are you sure you are fifteen? I would just add that in WV it is a county by county decision, the county where I live smoking is banned eveywhere but bars. I will tell you that I do not feel sorry for smokers when they get sick and find it ridiculus they can sue tobacco companies for the damage their smoking caused. Who can we sue for our problems, our parents????
luke 29/cf, fifteen days and counting
well said...are you sure you are fifteen? I would just add that in WV it is a county by county decision, the county where I live smoking is banned eveywhere but bars. I will tell you that I do not feel sorry for smokers when they get sick and find it ridiculus they can sue tobacco companies for the damage their smoking caused. Who can we sue for our problems, our parents????
luke 29/cf, fifteen days and counting
serendipity730
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I think smokers generally fall into two categories - respectful smokers and unrespectful smokers. My fiancee's parents are smokers (well his dad is trying to quit.) And, if his dad hadn't told his mom that they were never going to smoke in the house when I am there, I think she still would have. I had a friend growing up whose mom smoked like a chimney - even around me! It always blew my mind. I wish they would ban it in public places. There are some bars that I just don't go to anymore, because it is too smokey. I'd like to think I take the high road like Coll, butt sometimes it is just really angering that we fight to keep the lungs we have healthy (and eventually fail,) when others are smoking theirs away.
I am 31...was diagnosed at just a few months old. My mom and dad both smoked around me and my brother (also with CF) when we were kids. I still dont understand why they did it. It makes me mad too about smoking in restaurants and bowling alleys. I cant even go bowling without being around smoke. Smoking has been banned in alot of fast food places now...but a family place like a bowling alley, they can still smoke. Doesnt make any sense to me!
Dea
Dea
NoDayButToday
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<blockquote>Quote<br><hr>well said...are you sure you are fifteen? <hr></blockquote>
Yep, I'm 15 Luke.... 16 in April. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
Yep, I'm 15 Luke.... 16 in April. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">
I wondering..... even if someone doesnt smoke around you , does still effect your lungs. For example... being in a car that gets smoked in. Walking thriough a garage that gets smoked in. You can still smell that disgusting smoky smell even though there's no smoke in the air. Would this effect a CFers lungs??
Mockingbird
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Hey, Angie. I know getting into a smoke smelling car or being around someone who smells like it affects my lungs. I think it might just be a psychological thing, though; I'm not sure if it actaully physically hurts my lungs.
I can't believe a parent of a cfer would smoke... seems like a confict of interest, to me. =-) "I love my baby soooo much! okay, i need to go smoke now." That would drive me insane, being around someone like that. Even though she doesn't smoke around her daughter, I still think it's wrong.
Jarod
22 w/cf
I can't believe a parent of a cfer would smoke... seems like a confict of interest, to me. =-) "I love my baby soooo much! okay, i need to go smoke now." That would drive me insane, being around someone like that. Even though she doesn't smoke around her daughter, I still think it's wrong.
Jarod
22 w/cf
thefrogprincess
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My dad has been a smoker for about 30 years. He always smoked outside and never ever in the car, even if we weren't in it because just the smell would bother us.
The state of Washington is trying to ban smoking in public places and I hope it passes. I get very resentful sometimes because I don't get to hang out with my BF and friends when they go to a bar, or to see my friend's band. There aren't even any non-smoking bars around here to go to.
Just another note: and not that I'm defending smokers. Most people don't understand how hard it is to quit. As an example my grandfather smoked for most of his life, got lung cancer of course and smoked right up until the very end, same with my BFs grandpa. My dad has tried to quit more times than I remember, even though my grandpa (mom's dad) had cancer, and his dad and oldest brother have had heart attacks he keeps on going. My BFs aunt has emphazema (sp??). On the fourth of July she sat there with a ciggarette in one hand and an inhaler in the other. So don't get too upset with people as long as they aren't smoking around CFers. They are probably trying to quit, and they need support, not anger.
The state of Washington is trying to ban smoking in public places and I hope it passes. I get very resentful sometimes because I don't get to hang out with my BF and friends when they go to a bar, or to see my friend's band. There aren't even any non-smoking bars around here to go to.
Just another note: and not that I'm defending smokers. Most people don't understand how hard it is to quit. As an example my grandfather smoked for most of his life, got lung cancer of course and smoked right up until the very end, same with my BFs grandpa. My dad has tried to quit more times than I remember, even though my grandpa (mom's dad) had cancer, and his dad and oldest brother have had heart attacks he keeps on going. My BFs aunt has emphazema (sp??). On the fourth of July she sat there with a ciggarette in one hand and an inhaler in the other. So don't get too upset with people as long as they aren't smoking around CFers. They are probably trying to quit, and they need support, not anger.
Smoking is the #1 addictive drug and it is very hard to quit, just because one smokes does not imply that they do not love or care about their children, i agree that it is a filthy and smelly habit, but i think that there is nobody that is perfect and nobody should judge others because we all have some sort of bad habit. Some people smoke, some drink alcohol and some do drugs. i think that i read on this site that someone was asking about cocaine and CF, and by the way i lost a parent to alcoholism, and it sounds like alot of CF people like to drink.
Emily65Roses
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Smoking doesn't imply people don't love their children, no. But smoking inside the same house, or inside a closed car does.
Just because something is hard to do doesn't mean it's impossible.
Btw, it's ridiculous to say that most cfers like to drink a lot. The reason a lot ofpeople on this site do or have is b/c there are a lot of teenagers/young 20's, which is when a lot of people start drinking. And just so you know, I don't drink at all.
Also, I am VERY sorry that you lost a parent to alcohol, but their drinking did not make your health worse. A parent that smokes does make their child's health worse, especially if that child has CF.
Enough from me. I think everyone probably knows my stance on smoking by now.....
Btw, it's ridiculous to say that most cfers like to drink a lot. The reason a lot ofpeople on this site do or have is b/c there are a lot of teenagers/young 20's, which is when a lot of people start drinking. And just so you know, I don't drink at all.
Also, I am VERY sorry that you lost a parent to alcohol, but their drinking did not make your health worse. A parent that smokes does make their child's health worse, especially if that child has CF.
Enough from me. I think everyone probably knows my stance on smoking by now.....
Emily65Roses
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You're right, Jenny, I'm sure everyone knows. But I just so happen to agree with you 100%. So it's okay by me. <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif" border="0">
Mockingbird
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I've been thinking about this lately, and I still don't have any symapthy for smokers who can't quit. Especially parents of a cf child. There are lots of stop-smoking aids out there, if one doesn't work, try another and another, and another until one does. And if a CF parent absolutely can't quit, then they can give the child up to someone who doesn't. I'm thinking an aunt and uncle, or grandparents, I'm not saying the parent has to give their child up for adoption and hardly see them again... Though if they can't stop smoking, maybe it's better they don't see their kid that much.
Think about it, If a cf kid has parents who smoke, the kid's probably gonna think smokings not THAT bad, and start doing it himself. No matter what the parents say, it's always their actions that rub off on us, whether we want it or not. Bottom line, there is absolutely no reason a child with CF has to live in a smoking household. Someone said just because a parent can't quit, that doesn't mean they love their kid.... well, I'm sorry, but it kind of does. I've been hurt a lot by people close to me who smoke, whether it be a friend or uncle or whatever. Even though they may go outside and everything else, it's still saying they couldn't go one night without smoking. Besides, the smoke gets stuck to things and the smell never really goes away.
Anyway, I'm not saying I hate people in my life because they smoke, 'cause I don't. I just perfer to keep those people at a bit of a distance. If people can't quit, that's fine, but I'm definetly not going to be visiting them, and I don't want them visiting me. And I think it should be the same for parents who smoke.... Until they can quit, their relationship with their child has to be long distance. I know that's never gonna happen, because people are way to selfish to be giving up their kids, even if the child's health is at stake, but I think that's the way it should be, anyway.
Jarod
22 w/cf
Think about it, If a cf kid has parents who smoke, the kid's probably gonna think smokings not THAT bad, and start doing it himself. No matter what the parents say, it's always their actions that rub off on us, whether we want it or not. Bottom line, there is absolutely no reason a child with CF has to live in a smoking household. Someone said just because a parent can't quit, that doesn't mean they love their kid.... well, I'm sorry, but it kind of does. I've been hurt a lot by people close to me who smoke, whether it be a friend or uncle or whatever. Even though they may go outside and everything else, it's still saying they couldn't go one night without smoking. Besides, the smoke gets stuck to things and the smell never really goes away.
Anyway, I'm not saying I hate people in my life because they smoke, 'cause I don't. I just perfer to keep those people at a bit of a distance. If people can't quit, that's fine, but I'm definetly not going to be visiting them, and I don't want them visiting me. And I think it should be the same for parents who smoke.... Until they can quit, their relationship with their child has to be long distance. I know that's never gonna happen, because people are way to selfish to be giving up their kids, even if the child's health is at stake, but I think that's the way it should be, anyway.
Jarod
22 w/cf
Let me tell u one thing, i am the sole caregiver of my child, i know when my child is sick. i know when my child needs antibiotics and i am the one who takes my child back and forth to her visits and also stay at every hospitalization! I am the one who has instilled in my child the importance of doing her vest 3 - 4 times daily!!!! and my daughter knows that i will always be there , no matter what!!! i do not smoke in our house, i do not smoke in our car and i do not let anyone smoke around my child, my child does know that smoking is a very bad habit for me, her and everyone else that smokes!!! She also knows that drugs and alcohol are bad habits too. My child is very HEALTHY for a CF child.