Stem Cell Research Veto

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BlueTurtle

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THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.
 
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BlueTurtle

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THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.
 
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BlueTurtle

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THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.
 
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BlueTurtle

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THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BlueTurtle</b></i>

THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.</end quote></div>

OK THIS IS WHAT I DONT GET......what is the difference between stem cells. I realize adult stem cells are obvious because, well, they come from adults. The embryonic (not debating effectiveness at the moment btw) HAS to be from an aborted fetus? That is a different type or source then placental and cord storm cells? My understanding or maybe its my opinon....I am not really sure is that if a woman miscarries or terminates that the stem cells are harvested the same as a live birth. IF this is not true then help me understand WHY (if you can) its felt that aborting & then harvesting would be beneficial if that is what you think would compel people. I am not sure I am making sense because I am quite confused.
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BlueTurtle</b></i>

THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.</end quote></div>

OK THIS IS WHAT I DONT GET......what is the difference between stem cells. I realize adult stem cells are obvious because, well, they come from adults. The embryonic (not debating effectiveness at the moment btw) HAS to be from an aborted fetus? That is a different type or source then placental and cord storm cells? My understanding or maybe its my opinon....I am not really sure is that if a woman miscarries or terminates that the stem cells are harvested the same as a live birth. IF this is not true then help me understand WHY (if you can) its felt that aborting & then harvesting would be beneficial if that is what you think would compel people. I am not sure I am making sense because I am quite confused.
 
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JazzysMom

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BlueTurtle</b></i>

THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.</end quote></div>

OK THIS IS WHAT I DONT GET......what is the difference between stem cells. I realize adult stem cells are obvious because, well, they come from adults. The embryonic (not debating effectiveness at the moment btw) HAS to be from an aborted fetus? That is a different type or source then placental and cord storm cells? My understanding or maybe its my opinon....I am not really sure is that if a woman miscarries or terminates that the stem cells are harvested the same as a live birth. IF this is not true then help me understand WHY (if you can) its felt that aborting & then harvesting would be beneficial if that is what you think would compel people. I am not sure I am making sense because I am quite confused.
 
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JazzysMom

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BlueTurtle</b></i>

THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.</end quote></div>

OK THIS IS WHAT I DONT GET......what is the difference between stem cells. I realize adult stem cells are obvious because, well, they come from adults. The embryonic (not debating effectiveness at the moment btw) HAS to be from an aborted fetus? That is a different type or source then placental and cord storm cells? My understanding or maybe its my opinon....I am not really sure is that if a woman miscarries or terminates that the stem cells are harvested the same as a live birth. IF this is not true then help me understand WHY (if you can) its felt that aborting & then harvesting would be beneficial if that is what you think would compel people. I am not sure I am making sense because I am quite confused.
 
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JazzysMom

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BlueTurtle</b></i>

THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.</end quote>

OK THIS IS WHAT I DONT GET......what is the difference between stem cells. I realize adult stem cells are obvious because, well, they come from adults. The embryonic (not debating effectiveness at the moment btw) HAS to be from an aborted fetus? That is a different type or source then placental and cord storm cells? My understanding or maybe its my opinon....I am not really sure is that if a woman miscarries or terminates that the stem cells are harvested the same as a live birth. IF this is not true then help me understand WHY (if you can) its felt that aborting & then harvesting would be beneficial if that is what you think would compel people. I am not sure I am making sense because I am quite confused.
 
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JazzysMom

New member
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>BlueTurtle</b></i>

THere is NO evidence that embryonic stem cells cure or heal any disease. There is evidence that adult stem cells work fine. The best results in stem cell research have been placental and cord stem cells, as well as stems cells harvested from adult donors for use in their own bodies. There is no reason to kill babies to get stem cells.

Also, people may be compelled to destroy life in order to promote research. It's unacceptable.</end quote>

OK THIS IS WHAT I DONT GET......what is the difference between stem cells. I realize adult stem cells are obvious because, well, they come from adults. The embryonic (not debating effectiveness at the moment btw) HAS to be from an aborted fetus? That is a different type or source then placental and cord storm cells? My understanding or maybe its my opinon....I am not really sure is that if a woman miscarries or terminates that the stem cells are harvested the same as a live birth. IF this is not true then help me understand WHY (if you can) its felt that aborting & then harvesting would be beneficial if that is what you think would compel people. I am not sure I am making sense because I am quite confused.
 
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IG

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Stem Cells are the building blocks of a person, they come from blastocysts (a blastocyst is what happens when the sperm and egg come together and start multiplying). This type of stem cell can become anything in the body because it hasn't been pre-programmed yet to become something else. The problem with adult stem cells is that they've already been pre-programmed. (eg. take stem cells from bone marrow) They've already been assigned a task so it's difficult to get it to do anything else, which is why embryonic stem cells are preferred in stem cell research.

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A termination would have to occur very early for 'abortion for stem cells' to occur because blastocysts only occur about the 4th of 5th day of a pregnancy. After that it's already 'programmed' to do something in the body, at least as far as I understand. It's been a while since I took a bio course so I could be wrong about this section.

The embryonic HAS to be from an aborted fetus? No. People who are going through IVF often produce more eggs that have been fertilized (blastocysts) than what they're going to use themselves. I believe they have the option of donating them to other couples or discarding them. Instead of discarding them they want to use them for research with the parents consent.

Not sure about cord cells though. Why is this stuff potentially helpful? Because if we can manipulate the 'building blocks of life' then things like MS, Parkinsons, etc. can be helped. Lungs can theoretically be grown, etc. Of course all of this stuff is theoretical right now.

Federally funded stem cell research has been banned but private research hasn't.

I think this has gotten some of your questions..
 
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IG

Guest
Stem Cells are the building blocks of a person, they come from blastocysts (a blastocyst is what happens when the sperm and egg come together and start multiplying). This type of stem cell can become anything in the body because it hasn't been pre-programmed yet to become something else. The problem with adult stem cells is that they've already been pre-programmed. (eg. take stem cells from bone marrow) They've already been assigned a task so it's difficult to get it to do anything else, which is why embryonic stem cells are preferred in stem cell research.

*edit*
A termination would have to occur very early for 'abortion for stem cells' to occur because blastocysts only occur about the 4th of 5th day of a pregnancy. After that it's already 'programmed' to do something in the body, at least as far as I understand. It's been a while since I took a bio course so I could be wrong about this section.

The embryonic HAS to be from an aborted fetus? No. People who are going through IVF often produce more eggs that have been fertilized (blastocysts) than what they're going to use themselves. I believe they have the option of donating them to other couples or discarding them. Instead of discarding them they want to use them for research with the parents consent.

Not sure about cord cells though. Why is this stuff potentially helpful? Because if we can manipulate the 'building blocks of life' then things like MS, Parkinsons, etc. can be helped. Lungs can theoretically be grown, etc. Of course all of this stuff is theoretical right now.

Federally funded stem cell research has been banned but private research hasn't.

I think this has gotten some of your questions..
 
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IG

Guest
Stem Cells are the building blocks of a person, they come from blastocysts (a blastocyst is what happens when the sperm and egg come together and start multiplying). This type of stem cell can become anything in the body because it hasn't been pre-programmed yet to become something else. The problem with adult stem cells is that they've already been pre-programmed. (eg. take stem cells from bone marrow) They've already been assigned a task so it's difficult to get it to do anything else, which is why embryonic stem cells are preferred in stem cell research.

*edit*
A termination would have to occur very early for 'abortion for stem cells' to occur because blastocysts only occur about the 4th of 5th day of a pregnancy. After that it's already 'programmed' to do something in the body, at least as far as I understand. It's been a while since I took a bio course so I could be wrong about this section.

The embryonic HAS to be from an aborted fetus? No. People who are going through IVF often produce more eggs that have been fertilized (blastocysts) than what they're going to use themselves. I believe they have the option of donating them to other couples or discarding them. Instead of discarding them they want to use them for research with the parents consent.

Not sure about cord cells though. Why is this stuff potentially helpful? Because if we can manipulate the 'building blocks of life' then things like MS, Parkinsons, etc. can be helped. Lungs can theoretically be grown, etc. Of course all of this stuff is theoretical right now.

Federally funded stem cell research has been banned but private research hasn't.

I think this has gotten some of your questions..
 
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IG

Guest
Stem Cells are the building blocks of a person, they come from blastocysts (a blastocyst is what happens when the sperm and egg come together and start multiplying). This type of stem cell can become anything in the body because it hasn't been pre-programmed yet to become something else. The problem with adult stem cells is that they've already been pre-programmed. (eg. take stem cells from bone marrow) They've already been assigned a task so it's difficult to get it to do anything else, which is why embryonic stem cells are preferred in stem cell research.

*edit*
A termination would have to occur very early for 'abortion for stem cells' to occur because blastocysts only occur about the 4th of 5th day of a pregnancy. After that it's already 'programmed' to do something in the body, at least as far as I understand. It's been a while since I took a bio course so I could be wrong about this section.

The embryonic HAS to be from an aborted fetus? No. People who are going through IVF often produce more eggs that have been fertilized (blastocysts) than what they're going to use themselves. I believe they have the option of donating them to other couples or discarding them. Instead of discarding them they want to use them for research with the parents consent.

Not sure about cord cells though. Why is this stuff potentially helpful? Because if we can manipulate the 'building blocks of life' then things like MS, Parkinsons, etc. can be helped. Lungs can theoretically be grown, etc. Of course all of this stuff is theoretical right now.

Federally funded stem cell research has been banned but private research hasn't.

I think this has gotten some of your questions..
 
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IG

Guest
Stem Cells are the building blocks of a person, they come from blastocysts (a blastocyst is what happens when the sperm and egg come together and start multiplying). This type of stem cell can become anything in the body because it hasn't been pre-programmed yet to become something else. The problem with adult stem cells is that they've already been pre-programmed. (eg. take stem cells from bone marrow) They've already been assigned a task so it's difficult to get it to do anything else, which is why embryonic stem cells are preferred in stem cell research.

*edit*
A termination would have to occur very early for 'abortion for stem cells' to occur because blastocysts only occur about the 4th of 5th day of a pregnancy. After that it's already 'programmed' to do something in the body, at least as far as I understand. It's been a while since I took a bio course so I could be wrong about this section.

The embryonic HAS to be from an aborted fetus? No. People who are going through IVF often produce more eggs that have been fertilized (blastocysts) than what they're going to use themselves. I believe they have the option of donating them to other couples or discarding them. Instead of discarding them they want to use them for research with the parents consent.

Not sure about cord cells though. Why is this stuff potentially helpful? Because if we can manipulate the 'building blocks of life' then things like MS, Parkinsons, etc. can be helped. Lungs can theoretically be grown, etc. Of course all of this stuff is theoretical right now.

Federally funded stem cell research has been banned but private research hasn't.

I think this has gotten some of your questions..
 
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IG

Guest
Stem Cells are the building blocks of a person, they come from blastocysts (a blastocyst is what happens when the sperm and egg come together and start multiplying). This type of stem cell can become anything in the body because it hasn't been pre-programmed yet to become something else. The problem with adult stem cells is that they've already been pre-programmed. (eg. take stem cells from bone marrow) They've already been assigned a task so it's difficult to get it to do anything else, which is why embryonic stem cells are preferred in stem cell research.

*edit*
A termination would have to occur very early for 'abortion for stem cells' to occur because blastocysts only occur about the 4th of 5th day of a pregnancy. After that it's already 'programmed' to do something in the body, at least as far as I understand. It's been a while since I took a bio course so I could be wrong about this section.

The embryonic HAS to be from an aborted fetus? No. People who are going through IVF often produce more eggs that have been fertilized (blastocysts) than what they're going to use themselves. I believe they have the option of donating them to other couples or discarding them. Instead of discarding them they want to use them for research with the parents consent.

Not sure about cord cells though. Why is this stuff potentially helpful? Because if we can manipulate the 'building blocks of life' then things like MS, Parkinsons, etc. can be helped. Lungs can theoretically be grown, etc. Of course all of this stuff is theoretical right now.

Federally funded stem cell research has been banned but private research hasn't.

I think this has gotten some of your questions..
 
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