Treating Inflammation w/o anti-inflammatories

Foody · Jun 3, 2008

I'm jumping in late on this one, but I would just like to throw out the idea that a holistic approach to care concerns itself with the whole human organism, not just the physical symptoms. Many, many things contribute to inflammation from genetics (obviously) to your level of stress, food intake, food allergies, acidity of the body...the list goes on. A multi-level approach to reduce the factors which increase inflammation will of course benefit the whole person, including specific areas of the body. If massage helps to alleviate stress and help get the body to release toxins and move fluids more effectively throughout the body, then, IMHO, it is safe to say inflammation will be reduced.

Thinking of these techniques as "alternative" seems to place them in opposition somehow to "science." I think this is what is wrong with tradtional medical practices. Accupuncture, for example is 1000's of years old...there have been generations and generations who have used it's power to heal and maintain balance for health. What we could learn from and incorporate into our medical model from other more advanced and holistic-based approaches is a huge stone unturned! The NIH (<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://nccam.nih.gov/)is">http://nccam.nih.gov/)is</a> studying these and many other complimentary care practices and is a great place to get some tips on choosing therapies not typically offered or understood by medical doctors.

Our "medicine" is failing miserably in the department of prevention and creating harmony and balance within the body. Often what we have to take to eliminate one symptom, aggravates or creates another. Suppress one, a new pathology pops up. It reminds me of the game called "wack-a-mole." One discomfort might be less annoying or less impactful, but is the allopathic approach really creating health?

Are some drugs helpful and absolutely necessary, particularly in CF? Of course...however, if more focus was placed on prevention and creating balance within the body through natural and supportive techniques, would some of the drugs become obsolete? Just questions...not saying there are real answers.

As a parent, I struggle to know how best to support his body so we may avoid as many interventions as possible. I see this as a multi-level thing...not in opposition to what our doctors recommend. I think many CF adults get this and once they can make their own decisions seem to take a more holistic approach to their own care. I learn so much from you all...thank you.

Foody · Jun 3, 2008

I'm jumping in late on this one, but I would just like to throw out the idea that a holistic approach to care concerns itself with the whole human organism, not just the physical symptoms. Many, many things contribute to inflammation from genetics (obviously) to your level of stress, food intake, food allergies, acidity of the body...the list goes on. A multi-level approach to reduce the factors which increase inflammation will of course benefit the whole person, including specific areas of the body. If massage helps to alleviate stress and help get the body to release toxins and move fluids more effectively throughout the body, then, IMHO, it is safe to say inflammation will be reduced.

Thinking of these techniques as "alternative" seems to place them in opposition somehow to "science." I think this is what is wrong with tradtional medical practices. Accupuncture, for example is 1000's of years old...there have been generations and generations who have used it's power to heal and maintain balance for health. What we could learn from and incorporate into our medical model from other more advanced and holistic-based approaches is a huge stone unturned! The NIH (<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://nccam.nih.gov/)is">http://nccam.nih.gov/)is</a> studying these and many other complimentary care practices and is a great place to get some tips on choosing therapies not typically offered or understood by medical doctors.

Our "medicine" is failing miserably in the department of prevention and creating harmony and balance within the body. Often what we have to take to eliminate one symptom, aggravates or creates another. Suppress one, a new pathology pops up. It reminds me of the game called "wack-a-mole." One discomfort might be less annoying or less impactful, but is the allopathic approach really creating health?

Are some drugs helpful and absolutely necessary, particularly in CF? Of course...however, if more focus was placed on prevention and creating balance within the body through natural and supportive techniques, would some of the drugs become obsolete? Just questions...not saying there are real answers.

As a parent, I struggle to know how best to support his body so we may avoid as many interventions as possible. I see this as a multi-level thing...not in opposition to what our doctors recommend. I think many CF adults get this and once they can make their own decisions seem to take a more holistic approach to their own care. I learn so much from you all...thank you.

Foody · Jun 3, 2008

I'm jumping in late on this one, but I would just like to throw out the idea that a holistic approach to care concerns itself with the whole human organism, not just the physical symptoms. Many, many things contribute to inflammation from genetics (obviously) to your level of stress, food intake, food allergies, acidity of the body...the list goes on. A multi-level approach to reduce the factors which increase inflammation will of course benefit the whole person, including specific areas of the body. If massage helps to alleviate stress and help get the body to release toxins and move fluids more effectively throughout the body, then, IMHO, it is safe to say inflammation will be reduced.

Thinking of these techniques as "alternative" seems to place them in opposition somehow to "science." I think this is what is wrong with tradtional medical practices. Accupuncture, for example is 1000's of years old...there have been generations and generations who have used it's power to heal and maintain balance for health. What we could learn from and incorporate into our medical model from other more advanced and holistic-based approaches is a huge stone unturned! The NIH (<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://nccam.nih.gov/)is">http://nccam.nih.gov/)is</a> studying these and many other complimentary care practices and is a great place to get some tips on choosing therapies not typically offered or understood by medical doctors.

Our "medicine" is failing miserably in the department of prevention and creating harmony and balance within the body. Often what we have to take to eliminate one symptom, aggravates or creates another. Suppress one, a new pathology pops up. It reminds me of the game called "wack-a-mole." One discomfort might be less annoying or less impactful, but is the allopathic approach really creating health?

Are some drugs helpful and absolutely necessary, particularly in CF? Of course...however, if more focus was placed on prevention and creating balance within the body through natural and supportive techniques, would some of the drugs become obsolete? Just questions...not saying there are real answers.

As a parent, I struggle to know how best to support his body so we may avoid as many interventions as possible. I see this as a multi-level thing...not in opposition to what our doctors recommend. I think many CF adults get this and once they can make their own decisions seem to take a more holistic approach to their own care. I learn so much from you all...thank you.

Foody · Jun 3, 2008

I'm jumping in late on this one, but I would just like to throw out the idea that a holistic approach to care concerns itself with the whole human organism, not just the physical symptoms. Many, many things contribute to inflammation from genetics (obviously) to your level of stress, food intake, food allergies, acidity of the body...the list goes on. A multi-level approach to reduce the factors which increase inflammation will of course benefit the whole person, including specific areas of the body. If massage helps to alleviate stress and help get the body to release toxins and move fluids more effectively throughout the body, then, IMHO, it is safe to say inflammation will be reduced.

Thinking of these techniques as "alternative" seems to place them in opposition somehow to "science." I think this is what is wrong with tradtional medical practices. Accupuncture, for example is 1000's of years old...there have been generations and generations who have used it's power to heal and maintain balance for health. What we could learn from and incorporate into our medical model from other more advanced and holistic-based approaches is a huge stone unturned! The NIH (<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://nccam.nih.gov/)is">http://nccam.nih.gov/)is</a> studying these and many other complimentary care practices and is a great place to get some tips on choosing therapies not typically offered or understood by medical doctors.

Our "medicine" is failing miserably in the department of prevention and creating harmony and balance within the body. Often what we have to take to eliminate one symptom, aggravates or creates another. Suppress one, a new pathology pops up. It reminds me of the game called "wack-a-mole." One discomfort might be less annoying or less impactful, but is the allopathic approach really creating health?

Are some drugs helpful and absolutely necessary, particularly in CF? Of course...however, if more focus was placed on prevention and creating balance within the body through natural and supportive techniques, would some of the drugs become obsolete? Just questions...not saying there are real answers.

As a parent, I struggle to know how best to support his body so we may avoid as many interventions as possible. I see this as a multi-level thing...not in opposition to what our doctors recommend. I think many CF adults get this and once they can make their own decisions seem to take a more holistic approach to their own care. I learn so much from you all...thank you.

Foody · Jun 3, 2008

I'm jumping in late on this one, but I would just like to throw out the idea that a holistic approach to care concerns itself with the whole human organism, not just the physical symptoms. Many, many things contribute to inflammation from genetics (obviously) to your level of stress, food intake, food allergies, acidity of the body...the list goes on. A multi-level approach to reduce the factors which increase inflammation will of course benefit the whole person, including specific areas of the body. If massage helps to alleviate stress and help get the body to release toxins and move fluids more effectively throughout the body, then, IMHO, it is safe to say inflammation will be reduced.
 
 Thinking of these techniques as "alternative" seems to place them in opposition somehow to "science." I think this is what is wrong with tradtional medical practices. Accupuncture, for example is 1000's of years old...there have been generations and generations who have used it's power to heal and maintain balance for health. What we could learn from and incorporate into our medical model from other more advanced and holistic-based approaches is a huge stone unturned! The NIH (<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://nccam.nih.gov/)is">http://nccam.nih.gov/)is</a> studying these and many other complimentary care practices and is a great place to get some tips on choosing therapies not typically offered or understood by medical doctors.
 
 Our "medicine" is failing miserably in the department of prevention and creating harmony and balance within the body. Often what we have to take to eliminate one symptom, aggravates or creates another. Suppress one, a new pathology pops up. It reminds me of the game called "wack-a-mole." One discomfort might be less annoying or less impactful, but is the allopathic approach really creating health?
 
 Are some drugs helpful and absolutely necessary, particularly in CF? Of course...however, if more focus was placed on prevention and creating balance within the body through natural and supportive techniques, would some of the drugs become obsolete? Just questions...not saying there are real answers.
 
 As a parent, I struggle to know how best to support his body so we may avoid as many interventions as possible. I see this as a multi-level thing...not in opposition to what our doctors recommend. I think many CF adults get this and once they can make their own decisions seem to take a more holistic approach to their own care. I learn so much from you all...thank you.

CaliSally · Jun 3, 2008

Foody, thanks for your imput. I agree with everything you said.

I call alternative medicine, alternative medicine only because that's what society has labled it.
The stigma associated with alternative medicine is, IMHO, the fault of those who practice it (the accupuncturist, the chiropractor...). Here is my reasoning.

The extremist (not everyone) in this group of people believe that nature will always heal itself, and therefore don't believe in western medicine, including man-made drugs. You and I know that isn't always the case - western medicine picks up, where alternative medicine left off.

For Example: In the case of the Type I diabetic: Alternative medicine cannot provide insulin, western medicine can. (extremists will try and tell the type I diabetic that they don't need to take insulin, they can cure it "naturally")

However, the extremist in the alternative medicine group have pushed their agenda to the point of scaring their credibility and reputation.

So, when someone states that they take fish oil (for example) for this or that, and since I don't know this person, I have to wonder if they are truely taking it because of their proven experience with it, or is it merely because they are hopeful with it's affect?

I think this is what Spartan was trying to get at eariler. There is someone who wasted their money, time and efforts on something sworn to help.

Until this group, in general, can embrass both worlds (and visa versa) there will never be a "whole" approach to health. I think it takes both.

We "believe" so much in western medicine that even doctors (who should be somewhat scientific in their approach) don't embrass holisic approaches, on any level. In my mind, massage should be among the first to be considered to aid the person with CF (it's a given we have chronic inflammation and it's a given that a massaged muscle isn't so constricting on the surrounding organs/tissues etc, opening the person up), but when you talk to your doctor about it, they poo-poo the thought.

The other huge problem is that we are lazy. Society on a whole would much rather take a pill, verses making a change in their lifestyle. So more research time and money is spent on what the consumer wants, rather than needs.

I think the cf researcher studies need to do more work on holistic methods.

CaliSally · Jun 3, 2008

Foody, thanks for your imput. I agree with everything you said.

I call alternative medicine, alternative medicine only because that's what society has labled it.
The stigma associated with alternative medicine is, IMHO, the fault of those who practice it (the accupuncturist, the chiropractor...). Here is my reasoning.

The extremist (not everyone) in this group of people believe that nature will always heal itself, and therefore don't believe in western medicine, including man-made drugs. You and I know that isn't always the case - western medicine picks up, where alternative medicine left off.

For Example: In the case of the Type I diabetic: Alternative medicine cannot provide insulin, western medicine can. (extremists will try and tell the type I diabetic that they don't need to take insulin, they can cure it "naturally")

However, the extremist in the alternative medicine group have pushed their agenda to the point of scaring their credibility and reputation.

So, when someone states that they take fish oil (for example) for this or that, and since I don't know this person, I have to wonder if they are truely taking it because of their proven experience with it, or is it merely because they are hopeful with it's affect?

I think this is what Spartan was trying to get at eariler. There is someone who wasted their money, time and efforts on something sworn to help.

Until this group, in general, can embrass both worlds (and visa versa) there will never be a "whole" approach to health. I think it takes both.

We "believe" so much in western medicine that even doctors (who should be somewhat scientific in their approach) don't embrass holisic approaches, on any level. In my mind, massage should be among the first to be considered to aid the person with CF (it's a given we have chronic inflammation and it's a given that a massaged muscle isn't so constricting on the surrounding organs/tissues etc, opening the person up), but when you talk to your doctor about it, they poo-poo the thought.

The other huge problem is that we are lazy. Society on a whole would much rather take a pill, verses making a change in their lifestyle. So more research time and money is spent on what the consumer wants, rather than needs.

I think the cf researcher studies need to do more work on holistic methods.

CaliSally · Jun 3, 2008

Foody, thanks for your imput. I agree with everything you said.

I call alternative medicine, alternative medicine only because that's what society has labled it.
The stigma associated with alternative medicine is, IMHO, the fault of those who practice it (the accupuncturist, the chiropractor...). Here is my reasoning.

The extremist (not everyone) in this group of people believe that nature will always heal itself, and therefore don't believe in western medicine, including man-made drugs. You and I know that isn't always the case - western medicine picks up, where alternative medicine left off.

For Example: In the case of the Type I diabetic: Alternative medicine cannot provide insulin, western medicine can. (extremists will try and tell the type I diabetic that they don't need to take insulin, they can cure it "naturally")

However, the extremist in the alternative medicine group have pushed their agenda to the point of scaring their credibility and reputation.

So, when someone states that they take fish oil (for example) for this or that, and since I don't know this person, I have to wonder if they are truely taking it because of their proven experience with it, or is it merely because they are hopeful with it's affect?

I think this is what Spartan was trying to get at eariler. There is someone who wasted their money, time and efforts on something sworn to help.

Until this group, in general, can embrass both worlds (and visa versa) there will never be a "whole" approach to health. I think it takes both.

We "believe" so much in western medicine that even doctors (who should be somewhat scientific in their approach) don't embrass holisic approaches, on any level. In my mind, massage should be among the first to be considered to aid the person with CF (it's a given we have chronic inflammation and it's a given that a massaged muscle isn't so constricting on the surrounding organs/tissues etc, opening the person up), but when you talk to your doctor about it, they poo-poo the thought.

The other huge problem is that we are lazy. Society on a whole would much rather take a pill, verses making a change in their lifestyle. So more research time and money is spent on what the consumer wants, rather than needs.

I think the cf researcher studies need to do more work on holistic methods.

CaliSally · Jun 3, 2008

Foody, thanks for your imput. I agree with everything you said.

I call alternative medicine, alternative medicine only because that's what society has labled it.
The stigma associated with alternative medicine is, IMHO, the fault of those who practice it (the accupuncturist, the chiropractor...). Here is my reasoning.

The extremist (not everyone) in this group of people believe that nature will always heal itself, and therefore don't believe in western medicine, including man-made drugs. You and I know that isn't always the case - western medicine picks up, where alternative medicine left off.

For Example: In the case of the Type I diabetic: Alternative medicine cannot provide insulin, western medicine can. (extremists will try and tell the type I diabetic that they don't need to take insulin, they can cure it "naturally")

However, the extremist in the alternative medicine group have pushed their agenda to the point of scaring their credibility and reputation.

So, when someone states that they take fish oil (for example) for this or that, and since I don't know this person, I have to wonder if they are truely taking it because of their proven experience with it, or is it merely because they are hopeful with it's affect?

I think this is what Spartan was trying to get at eariler. There is someone who wasted their money, time and efforts on something sworn to help.

Until this group, in general, can embrass both worlds (and visa versa) there will never be a "whole" approach to health. I think it takes both.

We "believe" so much in western medicine that even doctors (who should be somewhat scientific in their approach) don't embrass holisic approaches, on any level. In my mind, massage should be among the first to be considered to aid the person with CF (it's a given we have chronic inflammation and it's a given that a massaged muscle isn't so constricting on the surrounding organs/tissues etc, opening the person up), but when you talk to your doctor about it, they poo-poo the thought.

The other huge problem is that we are lazy. Society on a whole would much rather take a pill, verses making a change in their lifestyle. So more research time and money is spent on what the consumer wants, rather than needs.

I think the cf researcher studies need to do more work on holistic methods.

CaliSally · Jun 3, 2008

Foody, thanks for your imput. I agree with everything you said.
 
 I call alternative medicine, alternative medicine only because that's what society has labled it.
 The stigma associated with alternative medicine is, IMHO, the fault of those who practice it (the accupuncturist, the chiropractor...). Here is my reasoning.
 
 The extremist (not everyone) in this group of people believe that nature will always heal itself, and therefore don't believe in western medicine, including man-made drugs. You and I know that isn't always the case - western medicine picks up, where alternative medicine left off.
 
 For Example: In the case of the Type I diabetic: Alternative medicine cannot provide insulin, western medicine can. (extremists will try and tell the type I diabetic that they don't need to take insulin, they can cure it "naturally")
 
 However, the extremist in the alternative medicine group have pushed their agenda to the point of scaring their credibility and reputation.
 
 So, when someone states that they take fish oil (for example) for this or that, and since I don't know this person, I have to wonder if they are truely taking it because of their proven experience with it, or is it merely because they are hopeful with it's affect?
 
 I think this is what Spartan was trying to get at eariler. There is someone who wasted their money, time and efforts on something sworn to help.
 
 Until this group, in general, can embrass both worlds (and visa versa) there will never be a "whole" approach to health. I think it takes both.
 
 We "believe" so much in western medicine that even doctors (who should be somewhat scientific in their approach) don't embrass holisic approaches, on any level. In my mind, massage should be among the first to be considered to aid the person with CF (it's a given we have chronic inflammation and it's a given that a massaged muscle isn't so constricting on the surrounding organs/tissues etc, opening the person up), but when you talk to your doctor about it, they poo-poo the thought.
 
 The other huge problem is that we are lazy. Society on a whole would much rather take a pill, verses making a change in their lifestyle. So more research time and money is spent on what the consumer wants, rather than needs.
 
 I think the cf researcher studies need to do more work on holistic methods.

Treating Inflammation w/o anti-inflammatories

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