Tobi and the eFlow

[Landy]

My point is that their cost has most likely been recouped and they could probably stand to decrease the cost of TOBI some (if they haven't already) to take some financial burden off of the insurance companies, the government & the patient. Not to mention, other countries may approve it for their patients if it was at a lower price point.
I'd say they still stand to make oodles of money for R&D for other drugs from TOBI profits and my guess is that TOBI isn't the only drug they are making a profit from at this time (to use for R&D). Not to mention that the CFF often chips in funds for R&D for CF drugs too.

A couple of other clarifications:
<i>1. Hardly anyone pays the cash price for TOBI. It's paid for mostly be 3rd parties which negociate their rates, usually 1/2 of the cash price. </i>
So, most people's insurance only pays $1650 for TOBI?

<i>3. You're assuming that your $300 million figure is pure profit. </i>
No, I said gross, not net

<i>Pay the people to drive the trucks, or load intro trains. Then pay for fuel. </i>
I guess I didn't realize that Chiron had their own trucking/freight company. I just assumed they used Fed Ex, UPS or something.

 

[Landy]

My point is that their cost has most likely been recouped and they could probably stand to decrease the cost of TOBI some (if they haven't already) to take some financial burden off of the insurance companies, the government & the patient. Not to mention, other countries may approve it for their patients if it was at a lower price point.
I'd say they still stand to make oodles of money for R&D for other drugs from TOBI profits and my guess is that TOBI isn't the only drug they are making a profit from at this time (to use for R&D). Not to mention that the CFF often chips in funds for R&D for CF drugs too.

A couple of other clarifications:
<i>1. Hardly anyone pays the cash price for TOBI. It's paid for mostly be 3rd parties which negociate their rates, usually 1/2 of the cash price. </i>
So, most people's insurance only pays $1650 for TOBI?

<i>3. You're assuming that your $300 million figure is pure profit. </i>
No, I said gross, not net

<i>Pay the people to drive the trucks, or load intro trains. Then pay for fuel. </i>
I guess I didn't realize that Chiron had their own trucking/freight company. I just assumed they used Fed Ex, UPS or something.

 

[Landy]

My point is that their cost has most likely been recouped and they could probably stand to decrease the cost of TOBI some (if they haven't already) to take some financial burden off of the insurance companies, the government & the patient. Not to mention, other countries may approve it for their patients if it was at a lower price point.
I'd say they still stand to make oodles of money for R&D for other drugs from TOBI profits and my guess is that TOBI isn't the only drug they are making a profit from at this time (to use for R&D). Not to mention that the CFF often chips in funds for R&D for CF drugs too.

A couple of other clarifications:
<i>1. Hardly anyone pays the cash price for TOBI. It's paid for mostly be 3rd parties which negociate their rates, usually 1/2 of the cash price. </i>
So, most people's insurance only pays $1650 for TOBI?

<i>3. You're assuming that your $300 million figure is pure profit. </i>
No, I said gross, not net

<i>Pay the people to drive the trucks, or load intro trains. Then pay for fuel. </i>
I guess I didn't realize that Chiron had their own trucking/freight company. I just assumed they used Fed Ex, UPS or something.

 

[NoExcuses]

So lower drug prices for CF patients but not cancer patients or neuro patients. Interesting business model.

I wonder why no one ever thought of that....?

 

[NoExcuses]

So lower drug prices for CF patients but not cancer patients or neuro patients. Interesting business model.

I wonder why no one ever thought of that....?

 

[NoExcuses]

So lower drug prices for CF patients but not cancer patients or neuro patients. Interesting business model.

I wonder why no one ever thought of that....?

 

[Landy]

Let's not be condescending. Obviously they could do this with all drugs after a point, I just used a CF drug as an example because it's near & dear to my heart.

 

[Landy]

Let's not be condescending. Obviously they could do this with all drugs after a point, I just used a CF drug as an example because it's near & dear to my heart.

 

[Landy]

Let's not be condescending. Obviously they could do this with all drugs after a point, I just used a CF drug as an example because it's near & dear to my heart.

 

[getahobby]

It is easy to make TOBI compared to a drug like Pulmozyme. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of what you guys are both saying <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[getahobby]

It is easy to make TOBI compared to a drug like Pulmozyme. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of what you guys are both saying <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[getahobby]

It is easy to make TOBI compared to a drug like Pulmozyme. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle of what you guys are both saying <img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0">

 

[NoExcuses]

collistin is $3300 a month and is generic (price is for the generic).

and there are multiple companies who make the generic version.

it's expensive to make medications as well....

if u want free drugs, move to a socialized country. there are those of us who value what capitalism can bring to medicine (innovation, access to branded meds)

 

[NoExcuses]

collistin is $3300 a month and is generic (price is for the generic).

and there are multiple companies who make the generic version.

it's expensive to make medications as well....

if u want free drugs, move to a socialized country. there are those of us who value what capitalism can bring to medicine (innovation, access to branded meds)

 

[NoExcuses]

collistin is $3300 a month and is generic (price is for the generic).

and there are multiple companies who make the generic version.

it's expensive to make medications as well....

if u want free drugs, move to a socialized country. there are those of us who value what capitalism can bring to medicine (innovation, access to branded meds)

 

[getahobby]

I know I should just let this topic die.....BUT
Nobody is asking for free medication. Let people complain about how much it costs for medication and stop being an apologist for the drug industry. Chiron^H^H^H^Novartis^H^H^^Hwhomever they will be next obviously makes a fair amount of money on TOBI or else they wouldn't have so aggresively and erroneously tried to sue everybody into bankruptcy.

 

[getahobby]

I know I should just let this topic die.....BUT
Nobody is asking for free medication. Let people complain about how much it costs for medication and stop being an apologist for the drug industry. Chiron^H^H^H^Novartis^H^H^^Hwhomever they will be next obviously makes a fair amount of money on TOBI or else they wouldn't have so aggresively and erroneously tried to sue everybody into bankruptcy.

 

[getahobby]

I know I should just let this topic die.....BUT
Nobody is asking for free medication. Let people complain about how much it costs for medication and stop being an apologist for the drug industry. Chiron^H^H^H^Novartis^H^H^^Hwhomever they will be next obviously makes a fair amount of money on TOBI or else they wouldn't have so aggresively and erroneously tried to sue everybody into bankruptcy.

 

[Bumblebee]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>sakasuka</b></i>





2. No other country besides the US uses TOBI. Socialized medicine won't pay for it




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You're wrong. I live in the UK and have been prescribed TOBI for about 3 years. In the last year i have been on it continusouly. The government are happy to pay for it. I also happily use it in my eflow...that and pulmozyme and ventolin (salbutamol).

 

[Bumblebee]

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>sakasuka</b></i>





2. No other country besides the US uses TOBI. Socialized medicine won't pay for it




<br><br><br>



You're wrong. I live in the UK and have been prescribed TOBI for about 3 years. In the last year i have been on it continusouly. The government are happy to pay for it. I also happily use it in my eflow...that and pulmozyme and ventolin (salbutamol).