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XAriesStarGazerX

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Thanks everyone for responding .<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> You all seem really awesome!
My PFTs right now are in the 80's theyve been going up and down lately .
When i was pregnant i had my good days and bad days ide have days where i felt great! And then their was days i felt like sleeping all day because i had a hard time breathing ...But being Pregnant is the greatest feeling in the world ! Especially when your baby starts kicking and moving around !! I think Tying my Tubes was the right chose for me . Every Preganncy is diffrent and just because i did ok this time doesnt mean next time i wont have complications ..
Vanessa/CF/21/mommy of Eli non CF
 
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XAriesStarGazerX

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Thanks everyone for responding .<img src="i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif" border="0"> You all seem really awesome!
My PFTs right now are in the 80's theyve been going up and down lately .
When i was pregnant i had my good days and bad days ide have days where i felt great! And then their was days i felt like sleeping all day because i had a hard time breathing ...But being Pregnant is the greatest feeling in the world ! Especially when your baby starts kicking and moving around !! I think Tying my Tubes was the right chose for me . Every Preganncy is diffrent and just because i did ok this time doesnt mean next time i wont have complications ..
Vanessa/CF/21/mommy of Eli non CF
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Hermit</b></i>

Amy, doesn't that just make sense though?



Obviously a pregnant CF woman is going to be monitored much more closely than a non-pregnant CF woman. So if the doctors think she could have an infection, they're probably more likely to admit her than just send her home on oral antibiotics and Tobi. Also, a CF woman is considered a "high-risk pregnancy"--meaning she will have to go in for more check-ups, and more general monitoring than a non-pregnant one. This just makes sense, and is certainly not necessarily DUE to the pregnancy.



My mother has been an Ob/Gyn for 30 years, and she specializes in high-risk pregnancies. Neither her, nor four out of my five CF doctors have ever said CF and pregnancy don't mix (and this is my mother, who is paranoid about my health). I have had the "tie my tubes?" conversation with them many times and generally the answer is "no!". My PFTs are 60%, I am in the normal weight range for my height and my health is considered stable.



Though it may be more difficult to take care of a child when you have CF, it's more incentive to stay healthy for a long time. You can't just "give up" anymore because you're a mother. I think the happiness and love associated with having kids can only be a positive thing (unless you're maybe a single mom and don't have any kind of financial/emotional support network, in which case I think it would be quite difficult!)



Just my thoughts,

Chris</end quote></div>

my step-mom is an OBGYN too. I have never had a tubes tied conversation with her, but my pregnancies weren;t treated as a big deal at all - but thats also becuase I'm relatively healthy right now....however, having kids has given me a lot more incentive to keep my health up, as Chris stated - but of course i think that incentive would come whether they were my natural born or adopted children.

sorry about the typos - I haven't got the Vest and typing down yet.
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Hermit</b></i>

Amy, doesn't that just make sense though?



Obviously a pregnant CF woman is going to be monitored much more closely than a non-pregnant CF woman. So if the doctors think she could have an infection, they're probably more likely to admit her than just send her home on oral antibiotics and Tobi. Also, a CF woman is considered a "high-risk pregnancy"--meaning she will have to go in for more check-ups, and more general monitoring than a non-pregnant one. This just makes sense, and is certainly not necessarily DUE to the pregnancy.



My mother has been an Ob/Gyn for 30 years, and she specializes in high-risk pregnancies. Neither her, nor four out of my five CF doctors have ever said CF and pregnancy don't mix (and this is my mother, who is paranoid about my health). I have had the "tie my tubes?" conversation with them many times and generally the answer is "no!". My PFTs are 60%, I am in the normal weight range for my height and my health is considered stable.



Though it may be more difficult to take care of a child when you have CF, it's more incentive to stay healthy for a long time. You can't just "give up" anymore because you're a mother. I think the happiness and love associated with having kids can only be a positive thing (unless you're maybe a single mom and don't have any kind of financial/emotional support network, in which case I think it would be quite difficult!)



Just my thoughts,

Chris</end quote></div>

my step-mom is an OBGYN too. I have never had a tubes tied conversation with her, but my pregnancies weren;t treated as a big deal at all - but thats also becuase I'm relatively healthy right now....however, having kids has given me a lot more incentive to keep my health up, as Chris stated - but of course i think that incentive would come whether they were my natural born or adopted children.

sorry about the typos - I haven't got the Vest and typing down yet.
 
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wanderlost

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<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote><i>Originally posted by: <b>Hermit</b></i>

Amy, doesn't that just make sense though?



Obviously a pregnant CF woman is going to be monitored much more closely than a non-pregnant CF woman. So if the doctors think she could have an infection, they're probably more likely to admit her than just send her home on oral antibiotics and Tobi. Also, a CF woman is considered a "high-risk pregnancy"--meaning she will have to go in for more check-ups, and more general monitoring than a non-pregnant one. This just makes sense, and is certainly not necessarily DUE to the pregnancy.



My mother has been an Ob/Gyn for 30 years, and she specializes in high-risk pregnancies. Neither her, nor four out of my five CF doctors have ever said CF and pregnancy don't mix (and this is my mother, who is paranoid about my health). I have had the "tie my tubes?" conversation with them many times and generally the answer is "no!". My PFTs are 60%, I am in the normal weight range for my height and my health is considered stable.



Though it may be more difficult to take care of a child when you have CF, it's more incentive to stay healthy for a long time. You can't just "give up" anymore because you're a mother. I think the happiness and love associated with having kids can only be a positive thing (unless you're maybe a single mom and don't have any kind of financial/emotional support network, in which case I think it would be quite difficult!)



Just my thoughts,

Chris</end quote></div>

my step-mom is an OBGYN too. I have never had a tubes tied conversation with her, but my pregnancies weren;t treated as a big deal at all - but thats also becuase I'm relatively healthy right now....however, having kids has given me a lot more incentive to keep my health up, as Chris stated - but of course i think that incentive would come whether they were my natural born or adopted children.

sorry about the typos - I haven't got the Vest and typing down yet.
 
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Scarlett81

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Its very ignorant to make a blanket statement that pregnancy is bad for all cfers and it will likely kill cfers. The bottom line is-some have died shortly after it, some have had children and are living happily in their 30s, 40s and 50s-there are people on this site that can attest to that. That being said-there are also people that have adopted and have gotten so run down from running after a child that they have died shortly too.
The medical evidence shows that for the majority of cases it is not the pregnancy that is the negative impact on the cfer, it is caring for and raising a child. So you may know sally down the street that died shortly after pregnancy, and thats awful, but the majority of medical fact shows that is not the common outcome now-(With a planned, and well monitored pregnancy by someone who goes into pregnancy with a good lung function.) If someone adopts and and their health care isn't monitored well and they let themselves go, they have just as much of a chance of a bad outcome. My doctor said to me 2 years ago she wouldn't let me have a baby or adopt b/c my pfts werent stable enough. Again-for the majority of cases it is not the pregnancy that harms the body-it is the motherhood lifestyle.

With all things-its not for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. If you, the original poster, felt that you needed your tubes tied then you made the right decision. I doubt that the doctor said-'You should maybe have your tubes tied and you said, Ok!!!' Obviously you thought about it felt it was best. That decision was right for you. It is not right for everyone.
And no, doctors should not reccomend that everyone gets their tubes tied and gives the "hard death cold facts" of pregnancy-why????? B/c they have to give FACTS. And FACTS are that women with cf have successful pregnancies all the time. This is not 1985, or even 1995. A doctor has to give ethicaly based advice-not a blind blanket statement. Each women must be judged/evaluated on an individual basis b/c there is NO one size fits all decision for everyone.

So if you feel that this decision was best for you, your body and family, as hard as it was-good for you for making it. I think everyone should be congratulated, not on what their uterus produces, or doesn't produce-but on the fact that they are doing their best and making well informed decisions. And people should not judge others for what their uterus produces-or doesn't produce-and just keep doing their best and give people the benefit of the doubt that they are doing their very best in life.
 
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Scarlett81

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Its very ignorant to make a blanket statement that pregnancy is bad for all cfers and it will likely kill cfers. The bottom line is-some have died shortly after it, some have had children and are living happily in their 30s, 40s and 50s-there are people on this site that can attest to that. That being said-there are also people that have adopted and have gotten so run down from running after a child that they have died shortly too.
The medical evidence shows that for the majority of cases it is not the pregnancy that is the negative impact on the cfer, it is caring for and raising a child. So you may know sally down the street that died shortly after pregnancy, and thats awful, but the majority of medical fact shows that is not the common outcome now-(With a planned, and well monitored pregnancy by someone who goes into pregnancy with a good lung function.) If someone adopts and and their health care isn't monitored well and they let themselves go, they have just as much of a chance of a bad outcome. My doctor said to me 2 years ago she wouldn't let me have a baby or adopt b/c my pfts werent stable enough. Again-for the majority of cases it is not the pregnancy that harms the body-it is the motherhood lifestyle.

With all things-its not for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. If you, the original poster, felt that you needed your tubes tied then you made the right decision. I doubt that the doctor said-'You should maybe have your tubes tied and you said, Ok!!!' Obviously you thought about it felt it was best. That decision was right for you. It is not right for everyone.
And no, doctors should not reccomend that everyone gets their tubes tied and gives the "hard death cold facts" of pregnancy-why????? B/c they have to give FACTS. And FACTS are that women with cf have successful pregnancies all the time. This is not 1985, or even 1995. A doctor has to give ethicaly based advice-not a blind blanket statement. Each women must be judged/evaluated on an individual basis b/c there is NO one size fits all decision for everyone.

So if you feel that this decision was best for you, your body and family, as hard as it was-good for you for making it. I think everyone should be congratulated, not on what their uterus produces, or doesn't produce-but on the fact that they are doing their best and making well informed decisions. And people should not judge others for what their uterus produces-or doesn't produce-and just keep doing their best and give people the benefit of the doubt that they are doing their very best in life.
 
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Scarlett81

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Its very ignorant to make a blanket statement that pregnancy is bad for all cfers and it will likely kill cfers. The bottom line is-some have died shortly after it, some have had children and are living happily in their 30s, 40s and 50s-there are people on this site that can attest to that. That being said-there are also people that have adopted and have gotten so run down from running after a child that they have died shortly too.
The medical evidence shows that for the majority of cases it is not the pregnancy that is the negative impact on the cfer, it is caring for and raising a child. So you may know sally down the street that died shortly after pregnancy, and thats awful, but the majority of medical fact shows that is not the common outcome now-(With a planned, and well monitored pregnancy by someone who goes into pregnancy with a good lung function.) If someone adopts and and their health care isn't monitored well and they let themselves go, they have just as much of a chance of a bad outcome. My doctor said to me 2 years ago she wouldn't let me have a baby or adopt b/c my pfts werent stable enough. Again-for the majority of cases it is not the pregnancy that harms the body-it is the motherhood lifestyle.

With all things-its not for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. If you, the original poster, felt that you needed your tubes tied then you made the right decision. I doubt that the doctor said-'You should maybe have your tubes tied and you said, Ok!!!' Obviously you thought about it felt it was best. That decision was right for you. It is not right for everyone.
And no, doctors should not reccomend that everyone gets their tubes tied and gives the "hard death cold facts" of pregnancy-why????? B/c they have to give FACTS. And FACTS are that women with cf have successful pregnancies all the time. This is not 1985, or even 1995. A doctor has to give ethicaly based advice-not a blind blanket statement. Each women must be judged/evaluated on an individual basis b/c there is NO one size fits all decision for everyone.

So if you feel that this decision was best for you, your body and family, as hard as it was-good for you for making it. I think everyone should be congratulated, not on what their uterus produces, or doesn't produce-but on the fact that they are doing their best and making well informed decisions. And people should not judge others for what their uterus produces-or doesn't produce-and just keep doing their best and give people the benefit of the doubt that they are doing their very best in life.
 
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2perfectboys

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I don't think anyone said that pregnancy was bad for CFers. While it's a personal decision, my stance is that if someone is healthy enough to go through pregnancy and have a great support system, they should by all means have a child. Anyone could die from pregnancy and no one has a guarantee they will live to see their child raised. And like Venessa said it is the greatest feeling having that baby kick around in you and a child gives more of a reason to get up everyday. On the other hand, as I do not have CF, but can say motherhood is at times very exhausting, but then the rewards are far greater. I'm just curious about adoption, since Amy mentioned it, while adoption is a great thing, would it be hard to get them to approve you in the background that has to be done beacause of having a termianal illness., or is this not applicable.
 
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2perfectboys

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I don't think anyone said that pregnancy was bad for CFers. While it's a personal decision, my stance is that if someone is healthy enough to go through pregnancy and have a great support system, they should by all means have a child. Anyone could die from pregnancy and no one has a guarantee they will live to see their child raised. And like Venessa said it is the greatest feeling having that baby kick around in you and a child gives more of a reason to get up everyday. On the other hand, as I do not have CF, but can say motherhood is at times very exhausting, but then the rewards are far greater. I'm just curious about adoption, since Amy mentioned it, while adoption is a great thing, would it be hard to get them to approve you in the background that has to be done beacause of having a termianal illness., or is this not applicable.
 
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2perfectboys

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I don't think anyone said that pregnancy was bad for CFers. While it's a personal decision, my stance is that if someone is healthy enough to go through pregnancy and have a great support system, they should by all means have a child. Anyone could die from pregnancy and no one has a guarantee they will live to see their child raised. And like Venessa said it is the greatest feeling having that baby kick around in you and a child gives more of a reason to get up everyday. On the other hand, as I do not have CF, but can say motherhood is at times very exhausting, but then the rewards are far greater. I'm just curious about adoption, since Amy mentioned it, while adoption is a great thing, would it be hard to get them to approve you in the background that has to be done beacause of having a termianal illness., or is this not applicable.
 
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EnergyGal

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I have known many women with CF who have children. My friend with CF had SIX children. She did not adopt. We all have our own situations that are so unique. We all do what is good for us. I am amazed with all the stories I continue to read.
 
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EnergyGal

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I have known many women with CF who have children. My friend with CF had SIX children. She did not adopt. We all have our own situations that are so unique. We all do what is good for us. I am amazed with all the stories I continue to read.
 
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EnergyGal

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I have known many women with CF who have children. My friend with CF had SIX children. She did not adopt. We all have our own situations that are so unique. We all do what is good for us. I am amazed with all the stories I continue to read.
 
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XAriesStarGazerX

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"If you, the original poster, felt that you needed your tubes tied then you made the right decision. I doubt that the doctor said-'You should maybe have your tubes tied and you said, Ok!!!' Obviously you thought about it felt it was best. That decision was right for you. It is not right for everyone. "


I Just wanted to say that i hope noone took it as though i was trying to say tying your tubes is the best thing for cfers to do .... tying your tubes isnt right for everyone ...I never said it was right for everyone , everyone is entitiled to their own opinion .
My Doctor is a very good Doctor shes just very blunt she didnt tell me Vanessa you need to get your tubes tyed!!
She said to me that based on my pfts and the way ive been doing that having more children wouldnt be the best for me but in her opinion getting my tubes tyed would be a good idea . So Yes it was up to me to make that decision to tie my tubes . But like you said Christian its not right for everyone .
 
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XAriesStarGazerX

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"If you, the original poster, felt that you needed your tubes tied then you made the right decision. I doubt that the doctor said-'You should maybe have your tubes tied and you said, Ok!!!' Obviously you thought about it felt it was best. That decision was right for you. It is not right for everyone. "


I Just wanted to say that i hope noone took it as though i was trying to say tying your tubes is the best thing for cfers to do .... tying your tubes isnt right for everyone ...I never said it was right for everyone , everyone is entitiled to their own opinion .
My Doctor is a very good Doctor shes just very blunt she didnt tell me Vanessa you need to get your tubes tyed!!
She said to me that based on my pfts and the way ive been doing that having more children wouldnt be the best for me but in her opinion getting my tubes tyed would be a good idea . So Yes it was up to me to make that decision to tie my tubes . But like you said Christian its not right for everyone .
 
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XAriesStarGazerX

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"If you, the original poster, felt that you needed your tubes tied then you made the right decision. I doubt that the doctor said-'You should maybe have your tubes tied and you said, Ok!!!' Obviously you thought about it felt it was best. That decision was right for you. It is not right for everyone. "


I Just wanted to say that i hope noone took it as though i was trying to say tying your tubes is the best thing for cfers to do .... tying your tubes isnt right for everyone ...I never said it was right for everyone , everyone is entitiled to their own opinion .
My Doctor is a very good Doctor shes just very blunt she didnt tell me Vanessa you need to get your tubes tyed!!
She said to me that based on my pfts and the way ive been doing that having more children wouldnt be the best for me but in her opinion getting my tubes tyed would be a good idea . So Yes it was up to me to make that decision to tie my tubes . But like you said Christian its not right for everyone .
 
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